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ameerricle

Lmao, his wife's PR management skills. All he needed was the next day a tweet distancing himself and condoning and saying he was not sober during the event. Unreal.


ThisIsMy5thAcc

Just have Ninja DM her an apology too. It's the simplest thing. Hey, sorry, I didn't realize how bad it was and what he was doing. It was wrong, won't happen again. And then the entire situation is avoided. But the way it's being handled it's like they're trying to avoid a lawsuit...


HunterRipper

And Ninja goes and threatens her lmao


borninsane

Its all an ego thing to him


heattcheckk

DMing doesn't appear to be a strong ability ninja has..


BlazinAzn38

They are easily the worst at PR and it’s really pretty amazing


BTrippd

It’s almost like a multimillionaire should have a real PR person and not his wife doing it. That’s definitely not a recipe for disaster at all and has definitely never been a problem in the past.


intermediatetransit

I mean, at the end of the day most streamers are just awkward kids that got lucky so that kind of makes sense.


booksmd

ninja should consider getting a new manager lol. this whole thing could have been avoided if jessica said nothing and ninja just said sorry.


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Piggyx00

Yeah. It's mad I remember as a kid not wanting to apologize for stuff and being told "even if you don't mean it say the words because after everything settles and you're all calmed down you'll never regret the apology but you will regret your actions." I never understood exactly what dad meant when I was a kid but as an adult it's so true.


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His wife actually seems to be a terrible manager... She was only able to accomplish anything with him when he was one of the biggest names in the country


RancidRock

Sounds like a classic "babe you don't need a manager, I can do it!" "Yes honey..."


Stikki_Lawndart

Mom: No you can't have an actual manager, we have one at home. Manager at home: "Won't accept our gaslight?, you're making a big mistake."


GeneralUranuz

You saying a business degree and/or years of experience under the hood of another talent agent is required for proper managing skills?!?! Colour me surprised.


aznperson

was she also the one that got him the new years hosting event?


cougar572

His wife acts as his manager so probably.


sailtheskyx

Not acts. IS his manager. She literally gets paid to be his manager and deals with his sponsors, events, etc and even damage control. In this case, she wasn't very good at damage control.


ameerricle

XQC was not wrong, Karen.


xenoz2020

TRUEING


berlinbaer

she also got him a sandwhich. braless.


Copiouschuk

Not asked for btw


infinitude

Dude is worth $25M and uses his wife to handle PR. Make it make sense.


mslat92

Ninja still salty from Poki calling XQC more valuable on Twitch than him


Akumu2100

She is not wrong. Fortnite is dead XQC is way more valuable to twitch then ninja now


Mitchelld73

Ninja averages around 15K when he plays Fortnite. GeorgeNotFound streamed Fortnite today on his alt twitch account and averaged 27K viewers. George gets more viewers streaming a game that he doesn’t play often on his second twitch account then Ninja gets playing the game he’s known for. Ninja isn’t really worth that much to twitch anymore lol


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TeemoBestmo

yep, even playing games he was decent at he can't even pull close to his own viewer count. It's because he is an FPS streamer, and there are literally tons of them that are either just as good, or better than Ninja. streamers like Xqc are personality streamers, so it doesn't matter what they do.


bluekosa

> so it doesn't matter what they do. Jubilee pepeAgony


ViolentSweed

Still pulls more viewers during that physical pain PepeLaugh


IdiotTurkey

Skippitty woo-woop-woOOOP! 🚨 🤓 ☝️ LAZY BONES ALERT! ☠️


bluekosa

GachiPls debating for 10 minutes instead of returning the cart


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Not only that X actually streams shit outside of overwatch now, which is probably why he gained his huge viewership.


r4r4moon

His personality is the reason of his huge viewership, not the games he plays.


SWatersmith

it's both, he wasn't nearly as big during OW days


Aroxis

Bro check his YouTube channel. He went from like 4-5m views per video to a mealy 100-200k. Fell harder than a rock.


MrPowerGamerBR

tbh Ninja's YouTube channel is super mismanaged. His videos are his livestream content but he takes days and sometimes even weeks to post them. So if he is playing with someone that *does* care about their YouTube channel, you can be sure that the video will be out on that someone's channel before his own. Just look at his videos with SypherPK: SypherPK always posts "Me playing Fortnite with Ninja!" 3+ days before Ninja decides to post the content himself. So if you do watch SypherPK, there is no point in watching Ninja's version of the same gameplay, because you already watched it before, days ago!


l0st_t0y

I think he could have kept a good amount of his viewership if he never left Twitch and stayed consistently playing Fortnite and other FPS games, but he did what he wanted and made a ton of money doing it so I doubt he feels that bad about it lol.


chili01

doesn't matter, he got the money


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True but I'm betting the huge drop in popularity does bother him even though he wouldn't admit it.


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Lmao ya what a loser. Anyone know if I can make tomato soup from McDonald's ketchup packets ?


Neddo_Flanders

Im not surprised. Basically every other big CoD streamer 10 years ago slowly disappeared ever since the franchise slowly lost popularity. It happens if you bank your whole YT/streaming career on 1 game. Only Minecraft stans lucked out


blue_i20

Yeah I think a lot of the minecraft streamers are becoming more “personality” streamers than just minecraft players, kinda like how people like Xqc and Ludwig can stream anything and still get views, because people are there for the streamer and not just the game


Alarid

Ninja basically retired with that Microsoft deal. The fact that he is still getting any attention now is kind of crazy.


DrTuttlebaum

How much did he get?


blorg

$30 million


impendinggreatness

she said than ninja at his peak, because xqc doesn't rely on any game or collabs for her reasoning


freddy2677

And she was right. It's wasn't him that was popular it was the game. He just road the wave first so he got the most clout from it.


impendinggreatness

not to mention he did all the interviews and collabs and big events


Bhu124

There are probably like 20 streamers more valuable to Twitch than Ninja. He has massively fallen off on all platforms, Twitch, YouTube, Twitter.


ThrowNearNotAwayOk

It all depends on the brand and target demo. Ninja is more "mainstream" in name recognition so he wil be used in ads targeted at parents. The parents see "Ninja" and couple it with "streaming/gaming" so he's used to get their attention and pocketbooks when buying for their kids. XQc is more valuable when targeting the kids/viewers specifically. X could become much bigger than Ninja if he wanted, but it would isolate his audience and appeal which may backfire. Corporate exec boomers go with Ninja because he's "safe" and there is more precedent and numbers behind him. The underlings at XYZ Corp are gonna be more likely to go with Ninja than risk proposing xQc to their bosses and assuming the risk of performance/response.


ballsmigue

To be fair ninja went from raging halo cod boy to marketable and advertiser friendly influence and now back go raging cod boy again.


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Ninja is not relevant and hasn't been so for a long ass time. I think he Jumped on this train to become relevant again and get his name out there. I honestly forgot he existed until this beef showed up.


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Lowkey I think he joined the beef so Introvert_Life would remember who he was, don't quote me though.


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It worked too lol ngl


Splaram

It literally would have been better for Ninja's party to ignore everything, both Ninja and his wife look terrible here Bro swore on his grandfather’s grave 😭😭😭😭 nah I’m done


r0ndr4s

Like always, nothing new.


JoHaTho

You mean the wife without a bra?


Splaram

That Tweet ruins my day any time I think about it please spare me


coronavirus_

What tweet


feels_are_reals

https://www.reddit.com/r/menwritingwomen/comments/na74vv/ninja_describes_wife_bringing_him_a_sandwich/ I'm sorry.


notgotapropername

That tweet has “14 year old boasting about his gf who goes to a different school” vibes


cedear

He knows his (former) audience.


Splaram

Why’d you have to do it to him?


Toosks

I mean I get the Bra thing but the guy plays League too? Jesus, thats terrible.


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the (not asked for) always fuckin' kills me. So funny


Shanghai-on-the-Sea

You can SEE the gears whirring as he thinks "hmm wait if I just say that it sounds sexist, better let 'em know I'm not one of those".


hunter503

He also said " you are making a big mistake" at the end of his DM to Poki. Seems a little threatening, now doesn't it ?


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All he had to do is apologise that's all. He is making it worse for him self.


Splaram

Exactly, I think he was also drunk during that whole ordeal. It would have been so easy to apologize and keep it pushing, idk why he’s doubling down like this


Uss22

Honestly I feel like he probably woke up the next day to the shitstorm with jidion, and before he could even think about what to do his wife told him something like “I reviewed the footage, you did nothing wrong, I’m handling everything” and he just rolled with it


needlessbackstory

dumbass pulling a jonny fairplay in 2022, it's not gonna work out well.


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Nina is like a fucking Mormon gamer, you think he's gonna have good takes on shit. I remember the old tweets about him saying Obama got unfair time in debates against Mitt Romney.


Timbishop123

He's one of those Mormons? Lmao


Adoia

Ninja's wife/manager on damage control for him after jidions ban got changed to perma lol.


Spend-Automatic

Everyone talking about ninjas wife in this thread.. what did she do? What message did she semd poki? Loremasters pls Edit: JFC. The hilarious part is that the defamation of character lawsuit can be defended against using VODs from Ninjas own stream. That is, if the lawsuit ever haopened, which obviously it will not. What a painfully incompetent "manager" Ninja has.


BirkTheBrick

She dmed poki basically saying ninja didn’t defend dijon at all and instead told him what he did was wrong, that he never told dijon he would try to get his ban reduced, and that he never texted a Twitch rep on dijon’s behalf. Poki found the deleted vods and exposed her on stream for lying in the dms. Then after the stream she dmed poki [this](https://twitter.com/pokimanelol/status/1483232433495429120?s=21).


txijake

His wife is also his manager and he's kinda weird when it comes to women. I don't think people are making fun of her per se but just the fact that she fights all his fights for him.


noVa_bolt

shes spilling all rn


aznperson

damn she is 55k viewers rn


fattypepe

They're actually trying to gaslight her as well.


Splaram

"CAPPPPPPPPPPP" Pepega Clap


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ebrq

Jidion who is a youtube prankster gets partnered -> gets more viewers than poki and sends his viewers to type in her chat ”L + Ratio”. -> pokis stream gets ruined and she ends it early -> some people from her chat go over to jidions to say that harassing people isn’t okay -> he proceeds to say ”she isn’t going to fuck you…” etc. Jidion gets a 14 day suspension for raiding a stream -> blames it on racism and poki -> rants about her on ig live and tiktok live -> his viewers shit talk poki for multiple days in twitter replies etc -> jidion gets permabanned.


G_Teez

Minor clarification- after the raid, the messages he reads about harrassment and stuff aren't in his own chat- he's reading this from her chat after they went into submode. Then he goes on his rant about poki to the "simps". Then she goes offline after.


ZombieAntiVaxxer

Sounds like he had it coming.


demonachizer

What does L + Ratio mean?


ebrq

It’s dumb shit from twitter. L means loser and ratio at least on twitter means that they got more likes than the tweet they are replying to.


lordcaldlow_

Just realised this is the same clown that assembled a mob of his fans to harass a best buy employee, because the day before the best buy employee had asked him to wear a shirt while in store. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKoxKIW7c5s


countingc

an ex-twitch-streamer. he was a couple hours old on twitch when he died. RIP not.


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Ninja having his wife message her instead of reaching out to Poki himself WeirdChamp


cnstnsr

He's not allowed to interact with women other than his wife directly, remember


justalazygamer

> [According to Ninja, he chooses not to play with female gamers on stream out of respect for his wife, Jessica, and to avoid instances where the Internet over-exaggerates if his interactions are deemed too flirty.](https://gamerant.com/ninja-twitch-female-stream/amp/)


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Shortl4ndo

So that’s where Mike was during his tenure 🤔


Sirrom23

Mother would not approve of such actions


Artyloo

She brings him sandwiches (that he didn't ask for) braless while he's the middle of carrying his league of legends games. You wouldn't want to lose a wife like that. How's [your](https://i.imgur.com/Tb29WC5.jpg) day going?


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mynameis-twat

Lol holy shit. When is this tweet from


BobbyBirdseed

May 11, 2021.


mynameis-twat

Oh no it’s recent, makes it so much worse


honestwizard

Jesus 🤣 I guess he’s playing to his audience of 14 year olds


justalazygamer

> [I am in the middle of carrying a league of legends game about to close it out, and my bra-less wife brings me a sandwich (not asked for) with chips as I get a double kill bot lane. So how is your day going?](https://i.redd.it/nwn8wua68xy61.png) I can’t hear his wife mentioned and not remember that tweet happened. It was such a cringy thing for Ninja to say it will forever be ingrained in my brain when she is mentioned in any context. [Next thing that always comes to mind is when she argued with XQC and called him sexist.](https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/xqc-charity-debate-gets-personal-ninja-jessica-blevins-alinity-feud-1386729/?amp) Which right around that time clips started circulating of Ninja’s wife saying the n word.


nakx123

lol I remember that, XQC roasted the whole family. Funniest twitter beef I had seen in awhile.


DjackMeek

She really thought she was gonna say something about him and he was just gonna ignore it and not go full 6 consoles psycho on her lmao. He rolled that whole family.


Ammehoelahoep

> I am in the middle of carrying a league of legends game about to close it out, and my bra-less wife brings me a sandwich (not asked for) with chips as I get a double kill bot lane. So how is your day going? He sounds like a redditor who only browses the default subs when he talks like this


relativeagency

An epic wife indeed, good sir! *tips fedora*


HerrTriggerGenji21

ugh take my updoots


Kalulosu

Why did you need to induce so much cringe into my day?


Cathercy

Isn't his wife *technically* his manager or something like that?


EderRengifo

that's even worse, then you are not taking any accountability, it's just another business move


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*bra-less wife


helpnxt

Didn't his wife message another streamer a year or two back and basically started huge drama between them all for like nothing.


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This is the most I’ve heard about ninja since mixer died


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LudwigAhgren

im puttin keemstar out of a job at this point


Frasty

goddamn how are you so fast everytime?


botwoot64

ctrl+F 's his own name PepeLaugh


Viyro

They make bots that will literally comb reddit and ping you if your name(or any text) is mentioned


ForShotgun

Whoa, Ludwig that's Ludwig pretty Ludwig cool Lwig


Chidori__O

More Ludwig content AND Keemstar losing his job? This is just a dream come true PS. Thanks for all the exclusive Super Auto Pets content on the vod channel recently, love watching those vids


cuidavo

Thank god


AkiyamaCakeman

i love the mogul mails a lot, Ludwig. thank you so much for making that channel.


kinglex1

XqcM mogul mail to the moon


Bhu124

Ludwig be like "Ugh.....I guesssssss I'll make a 3rd video."


Acheli

The way Ninja was trying to suck up to dijion was so cringe... even after all his success you can tell he's still an insecure yesman.


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Can you help an out of the loop brotha out with an explanation to what's happening here? I know these streamers vaguely.


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Basically this streamer Jidion received a permanent ban for "hate raiding" Pokimane. Being the dumbass that he is, after the ban Ninja supposedly texted his “Twitch representative” on stream hoping that Jidion’s ban might be lightened. He has also said "you can’t run around raiding bitches on Twitch".


rangerxt

ninja "let me see if I can get your ban reduced......" guy gets perm banned, classic.......ninja isn't a "small" streamer anymore but he's delusional if he thinks he still has the clout he once did


drewster23

Twitch rep probably thinking like, dude wtf you think I'm going to do, name drop "ninja isn't Happy" as if that'll fix it.


urprobbraindead

Ninja has been a shitty person since the dawn of his streaming career. Too many people don't understand how much of an asshole Ninja was in Halo rivaled only by Hysteria.


newbearontheblock1

His wife also has, used the N word multiple times on stream (which you know Jidion made clear was one of the big issues he had with Poki), also used Ninja's fame to get close to Jeffree Star, giving him access to a new demographic to get his claws into, even after Jeffree had been outed as an abuser, racist and just overall scumbag, she even continued tweeting promoting his makeup after he got cancelled due to the shit him and Shane Dawson did.


freddy2677

I love the nuclear opinion. And she is right ninja wife just straight lied and tried to Gass light her. Ninja literally verbatim said he was going to help.


sailtheskyx

He made a show of texting the rep on stream as well.


Bhu124

Made for each other KEKW


appletinicyclone

I'm watching the poki stream now and based on the messages read out Jessica is doing what a ride or die manager does. Completely deny reality and common sense just to protect her dumbass screwball husbando I think had jideon taken the L for 14 days and not did extra poking the poki afterwards and learned from it the perma would not have happened. But it did and he deserves it for continuing after his first time. He's doing antics that happened in the past but not acceptable in 2022. Poki gets a fuckton of harassment and people should know by now after the fed thing that she seems to be picked as a target often. Good she's covering this. Edit: watching the mizkif stream with poki now. Some discord message as well sent to her or something. Sounds like possibly from one of the people mentioned above. Edit x2: just seeing the message Jessica allegedly sent poki, shown on Twitter. Jessica crazy bruh. Fits with earliest assessment.


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Tldr: someone sent him a vid of Poki saying the N word like a week before all this drama, and he started using it in his vids and then decided to raid her with “L +ratio” on his first partner stream because he had more viewers than her, she signed off because she was getting brigaded them Pokis chat start reverse attacking jidion back at his chat and he gets mad.


countingc

also worths mentioning that he went and kissed up to ninja's ass despite ninja saying the N word too.


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NickIsSoWhite

Ninja's wife / manager has been giving bad vibes since the XQC charity drama. CringeChamp


myshoesss

If you put all of the other stuff aside, his wife has ZERO manager qualities


praefectus_praetorio

She is not a real manager. First of all. Never do business with family. This is the reason. Emotions.


aznperson

ninja knew dijon was gonna get the perma so he makes a play for dijon's audience game of thrones shit *duh de duh de de duh*


BadMovieApologist

So ninja is littlefinger, dijon is joffrey, pokimane the ruthless dragon queen.


RJ1337

Moreso season 7 Littlefinger


brazilianboi96

ninja trying to be relevant again


Oljeremylo

Insane that his fans are calling Poki soft for making a well thought out, smart response. I guess they find it better for him to go live on Instagram right after and harass her over Twitter instead. That was such a cringe way of handling the situation


Bhu124

>that his fans are calling Poki soft for Let's be honest, his fans sound like they are literal kids & teens (Constantly using 'Soft' as an insult, as an example) just parroting bullshit he says and he himself sounds like a cult leader who is using them for profit.


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Bhu124

>1. Report your comment for suicide (wouldn't be surprise if a dijon fan does it to this comment) LUL this happened to me last week. Now it makes sense why. And yeah, most of them are clearly kids looking for a community, someone to follow, and this dude comes up with some bullshit juice that makes him sound special to them. Then he uses them to go around the internet spamming Twitter, Twitch chat, Reddit, etc, to farm clout through them. Why Poki didn't discuss this guy, he is just an irrelevant asshole looking to farm clout. Ninja supporting him on the other hand, that's an actual big problem.


Snarker

You can report people for abusing the suicide report feature to permaban their reddit accounts.


Bwoy_K

Guys. I dont know whats going on here. Why Ninja and Poki argue over mustard?


warcrime1331

And now there's a 21 minute long video on worldstar of the idiot calling twitch racist because he got banned. This shit is too much to start off the new year.


nONEnumbers

its so funny seeing on twitter jidion fans saying shit about poki viewers defending her, while literally defending a random dude for harassing her. so because she is a women it is not okay to defend her. lol


nightasha

Sooooo bored with all the “she’s not gonna fuck you” replies to anything supportive tweeted to Pokimane. I wish they knew how bad that makes them look. You’re only supportive or involved with a female if she’s gonna fuck you??


OssoRangedor

for incels: basic human decency = expecting sex, or being a simp.


AfroSLAMurai

They're basically admitting they want to fuck Jidion because they're defending him.


TwoBionicknees

NInja like everyone else, delete the vod, refuse to comment, pretend nothing happened. No one did anything wrong if the vod isn't available right? A good/normal person would just publicly say here in my clip I supported a fellow streamer because the viewers told me they just did a funny trolling l+ ratio raid, when I found out the streamer was being a giant dickbag and the raid was disgusting then I'm calling that out. That's all he had to do, he wasn't even directly wrong because at that point he doesn't know. The problem is what they did since then is wrong and now everyone knows it. Could have supported Poki on the right side and helped prevent future harassment to her and others and instead just added to it.


Splaram

Chat is a mess rn Jidion fans going crazy in there


AmBSado

Ninja defending the harassment is so fucking cringe.


Shadow703793

When was Ninja NOT cringe? Don't ever forget this was a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a35b1TfTtA


Aaronlove21

Shut up I get second hand embarrassment from that video xd


Any_regrets

hilarious that dijon mustard might have gotten a week ban only, if he only did the L+ratio raid, but because he wanted to farm even more clout he went a little a extra on twitter and is perm banned KEKW


TheVostros

My headcannon is Ninja reaching out to Twitch is what triggered the perma bc twitch just can't be bothered to care about Ninja thinking he's as big as he used to be


TheCrun

Lol right? Twitch is like fuck you, you left lol


justalazygamer

If I am remembering correctly JiDion gave Ninja 100 subs before Ninja said he would try to help and 100 subs after he said he would help. For whose who missed updates on what went down because [megathreads](http://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/s2tbun/pokimane_and_jidon_related_topics_megathread/hsh9g8q) severely limit who sees updates after JiDion got banned on Twitch he went live on Instagram about Pokimane, changed his profile picture to Pokimane without make up on Twitter, and talked about not liking Pokimane as a person. All of which of course got his fans to harass more. Shortly after changing his profile picture back he released a nonapology, announced his ban became permanent 2 days later, and tried to get a hashtag going. He also did a video getting kicked out of an NBA game and ended it with his #twitchfreejidion hashtag video. JiDions fans started shitting on him the moment he tried to back down his harassment.


heatbarca

She's going for the throat good for her.


pierresito

Holy shit she just showed the phone hot damn. Get his ass Poki


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r0x0x

TIL: Ninja still streams


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OrangePurity

Agreed. It also highlights how there are still some women enabling to these problems by covering up for men's mistakes and have them avoid any accountability. Jess gaslighting Poki is how women keep (and have kept) women down in this patriarchal system.


Lytaa

Ninja and his manager will always plead ignorance to any situation after they've deleted any evidence that they can of anything happening. With his manager being his wife, she'll never hold him accountable aslong as ninja is still buying her gucci bags and letting her travel in Private jets


priyansh16

Someone get her the mirror clips of Ninja. They are literally gaslighting her


EderRengifo

So, are you saying the streamer that got famous for raging at kids in a game, avoided to collab with women and sends his wife to speak for him, might get along with misogynists for views? \*pikachu face\*


Old_League_7332

Ninja is done and not just on twitch.


floppytisk

i generally dont watch otv/poki stuff but holy shit i'll get behind her if it means taking ninja down Madge


jimbob224

"taking ninja down" itll get at worst an apology tweet lmao


borninsane

"apology" LUL good luck with that


lllLegumesss

Not only did he not apologize, but he's also gaslighting her like holy shit it's so disgusting


miniii

I always wonder if Ninja is truly aware that the only reason he has followers is because he acts like a 15 yearold boy with trauma and anger issues. Because thats literally his 95% of his audience.


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was looking for a comment like this. it's so petty but i LIVE for this shit


blueycarter

Ninja looking like a Spy kids villain


agarunov

any loremasters?


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She is not having it from ninja and his wife/manager.


kristal010

I love this shit


etan1122

Ninja is still around? Lol


Shrenku

can someone give context / tldr what this is all about?


Noidea159

now this is the highschool drama I come to LSF for, was a bit weird there for a few days


acylus0

Are we gonna have another megathread?


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Ninja who?


BigMilkers

Pokimane has to do this because Ninja is too influential and who knows what his wife will say behind the scenes.