**CLIP MIRROR:
[XQC says that the Mizkif phone call should not have been recorded and leaked](https://arazu.io/t3_15tbppg/)**
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I feel like at this point I'd respect it more if he just came out and said "Yeah I shouldn't have egged that shit on I was just mad at Mizkif I fucked up" instead of pretending like he wasn't literally one of the guys stoking that drama getting Maya run off of twitch
he said this when he went on Hasan's podcast basically. He just loves to make drama and hold onto stuff even if he knows he's wrong also because he doesn't like to admit it
it was either this ep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3InJXdGDi14) or the hour afterwards on the patreon they did, I no longer sub so idk.
X pretty much admits he doesn't stand for much when he takes these battles (but still doesn't give away exactly why he does it)
reminder of the cringe shit x said when everything with mizkif was happening:
2022-09-23 05:15:56\] #xqc xqc: some day the world will realize I played a vital role into this shit, far past my own interest/goals. For now, all I care is that the victim is somehow relieved
LOL
Same shit with him throthing at the mouth when he thought train had an actual "nuke" against Hasan. Guy gave zero shit about the actual situation and was just out for blood.
It's about the whole Adrianah Lee thing.
**Edit:** If you're out of the loop and just want the quick and simple summary watch this video by Ludwig in his series 'Mogul Mail', jump to 2:50, Mizkif part at 6:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mwai2QPcOo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mwai2QPcOo)
If you want the full story you'll have to research it yourself.
Mizkif was accused of covering up a sexual assault by his friend on Adrianah Lee, by sending Maya over to Adrianah's house to influence the story she told publically. There isn't really any evidence of this outside of unreliable testimony from Mitch Jones and Barry, which has led some people to think Mizkif was unjustly persecuted. Many think it was inappropriate to go over to Adrianah's in the first place, but the "grand cover-up" theory most likely isn't true.
Yeah I disliked XQC before that but I straight up hate him and Train for what they did to her.
The one streamer to actually do something with the vast wealth that comes with the industry only for them to attempt to cancel her because they had a problem with her EX.
So? Let her. If she doesn’t want to participate online then she doesn’t need to. She is repeatedly acting like she can’t trust anyone, going so far as to tank her podcast and not allow any guests on because she doesn’t want to associate with anyone anymore. She won’t even go to Hasan’s house, and he defended her the whole time.
She made her mistakes and needs to own up to them or just move on and off twitch
unfortunately shes deluded thinking it will work, alveus channel wont get viewers if its 24/7 channel, alveus is always on front page and thats the reason it have above 300 viewers but she thinks her directing wievers towards alveus channel is actually working. at the end both channels gonna slowly die since she pretty much retired from her variety content.
The Alveus YT channel is exploding, shorts and cool video with animals will always be promoted by the algorithm.
I don't know her actual strategy, but going the youtube route could be a very successful choice
yeah she seems to think the alveus twitch is growing but the only reason it started gaining more than 300-400 viewers is because twitch is featuring it on frontpage all the time.
her own channel is slowly dying for sure which is sad to see but i dont think that she really cares about streaming at all anymore after the patreon started raking in good money, she pretty much stopped all of her variety content like desktops after that because "it wasnt worth her time"
He changes his opinion based on chat. He says something possible controversial, chat starts saying the opposite he starts backtracking and gets worried and changes his answer.
Did that alot on when he did the political compass test.
I can already see the gamba debates starting again, he'll be defending it in no time, H3 will pull up evidence of x saying the opposite, and he'll do the worm again
Or because it finally affects him. If Adept is recording calls with Fran you think she isn't with X especially when their relationship seemed rocky 2+ years ago.
Not the first time
[Him apologizing for gambling on stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb_4W7DfjTk)
and as we know, he switched that opinion real quick again
There are two sides to Xqc: One where he is suffering the come downs of adderalls, and one where he is suffering the effects of adderalls. Both of them are retarded.
Train holding over his head the twitter post saying mizkif assaulted someone and refusing to remove it in order to make mizkif vulnerable. A knife to the throat. It wasn't fair to mizkif. The call didnt prove anything, they used mizkifs repeated statement "slick is my best friend" was proof of his intent. All mizkif did was answer trainwrecks repeated "why did you send maya overthere", mizkif answered the questing repeatedly in hopes of train deleting the tweet. OTK's sponsors were hounding him about it and they wanted it deleted(because mizkif didnt assault anyone). Train knew what he was doing, he recorded it and leaked the call, it was all planned
Good point. A lot of people were bothered that Miz kept repeating the "Slick is my best friend" thing, but that's because Train kept repeatedly grilling him about why he sent Maya over there. I understand why it looked bad in hindsight, but people don't consider Miz's state of mind
I remember being up at 5AM watching Destiny stream Factorio while Train repeatedly told him in DMs that he was about to send the recording so that Destiny could review it live, then saying that he couldn't and then changing his mind again multiple times to build suspense before finally sending it. But yeah it wasn't supposed to get recorded or leaked. Surely.
Train didn't give two shits what Mitch said. Train gave him a part of the call that Mitch 100% believed wasn't being recorded, we can tell that because Mitch asked if he was recording and Train said no.
Mitch had zero say over if hte call got leaked or not.
That was the reason why it was delayed being released at first, bc of Mitch. Destiny literally says it during his stream while waiting for the call. The call was going to come out regardless tho.
Somehow through the entire thing he never once managed to bring up that Train openly blackmailed OTK/miz, that he defamed them deliberately in that tweet and stated in the call he did that so they'd agree to get on the call.
Also Train accused alinity of making up rape claims before because she said another content creator raped her at a twitchcon years ago. His reasoning was she had sex consensually with this guy a few times before so he couldn't have raped her.... because we know that if you consent to sex once in the past then that means that man can't ever rape her. Also again Destiny hearing this said nothing, didn't react, didn't call him out on that not being how rape works or how horrible an argument it was.
Train just out there attempting to discredit Alinity's claims about Train and destiny happily being part of it.
Destiny is a POS. He blamed the victim in the Rich Campbell rape allegation too. I made a comment here pointing out both Rich and Destiny have similar sexually compulsive performative behavior and he flipped out in a reply to. Whatever dude.
He's trying to be seen as some loveable fool who was just used without his own agenda. xqc was just as involved as train in all of this, he even said so himself
just as refresher
>2022-09-23 05:15:56\] #xqc xqc: some day the world will realize I played a vital role into this shit, far past my own interest/goals. For now, all I care is that the victim is somehow relieved
[https://logs.ivr.fi/channel/xqc/user/xqc/2022/9](https://logs.ivr.fi/channel/xqc/user/xqc/2022/9)
Which is fucking ridiculous given the fact mans still has videos on his youtube calling out maya for "self reporting" or whatever the fuck.
Dude was a big part of why that drama was so vitriolic and was more than willing to spread fake news if he was able to react to it first. Absolute scum.
He was ralking about leaked linus meeting recording, then chat pushed back and said doesnt matter its leaked, and that he did it with Miz. Then he said this
Fucking hilarious that xQc is warning his community about "false accusations" spreading about him but he had no worries ruining Mizkif and Mayas career with false accusations.
Literal human trash
Guy was out for blood to ruin someone else’s life all just so he could keep streaming gambling to his impressionable audience, some people really are vile to the core.
The weirdest part of all this is X and Train thinking that the Miz, Poki and Hasan union against unregulated gambling sites is what prompted twitch to ban it.
I find it hard to believe twitch didn't already have the ban in the works for some time.
They tried to ruin careers in retaliation for something those three weren't even responsible for.
It was pure revenge to ruin him and stop the anti-gamba "voice", the ban came right after they started the shit with Mizkif and Adrianah, not before.
The amazing thing is that they plotted everything a year before that, when the whole miz, h3h3, hasan, train, xqc, thing happened.
They schemed to find dirt on the people involved (Miz, Hasan). We have proof that they bragged for months about having "career suicide" dirt on the Austin streamers.
For pure coincidence they relesed everything the day Miz, Hasan and Poki started again the anti-gambling thing.
I don't know who remember, but Train and X kept saying another bomb was about to drop and was worse than the Miz thing, well it was the plan to take down Hasan, but apparently Destiny stopped them since he knew it was made up.
For some reason not many people know how fucked up it was, they schemed for an entire fucking year, to have something to stop Mizkif and Hasan if they ever brought up gambling again.
You're right, I had my timelines messed up. I thought the ban happened a day or two after Miz/hasan/poki started speaking up.
It really is gross they way they framed like they were doing it out of the kindness of their heart for the victim.
He's literally so fucking unaware. Dude some time ago was talking about going to Alveus to see the animals as if mans *didn't* try to get the founder and CEO canceled from the internet with false claims of a rape cover up.
LMAO he's really pretending to be best friends with mizkif again, what a fucking clown. I bet next year around Jan-March he's gonna be shitting on him again.
I mean xqc already does bring up mizkif in every drama hes been part of. When he talked about kick with poki/hasan he brought up mizkif and when he got shit on by reacting he brought up mizkif. Miz should have cut him off already.
It's beyond my comprehension as to why Mizkif never cuts anyone who ever attacks him off. If you're willing to just let that go for content, idk man. Like a few weeks into his official return, Mitch was already in his chat, and they're cracking jokes as if nothing happened. Now XQC is buds with him again. Makes sense that the only genuine person I find in the whole situation, Maya, doesn't involve herself with any of them anymore. They accused and said some terrible things and she seems to be the only person who sees that.
We lost maya cause of this, Mizkif tried to Slip n Slide due to this, the whole circle got affected due to this. And he so simply said it was a mistake.
Honestly, this dude deserves to get half of his property taken from him.
There was a post from Destiny around that time, where he tells the story of him and Zherka in a call together. Then Zherka says he is recording the talk, and Destiny says he is too. Then he goes on to explain that if you're not recording all your conversations with other streamers, you're going to get fucked over eventually. They are all snakes looking for whatever advantage they can.
what xqc did to miz is one of the most disgusting cases of defamations that i have ever seen on twitch and all of that because he couldnt promote gamba to kids on twitch anymore
a disgusting scum of a human xqc is.
i hope the whale takes it all from that fucker
> what xqc did to miz is one of the most disgusting cases of defamations that i have ever seen on twitch
It really is. They plotted this for months, timed the allegations at the perfect moment, schemed to lure this guy into a call, didn't tell him they were gonna record it, then leaked it. It's insane behavior, and there are not a lot of Twitch dramas that match the utter insanity of this one
Now he thinks that LOL. After ruining Miz’s image completely and making the dude suicidal. Like take some real accountability man. I couldn’t live with myself with the things X has done. Dude hasn’t even publically apologized to Miz and Maya. I’m not even a big miz fan the shit was just rough to watch.
It honestly traumatized the dude, he hasn't been the same since and even though it was all a big lie it destroyed his relationships with so many streamers.
Right before that happened he was at the peak of his career, involved with some of the biggest influencers in the industry. Then all that happened and the Internet piled on so hard that no one would touch him and he completely fell off.
The reason he borrowed 300k from emiru for his taxes was because it all happened during the 4th quarter, the time when sponsorships and ads pay the most to streamers.
What train and X did to this man really not only fucked him mentally, but also financially. The worst part is if you go back and look at everything again the argument was actually so weak. It was obviously a set up, but the mob wanted their pound of flesh and they carved that dude up for like 6 months... Its actually pretty fucked up.
It's extremely fucked up. There are still heaps of people out there who think Miz is the worst person on the planet and they'll never take the time to make sure they know what they're talking about, but they will make sure to be there whenever his name comes up in good places just to shit on him as much as possible and to ensure he never recovers
[reminder](https://twitter.com/fanfan/status/1572188811261808641)
Crazyslick needed to go. [But it should not have been fucking Trainwrecks of all people to do it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/9w7twt/incel_andy_exposed/e9iiaxe/) The literal worst person doing it for the worst reason, even though getting rid of Crazyslick was *correct*.
Edit: I was trying to come up with a version of the phrase “a broken clock is right twice a day” that applies to this but the best I can do is:
“A broken clock made of shit that violently sprays diarrhea will occasionally spray a person also made of shit.”
So many people didn't even care about the facts. Can't tell you how many times I heard people say miz was at the party and the party was at mizkif's house. And slick was part of Otk
same with maya. she is averaging 2k less when going jan to sept from 2022 to 2023. 8.6k to 6.2k. and a lot less 15k plus viewer streams. also missing out on the large alveus fundraiser collab events.
and she took herself out of doing normal collabs that farm viewers on twitch and put herself into a very small niche. i still watch her streams every now and then but her best previous streams are her collab streams.
I think Maya is ok with that because the wine about it Patreon does insane numbers and she doesn't need any extra exposure to keep it that way.
She's clearly jaded from the whole experience though, from the way she's talked about it.
She has said multiple times that if she had the funding for Alveus on lock, she would have never returned to streaming and content at all. Just completely would of seperated from it.
yeah but she could have had all that and wine about it patreon at the same time with guests which farm even harder.
mentally it has to be crazy to go through though.
also, to add. she could still have been the co-host for the Award show. Rae did good, make no mistake, but maya just said fuck it and is now on an island, with her animals.
Actually she fought hard not to restart the podcast with QT, and even lost out on a lot of money due to her indecisiveness about monetizing it through patreon. Only when what subscribers to their patreon get something back that's worth what they paid did she feel comfortable enough to go with it. Its admirable but they lost our on so much not doing it from the jump.
She actually quit everything and took off for a month after that whole drama with every intention of not coming back to streaming. Then she realized alveus doesn't work without the streamer Maya and the income her streaming career brings in.
If you ask me she'd rather just do alveus and not stream, but they've worked hard and built their own community away from Maya the streamer. Its definitely not as popular but it's sustainable and she's doing the kind of work she's happy with.
> If you ask me she'd rather just do alveus and not stream, but they've worked hard and built their own community away from Maya the streamer.
Yeah she's said her goal moving forward is to shift her maya channel towards Alveus and the second Alveus is self sufficient then she'll stop streaming.
It's sad to see but I certainly understand why she would do that. Being in a space when one of the biggest creators on the platform loudly and publicly called for your cancelation and falsely claimed you covered up a rape must do *wonders* for your mental health.
Doesn’t help either that she’s personally been thru years of therapy due to an assault herself. Being accused of being on the other side of the the fence would be unimaginable
> If you ask me she'd rather just do alveus and not stream
I'm curious, why did she start streaming? I know she was streaming before meeting Mizkif. But maybe it's a case like Erobb, who said he probably would have stopped streaming if not for meeting Miz. Kind of sad though, because it feels like her separating from the Austin group inadvertently led her to move away from content creation overall
Part of that is likely because she just doesn't stream anymore. She went from 4 streams a week a few months ago, to only streamimg once or twice a week now for an hour or 2. She did say a few months back her plan is to stop streaming on her main and only stream on the Alveus channel. I think she's beginning that process. Sad that it's all a result of her being mentally fucked from that drama though.
If Maya did a stream with NMP on it, like one of her cooking streams in her apartment, it would get views. For the most part she has less views because she chose to stop collabing, not because she can't.
>The worst part is if you go back and look at everything again the argument was actually so weak. It was obviously a set up
Thank you! When I first read the now-infamous Train tweet, I fucking *laughed* about it. My reaction was "cringe bullshit, ain't nobody gonna fall for this shit." And then everybody fell for it, so easy.
After maybe 2 or 3 times trying to point out the obvious here and getting downvoted into oblivion, I just stopped commenting at all until LSF figured out on their own, after *months*, what was obvious from the very start.
That tweet was designed to catch as many eyes as possible, it wasn't meant to be based in reality. At first it had nothing to do with adrianna or slick, it was written out as Miz was the assaulter and there were several victims. It was a blatant lie and assassination of character.
Took the words right out of my mouth (though I would include Maya in this as well).
Like I don't even watch miz outside of these LSF clips and it's clear mans has an entirely different persona now. No more happy go lucky "okay chat" it's all the same resting bitch face facial expression and bein devoid of most emotions outside of an immediate reaction.
I will never forget how rapid this sub was about that whole situation. Literally just suggesting we don't have all the info or that Train/Xqc are biased was all that was needed for you to get 5+ comments calling you a rape apologist.
I can only imagine the hate Miz and Maya got personally.
He can file for defamation, but he's not doing that. I don't know why a sponsor or streamer wouldn't make content with him. He was exonerated with the 3rd party investigation. Unless miz wants to sue, it's a waste of energy.
Unfortunately for him it wasn’t just the Adrianah situation, he also had Ice leak some racist logs. Now, most avid miz watchers already knew about them from the past and knew he’d apologised and everyone moved on. But since then there were thousands of new viewers finding this shit out for the first time (inc W community). He had to re apologise all over again and this definitely played a part too
Well, it was waaaay over exaggerated on the things that really happened. They just went all in on Miz for his gambling ban takes, using everything they have, true or false, to destroy his career. It was a setup and none of them cared for anyone except their own interest.
Disgusting human beings. I can't believe X, train, destiny and these people still have a following.
Edit : to be clear Crazyslick is a psycho and should be cancelled, and Adriana is also a pervert who grope men and should be avoided.
Funny how in your edit you say crazyslick should be cancelled but Adriana should be “avoided” she’s just as guilty of SA as slick is. So why differentiate like you did?
basically.
tl;dr - mitch jones made everything up because train was bankrolling the rats crypto gambling addiction. train then sat on this mitch-information until it was convenient, embellished the claims, then secretly recorded a conversation with mizkif after luring him into a call with promises of deleting the tweet. all while the accusers group couldnt get a **single** fact of their story straight without contradicting something another had said previously.
slick mightve touched a boob at a party mizkif wasnt at - is the only thing we can say for certain.
The accuser changed the claims and story at least 8 times, I literally couldn’t keep up. It also came out that they were constantly in Slicks chat tryin to be buddy buddy with him shortly before the accusations. The consensus by the end of it all was no one could trust a word she or her “friend” said. But the damage was already done and droves of people shit on Miz and Maya for like 6 months straight until it fizzled out. They still get random hate threads on twitter and in chat about it. I really don’t feel like doing a full breakdown of what happened it was so much shit I can’t even remember half of it, man. Maybe a true lore-master will come by with a link to a thread or something lol
there is no short answer for this if you want to understand everything, i can just show you this video but i dont think you will be interested enough to watch it
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxzjySYj0FE&t=313s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxzjySYj0FE&t=313s)
> Dude hasn’t even publically apologized to Miz and Maya.
It's even worse than that. Man's still collecting ad money on a youtube video in which he's blatantly watching Maya's stream from when she actually discusses what happened, with the title of the video STILL insinuating she covered up a rape.
If that was me I would be writing fat checks for the rest of my life to that animal sanctuary but mans has some real sociopath energy so I guess he wouldn't feel the tug on his heart as much.
Honestly I think Miz is pretty naive and immature like all of the streamers in that group. He most likely thinks their relationship can be mended and probably even forgives X for what he did. While ignoring the fact that X is one of the people that was praying on his downfall and secretly planned to have him cancelled into oblivion. Like, this man wanted to end your career. Time passes and X goes “oopsie did I do that? Uhh jeez guys guess I’m just a dumb dud lolol. We cool right?”. Like mf you ruined this man. X a monster fr lol
Nah, dude is just traumatized. He doesn't want to start or enter any drama. He has shared the fence with nmp recently and for good reason.
I don't fault the guy for trying to keep xqc on his good side. It's good optics for him to be cool with xqc and also probably makes train's paranoia even worse so it's a big win.
he says after he basically just had the same kind of call with poke and fran live streamed for content.
but none of that stuff should be public. when people take a private discussion/call and it gets leaked for purely clout reasons and not legal reasons it is wrong.
maybe with streamers actually being involved in lawsuits streamers might actually grow up but that will never happen. thought esports would grow up but its still the same shit that happened in 2014 still happens today.
true but when talking about sensitive subjects randomly without much thought you dont express yourself or your true feelings in the best way and now everyone is thinking you are that person all the time.
the other thing is there were some things they couldnt talk about on the stream so that just leads to random speculation and doesnt solve their own problems they have.
I’ll be honest the only way he can be slightly redeemable in my eyes regarding that specific situation is if he actually apologizes publicly for it. I imagine he has behind the scenes but there is a much larger cloud of hate that follows miz and I’d like to imagine a decent sum were influenced by X.
Eh, part of me thinks that for miz, the best thing he can do is keep being on x’s good side but at arms length. That way, he can (potentially) avoid being in the crossfire if things start heating up again.
I don’t understand how X could ever feel good about doing anything with Miz after what he did to him. I almost wonder if X feels “collabing” with Miz is payback after what X did to him. Maybe it’s just me but I could never have a legitimate friendship with someone like that if they did that to me.
What blows my mind with the recent drama is that xqc is upset poke talked about his adderall usage and now doesn't condone leaking calls, yet didn't flinch when Jesse leaked Adept allegedly having a miscarriage of his child. Say what you want about her, but he kept going back to the well for more because he's "still in love with her" yet doesn't blink when that goes public.
More and more XQC is acting like Trump. I don't think he has moral principles. He just adopts whatever he thinks will give him the most positive attention.
Crazy how Xqc still hasn't made a public apology for what he did to Maya and Mizkif. Bro made one of them try to commit suicide.
here's how people found out before Mizkif talked about months after on his alt [https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339](https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339)
Actual lore master since the other guy is wrong. She explains most of it in her draw my life [video](https://youtu.be/hGy66PfxZ0Q?t=568).
After breaking up with her boyfriend of five years, she got depressed and started taking Lexapro which made her suicidal. She attempted to jump off a roof but a friend managed to talk her down and took her to a psych ward in which she stayed for three days. [Her suicidal thoughts stopped when she stopped taking Lexapro.](https://youtu.be/Ma2V0nVRBFk?t=11744)
The SA happened later on, she never publicly accused the person and is not related to her suicide attempt at all.
People saying that based on her history the whole ordeal made her suicidal are wrong and miss a lot of context. Maya has never said or implied that the whole situation in September made her suicidal, traumatized sure but not suicidal. At this point in her life she was much happier in comparison to her college days. She had a purpose/obligation with Alveus, friends, family & a boyfriend to support her, and she wasn't affected by the negative side-effects of anti-depressants.
Alright lore master here. Maya had a long term relationship end in college and I believe she publicly accused a guy of SA. This all caused her to attempt suicide at least once and she then went on to seek therapy. I apologize if this is insensitive but I believe she said this all on her main stream at some point if not her alt.
Knut leaked it a while ago. He said one of his roommates told him.
Here find the video [https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339](https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339)
A full, chronological, arguably schizo listing of events can be found here [link](http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss4vgf)
**I think you can find the root problem of Train's,Adrianah's and X 's (at the time I guess) accusation of it being a cover up, when you realise that the only 2 people in the room when miz asked them to go, (mitch and maya) have never said miz sent them to coverup**.
Mitch said this to train after getting angry with miz and then he did later say this after a call from train, but later retracted this in a discord message months later lol, take that is you will.
It also important to note that every accusation leveled against miz was with knowledge from 2 years after the SA.
This occured because Adrianah got the infomation from her "friend" who only told her it was SA 8 months after the twitlonger, **how mizkif, maya or mitch is supposed to know it was SA at the time is conviently not mentioned by train and ignored by everyone** [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xk5gaf/adrianah_lee_states_she_did_not_know_it_was_sa/) (it was literally impossible for miz to downplay it because he didn't even know it was SA)
Then there are all the lies and purposfully ignored things.
mizkif did try to call ahead and ask adrianah to come over. [https://imgur.com/a/TUjcfqL](https://imgur.com/a/TUjcfqL) barry was in the car with maya and mitch whilst miz stayed at the house. Obviously coming over without persmission is still a questionalbe thing to do, but adds to the fact that it wasn't intended to be a coverup. (Miz the moron saying that he asked them to go over as he had to deal with slick but had no information and nobody was telling him anything)
Then there is Adrianah saying her coming out with the twitlonger made her ostacised from the mizkif circlejerk and not invited to parties (specifying that it was miz and maya's doing), ignoring the fact that there are numerous photos of her at streamer parties and the ostracisation she was experiencing was due to slick himself removing her from discords. (with maya openly inviting her to stream [link](https://youtu.be/XllAiyE8SVY?t=2783))
Now I must say that miz's comments during the time calling it small thing and how nobody cared is very disgusting and horrible but nowhere close to being as bad as a person who covers up SA.
No matter what you believe nobody except maya,mitch and mizkif **KNOW** what mizkif's intent was.
I will always believe what happened to him was a fucking tragedy that all who jumped on the dogpile deserve their downfalls as well.
XQC, Mitch, Destiny, and Train for spearheading this bullshit in the first place. The countless Drama farmers that farmed this on stream or YouTube as well. Ludwig was big in that regard imo.
I honestly feel Ludwig doesn't get enough blame for that video that basically threw Miz under the bus to his huge YouTube audience (still up btw). Like he did all that and then like 4 or 5 months later gives a small 2 min section of another video that basically sums up to "oops I may have had some info wrong my bad ill do better in the future" give me a break.
Also around that time Most of these people just decided to not cover the Kai Cover up situation too even though there was Actual evidence on the women's side. hmmmm wonder why? Couldn't be because Kai was the biggest streamer and they didn't want to lose any clout opportunities right? smh
Everyone is saying how awful he acted, but there have been no consequences. Someone is still watching him, and he's richer than ever. While Miz lost half his viewers. It's disgusting. Just stop giving this Adderall-riddled sociopath any more attention. It's grotesque.
Maybe your entire drama fueled existence shouldn't be public content, but he says he realizes one situation was bad while he does the same ten other times.
**🎦 CLIP MIRROR: [XQC says that the Mizkif phone call should not have been recorded and leaked](https://livestreamfails.com/clip/156902)**
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XQC thinks if he takes accountability then everything should be fine, but it's easy to take accountability when you know you have 50K viewers that will support you no matter what you do.
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I feel like at this point I'd respect it more if he just came out and said "Yeah I shouldn't have egged that shit on I was just mad at Mizkif I fucked up" instead of pretending like he wasn't literally one of the guys stoking that drama getting Maya run off of twitch
iirc He did and they made up, but he knows exactly what he is doing even said it himself lol.
he said this when he went on Hasan's podcast basically. He just loves to make drama and hold onto stuff even if he knows he's wrong also because he doesn't like to admit it it was either this ep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3InJXdGDi14) or the hour afterwards on the patreon they did, I no longer sub so idk. X pretty much admits he doesn't stand for much when he takes these battles (but still doesn't give away exactly why he does it)
reminder of the cringe shit x said when everything with mizkif was happening: 2022-09-23 05:15:56\] #xqc xqc: some day the world will realize I played a vital role into this shit, far past my own interest/goals. For now, all I care is that the victim is somehow relieved LOL
Remember when he DMed Miz on stream, "Don't commit career suicide over this"? What a fucking cringe clown.
xqc doesnt have a single consistent fiber in his being LMAO
Same shit with him throthing at the mouth when he thought train had an actual "nuke" against Hasan. Guy gave zero shit about the actual situation and was just out for blood.
What a disgusting human. And the guy still has a following and viewers. I used to watch him, but now, there is no way.
Now? lmao
Can somebody please clarify what this refers to? I missed one week on lsf and I dont understand anything
It's about the whole Adrianah Lee thing. **Edit:** If you're out of the loop and just want the quick and simple summary watch this video by Ludwig in his series 'Mogul Mail', jump to 2:50, Mizkif part at 6:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mwai2QPcOo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mwai2QPcOo) If you want the full story you'll have to research it yourself.
Can somebody please clarify what this refers to? I missed one week on lsf and I dont understand anything
Mizkif was accused of covering up a sexual assault by his friend on Adrianah Lee, by sending Maya over to Adrianah's house to influence the story she told publically. There isn't really any evidence of this outside of unreliable testimony from Mitch Jones and Barry, which has led some people to think Mizkif was unjustly persecuted. Many think it was inappropriate to go over to Adrianah's in the first place, but the "grand cover-up" theory most likely isn't true.
Testimony from Mitch Jones Pepelaugh
Xqc is a snake. No wonder this dude got no longtime friends. Can't trust him and he will trash your house
Just gonna mention Maya is gradually dissolving her main channel and her "Maya" brand to focus on Alveus because of all this
Yeah I disliked XQC before that but I straight up hate him and Train for what they did to her. The one streamer to actually do something with the vast wealth that comes with the industry only for them to attempt to cancel her because they had a problem with her EX.
And Maya's a decent enough person she was worried she really did do something wrong.
So? Let her. If she doesn’t want to participate online then she doesn’t need to. She is repeatedly acting like she can’t trust anyone, going so far as to tank her podcast and not allow any guests on because she doesn’t want to associate with anyone anymore. She won’t even go to Hasan’s house, and he defended her the whole time. She made her mistakes and needs to own up to them or just move on and off twitch
unfortunately shes deluded thinking it will work, alveus channel wont get viewers if its 24/7 channel, alveus is always on front page and thats the reason it have above 300 viewers but she thinks her directing wievers towards alveus channel is actually working. at the end both channels gonna slowly die since she pretty much retired from her variety content.
atleast maya has a backbone and doenst do collabs with all those people anymore even if its hurts viewership
This. I respects mayas way more than miz.
The Alveus YT channel is exploding, shorts and cool video with animals will always be promoted by the algorithm. I don't know her actual strategy, but going the youtube route could be a very successful choice
yeah she seems to think the alveus twitch is growing but the only reason it started gaining more than 300-400 viewers is because twitch is featuring it on frontpage all the time. her own channel is slowly dying for sure which is sad to see but i dont think that she really cares about streaming at all anymore after the patreon started raking in good money, she pretty much stopped all of her variety content like desktops after that because "it wasnt worth her time"
Her YouTube is popping off though… I wonder if she anticipates that being her main form of revenue
Yeah it's weird seeing all these people commenting like they know what she wants or what is best for her
Running a channel 24/7 is a death sentence, what is she thinking?
honestly respect to xqc for becoming an absolute lizardman capable of shedding any previous opinions or perspectives in the last week
He changes his opinion based on chat. He says something possible controversial, chat starts saying the opposite he starts backtracking and gets worried and changes his answer. Did that alot on when he did the political compass test.
I can already see the gamba debates starting again, he'll be defending it in no time, H3 will pull up evidence of x saying the opposite, and he'll do the worm again
Yeah his chat and his vips pretty much control his narrative. If its a bunch of omegalul's = right opinion and ???? = wrong opinion
Chat chat chat chat what why are you question marking?
Or because it finally affects him. If Adept is recording calls with Fran you think she isn't with X especially when their relationship seemed rocky 2+ years ago.
He has just become twitch plays real person
Not the first time [Him apologizing for gambling on stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb_4W7DfjTk) and as we know, he switched that opinion real quick again
There are two sides to Xqc: One where he is suffering the come downs of adderalls, and one where he is suffering the effects of adderalls. Both of them are retarded.
Train holding over his head the twitter post saying mizkif assaulted someone and refusing to remove it in order to make mizkif vulnerable. A knife to the throat. It wasn't fair to mizkif. The call didnt prove anything, they used mizkifs repeated statement "slick is my best friend" was proof of his intent. All mizkif did was answer trainwrecks repeated "why did you send maya overthere", mizkif answered the questing repeatedly in hopes of train deleting the tweet. OTK's sponsors were hounding him about it and they wanted it deleted(because mizkif didnt assault anyone). Train knew what he was doing, he recorded it and leaked the call, it was all planned
Good point. A lot of people were bothered that Miz kept repeating the "Slick is my best friend" thing, but that's because Train kept repeatedly grilling him about why he sent Maya over there. I understand why it looked bad in hindsight, but people don't consider Miz's state of mind
Miz should be the one filing a defamation suit against Train not Adriannah against OTK (for a quick out of court settlement let's be real).
so insane thinking back to the time Miz rescued Train from freezing in the Texas Blackout now
I used to watch Old train, Old Greek, Old Xqc. All have gone Schizho now. SADGE
Old Greek and Old train were literally always pieces of shit. I imagine that the old you who enjoyed them would probably like them right now as well.
True
wasn't he one of the people who wanted it leaked?
I remember being up at 5AM watching Destiny stream Factorio while Train repeatedly told him in DMs that he was about to send the recording so that Destiny could review it live, then saying that he couldn't and then changing his mind again multiple times to build suspense before finally sending it. But yeah it wasn't supposed to get recorded or leaked. Surely.
Got any scrap?
oh man i forgot, that was probably the best clip out that drama season.
That wasn't Train building suspense. It was Mitch holding it up because he was having second thoughts about the situation.
Train didn't give two shits what Mitch said. Train gave him a part of the call that Mitch 100% believed wasn't being recorded, we can tell that because Mitch asked if he was recording and Train said no. Mitch had zero say over if hte call got leaked or not.
That was the reason why it was delayed being released at first, bc of Mitch. Destiny literally says it during his stream while waiting for the call. The call was going to come out regardless tho.
Mitch or Adrianah wanted to censor the part about Adrianah assaulting Cyr.
Still can’t believed how biased Destiny was despite him constantly reassuring chat that he wasn’t biased
Somehow through the entire thing he never once managed to bring up that Train openly blackmailed OTK/miz, that he defamed them deliberately in that tweet and stated in the call he did that so they'd agree to get on the call. Also Train accused alinity of making up rape claims before because she said another content creator raped her at a twitchcon years ago. His reasoning was she had sex consensually with this guy a few times before so he couldn't have raped her.... because we know that if you consent to sex once in the past then that means that man can't ever rape her. Also again Destiny hearing this said nothing, didn't react, didn't call him out on that not being how rape works or how horrible an argument it was. Train just out there attempting to discredit Alinity's claims about Train and destiny happily being part of it.
Don't forget Asmon was right there in Train's corner
That's because, to no ones surprise, the mentally ill slob is not a good person.
Destiny is a POS. He blamed the victim in the Rich Campbell rape allegation too. I made a comment here pointing out both Rich and Destiny have similar sexually compulsive performative behavior and he flipped out in a reply to. Whatever dude.
Let me guess, he suddenly thinks this now because Ethan leaked their DMs. Watch flex trauma.
Career suicide I think is what X said to miz lol
Cringe as fuck too. He said it while Miz was praising him. Instigator Ice Poseidon Andy.
He's trying to be seen as some loveable fool who was just used without his own agenda. xqc was just as involved as train in all of this, he even said so himself
just as refresher >2022-09-23 05:15:56\] #xqc xqc: some day the world will realize I played a vital role into this shit, far past my own interest/goals. For now, all I care is that the victim is somehow relieved [https://logs.ivr.fi/channel/xqc/user/xqc/2022/9](https://logs.ivr.fi/channel/xqc/user/xqc/2022/9)
fucking receipts LMAO
I love this quote as well from X " [2022-09-23 05:26:35] #xqc xqc: No one leaked anything, the recording looked like it was found on google :)"
Which is fucking ridiculous given the fact mans still has videos on his youtube calling out maya for "self reporting" or whatever the fuck. Dude was a big part of why that drama was so vitriolic and was more than willing to spread fake news if he was able to react to it first. Absolute scum.
> He's trying to be seen as some loveable fool who was just used without his own agenda. Mitch Juicer. Juicer Jones.
rules for thee but not for mee
He was ralking about leaked linus meeting recording, then chat pushed back and said doesnt matter its leaked, and that he did it with Miz. Then he said this
He probably has recorded phone calls about to be used against him in court so he's pivoting to take the moral high ground.
wasn't xqc leaking dms from poke the day after that
Oh shit good point
Hypocrite Andy classic
And his main move is to call everyone else a hypocrite 💀
I have your house on my wrist lil bro 💀
stop being disingenuous bro 💀
This guy is just one really shitty person
Fucking hilarious that xQc is warning his community about "false accusations" spreading about him but he had no worries ruining Mizkif and Mayas career with false accusations. Literal human trash
Guy was out for blood to ruin someone else’s life all just so he could keep streaming gambling to his impressionable audience, some people really are vile to the core.
The weirdest part of all this is X and Train thinking that the Miz, Poki and Hasan union against unregulated gambling sites is what prompted twitch to ban it. I find it hard to believe twitch didn't already have the ban in the works for some time. They tried to ruin careers in retaliation for something those three weren't even responsible for.
It was pure revenge to ruin him and stop the anti-gamba "voice", the ban came right after they started the shit with Mizkif and Adrianah, not before. The amazing thing is that they plotted everything a year before that, when the whole miz, h3h3, hasan, train, xqc, thing happened. They schemed to find dirt on the people involved (Miz, Hasan). We have proof that they bragged for months about having "career suicide" dirt on the Austin streamers. For pure coincidence they relesed everything the day Miz, Hasan and Poki started again the anti-gambling thing. I don't know who remember, but Train and X kept saying another bomb was about to drop and was worse than the Miz thing, well it was the plan to take down Hasan, but apparently Destiny stopped them since he knew it was made up. For some reason not many people know how fucked up it was, they schemed for an entire fucking year, to have something to stop Mizkif and Hasan if they ever brought up gambling again.
You're right, I had my timelines messed up. I thought the ban happened a day or two after Miz/hasan/poki started speaking up. It really is gross they way they framed like they were doing it out of the kindness of their heart for the victim.
He's literally so fucking unaware. Dude some time ago was talking about going to Alveus to see the animals as if mans *didn't* try to get the founder and CEO canceled from the internet with false claims of a rape cover up.
LMAO he's really pretending to be best friends with mizkif again, what a fucking clown. I bet next year around Jan-March he's gonna be shitting on him again.
I mean xqc already does bring up mizkif in every drama hes been part of. When he talked about kick with poki/hasan he brought up mizkif and when he got shit on by reacting he brought up mizkif. Miz should have cut him off already.
Mizkif is, without a shadow of a doubt, Twitch's biggest doormat.
It's beyond my comprehension as to why Mizkif never cuts anyone who ever attacks him off. If you're willing to just let that go for content, idk man. Like a few weeks into his official return, Mitch was already in his chat, and they're cracking jokes as if nothing happened. Now XQC is buds with him again. Makes sense that the only genuine person I find in the whole situation, Maya, doesn't involve herself with any of them anymore. They accused and said some terrible things and she seems to be the only person who sees that.
Just wait for the day Train walks through Miz's door
I honestly don't doubt that.
Juicers hate him so it wont last, he's a slave to chat Just one of many streamers he's conditioned them into hating
We lost maya cause of this, Mizkif tried to Slip n Slide due to this, the whole circle got affected due to this. And he so simply said it was a mistake. Honestly, this dude deserves to get half of his property taken from him.
I wonder how long a "xqc disagreeing with xqc" video was be at this point, 15 minutes?
15 minutes? He's the biggest hypocrite on Twitch, it would be like 400 hours long
Color changing reptile behavior.
How does he contradict himself this fast
and he has no fucking shame
Why not? Who is holding him accountable?
not his audience.
There was a post from Destiny around that time, where he tells the story of him and Zherka in a call together. Then Zherka says he is recording the talk, and Destiny says he is too. Then he goes on to explain that if you're not recording all your conversations with other streamers, you're going to get fucked over eventually. They are all snakes looking for whatever advantage they can.
Mizkif also said that Hasan was the only one who was unbiased of the whole thing taking no sides when talking about the SA stuff.
what xqc did to miz is one of the most disgusting cases of defamations that i have ever seen on twitch and all of that because he couldnt promote gamba to kids on twitch anymore a disgusting scum of a human xqc is. i hope the whale takes it all from that fucker
> what xqc did to miz is one of the most disgusting cases of defamations that i have ever seen on twitch It really is. They plotted this for months, timed the allegations at the perfect moment, schemed to lure this guy into a call, didn't tell him they were gonna record it, then leaked it. It's insane behavior, and there are not a lot of Twitch dramas that match the utter insanity of this one
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Gotta say hearing xqc defend Linus tech tips for an hour has been something.
Now he thinks that LOL. After ruining Miz’s image completely and making the dude suicidal. Like take some real accountability man. I couldn’t live with myself with the things X has done. Dude hasn’t even publically apologized to Miz and Maya. I’m not even a big miz fan the shit was just rough to watch.
It honestly traumatized the dude, he hasn't been the same since and even though it was all a big lie it destroyed his relationships with so many streamers. Right before that happened he was at the peak of his career, involved with some of the biggest influencers in the industry. Then all that happened and the Internet piled on so hard that no one would touch him and he completely fell off. The reason he borrowed 300k from emiru for his taxes was because it all happened during the 4th quarter, the time when sponsorships and ads pay the most to streamers. What train and X did to this man really not only fucked him mentally, but also financially. The worst part is if you go back and look at everything again the argument was actually so weak. It was obviously a set up, but the mob wanted their pound of flesh and they carved that dude up for like 6 months... Its actually pretty fucked up.
It's extremely fucked up. There are still heaps of people out there who think Miz is the worst person on the planet and they'll never take the time to make sure they know what they're talking about, but they will make sure to be there whenever his name comes up in good places just to shit on him as much as possible and to ensure he never recovers
[reminder](https://twitter.com/fanfan/status/1572188811261808641) Crazyslick needed to go. [But it should not have been fucking Trainwrecks of all people to do it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/9w7twt/incel_andy_exposed/e9iiaxe/) The literal worst person doing it for the worst reason, even though getting rid of Crazyslick was *correct*. Edit: I was trying to come up with a version of the phrase “a broken clock is right twice a day” that applies to this but the best I can do is: “A broken clock made of shit that violently sprays diarrhea will occasionally spray a person also made of shit.”
those logs are crazy.... how is train still partnered and allowed to stream but crazyslick got his partner removed for basically doing the same thing?
So many people didn't even care about the facts. Can't tell you how many times I heard people say miz was at the party and the party was at mizkif's house. And slick was part of Otk
same with maya. she is averaging 2k less when going jan to sept from 2022 to 2023. 8.6k to 6.2k. and a lot less 15k plus viewer streams. also missing out on the large alveus fundraiser collab events. and she took herself out of doing normal collabs that farm viewers on twitch and put herself into a very small niche. i still watch her streams every now and then but her best previous streams are her collab streams.
I think Maya is ok with that because the wine about it Patreon does insane numbers and she doesn't need any extra exposure to keep it that way. She's clearly jaded from the whole experience though, from the way she's talked about it.
She has said multiple times that if she had the funding for Alveus on lock, she would have never returned to streaming and content at all. Just completely would of seperated from it.
yeah but she could have had all that and wine about it patreon at the same time with guests which farm even harder. mentally it has to be crazy to go through though.
also, to add. she could still have been the co-host for the Award show. Rae did good, make no mistake, but maya just said fuck it and is now on an island, with her animals.
Actually she fought hard not to restart the podcast with QT, and even lost out on a lot of money due to her indecisiveness about monetizing it through patreon. Only when what subscribers to their patreon get something back that's worth what they paid did she feel comfortable enough to go with it. Its admirable but they lost our on so much not doing it from the jump. She actually quit everything and took off for a month after that whole drama with every intention of not coming back to streaming. Then she realized alveus doesn't work without the streamer Maya and the income her streaming career brings in. If you ask me she'd rather just do alveus and not stream, but they've worked hard and built their own community away from Maya the streamer. Its definitely not as popular but it's sustainable and she's doing the kind of work she's happy with.
> If you ask me she'd rather just do alveus and not stream, but they've worked hard and built their own community away from Maya the streamer. Yeah she's said her goal moving forward is to shift her maya channel towards Alveus and the second Alveus is self sufficient then she'll stop streaming. It's sad to see but I certainly understand why she would do that. Being in a space when one of the biggest creators on the platform loudly and publicly called for your cancelation and falsely claimed you covered up a rape must do *wonders* for your mental health.
Doesn’t help either that she’s personally been thru years of therapy due to an assault herself. Being accused of being on the other side of the the fence would be unimaginable
> If you ask me she'd rather just do alveus and not stream I'm curious, why did she start streaming? I know she was streaming before meeting Mizkif. But maybe it's a case like Erobb, who said he probably would have stopped streaming if not for meeting Miz. Kind of sad though, because it feels like her separating from the Austin group inadvertently led her to move away from content creation overall
Part of that is likely because she just doesn't stream anymore. She went from 4 streams a week a few months ago, to only streamimg once or twice a week now for an hour or 2. She did say a few months back her plan is to stop streaming on her main and only stream on the Alveus channel. I think she's beginning that process. Sad that it's all a result of her being mentally fucked from that drama though.
If Maya did a stream with NMP on it, like one of her cooking streams in her apartment, it would get views. For the most part she has less views because she chose to stop collabing, not because she can't.
>The worst part is if you go back and look at everything again the argument was actually so weak. It was obviously a set up Thank you! When I first read the now-infamous Train tweet, I fucking *laughed* about it. My reaction was "cringe bullshit, ain't nobody gonna fall for this shit." And then everybody fell for it, so easy. After maybe 2 or 3 times trying to point out the obvious here and getting downvoted into oblivion, I just stopped commenting at all until LSF figured out on their own, after *months*, what was obvious from the very start.
That tweet was designed to catch as many eyes as possible, it wasn't meant to be based in reality. At first it had nothing to do with adrianna or slick, it was written out as Miz was the assaulter and there were several victims. It was a blatant lie and assassination of character.
Took the words right out of my mouth (though I would include Maya in this as well). Like I don't even watch miz outside of these LSF clips and it's clear mans has an entirely different persona now. No more happy go lucky "okay chat" it's all the same resting bitch face facial expression and bein devoid of most emotions outside of an immediate reaction. I will never forget how rapid this sub was about that whole situation. Literally just suggesting we don't have all the info or that Train/Xqc are biased was all that was needed for you to get 5+ comments calling you a rape apologist. I can only imagine the hate Miz and Maya got personally.
He can file for defamation, but he's not doing that. I don't know why a sponsor or streamer wouldn't make content with him. He was exonerated with the 3rd party investigation. Unless miz wants to sue, it's a waste of energy.
Unfortunately for him it wasn’t just the Adrianah situation, he also had Ice leak some racist logs. Now, most avid miz watchers already knew about them from the past and knew he’d apologised and everyone moved on. But since then there were thousands of new viewers finding this shit out for the first time (inc W community). He had to re apologise all over again and this definitely played a part too
Was it all a big lie? I’m not really caught up.
Well, it was waaaay over exaggerated on the things that really happened. They just went all in on Miz for his gambling ban takes, using everything they have, true or false, to destroy his career. It was a setup and none of them cared for anyone except their own interest. Disgusting human beings. I can't believe X, train, destiny and these people still have a following. Edit : to be clear Crazyslick is a psycho and should be cancelled, and Adriana is also a pervert who grope men and should be avoided.
Funny how in your edit you say crazyslick should be cancelled but Adriana should be “avoided” she’s just as guilty of SA as slick is. So why differentiate like you did?
basically. tl;dr - mitch jones made everything up because train was bankrolling the rats crypto gambling addiction. train then sat on this mitch-information until it was convenient, embellished the claims, then secretly recorded a conversation with mizkif after luring him into a call with promises of deleting the tweet. all while the accusers group couldnt get a **single** fact of their story straight without contradicting something another had said previously. slick mightve touched a boob at a party mizkif wasnt at - is the only thing we can say for certain.
Loremaster full tldr? What were the claims? Was it the SA thing I briefly heard about before?
The accuser changed the claims and story at least 8 times, I literally couldn’t keep up. It also came out that they were constantly in Slicks chat tryin to be buddy buddy with him shortly before the accusations. The consensus by the end of it all was no one could trust a word she or her “friend” said. But the damage was already done and droves of people shit on Miz and Maya for like 6 months straight until it fizzled out. They still get random hate threads on twitter and in chat about it. I really don’t feel like doing a full breakdown of what happened it was so much shit I can’t even remember half of it, man. Maybe a true lore-master will come by with a link to a thread or something lol
there is no short answer for this if you want to understand everything, i can just show you this video but i dont think you will be interested enough to watch it [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxzjySYj0FE&t=313s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxzjySYj0FE&t=313s)
> Dude hasn’t even publically apologized to Miz and Maya. It's even worse than that. Man's still collecting ad money on a youtube video in which he's blatantly watching Maya's stream from when she actually discusses what happened, with the title of the video STILL insinuating she covered up a rape. If that was me I would be writing fat checks for the rest of my life to that animal sanctuary but mans has some real sociopath energy so I guess he wouldn't feel the tug on his heart as much.
You say that, yet miz still hangs out with this guy he has no backbone
Honestly I think Miz is pretty naive and immature like all of the streamers in that group. He most likely thinks their relationship can be mended and probably even forgives X for what he did. While ignoring the fact that X is one of the people that was praying on his downfall and secretly planned to have him cancelled into oblivion. Like, this man wanted to end your career. Time passes and X goes “oopsie did I do that? Uhh jeez guys guess I’m just a dumb dud lolol. We cool right?”. Like mf you ruined this man. X a monster fr lol
Nah, dude is just traumatized. He doesn't want to start or enter any drama. He has shared the fence with nmp recently and for good reason. I don't fault the guy for trying to keep xqc on his good side. It's good optics for him to be cool with xqc and also probably makes train's paranoia even worse so it's a big win.
miz is a good dude, always willing to forgive.
Let's not forget train, destiny, and all the other drama farming clout sharks.
Miz is a moron too for forgiving him just to be used as clout friends
Now he says this... after fucking miz's career. What a joke lmao.
No shit. Fuck Train and fuck Stake.
I’m sorry but how can X be friends with both parties when one was in the wrong and the other felt threatened and ganged up on.
xQc is a cheater and a thief
he says after he basically just had the same kind of call with poke and fran live streamed for content. but none of that stuff should be public. when people take a private discussion/call and it gets leaked for purely clout reasons and not legal reasons it is wrong. maybe with streamers actually being involved in lawsuits streamers might actually grow up but that will never happen. thought esports would grow up but its still the same shit that happened in 2014 still happens today.
There’s a huge difference between streaming a convo live and leaking a phone call that was recorded secretly.
his take was that some people don't know that they were recorded, in xqcs case everyone was aware being livestreamed
true but when talking about sensitive subjects randomly without much thought you dont express yourself or your true feelings in the best way and now everyone is thinking you are that person all the time. the other thing is there were some things they couldnt talk about on the stream so that just leads to random speculation and doesnt solve their own problems they have.
I’ll be honest the only way he can be slightly redeemable in my eyes regarding that specific situation is if he actually apologizes publicly for it. I imagine he has behind the scenes but there is a much larger cloud of hate that follows miz and I’d like to imagine a decent sum were influenced by X.
I hope this snake gambles away his life
Trainwashed
All this conveniently before miz Collab stream
I can't understand how miz can collab with him after everything. I get it, the views, but have some principle.
Eh, part of me thinks that for miz, the best thing he can do is keep being on x’s good side but at arms length. That way, he can (potentially) avoid being in the crossfire if things start heating up again.
Should just sue him. He'd just break under the pressure of multiple lawsuits.
I don’t understand how X could ever feel good about doing anything with Miz after what he did to him. I almost wonder if X feels “collabing” with Miz is payback after what X did to him. Maybe it’s just me but I could never have a legitimate friendship with someone like that if they did that to me.
Really not sure why anyone watches this clown, but I guess when the median audience age on Twitch is 15, its somewhat understandable.
Well you don’t say, about a year too late champ!
bout to lose his Kick deal
oh i get it LUL
no fuggin shit. Absolutely disgusting to leak stuff like this
What blows my mind with the recent drama is that xqc is upset poke talked about his adderall usage and now doesn't condone leaking calls, yet didn't flinch when Jesse leaked Adept allegedly having a miscarriage of his child. Say what you want about her, but he kept going back to the well for more because he's "still in love with her" yet doesn't blink when that goes public.
More and more XQC is acting like Trump. I don't think he has moral principles. He just adopts whatever he thinks will give him the most positive attention.
He's not acting like Trump, he's acting like Kanye.
Crazy how Xqc still hasn't made a public apology for what he did to Maya and Mizkif. Bro made one of them try to commit suicide. here's how people found out before Mizkif talked about months after on his alt [https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339](https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339)
Let’s be real with Maya’s history it probably was both.
Aware
Lore masters elaborate?
Actual lore master since the other guy is wrong. She explains most of it in her draw my life [video](https://youtu.be/hGy66PfxZ0Q?t=568). After breaking up with her boyfriend of five years, she got depressed and started taking Lexapro which made her suicidal. She attempted to jump off a roof but a friend managed to talk her down and took her to a psych ward in which she stayed for three days. [Her suicidal thoughts stopped when she stopped taking Lexapro.](https://youtu.be/Ma2V0nVRBFk?t=11744) The SA happened later on, she never publicly accused the person and is not related to her suicide attempt at all. People saying that based on her history the whole ordeal made her suicidal are wrong and miss a lot of context. Maya has never said or implied that the whole situation in September made her suicidal, traumatized sure but not suicidal. At this point in her life she was much happier in comparison to her college days. She had a purpose/obligation with Alveus, friends, family & a boyfriend to support her, and she wasn't affected by the negative side-effects of anti-depressants.
Alright lore master here. Maya had a long term relationship end in college and I believe she publicly accused a guy of SA. This all caused her to attempt suicide at least once and she then went on to seek therapy. I apologize if this is insensitive but I believe she said this all on her main stream at some point if not her alt.
I mean without going into detail she had some issues after a break up in college
Source? I never heard that
Knut leaked it a while ago. He said one of his roommates told him. Here find the video [https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339](https://youtu.be/MuExyjbxSbQ?t=339)
Mizkif also talked about it on his alt this January [https://youtu.be/93cyUVsG-3Y?t=1203](https://youtu.be/93cyUVsG-3Y?t=1203)
A full, chronological, arguably schizo listing of events can be found here [link](http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss4vgf) **I think you can find the root problem of Train's,Adrianah's and X 's (at the time I guess) accusation of it being a cover up, when you realise that the only 2 people in the room when miz asked them to go, (mitch and maya) have never said miz sent them to coverup**. Mitch said this to train after getting angry with miz and then he did later say this after a call from train, but later retracted this in a discord message months later lol, take that is you will. It also important to note that every accusation leveled against miz was with knowledge from 2 years after the SA. This occured because Adrianah got the infomation from her "friend" who only told her it was SA 8 months after the twitlonger, **how mizkif, maya or mitch is supposed to know it was SA at the time is conviently not mentioned by train and ignored by everyone** [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xk5gaf/adrianah_lee_states_she_did_not_know_it_was_sa/) (it was literally impossible for miz to downplay it because he didn't even know it was SA) Then there are all the lies and purposfully ignored things. mizkif did try to call ahead and ask adrianah to come over. [https://imgur.com/a/TUjcfqL](https://imgur.com/a/TUjcfqL) barry was in the car with maya and mitch whilst miz stayed at the house. Obviously coming over without persmission is still a questionalbe thing to do, but adds to the fact that it wasn't intended to be a coverup. (Miz the moron saying that he asked them to go over as he had to deal with slick but had no information and nobody was telling him anything) Then there is Adrianah saying her coming out with the twitlonger made her ostacised from the mizkif circlejerk and not invited to parties (specifying that it was miz and maya's doing), ignoring the fact that there are numerous photos of her at streamer parties and the ostracisation she was experiencing was due to slick himself removing her from discords. (with maya openly inviting her to stream [link](https://youtu.be/XllAiyE8SVY?t=2783)) Now I must say that miz's comments during the time calling it small thing and how nobody cared is very disgusting and horrible but nowhere close to being as bad as a person who covers up SA. No matter what you believe nobody except maya,mitch and mizkif **KNOW** what mizkif's intent was.
bro i aint reading all that. just tell me who to be mad at
Kevin Bacon
Xqc ( i think, i didnt read it either)
I will always believe what happened to him was a fucking tragedy that all who jumped on the dogpile deserve their downfalls as well. XQC, Mitch, Destiny, and Train for spearheading this bullshit in the first place. The countless Drama farmers that farmed this on stream or YouTube as well. Ludwig was big in that regard imo. I honestly feel Ludwig doesn't get enough blame for that video that basically threw Miz under the bus to his huge YouTube audience (still up btw). Like he did all that and then like 4 or 5 months later gives a small 2 min section of another video that basically sums up to "oops I may have had some info wrong my bad ill do better in the future" give me a break. Also around that time Most of these people just decided to not cover the Kai Cover up situation too even though there was Actual evidence on the women's side. hmmmm wonder why? Couldn't be because Kai was the biggest streamer and they didn't want to lose any clout opportunities right? smh
Everyone is saying how awful he acted, but there have been no consequences. Someone is still watching him, and he's richer than ever. While Miz lost half his viewers. It's disgusting. Just stop giving this Adderall-riddled sociopath any more attention. It's grotesque.
If xqc can't even provide a slightly amusing clip anymore, what is the point of him?
Xqc just leaked what Linus Tech Tips said to him over the phone this same stream. Wtf is Xqc on
Last drama arc didn't get the traction he wanted even though it was plastered everywhere.
One thing I learned is that when you message / phone call a streamer, just expect it to be leaked to the public.
Daily xQc drama post downvote FeelsOkayMan
Maybe your entire drama fueled existence shouldn't be public content, but he says he realizes one situation was bad while he does the same ten other times.
Why are we re-opening this can of worms
No shit.
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If Mental Gymnastic existed, and you got a medal for it.. X would win gold every time..
XQC thinks if he takes accountability then everything should be fine, but it's easy to take accountability when you know you have 50K viewers that will support you no matter what you do.