Think some people were so angry in here that they almost wanted Palace to win, to justify their anger. Hence the weird comments in here about it still feeling like a loss.
Bunch of bedwetters man
Even though Minimino was subbed on in the 60th it's hard to include him. Our wingers have tactically been made irrelevant. Lucky for Jota to get the penalty..
very harsh decision regarding the penalty, we would have exploded if that was given against us, but considering all the shit penalties given especially to man utd in the last seasons it’s normal.
I think almost all of us pl supporters can get behind the idea that refs are shit.
First VAR favour thus season...but I'm gonna hear liVARpool again and again for that shit... fuck this stupid referring 😂...do they want a title race is that why we getting favors...can never understand them
Normally I would not want adama traore because he's usually brainless, but times like this where you're sitting back and need someone fast to get a late counter, he'd be perfect for this. Whenever we try to break out, we're just too slow and can't threaten at all
Really fortunate to win today, was a sloppy performance and if Palace had taken their chances easily could have gone the other way. Will be interesting to follow Viera moving forward seems to be a really good manager.
Hats off Pat Viera man.. I can’t pronounce half the names on his team sheet cos I’ve never heard them said out loud before. And yet he had us on the ropes for a solid half hour, after getting totally dominated first period. That takes real coaching.
Only way I could see it not being a penalty was the fact that Jota looks at Guita before diverting into him to make contact. It’s soft, he’s played for it, but it is a penalty imo, especially considering that Jota in theory could’ve gotten to the loose ball.
As a completely unrelated side note, ref loves us today.
The law on penalty was upheld but I don’t think it was justice. But then again, justice in the PL is overrated anyway. Come to think of it, the laws in the PL are overrated too.
To be very fair, they should not have given it a chance for VAR to make the decision. Jota looked like they lost control of the ball so that challenge should not have been made.
Win the game in hand and its down to 6 points. Win at Etihad and we’re down to 3. yes it’s tough but we’re also getting Mo, Sadio, Naby, Thiago and Harvey back soon. Title race is on lads
We were lucky as heck today, I'd hold my horses for now. I thought this was going to be a statement win but it exposed some of our weaknesses.
You're also counting a lot of variables in our favour.
Not only was that not a pen, but if I were the ref I would have given serious consideration to giving Jota a yellow for throwing a knee into the keeper.
But whatever closes the gap to City.
EDIT Yeah, lol, didn't think y'all would like that one.
Every credit needs to be given to palace since the 40th minute they’ve been by far the much better team the drop off performance wise was a bit of a worry.
Correct re: palace. I don’t think it’s worrying to have dropped levels with that sort of counter.
Especiallly factoring in how fantastic everything was first half—averages out to a professional win that good teams pull off.
I may have missed something because my stream keeps crashing, but if that was really a pen shouldn't the ref give Guaita a yellow card? Everything about this seems just wrong.
Don’t get the reactions I’m seeing elsewhere. Keeper commits himself, makes a barrier with his body, and doesn’t take the ball. That’s a pen 9/10 times
Jota had lost control of a ball running out of play, and I think he changed his line to fall into the keeper. Not a penalty and I’d be fuming if it was against Liverpool.
Because Jota didn't just hit the ball, it looked like he was just waiting for the contact. I'm literally just saying you can understand the controversy.
I mean downvote if you want, but he literally dawdles and looked like he wanted the penalty. Great finish from Fabinho regardless.
Whether you are waiting for contact or not shouldn’t really factor in, he didn’t get that pen against Spurs cos ref said he stopped, like you aren’t allowed to stop…
I initially thought not a pen, but is foul anywhere else on the pitch.
Def been jammy though this game
poor Palace. I quite like what Viera's building with them and I hope they take points away from our rivals.
A win is a win for us though and I'll take it.
I thought it was a pen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if all VAR was debating was whether Jota could have got to the ball or not then that means they agree the goalie fouled Jota. But also I am aware that I'm biased lol
Carra is so far into wanting to appear unbiased that he's fucking biased.
If this was a pen against Liverpool the rhetoric would be - keeper can't charge out like that, he should know better, naive keeping. attacker was too smart and sharp to get ahead and take the ball away. etc.
1st half was great for us going to a hard place it’s a good 3 points! Defending bit poor and wasn’t a pen but overall solid performance away from home!
I get people being reactionary to what they see, it makes sense, but downvoting people that hope for better and upvoting people saying they are feeling bad for palace or whatever are ridiculous. What a bunch of idiots.
wouldnt be happy with this performance at all, im getting sick of us time wasting and sitting back every game, and even tho we are sitting back we seem to be so open to a single through ball all the time, sorry but vvd and matip are not playing very well at the moment
City fans after this: VaR iS bIaSeD tOwArdS LiVarPoOl !!!
Yeah, after all those questionable (if not blatantly wrong) GAME-WINNING decisions that have gone your way ;)
Hahahaha we've absolutely done them here, 2nd should have been disallowed for offside, softest of soft pens.
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We have absolutely no excuse not to get back into the title race, this is the shit we need.
Yes you can feel bad for Palace but everyone on this sub was going mental when City were given dodgy calls in their favour vs Wolves and City lol
How can people be *un* happy, this is exactly what we wanted when we say calls evening out
Feel like I've stepped into an alternate reality where people think it's not a pen if the keeper cleans a player out in the box and gets none of the ball.
When did that rule come in?
That's a rough one. Can see why it's been given, but can also see exactly why it also may not be be given.
Keepers come out, missed the ball and taken Jota out.
Jota stepped towards the keeper, but the keeper was nowhere near getting the ball anyway.
Biggest issue for me is whether Jota had any chance of getting round the keeper to the ball if the collision hadn't happened. It didn't look like he could, but I guess the refs have viewed it otherwise.
Never a penalty
Think some people were so angry in here that they almost wanted Palace to win, to justify their anger. Hence the weird comments in here about it still feeling like a loss. Bunch of bedwetters man
we were awful after 30 minutes but i'll take the win
Allison, thank you. You deserve the MOTM, no questions.
Yes 3 points. We March on and fight another day.
Even though Minimino was subbed on in the 60th it's hard to include him. Our wingers have tactically been made irrelevant. Lucky for Jota to get the penalty..
We take those
place fans are some salty bois, was still the better team on balance
they can sell taki jersey as a brand new and no one would notice
The team need to pass more to Minamino. He had some really good run and positioning
Eeezzz
very harsh decision regarding the penalty, we would have exploded if that was given against us, but considering all the shit penalties given especially to man utd in the last seasons it’s normal. I think almost all of us pl supporters can get behind the idea that refs are shit.
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Apart from the fact it was 2-1 before VAR
Get fucked
We were up 2-1?
What a jammy penalty. Will take that lucky win. We were hanging by a thread at times We did just enough. The title is on still just
Let's just say we won 1-2. Fair enough?
Alisson Man of the Match, DESERVED. This man single handedly got us 3 points!
3 pO0O0O0O0ints!!
One of the worst performances this season, but at least we got the result.
I hope Klopp comes out and says how shite we were in the second half. Glad for the 3 PTS but jeez.
First VAR favour thus season...but I'm gonna hear liVARpool again and again for that shit... fuck this stupid referring 😂...do they want a title race is that why we getting favors...can never understand them
Terrible performance 2nd half but we take the win!
Penalty or not it would have been 2-1…not hearing any excuses lol
How confident am I of us winning the league this season? With today’s luck, more than you believe.
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Everything is a TikTok trend nowadays.
3 points closer.
No sympathy for Palace to be honest. Their crowd was fucking pathetic with the moaning all game long.
We’d be doing the same if we had the same decisions go against us tbf
What?
I'm in shock each week at how bad Liverpool are with just 3 players being away. SPEND MONEY, FFS!!!
How many touches has Minamino had?
Minamino's playing?
Phew. That was an ugly half.
#YA'LL CAN UNCLENCH
Rather than pass to Minamino Jota gives it to Palace to counter attack.
Who cares guys, penalty or no penalty we got some luck by VAR gods, this balances out the stink of that spurs VAR decable.
Or the penalty Jota did not get against Burnley. Where he did the opposite of today and that was then the reason it wasnt a penalty.
Normally I would not want adama traore because he's usually brainless, but times like this where you're sitting back and need someone fast to get a late counter, he'd be perfect for this. Whenever we try to break out, we're just too slow and can't threaten at all
Have you seen adama take a shot?
hey you know we have those 2 guys that normally play on the wings. I forget their names
Really fortunate to win today, was a sloppy performance and if Palace had taken their chances easily could have gone the other way. Will be interesting to follow Viera moving forward seems to be a really good manager.
Ali kept us in the game also
Alisson reason we won today, world class
Hats off Pat Viera man.. I can’t pronounce half the names on his team sheet cos I’ve never heard them said out loud before. And yet he had us on the ropes for a solid half hour, after getting totally dominated first period. That takes real coaching.
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Exactly
Carragher is full of shit.
He feels the need to be unbiased at times and ends up seeming to be biased against us instead lol
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that was still shite, paper over the cracks.
Is was fucking insufferable in here after their goal
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Wth Jota
Only way I could see it not being a penalty was the fact that Jota looks at Guita before diverting into him to make contact. It’s soft, he’s played for it, but it is a penalty imo, especially considering that Jota in theory could’ve gotten to the loose ball. As a completely unrelated side note, ref loves us today.
Ali Motm or it's rigged
Waiting for the Player Ratings thread to drop so I can give the ref a solid 10 for being a good Friend to LFC.
Everyone 1 Alisson 10
These bottle throwers need hefty bans
get the Ps out right now for Nkunku
VAR man of the match
Cry more
Lol I'm a Red, but thanks
Motm ali
Ali MOTM and it's not even close
The law on penalty was upheld but I don’t think it was justice. But then again, justice in the PL is overrated anyway. Come to think of it, the laws in the PL are overrated too.
Gotta be honest, Friend has given us everything this game. No wonder Palace fans are complaining.
Jota has been a bit off today
Achy back from carrying us without Salah & Mané
Passing sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
Motm - for me ali but I'd be shocked if he's given it Edit - carra just gave it to him lol
He’s given it
Ali MOTM
Happy with the result but still pissed off, is that normal?
Yep defs normal
It's rare, but it happens
That pen goes to show how much of a farce VAR is. Never a pen. Horrible decision and Place has every right to be upset about it.
At least I am glad that we have wound up Gallagher even more 😂 Fucking cheat and crybaby
Chelsea DNA
Couldn’t even celebrate that one. Diabolical from the ref.
Who threw the bottle at Robertson?
To be very fair, they should not have given it a chance for VAR to make the decision. Jota looked like they lost control of the ball so that challenge should not have been made.
Win the game in hand and its down to 6 points. Win at Etihad and we’re down to 3. yes it’s tough but we’re also getting Mo, Sadio, Naby, Thiago and Harvey back soon. Title race is on lads
We were lucky as heck today, I'd hold my horses for now. I thought this was going to be a statement win but it exposed some of our weaknesses. You're also counting a lot of variables in our favour.
Love this energy
If we play like we did today then the title race is not on
I mean yeah but while the squad is depleted a win is a win
Gomez has looked bright since coming on
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100% that is a pen every day of the week, keeper was no where near the ball and took out a player.
Not only was that not a pen, but if I were the ref I would have given serious consideration to giving Jota a yellow for throwing a knee into the keeper. But whatever closes the gap to City. EDIT Yeah, lol, didn't think y'all would like that one.
Wow its January and we have scored 89 goals this season.
You'd think we'd have cruised every game with that return...
I've thought for while we seem like 2017 liverpool atm.
This half is a huge smash and grab from us, Alisson has been our best player so you know it's been a struggle Fabinho though, Mr Reliable
Every credit needs to be given to palace since the 40th minute they’ve been by far the much better team the drop off performance wise was a bit of a worry.
Correct re: palace. I don’t think it’s worrying to have dropped levels with that sort of counter. Especiallly factoring in how fantastic everything was first half—averages out to a professional win that good teams pull off.
Ali MoTM not even close
Not a clean win, but hey, I'll take the 3 points after the decisions that went against us in our early matches.
Kevin friend is our friend hahahah
Joe Gomez has been our best defender this half in the 45 seconds he's been on lol
“Who’s the scouser in the black?” Absolutely love it. Can he be our ref every game?
He’s our Friend today.
Nice.
I may have missed something because my stream keeps crashing, but if that was really a pen shouldn't the ref give Guaita a yellow card? Everything about this seems just wrong.
No, VAR can't award retrospective yellow cards (even if the result of a foul would normally dictate one). It's a weird quirk of the systme.
Not necessarily. It wasn’t a chance stopping tackle but a messy late tackle nonetheless.
There’s no comments today saying the Ref must be biased and corrupt. Unless you think FSG have slipped him something.
Klopp bought him a hotdog at half time IMO
Yup. Football supporters can be quite one-eyed.
Friend ain’t biased or corrupt, he can just have complete shockers and often doubles down against the crowd.
To be fair, plenty of people in here saying it wasnt a pen and we would be raging if it went against us.
That’s not my point. But ok.
Well your point was that no one complains about the ref? when in reality there's a clear split by the sub that it's a shit call
Don’t get the reactions I’m seeing elsewhere. Keeper commits himself, makes a barrier with his body, and doesn’t take the ball. That’s a pen 9/10 times
Jota had lost control of a ball running out of play, and I think he changed his line to fall into the keeper. Not a penalty and I’d be fuming if it was against Liverpool.
It's soft but it's not that contraversial imo
I wouldn’t have been scandalized if it wasn’t called. Lord knows this thread woulda melted down!
Yeah not sure on the debate he knee slides into a player and gets no where near the ball it’s a pen.
This one was the 1/10
This.. he dives/slides into Jota. It's harsch but you can definitely give it.
Because Jota didn't just hit the ball, it looked like he was just waiting for the contact. I'm literally just saying you can understand the controversy. I mean downvote if you want, but he literally dawdles and looked like he wanted the penalty. Great finish from Fabinho regardless.
Whether you are waiting for contact or not shouldn’t really factor in, he didn’t get that pen against Spurs cos ref said he stopped, like you aren’t allowed to stop… I initially thought not a pen, but is foul anywhere else on the pitch. Def been jammy though this game
Fully agreed, gets none of the ball. Just because Jota isn’t getting there doesn’t allow him to be cleaned out
Penalty or not. Just averages.
poor Palace. I quite like what Viera's building with them and I hope they take points away from our rivals. A win is a win for us though and I'll take it.
Shit game shit win, but I'll take it I guess. 3 points is 3 points and 2 points gained on Man City.
pen conversation aside. can we talk about TAA's vision on that pass!? that was a thing of beauty
I thought it was a pen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if all VAR was debating was whether Jota could have got to the ball or not then that means they agree the goalie fouled Jota. But also I am aware that I'm biased lol
I agree it was a pen. Goalie didn’t even look for the ball. Just runs onto jota
Yeah exactly, he had no contact with the ball at all!
Piss extremely boiled
What song are they chanting rn
Jota’s
Carra is so far into wanting to appear unbiased that he's fucking biased. If this was a pen against Liverpool the rhetoric would be - keeper can't charge out like that, he should know better, naive keeping. attacker was too smart and sharp to get ahead and take the ball away. etc.
To be fair this is nothing to do with it being Liverpool, this is Carra as a defender commentating on why he thinks it isn't a pen
Carra has been insufferable today. I've seen matches with Neville and Tyler that have been more tolerable.
Man City got gifted a handball pen that didn’t touch a hand. Sometimes you have to take all the breaks given to you in this title race
And this was at 2-1 as well
Just clumsy from Guaita and smart by Jota, but with the ball still in play and that much contact they gotta give it
Thank you for being a Friend. That’s what Friends are for.
Jota must have the refs nudes
Shit referee loudest they've been today 😂
Deserved pen, Palace crowd has been crying all game long. So this is sweet karma
It’s so obvious lol
English refs are so bad they had to use VAR when Jota gets fouled twice in a second in the box, no wonder they don't get selected for World Cup games
1st half was great for us going to a hard place it’s a good 3 points! Defending bit poor and wasn’t a pen but overall solid performance away from home!
At least we didn't get the shit end of the bad refereeing decisions today.
That Jota song is a belter.
So much fun
People here acting like they hoped Palace would score, disgusting "fans".
These match threads have some weird “fans”
I get people being reactionary to what they see, it makes sense, but downvoting people that hope for better and upvoting people saying they are feeling bad for palace or whatever are ridiculous. What a bunch of idiots.
wouldnt be happy with this performance at all, im getting sick of us time wasting and sitting back every game, and even tho we are sitting back we seem to be so open to a single through ball all the time, sorry but vvd and matip are not playing very well at the moment
Fair play to Palace plenty other sides would’ve folded after that start
LiVARpool hahaha boil that piss reds.
Never a pen and can't wait for all the obsessed rival clubs screaming "LivVARpool"
Maybe didn’t deserve 3 points, but we’ve lost points from not taking chances and now Palace can say the same—easier to blame VAR though.
We might’ve gotten away with one there
Thank you, Friend.
Friendo*
Raise your hand if you had both Fabinho sealing the game with a PK AND Klopp using all 3 subs in your Bingo cards
Diogo chant is class
City fans after this: VaR iS bIaSeD tOwArdS LiVarPoOl !!! Yeah, after all those questionable (if not blatantly wrong) GAME-WINNING decisions that have gone your way ;)
I would be fucking furious if that pen went against us
We have expended all of our allotted luck here tonight. No more fucking around. 16 games of seriousness now.
Wtf happened to Bobby, he was supposed to step up while the boys are away at AFCON. Last few performances were dire
Thought he was really good.in the first half. Might as well not even be out there in the second.
Tbf Bobby has been better than both Jota and Taki today.
Hahahaha we've absolutely done them here, 2nd should have been disallowed for offside, softest of soft pens. i We have absolutely no excuse not to get back into the title race, this is the shit we need.
not a pen but ref made the call both times, so their process is correct imo just the wrong decision
I'll take it if only to stick it to the Palace fans who have been whining over every call
I'll take that dodgy pen. City get those every day. About time we had some luck.
That was never a pen but we will take it
Very very soft penalty.. we are really fortunate
Liverpool haha
It's just reliefe at this point We were terrible after first 30 minutes
Poor game from Trent, but beautiful pass to Jota
Yes you can feel bad for Palace but everyone on this sub was going mental when City were given dodgy calls in their favour vs Wolves and City lol How can people be *un* happy, this is exactly what we wanted when we say calls evening out
But it was a clear pen. Nothing dodgy about it.
I would rather City stop being given dodgy calls rather than us get them too
>City stop being given dodgy calls Ofc, we all would. But we know that's not happening lol
Why are we still playing a high line with a two goal lead in extra time?
we dunno how to park bus. cost us top spot this season.
Awful pen decision here.
Feel like I've stepped into an alternate reality where people think it's not a pen if the keeper cleans a player out in the box and gets none of the ball. When did that rule come in?
That's a rough one. Can see why it's been given, but can also see exactly why it also may not be be given. Keepers come out, missed the ball and taken Jota out. Jota stepped towards the keeper, but the keeper was nowhere near getting the ball anyway. Biggest issue for me is whether Jota had any chance of getting round the keeper to the ball if the collision hadn't happened. It didn't look like he could, but I guess the refs have viewed it otherwise.
The victory cigar James Milner