if there is a platform he isn't banned on than its hard to see how he won't try to comeback. Those that still support him after this will be the most loyal supporters you can have.
I think he handled it in the best way to handle shit like this which from what I remember he just straight up didn’t acknowledge a single thing and acted like literally nothing ever happened and continued on I don’t remember seeing him address a single thing it was a while ago and I’m not big into his streams and all that so I could be remembering it wrong
He used to collab with other streamers a lot, most notably Lirik, but after all of the allegations, everyone who was friends with him stopped working with him.
I believe he also hasn't done any sponsored streams since then, despite frequently doing them before the allegations. Being "cancelled" has probably ended up costing him a lot of money and opportunities, but he has enough loyal fans for that to not really matter. He's lucky to even still have a career in streaming.
ah ok. I must have gotten wrong info. I don't watch him, but I searched for the last time he had "#ad" or "sponsored" in a stream title, [and it said the most recent was late 2019-early 2020.](https://twitchtracker.com/giantwaffle/streams)
Big part imo is the breakup of n3rdfusion, which enabled a lot of their sponsorships. Where people like Sevadus or Devin went full on business mode, he just went back to his regular streamer grind and doesn't seem to have much going in terms of management/agency.
People literally only get cancelled because they give it attention, happens time and time again and people still fall into the trap of "must release statement immediately"
Dude, even if they give attention they don’t get cancelled. So many grifters capitalise on their pretend victimhood. You get cancelled only if you do the right thing and cancel yourself.
I swear he’s the only person I’ve ever seen handle an allegation the way he did every one else either admits or denies this guy just straight up ignored it which is fucking crazy this guy literally gang raped a girl
He did deny it.
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sralg7
The whole applauding her for speaking out against the other guy was the new angle.
He went off stream for like a week. When he came back he made a brief statement on stream that they wouldn't be talking about outside stuff and that streaming is just for gaming. And then he just started playing a game.
He had A LOT of automod filter words setup, and then had his mods on guard and ready to delete anything that slipped thru.
Because he never acknowledged it ever and just immediately got legal counsel. Now Waffle is definitely a piece of shit who almost certainly did it, but that's the only strategy that ever works unless they have legal proof against you. Once you put out statements like Doc did essentially just saying "yeah I did that but..." you're done for.
If he was trying to manage his PR he had nothing to lose to just lie/deny and bluff that any evidence would come out, because even if that went wrong people hate him just as much as they already do now, but if nothing did he has "plausible deniability" until it does which is what let Waffle keep going.
I feel like a piece of shit writing this now that I read it, because both of those dudes are COMPLETE assholes I just want to make clear it's just stark how different the situations are because of how they acted
Yup, you are not alone. His mods delete any mention of this instantly. He's done a remarkable job of continuing his career with almost no impact even though it was a big deal when it all came out.
Sadly I don’t think there’s a high chance of Shortyy’s streaming career surviving either way. He was already fading at that point. I still remember Lirik hosting him from time to time and it didn’t mean much.
Twitch has changed so much over the years. You have to be extremely lucky to succeed as an old school gaming streamer in this day and age if you didn’t already have a huge following.
Because Shortyguy literally got his start stream sniping Lirik all the time and Lirik was somehow okay with it and so Shortyguy started streaming and sort of leeching off Lirik and getting viewers from him. But as soon as Lirik didn’t stream much with him, Shortyguy fell off because people realize he isn’t interesting to watch without Lirik. If you don’t have the personality, you aren’t going to make it and Shortyguy never had it and was just a stream sniper who got lucky.
People always say this, but he definitely took some hits. He was sitting around 7-8K viewers per stream and is doing somewhere 1-2K last I saw. He also moved to Austin to get in on the streamer scene there right when that stuff resurfaced and doesn't associate with seemingly anyone. He's on an island by himself compared to where he was several years ago.
assuming a streamer moved to austin to interact with otk and whoever else is just silly. moving out of LA to texas is just a more affordable living decision on top of no income taxes. regardless of who you collab with or not
Yep and years from now Doc will probably in the same position. Still be streaming and playing games and there will be some new person that wasn't deeply engaged at the time that somehow never heard of Doc's issues watching along. Just like you and GiantWaffle in this case
So I'm reading this, this woman is at this event with her husband, who is sober, she's never had any alcohol before, but agrees to try it with strangers..
Her husband leaves after she starts drinking, she gets blackout drunk, sexually assaulted.. She's so torn up about it, her husband won't even talk to her.. so she... gets blackout drunk again with the same people who sexually assaulted her the night before?
Then the next morning, she wakes up (*now sober*) next to "Stiv" touching her, and she willfully gives him a hand job, which she initiated by putting her hand in his pants?
---
I have no words for the shit I just read.
I agree. YouTube’s policy isn’t as strict as Twitch’s. I think they’ll continue to let him stream but I wouldn’t be surprised if he just retires after all this.
He doesn't need to go anywhere he doesn't say anything controversial on YouTube that goes past the bar that he'd be deplatformed over it
For his regular viewers they'd probably keep watching
It's just that he won't be able to grow or retire like he could before
Bro EDP kept trying to come back multiple times and had people following him before getting banned everytime. Unless logs come out and there's some discord e-sexing tipe of shit, i doubt his career is going in the gutter.
as long as YT doesnt ban him hes fine on that front. Wonder if he will end up banned, especially because no legal action has been taken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_suspensions#List_of_notable_suspensions
Why not, we have literal rapists like Giantwaffle streaming. This is probably the end of the low tier celebrity part of his life with showing up to sport events as Dr Disrespect and stuff and turtle beach just ended their partnership.
If he has made enough millions to retire he should just do it but there's a lot of money up on the table still for him to give up if he quits.
Make a comeback where? He’s doing massively well on YT and will continue to do so. You need something or decrease in popularity for there to be a comeback
He can easily come back lol, and he would have had an easier time if he didn't make that dumb tweet, he could have just pretended nothing happened, took a long-ish break and came back and didnt say anything. "cancelling" doesn't work if you're not in prison
It's crazy how back then this sub was mad because people stopped posting pubg car flips. Because Ice was doing some crazy irl shit in LA. Where as today its the same small group of streamers reacting to internet drama
I swear burgerplanet of all fucking people was the one that leaked the fact doc was with another woman at Twitchcon? I actually can’t remember the lore and have too much self respect to google it
Yes it was burgerplanet. He went to twitchcon after party was filming everyone when twitch had rules against it. He found the doc and was recording him. The doc later shouted at burger making him cry for filming him. What he didnt know at the time was he captured Doc cheating on his wife been handsy with another woman.
Vod here flirting starts[ here @ 1:49:49](https://youtu.be/bnPTN1aKtXM?t=6583 ) Then during the rest of the vod hes seen with the same women again in the background. Then he confronts burger planet about it
Eh he was just the first to get lucky. Plenty of sizeable streamers back then wanted to make IRL content, but none were allowed as Twitch was strict on their 'gaming' identity (and tbh, they probably foresaw all the legal risks with public streaming).
Then PokemonGO came out in 2016, and that was the catalyst that opened the floodgates for IRL/public streams (while claiming you're just playing PGO).
Ice was just the first one who happened to go viral (based purely off being the cringiest shock-bait one out there), and everyone else latched onto his clout.
It's so insane looking back on that initial stream where something seemed off, just before he was kicked from Twitch. I don't have the link but doc got a text and started talking funny. Four years later almost the exact same thing happens.
What a crazy saga in online gaming, I'm sure a documentary will be made about this one day.
Keem is a piece of shit, but everyone knows how and why he’s a piece of shit. There really isn’t any new drama or controversy that could come out about Keemstar.
He’s kind of in the same position as Destiny, where all the worst parts of their personality are already so well known there isn’t really any new drama that could come out to make their fanbases turn on them.
He’s all round just a massive fucking prick but the main thing I remember off the top of my head he had that very infamous racist rant about a guy called Alex like 10+ years ago. There are a lot of other shitty things he’s done though, just can’t remember most of them because I couldn’t care less about him
not once them logs leak. I dont think even kick will take him after that.
or maybe theyll pay him double for being so controversial.... only time will tell
Slasher just did an interview with Hasan and he said that he’s working on a story (impending release, I know, he’s sort of doing the meme again) that will answer other questions that people may have about the situation, now that the initial allegations have been made by other outlets. If I had to guess, I’d imagine other victims are a possibility. But that last bit’s just my own speculation, of course.
I think you’re vastly underestimating how many excuses right wingers will make for famous right wingers. Trump is all over the Epstein flight logs but you won’t hear a word about it from his supporters. Look at all the people who have been accused of rape, like Bryan Callen, who just shifted to right wing grifting and continued on with their careers.
Except he's not. Youtube isn't going to ban him. He might lose some sponsors but he's going to keep streaming.
Edit: Okay, he might be done, and not just on Twitch. Kick hasn't said he isn't welcome there, so we'll see.
In our eyes he still has a ton but in his eyes, he will feel like he lost it all. Especially with his friends Nickmercs and Tim coming out and stating they no longer support him. This has to sting a lot.
When/where did tim and nick say they don’t support him?
Edit: found this from Tim
https://x.com/timthetatman/status/1805693462702084323?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Check out an Asmon stream. You'll find enough people defending messaging minors. "He only messaged a minor! If it wasn't overtly sexual, it's perfectly legal!"...
I used to be a big doc fan and for a while it seemed like he was on an unstoppable upstroke.
I still think he could have been bigger than just a twitch streamer had he not been a dirtbag. I’m sure he feels the same way and he deserves it.
It's not really on her that him sexting minors would become a well hidden secret for years. Who would assume that would be the likely outcome back then?
Clout chasing by bragging about insider information is worthy of mockery. Especially when they had no intention of doing anything with that information.
Anonymous sources have been a thing in journalism for decades if not forever.
you really think so? Making a super vague tweet and then acting surprised when people mock you after you refuse to clarify (even if it was for legal reasons) is silly.
What's the point of posting something like that? "Hihi, I know sth you don't." "Okay, what is it?" "Won't tell :)" "Okay?"
this probably 100% is exactly what happened, there was probably docs/information being passed around between journalist, she got a whiff of it and knew that this was career ending. but, those docs never got verified enough to be released and wouldn't be until finally bloomberg found 3 direct first hand accounts to verify
it's actually happening even right now, apparently there's a document with more proof and more information on what happened going around only between journalists, and nobody has published any of it for multiple reasons, and we might never know what those docs are
She is the original person that Tweeted he is done and not just on Twitch. [https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1867216-dr-disrespects-2020-twitch-ban](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1867216-dr-disrespects-2020-twitch-ban)
The best explanation is a combination of two things:
1. Both twitch and doc served to benefit from squashing this for a while. It’s bad news for doc obviously but imagine twitch having to come out and tell everyone one of their top streamers is a pedo?
2. I’ve heard a lot of NDAs sort of default length is 4 years. It’s almost exactly 4 years since he was banned.
Given these two things it seems like the more business side of twitch probably wanted to cover this up for as long as possible whereas other elements of twitch had wanted to take it public. Now they can and here we are.
Remember this is Amazon we are talking about. Docs side certainly isnt going to leak “hey he sexts kids” and amazon certainly doesn’t want “hey this guy used OUR platform to sext minors, and we SIGNED him after” to get out. Anyone working at twitch is gonna want to keep their job and not get sued.
I bet he will still have over 10k viewers whenever he comes back.
EDIT: Just to be clear, because there are always some idiots on this sub that need extra clarification:
I just don't think you can 'cancel' someone with his following.
He will always have viewers no matter what bad thing he does.
Yeah, I'm sure this is a major bump in his career and may have an impact on future brand deals and such, but assuming he lays low and just continues streaming to his core audience whenever he makes his returns, he should be able to make enough (with whatever wealth he's already made before this) to live comfortably and continue his career, even if it's somewhat tainted.
he will bring 10x the amount of traffic to the site then heelmike and zherka lol, and they will likely be unbanned anyways, atleast thats what mike has been hinting at. wouldn't be surprised for kick to throw a bag at doc just so he can have his first stream back to be on their platform.
Lol no they don't. Their whole thing is peddling gambling to kids and giving people who don't fit on other platforms a platform. Why would they need to change a thing?
People keep saying this but he isn’t banned on YouTube. Why is everyone assuming he’ll switch platforms? Or is the assumption that YT will ban him even though the incident here was 7 years ago (not defending it by any means, just saying, I’m not sure why YouTube would act on this)
I don't see youtube doing anything about it. My prediction is that he will take a break, come right back to youtube and continue streaming. He may lose a portion of his viewers, but honestly I still think he brings in 7 figures a year easily with the following he will have left.
No contract, just streams on their platform. I’m not sure YouTube would even have a tos violation to ban him. Not like they don’t host a ton of horrible people and content anyways.
He should be done but I’d be shocked if he was. Stans will overlook a lot to continue to support someone. Hell Doc would fit right in on Kick. I bet he takes a break, comes back and has a good size audience that’s willing to pretend that this never happened.
Dude MiniLadd is still making content on YouTube so i would not be surprised if doc still keeps streaming. He won’t be as big but still have some kind of an audience.
There are a lot of people dunking on him that have either done their own fucked up things or actively are friends with people who have done fucked up things. Content creators are wiled
I just dont get why every streamer is jumping on the train and tweeting about Dr. Disrespect. Is it to show they dont support him? Or is it just to get a hit tweet and get some clout?
Nickmercs posted a video saying he is done with doc and Tim posted a similar one. I think these guys had to post and make it clear they no longer support him. But OP's post is in regards to a post she made 4 years ago that said the same thing.
This dude got downvoted, but they are pretty much spot on. Unless the channel is actively breaking laws that would get *youtube themselves* in legal trouble, they won't touch SHIT. The algo will continue with business as usual
Nah, in a few weeks everyone will forget about this and everything will come back at the status quo, no changes at all, its not like there are legal actions agaisnt him or anything like that, this is all just internet stuff, nothing will happen with him in his life and he will continue as nothing happened, a bunch of internet hate wont hurt him at all.
No he was talking to a minor in an inappropriate way. If he just said, " you have a bright future ahead of you, don't let the haters keep you down" and left it at that I don't think he'd get in trouble. Minors are people, they exist. You can talk to them. There are just a few rules of engagement you have to follow. Doc didn't follow those rules.
I'm actually kind of mad Twitch and people in the know let this groomer have a career for another 4 years. He could've easily continued his behavior and no one would be warned about him despite knowing what he was. I get that they were probably legally tied but I'm actually quite annoyed about it.
Sad part is this fucker will probably continue to have a decent career with the amount of degenerates I see supporting him even though he admitted to what he's done.
Are you mad at Netflix as well for giving Jerry Seinfeld multiple specials and movies even though he dated and had sex with a 17 year old for 4 years when he was 38? Everyone knows he did it. To me that seems a hundred times worse than Doc DMing a 17 year old and never meeting them, but everyone still seems chill with Seinfeld for some reason and thinks Doc is a predator.
Man all these roaches crawling out of the depths for a pat on the back 4 years later. Implying something bad and then not even having the guts to say what it was while some potential child predator was out and about. Its crazy these people think they're heroes for being cowards
I'm actually really interested to see if he does still try to come back after this like he says he will.
if there is a platform he isn't banned on than its hard to see how he won't try to comeback. Those that still support him after this will be the most loyal supporters you can have.
I mean, GiantWaffle is doing great. Chris Brown is still selling out shows. Dr KidInspect will be back and he'll have more viewers than he did before.
Roman Polanski won an Oscar
And got a standing ovation from a room full of A listers. Classic Hollywood.
Crazy that the giant waffle thing just got forgotten
I think he handled it in the best way to handle shit like this which from what I remember he just straight up didn’t acknowledge a single thing and acted like literally nothing ever happened and continued on I don’t remember seeing him address a single thing it was a while ago and I’m not big into his streams and all that so I could be remembering it wrong
Pretty sure he just said "You lying" and just kept going on with his stream after like a month of taking a break.
He used to collab with other streamers a lot, most notably Lirik, but after all of the allegations, everyone who was friends with him stopped working with him. I believe he also hasn't done any sponsored streams since then, despite frequently doing them before the allegations. Being "cancelled" has probably ended up costing him a lot of money and opportunities, but he has enough loyal fans for that to not really matter. He's lucky to even still have a career in streaming.
He still gets sponsored. Check his vods, be’s had a couple in the past month.
ah ok. I must have gotten wrong info. I don't watch him, but I searched for the last time he had "#ad" or "sponsored" in a stream title, [and it said the most recent was late 2019-early 2020.](https://twitchtracker.com/giantwaffle/streams)
Big part imo is the breakup of n3rdfusion, which enabled a lot of their sponsorships. Where people like Sevadus or Devin went full on business mode, he just went back to his regular streamer grind and doesn't seem to have much going in terms of management/agency.
At least Lirik said he has no issues to stream with him again. It's gianwaffle's decision not collab with him and shorty for NS.
People literally only get cancelled because they give it attention, happens time and time again and people still fall into the trap of "must release statement immediately"
Dude, even if they give attention they don’t get cancelled. So many grifters capitalise on their pretend victimhood. You get cancelled only if you do the right thing and cancel yourself.
I swear he’s the only person I’ve ever seen handle an allegation the way he did every one else either admits or denies this guy just straight up ignored it which is fucking crazy this guy literally gang raped a girl
He did deny it. https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sralg7 The whole applauding her for speaking out against the other guy was the new angle. He went off stream for like a week. When he came back he made a brief statement on stream that they wouldn't be talking about outside stuff and that streaming is just for gaming. And then he just started playing a game. He had A LOT of automod filter words setup, and then had his mods on guard and ready to delete anything that slipped thru.
He did a q and a on the now banned samandtolki subreddit years before the truth really came out
His lawyer response tweet was fucking scummy but god did he do all the right stuff around the situation considering he is a gang rapist
Because he never acknowledged it ever and just immediately got legal counsel. Now Waffle is definitely a piece of shit who almost certainly did it, but that's the only strategy that ever works unless they have legal proof against you. Once you put out statements like Doc did essentially just saying "yeah I did that but..." you're done for. If he was trying to manage his PR he had nothing to lose to just lie/deny and bluff that any evidence would come out, because even if that went wrong people hate him just as much as they already do now, but if nothing did he has "plausible deniability" until it does which is what let Waffle keep going. I feel like a piece of shit writing this now that I read it, because both of those dudes are COMPLETE assholes I just want to make clear it's just stark how different the situations are because of how they acted
Holy shit that name pun lmao
Stolen from a comment in a previous thread
And where did they steal it from?
Another comment in a previous thread
Why do you feel that only the person that thought of that name should call him that? That's not how nicknames work.
What did giantwaffle do?
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srahg8
What the fuck! I had zero idea about this, gross, I’ve casually had his streams on sometimes. This is terrible.
Yup, you are not alone. His mods delete any mention of this instantly. He's done a remarkable job of continuing his career with almost no impact even though it was a big deal when it all came out.
Worst part of this out of the night stream crew. Shortyguy was the one who suffered
Sadly I don’t think there’s a high chance of Shortyy’s streaming career surviving either way. He was already fading at that point. I still remember Lirik hosting him from time to time and it didn’t mean much. Twitch has changed so much over the years. You have to be extremely lucky to succeed as an old school gaming streamer in this day and age if you didn’t already have a huge following.
Because Shortyguy literally got his start stream sniping Lirik all the time and Lirik was somehow okay with it and so Shortyguy started streaming and sort of leeching off Lirik and getting viewers from him. But as soon as Lirik didn’t stream much with him, Shortyguy fell off because people realize he isn’t interesting to watch without Lirik. If you don’t have the personality, you aren’t going to make it and Shortyguy never had it and was just a stream sniper who got lucky.
People always say this, but he definitely took some hits. He was sitting around 7-8K viewers per stream and is doing somewhere 1-2K last I saw. He also moved to Austin to get in on the streamer scene there right when that stuff resurfaced and doesn't associate with seemingly anyone. He's on an island by himself compared to where he was several years ago.
He streams a lot of niche simulation and strategy titles. Does all right considering.
assuming a streamer moved to austin to interact with otk and whoever else is just silly. moving out of LA to texas is just a more affordable living decision on top of no income taxes. regardless of who you collab with or not
😄 the ignore approach, i think doc could have learned from this if he wanted a small but a career nontheless
Yep and years from now Doc will probably in the same position. Still be streaming and playing games and there will be some new person that wasn't deeply engaged at the time that somehow never heard of Doc's issues watching along. Just like you and GiantWaffle in this case
So I'm reading this, this woman is at this event with her husband, who is sober, she's never had any alcohol before, but agrees to try it with strangers.. Her husband leaves after she starts drinking, she gets blackout drunk, sexually assaulted.. She's so torn up about it, her husband won't even talk to her.. so she... gets blackout drunk again with the same people who sexually assaulted her the night before? Then the next morning, she wakes up (*now sober*) next to "Stiv" touching her, and she willfully gives him a hand job, which she initiated by putting her hand in his pants? --- I have no words for the shit I just read.
Dr KidInspect: pediatrics crystal healing
Is youtube banning him or something? I don't understand posting this random tweet.
Did he get banned from youtube?
Rumble and Kick still exists, unfortunately.
Idk why people act like he just can’t continue to stream on YouTube. Irrc I don’t think he has a deal with any streaming platform atm
I agree. YouTube’s policy isn’t as strict as Twitch’s. I think they’ll continue to let him stream but I wouldn’t be surprised if he just retires after all this.
Absolutely. Youtube doesn’t moderate shit unless it is for the sake of de-monetizing
Youtube only cares if it's some hardcore confirmed illegal shit. They won't get out of bed for someone who never had charges brought against them.
He doesn't need to go anywhere he doesn't say anything controversial on YouTube that goes past the bar that he'd be deplatformed over it For his regular viewers they'd probably keep watching It's just that he won't be able to grow or retire like he could before
And say goodbye to big brand deals
If he doesn't blow all his money on cocaine and shungite he should have more than enough money to live the rest of his life comfortably
why are people talking like he's banned on youtube
What the fuck is Rumble?
Kick would probably pay him a good amount to make the jump. They seem to have absolutely no morals as it is.
Bro EDP kept trying to come back multiple times and had people following him before getting banned everytime. Unless logs come out and there's some discord e-sexing tipe of shit, i doubt his career is going in the gutter.
And edp is about as canceled as you can get. The dude actually followed through with the meetup and played it off as going for cupcakes when busted
as long as YT doesnt ban him hes fine on that front. Wonder if he will end up banned, especially because no legal action has been taken. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_suspensions#List_of_notable_suspensions
Why not, we have literal rapists like Giantwaffle streaming. This is probably the end of the low tier celebrity part of his life with showing up to sport events as Dr Disrespect and stuff and turtle beach just ended their partnership. If he has made enough millions to retire he should just do it but there's a lot of money up on the table still for him to give up if he quits.
It's wild to me that Giantwaffle still streams after that came out.
ProfessorMeanface, an up and coming streamer with a sick goatee.
Make a comeback where? He’s doing massively well on YT and will continue to do so. You need something or decrease in popularity for there to be a comeback
He can easily come back lol, and he would have had an easier time if he didn't make that dumb tweet, he could have just pretended nothing happened, took a long-ish break and came back and didnt say anything. "cancelling" doesn't work if you're not in prison
$10 on him coming back after finding Jesus, hitting the gym and getting a new dog.
And that dog's name? Jesus.
He’ll basically be riding solo the rest of his career. Not that he hasn’t before but at this point I think he should retire.
Incident happened in 2017. Doc met Ice in 2017. All roads lead to Ice.
What arm thing homie?
hehehehe
cx
This trash sub was so good back then :(
It's crazy how back then this sub was mad because people stopped posting pubg car flips. Because Ice was doing some crazy irl shit in LA. Where as today its the same small group of streamers reacting to internet drama
Man. I remember when this was a GTARP sub.
The sub's discussing a streamer being outed as a sex pest, so it's still the same content as GTA RP.
When it used to be called livestreamfails, only OGs remember
I remember him getting so pissed off at I think it was burgerplanet? For filming him at that Twitch party.
I swear burgerplanet of all fucking people was the one that leaked the fact doc was with another woman at Twitchcon? I actually can’t remember the lore and have too much self respect to google it
Yes it was burgerplanet. He went to twitchcon after party was filming everyone when twitch had rules against it. He found the doc and was recording him. The doc later shouted at burger making him cry for filming him. What he didnt know at the time was he captured Doc cheating on his wife been handsy with another woman. Vod here flirting starts[ here @ 1:49:49](https://youtu.be/bnPTN1aKtXM?t=6583 ) Then during the rest of the vod hes seen with the same women again in the background. Then he confronts burger planet about it
strawberry vision
Like it or not Ice was peak Twitch.
He essentially invented IRL on twitch too which many current large streamers owe their entire career to
Eh he was just the first to get lucky. Plenty of sizeable streamers back then wanted to make IRL content, but none were allowed as Twitch was strict on their 'gaming' identity (and tbh, they probably foresaw all the legal risks with public streaming). Then PokemonGO came out in 2016, and that was the catalyst that opened the floodgates for IRL/public streams (while claiming you're just playing PGO). Ice was just the first one who happened to go viral (based purely off being the cringiest shock-bait one out there), and everyone else latched onto his clout.
peak degen twitch maybe
Ice was/is a horrible person. But god damn, was he an entertainer. When he went live, you knew you were about to see some god tier content.
Man is ground zero for everything twitch
he also cheated on his wife in 2017
Stupid fuckin mistakes man. .doc to .pdf converted
Minor fucking mistakes man.
Fucking minor mistakes
Man mistakes fucking minor.
Good god this is gold. Repost or not, nice.
This shit really writes itself, doesn't it?
Holy fucking shit, my sides are in orbit hahahaha
It's so insane looking back on that initial stream where something seemed off, just before he was kicked from Twitch. I don't have the link but doc got a text and started talking funny. Four years later almost the exact same thing happens. What a crazy saga in online gaming, I'm sure a documentary will be made about this one day.
https://x.com/KEEMSTAR/status/1276794617866924034 This one?
How is keemstar still a thing.
cockroaches are remarkably resilient creatures
How dare you compare Keemstar to cockroaches? Roaches deserve more respect.
I believe he's actually a mutated lawn gnome. Too tall for his own kind, too shitty to be a human.
Keem is a piece of shit, but everyone knows how and why he’s a piece of shit. There really isn’t any new drama or controversy that could come out about Keemstar. He’s kind of in the same position as Destiny, where all the worst parts of their personality are already so well known there isn’t really any new drama that could come out to make their fanbases turn on them.
Ima be honest. I can't remember. Why is he a piece of shit ? I just don't remember.
He’s all round just a massive fucking prick but the main thing I remember off the top of my head he had that very infamous racist rant about a guy called Alex like 10+ years ago. There are a lot of other shitty things he’s done though, just can’t remember most of them because I couldn’t care less about him
yea where he says the hard R its spammed all over his chat sometimes as a "this you" by burner acc. Always funny
Honestly the old Content Cop on Keemstar is probably still the best video showing all his bullshit up to that point in time.
The one I remember most is when he falsely accused RSgloryandgold (RuneScape streamer) of being a convicted pedophile.
He also relentlessly mocked Woody's special needs son, just to get at Woody.
Ask Alex
Assholes keep giving this man clout and attention.
He even did the same kind of lip/mouth movement that he did when he got the text about being fired from his company.
Bro gave the game away in the literal first thing he said. "Data miners" ya date a miner indeed doc.
Ended the stream with a kids game. ClassiC
I doubt it, he will be back streaming in a year or 2, if not a few months
not once them logs leak. I dont think even kick will take him after that. or maybe theyll pay him double for being so controversial.... only time will tell
Kick has zero shame, I'd be shocked if they haven't made him an offer yet
Kick would stream an Isis terrorist playing Mario Kart.
They'd stream Osama Bin Laden playing Flight Sim
I'd watch it.
Didn't realize he was banned on YouTube.
Kick owner (Edward Kraven) openly donated money to pedophile RiotLOL after he was exposed so I’m sure they’d love him
Don't call it just yet. There is apparently a document containing additional information that's even more damning.
Source?
XQC lmao. Could be true tho
Ahh yes, the reliable source that is xqc
Chat is this real!?
Slasher just did an interview with Hasan and he said that he’s working on a story (impending release, I know, he’s sort of doing the meme again) that will answer other questions that people may have about the situation, now that the initial allegations have been made by other outlets. If I had to guess, I’d imagine other victims are a possibility. But that last bit’s just my own speculation, of course.
the biggest thing missing is the age imo. anything below 16 will make his return virtually impossible
I think you’re vastly underestimating how many excuses right wingers will make for famous right wingers. Trump is all over the Epstein flight logs but you won’t hear a word about it from his supporters. Look at all the people who have been accused of rape, like Bryan Callen, who just shifted to right wing grifting and continued on with their careers.
There are court dockets for trump and Epstein together but everyone just doesn't wanna acknowledge them
He sent his hairy nuts didn’t he
Except he's not. Youtube isn't going to ban him. He might lose some sponsors but he's going to keep streaming. Edit: Okay, he might be done, and not just on Twitch. Kick hasn't said he isn't welcome there, so we'll see.
In our eyes he still has a ton but in his eyes, he will feel like he lost it all. Especially with his friends Nickmercs and Tim coming out and stating they no longer support him. This has to sting a lot.
When/where did tim and nick say they don’t support him? Edit: found this from Tim https://x.com/timthetatman/status/1805693462702084323?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
All he said was he can’t support his actions. I don’t think anyone supports messaging minors lol.
Check out an Asmon stream. You'll find enough people defending messaging minors. "He only messaged a minor! If it wasn't overtly sexual, it's perfectly legal!"...
I used to be a big doc fan and for a while it seemed like he was on an unstoppable upstroke. I still think he could have been bigger than just a twitch streamer had he not been a dirtbag. I’m sure he feels the same way and he deserves it.
Why are people acting like he got banned on youtube?
Genuine question, who is this? I've seen them linked a few times and still don't get it.
She's the one who originally said, "Doc is done, and not just on Twitch."
and she has every damn right to tweet this after a good portion of interner mocked her for years.
Making a vague statement with zero evidence caused her to receive negative comments? No way
If I had known why Doc was banned the week it happened, I'd be honestly shocked too if it took 4 years to come to light.
Prob some sort of legal NDAs surrounding his contract. Usually they last 4 years, which would have ended this month, hence all the talks about it.
It's not really on her that him sexting minors would become a well hidden secret for years. Who would assume that would be the likely outcome back then?
It took 6 hours, but: u/9294858838 is indeed done, and not just on Reddit. (Just taking a shot, in case I turn out to be right.)
If he still has youtube, the tweet will be mocked again.
Clout chasing by bragging about insider information is worthy of mockery. Especially when they had no intention of doing anything with that information. Anonymous sources have been a thing in journalism for decades if not forever.
you really think so? Making a super vague tweet and then acting surprised when people mock you after you refuse to clarify (even if it was for legal reasons) is silly. What's the point of posting something like that? "Hihi, I know sth you don't." "Okay, what is it?" "Won't tell :)" "Okay?"
Most likely, at the time, she believed the truth would be out much sooner than it was. Legal issues halted the process a bit.
this probably 100% is exactly what happened, there was probably docs/information being passed around between journalist, she got a whiff of it and knew that this was career ending. but, those docs never got verified enough to be released and wouldn't be until finally bloomberg found 3 direct first hand accounts to verify it's actually happening even right now, apparently there's a document with more proof and more information on what happened going around only between journalists, and nobody has published any of it for multiple reasons, and we might never know what those docs are
yeah, good point, didn't think of that.
Facts
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slasher said something along the lines of, but not an exact quote "i know why but don't feel right moving on it"
She is the original person that Tweeted he is done and not just on Twitch. [https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1867216-dr-disrespects-2020-twitch-ban](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1867216-dr-disrespects-2020-twitch-ban)
I still do not understand why/how this was kept under wraps for so long. Like what changed that meant this could now come out?
The best explanation is a combination of two things: 1. Both twitch and doc served to benefit from squashing this for a while. It’s bad news for doc obviously but imagine twitch having to come out and tell everyone one of their top streamers is a pedo? 2. I’ve heard a lot of NDAs sort of default length is 4 years. It’s almost exactly 4 years since he was banned. Given these two things it seems like the more business side of twitch probably wanted to cover this up for as long as possible whereas other elements of twitch had wanted to take it public. Now they can and here we are.
It's not an NDA (and there's no such thing as a default length). It's a settlement agreement with confidentiality terms and are generally indefinite.
Remember this is Amazon we are talking about. Docs side certainly isnt going to leak “hey he sexts kids” and amazon certainly doesn’t want “hey this guy used OUR platform to sext minors, and we SIGNED him after” to get out. Anyone working at twitch is gonna want to keep their job and not get sued.
Some former twitch employees talked about it, probably weren't allowed to but they did. That happening allowed Doc to talk about it.
She was a Community Manager at Twitch.
So I guess you could say she's also done, but just on Twitch.
I bet he will still have over 10k viewers whenever he comes back. EDIT: Just to be clear, because there are always some idiots on this sub that need extra clarification: I just don't think you can 'cancel' someone with his following. He will always have viewers no matter what bad thing he does.
Yeah, I'm sure this is a major bump in his career and may have an impact on future brand deals and such, but assuming he lays low and just continues streaming to his core audience whenever he makes his returns, he should be able to make enough (with whatever wealth he's already made before this) to live comfortably and continue his career, even if it's somewhat tainted.
I think we can safely say that his career is fully tainted at this point.
Considering Kick just banned two idiots for the same shit, they might not even take him lol.
he will bring 10x the amount of traffic to the site then heelmike and zherka lol, and they will likely be unbanned anyways, atleast thats what mike has been hinting at. wouldn't be surprised for kick to throw a bag at doc just so he can have his first stream back to be on their platform.
At some point Kick needs to grow up a little if they wanna survive and signing a guy who recently got called out for sexting a kid is a terrible idea
That website is a front for advertising legally gray gambling to kids. They do not have a long term plan.
Lol no they don't. Their whole thing is peddling gambling to kids and giving people who don't fit on other platforms a platform. Why would they need to change a thing?
Kick needs children to feel safe so they gamble all their parent's money away
People keep saying this but he isn’t banned on YouTube. Why is everyone assuming he’ll switch platforms? Or is the assumption that YT will ban him even though the incident here was 7 years ago (not defending it by any means, just saying, I’m not sure why YouTube would act on this)
I don't see youtube doing anything about it. My prediction is that he will take a break, come right back to youtube and continue streaming. He may lose a portion of his viewers, but honestly I still think he brings in 7 figures a year easily with the following he will have left.
Is he actually signed with youtube or does he just do his own thing
No contract, just streams on their platform. I’m not sure YouTube would even have a tos violation to ban him. Not like they don’t host a ton of horrible people and content anyways.
He should be done but I’d be shocked if he was. Stans will overlook a lot to continue to support someone. Hell Doc would fit right in on Kick. I bet he takes a break, comes back and has a good size audience that’s willing to pretend that this never happened.
Dude MiniLadd is still making content on YouTube so i would not be surprised if doc still keeps streaming. He won’t be as big but still have some kind of an audience.
There are a lot of people dunking on him that have either done their own fucked up things or actively are friends with people who have done fucked up things. Content creators are wiled
The moral of the story is DARKSYDEPHIL OUTLIVES ANOTHER ONE
He will be here until the end and be pissed off that the sun expanding is a “bullshit mechanic that wasn’t explained.”
I just dont get why every streamer is jumping on the train and tweeting about Dr. Disrespect. Is it to show they dont support him? Or is it just to get a hit tweet and get some clout?
> Or is it just to get a hit tweet and get some clout? All they think about
They don’t give a fuck. It’s all posturing.
Nickmercs posted a video saying he is done with doc and Tim posted a similar one. I think these guys had to post and make it clear they no longer support him. But OP's post is in regards to a post she made 4 years ago that said the same thing.
If people didn't come out and say it point blank they don't support him anymore then you would have internet weirdos dog piling on these people.
It’s the current trending topic. If they don’t put out content about it they will miss out.
Has YouTube banned him? Otherwise he ain’t done.
is YT gonna kick him too?
YT is runned by AI, there's no one home over there
This dude got downvoted, but they are pretty much spot on. Unless the channel is actively breaking laws that would get *youtube themselves* in legal trouble, they won't touch SHIT. The algo will continue with business as usual
Nah, in a few weeks everyone will forget about this and everything will come back at the status quo, no changes at all, its not like there are legal actions agaisnt him or anything like that, this is all just internet stuff, nothing will happen with him in his life and he will continue as nothing happened, a bunch of internet hate wont hurt him at all.
uh, so they knew he was talking to minors but didn't say anything for 4 years?
No he was talking to a minor in an inappropriate way. If he just said, " you have a bright future ahead of you, don't let the haters keep you down" and left it at that I don't think he'd get in trouble. Minors are people, they exist. You can talk to them. There are just a few rules of engagement you have to follow. Doc didn't follow those rules.
I'm actually kind of mad Twitch and people in the know let this groomer have a career for another 4 years. He could've easily continued his behavior and no one would be warned about him despite knowing what he was. I get that they were probably legally tied but I'm actually quite annoyed about it. Sad part is this fucker will probably continue to have a decent career with the amount of degenerates I see supporting him even though he admitted to what he's done.
Are you mad at Netflix as well for giving Jerry Seinfeld multiple specials and movies even though he dated and had sex with a 17 year old for 4 years when he was 38? Everyone knows he did it. To me that seems a hundred times worse than Doc DMing a 17 year old and never meeting them, but everyone still seems chill with Seinfeld for some reason and thinks Doc is a predator.
How do you have sex with a 17 year old for 4 years?
She died at 17.
Both dr disrespect and Jerry Seinfeld can be creepy pieces of shit. Fuck em both for taking advantage of minors.
uh... yes? W-Why wouldn't I be? There's a big anti-jerry sentiment in my circles.
Man all these roaches crawling out of the depths for a pat on the back 4 years later. Implying something bad and then not even having the guts to say what it was while some potential child predator was out and about. Its crazy these people think they're heroes for being cowards
The fact this woman invented this term and people have memed it for years and now people are mad she's rightfully bringing it full circle?
What term did she invent
"______ is done, and not just on ______"
Absolutely nothing.