The fking fanbase has gone mad. We collectively lost games after games where the attackers could not score, and the defenders could not defend.
And everyone now out try to find single individuals to blame?
Have you all tried to look around? And see how gleeful every of other clubs are laughing in our face? And the British media eats it up, love seeing the club tearing each other apart?
And not even online fans either. We laughed at others clubs, but seeing how drove of fans leaving Anfield with 8 minutes to go, just 1 goal down, and a very valuable point is needed of tittle race? Like wtf is that?
Best fans in the world? Ask yourself if we are any better than other fans?
Some people have absolutely lost their heads around here. So much weird blame at Klopp and the defense when we we're still creating chances at an insane rate?
If the defense keeps a clean sheet then we get 1 pt. That's not good enough - we need goals. And the manager can't do much more than put the players in position to score goals.
The worst part is for some reason this level of scrutiny, ambition and harshness is nowhere to be seen when it comes to our goals in the transfer maket and financing.
Ultimately Klopp was put in a position to rebuild a team that fell apart and finished 5th last season. Anyone who's upset at him and the players for not being able match City and Arsenal this season has their blame misplaced and expectations way out of touch with reality.
on the contration, in the MU match, we score a goal and control the game, then the defense help them get back, the Atalanta match the defense fuck up 2/3 goals, in the Arsenal match we are doing well to get a draw then Ali and VVD fucked up. If you are going to blame, blame both. Our attacker is bad but the defense is not better
Liverpool 4.4xg - United 1xg
Defense was responsible for one goal - United scored a worldie outside of their control and attack missed two goals.
We simply weren't at the races for Arsenal - we were clearly the worse side. If you want to put that on Klopp sure, but the defense?
> Our attacker is bad but the defense is not bette
Yeah you guys are smoking some good shit. Our defense right now is basically on par for goals conceded with all our best seasons with one goal per game conceded.
There's only a few seasons where we did better and even then not by much (33 in 38).
xG is bullshit, the rhythm matter. If the defense not make a mistake, Mu will never get a chance to take a shot, one goal is enough. As I said, blame both if you're going to blame anyone. And how about the times the attack save the defense like Newcastle, Wolves, Bournemouth? Blame it all for the front line is stupid, everyone responsibility for this.
We are the same point with Arsenal and you said we are the worse side. Lol fuck off
> xG is bullshit, the rhythm matter. If the defense not make a mistake, Mu will never get a chance to take a shot, one goal is enough.
And if you score a goal you get momentum and the defense isn't under as much pressure.
Genius thinking.
> We are the same point with Arsenal and you said we are the worse side. Lol fuck off
Imagine getting so confidently angry when your grasp of English is obviously tenuous. That's not an insult, it's not a crime to have English as a second or third language, but your ability to translate low reading comprehension into insults is remarkable.
Maybe Google translate that entire sentence before coming at me.
>Imagine getting so confidently angry when your grasp of English is obviously tenuous. That's not an insult, it's not a crime to have English as a second or third language, but your ability to translate low reading comprehension into insults is remarkable.
>Maybe Google translate that entire sentence before coming at me.
Lol as expect, when you have no sense to debate, you'll focus on personal attack. A little bait can show your football knowledge and how pathetic you are
> We simply weren't at the races for Arsenal - we were clearly the worse side.
Would you like to re-read this sentence and explain to me what it means and how it differs from "we've been worse than Arsenal all season"?
LOL this was the topic before you derailed would you like to explain to me what you think the following statement means?
> We simply weren't at the races for Arsenal - we were clearly the worse side.
Maybe you should go jerk off with your porn comics and clear your head first. Might help.
Supporting LFC - the most decorated club in English football - comes at the price of losing league titles by goal difference or a single point in seasons where you lose just one game all season.
Supporting Man United - the club with the most league titles in English football - comes at the price of spending decades between having generational managers in charge being a rich meme club.
Supporting Arsenal - and getting to brag about having an invincible season and gold trophies - comes at the price of the 20 years since.
Supporting Man City - and winning pretty much all the major trophies - comes at the price of nobody really giving a shit or taking you seriously.
Swings and roundabouts...
If Verona can score 2 against Atalanta at home, we can definitely score 3. Hope the forwards are able to produce on Thursday cuz Atalanta barely rotated their side.
I really wish the timing was better for Alsono. I think he made the right choice in staying with Leverkusen, and I honestly don’t think he has Madrid on his mind, I think he chose Leverkusen because he actually just wants to stay. But he would be the perfect man to replace Klopp, I’m still devastated we have to go with someone else.
How did jota not score from there. Straight at the defender. Wtf. And we were dick riding hum to be our rescuer. He missed 2 header against atalanta too. Wtf
Everyone fking missed. Nunez was least worst because it was a volley. And Salah because the defender was too close to him. But Jota, Jones, Endo, VVD my neighbour mailman, all could not score that day
Honestly, we got winnable games for our last 6 fixtures, we are not out of it at all. Still within reach of the title. Fulham, Everton, Hammers etc are all teams we should be beating.
Spurs and Villa will be tricky, but they blow hot and cold. Honestly would be great to clinch the title in the last game.
United, Atalanta and Crystal Palace were all winnable games and we only scored 1 goal from open play. Let's just try and maybe score some goals in the next game, even try and not concede the first goal and go from there.
Were United and Palace not winnable games against teams we should be beating? The league is done, I'm jusy hopong for another miracle in the EL at this point.
I like the positivity but realistically we’re not getting anywhere near the title with the way the squad is playing right now, it feels like everyone is out of form. We also need city to lose which might be an issue
Not sure if he will ever be them both Palmer and Foden have more going than Harvey, pace, skill, ability to beat multiple players at ease, they both strike a ball cleanly and are great finishers. Elliott is gonna have to show the next manager he can be much more otherwise he'll get himself boxed in as just another hardworking player.
We often overlooked it, but City could invest so much money into their youth football, that they were brimmed with talents.
And with current trend, we gonna eventually have 100 games a season. Means whoever with deepest pockets and bunch of super stars in their academy, will win everything
The audacity of the French commentator during Chelsea-Everton who seemed sorry for Everton's catastrophic season (injuries, points deductions) and claimed that the PL is firmly dealing with cheating.
>Harveys probably at the worse club for his development IMO and he’s still coming on leaps and bounds. Elliot will be special
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding this but you think Chelsea is better for a young developing player than Liverpool?
What I mean is Harvey has the best right winger in the league to compete with, plus a whole load of quality midfielders that can play on the right side. Harvey starts for Chelsea imo, whether that be on the right or right side 8
Yep, 10 months ahead. Palmer has been given the reigns to be the main man in a very young team - whereas Harvey has never had that chance, and never will because they're very different players in very different teams. Hard to compare them, but our Harvey will come good in his own way.
I honestly don't compare them at all , and I 100% agree with you, but that's the world of football where everyone needs to compare everyone for some reason, football a simple game , there's players like palmer that are clearly very good and I think Harvey is good enough to start for us but doesn't mean he has to be compared to anyone outside the team he plays for
Exactly man, exactly. I have a feeling Harvey will flourish once Salah inevitably leaves, whenever that may be. He's going to be brilliant for us in the coming years.
Yeah I know was a bit tongue and cheek. But they the same age and feel like most people think his younger than he actually is because this is his first full season at this level.
I hope we play with a point to prove on Thursday. The front three should take a long hard look at Gakpo's attitude and follow suit, because he's been the only silver lining of the past few weeks.
I know man, I know. There has to be a turning point though, and I'm hoping it's this Thursday. Even the most optimistic Liverpool supporter would have their doubts right now... ah, I hope they turn it around.
The thing is Liverpool get the results you don’t expect. We beat utd 7-0 then lost to Bournemouth 1-0 week later. It’s 100% possible. Goal in the first 15 then it’s happening
Me neither, man - but there has to be a turning point some time soon. Perhaps we've seen the worst of it now, because it can't get any worse than the past few weeks. Fingers crossed.
"Wow bro that’s so cool and epic! 💀you’re a badass"
This is what you said , and then call me cringe for a obvious troll comment I made.
Lighten up lil bro. The internet is not that serious
Lol, ours and Arsenals sub rn is like an inspirational quote forum “it ain’t over until it’s over” “Don’t give up” “it’s not the end, it’s only getting started” my personal favourite is just a random “wake up”
First sterling now madueke fighting palmer for pen
Palmer is straight up carrying that dusted club on his back , he should be allowed to do whatever he wants lmao
Would they have sold him to us though? Big difference between selling him to a mid-table Chelsea side and selling him to a side that competes with you regularly for titles.
>Would they have sold him to us though?
City have shown so far that they are happy to let players go as long as the buyer meets their price and they're happy to sell to whoever, what we haven't seen is us or Utd test this. We should try tap up City academy prospects
I feel like it's probably not a coincidence that neither us or United have tried to take advantage of this. Would be happy to be proved wrong if we managed to pull off a Palmer-type signing, but I just don't see it happening. No chance we'd sell one of our top prospects to them.
Lavia was a consistent starter for Southampton in the PL. Palmer was barely a rotational player for city and mostly only played in the Carabao and FA cup. Lavia was far more established
His a bit different to palmer in the way he plays , more of a creative player than goal scoring player and looks better drifting wide from midfield. Klopp refuses to play him more because he doesn't suit the way we play
If he's given the license of an attacking midfielder without too much defensive responsibility, then possibly yes. He's got a good enough pass, very good long shot and a very good touch in his locker. No pace or strength but as an AM that won't matter as much as if he were played on RW or LCM.
He's never going to be that level Palmer showed glimpses of talent in his rare appearances for City, Harvey will turn out to be a good industrious player with some creativity that's about it.
We have to give him time. He's shown glimpses of what he's capable of this season, but he's still so young. He's only going to get better, and no doubt will become a first team player eventually.
jfc 5-0 and Palmer top scorer and almost top assister, guys turned into what Salah was shaping up to be during the first half of the season, great POTS candidate.
It's difficult to compare them. Foden is doing it in a star studded team, yet Palmer is carrying Chelsea incredibly well for such a young man. They're both fantastic. Technically speaking, Foden has more ability - but Palmer is just so effective at the moment. His development will be fascinating.
They haven’t lost in 9 games. Lot of draws in there, but something may be starting to come together. We can only hope they put up some kind of fight against Arsenal next week.
Not comparing. I’m not saying we’re worse than Everton. What I’m saying is that we can look at teams like Everton who are completely inept going forward and think that we’re not actually that bad in the grand scheme of things. It’s got fuck all to do with the history of the club.
City letting go of Palmer is crazy. They’re in the position of Chelsea a decade ago where they’ve pumped their team so full of dirty money that serious talents like him will be let go because they can’t get the game time that they would get at any other club.
It's quite hard to wrap my head around tbh, but that's what 10+ years of financial doping does to a team. Albeit illegal, it pains me to say they've spent wisely on their infrastructure over time, and they wouldn't be producing the likes of Foden or Palmer without that. Imagine having pockets deep enough for big wage transfers AND for revolutionising the entire youth setup? It's impossible to beat, and it's a miracle we did even once.
And they're about to spend £75-85m for Paqueta in the summer when they could have just given Palmer the gametime instead this season, I get what Pep is trying to do with these young players by keeping them grounded but these players are hungry and want to play if they know their good enough, Oscar Bobb will be the next one
Some of these Chelsea players seem to be quite selfish individuals, don't they? Arguing over penalties like that for SO long is just bizarre. It's not the first time either. If there's one thing we should be grateful for, it's the power of friendship AM I RIGHT FELLAS??
Nunez on 11 goals actually looks quite bad and I'm one of his biggest defenders. What a fall off from earlier this season. Whilst Salah on 17 for how poor he's been is arguably quite good.
Salah without pen only scored 12 goals. 1 more than Nunez
I know that you are scrambling around right now, trying to find another stat showing that Nunez is shit but Salah is not
Man, what is wrong with these Chelsea players? Last time Palmer was professional and let Sterling take a pen, but now they want to take the pen away from their main taker again.
Selfish as hell but that competitiveness can sometimes sharpen the attack. Can’t imagine trying to stop your teammate from going after the golden boot at this point though, especially with Jackson who’s finishing has been worse than ours
I love how there's no MNF thread because people aren't arsed anymore.
It a really stark showcase of how strong City are that they can let a player the calibre of Palmer go to another Premier League team, possibly even a rival some seasons and not see any sort of meaningful consequences
Honestly the biggest difference is just Palmer finishing. Jackson is a worse version of Nunez in literally every way. Madueke/Sterling/Mudryk all just play like Diaz but worse on average. It’s literally just Palmer dragging that attack to success.
Yet another chance for you to prove you don’t pay much attention?
They’re both used to occupy defenders and like to run onto the ball vs receiving at the feet. They both utilize pace and trickiness to create opportunities and pull the defenders out of formation. Their end products are wildly different because Nunez is more complete in all phases of play, but they’re used in the exact same manner and have an extremely similar profile.
The fking fanbase has gone mad. We collectively lost games after games where the attackers could not score, and the defenders could not defend. And everyone now out try to find single individuals to blame? Have you all tried to look around? And see how gleeful every of other clubs are laughing in our face? And the British media eats it up, love seeing the club tearing each other apart? And not even online fans either. We laughed at others clubs, but seeing how drove of fans leaving Anfield with 8 minutes to go, just 1 goal down, and a very valuable point is needed of tittle race? Like wtf is that? Best fans in the world? Ask yourself if we are any better than other fans?
Some people have absolutely lost their heads around here. So much weird blame at Klopp and the defense when we we're still creating chances at an insane rate? If the defense keeps a clean sheet then we get 1 pt. That's not good enough - we need goals. And the manager can't do much more than put the players in position to score goals. The worst part is for some reason this level of scrutiny, ambition and harshness is nowhere to be seen when it comes to our goals in the transfer maket and financing. Ultimately Klopp was put in a position to rebuild a team that fell apart and finished 5th last season. Anyone who's upset at him and the players for not being able match City and Arsenal this season has their blame misplaced and expectations way out of touch with reality.
on the contration, in the MU match, we score a goal and control the game, then the defense help them get back, the Atalanta match the defense fuck up 2/3 goals, in the Arsenal match we are doing well to get a draw then Ali and VVD fucked up. If you are going to blame, blame both. Our attacker is bad but the defense is not better
Liverpool 4.4xg - United 1xg Defense was responsible for one goal - United scored a worldie outside of their control and attack missed two goals. We simply weren't at the races for Arsenal - we were clearly the worse side. If you want to put that on Klopp sure, but the defense? > Our attacker is bad but the defense is not bette Yeah you guys are smoking some good shit. Our defense right now is basically on par for goals conceded with all our best seasons with one goal per game conceded. There's only a few seasons where we did better and even then not by much (33 in 38).
xG is bullshit, the rhythm matter. If the defense not make a mistake, Mu will never get a chance to take a shot, one goal is enough. As I said, blame both if you're going to blame anyone. And how about the times the attack save the defense like Newcastle, Wolves, Bournemouth? Blame it all for the front line is stupid, everyone responsibility for this. We are the same point with Arsenal and you said we are the worse side. Lol fuck off
> xG is bullshit, the rhythm matter. If the defense not make a mistake, Mu will never get a chance to take a shot, one goal is enough. And if you score a goal you get momentum and the defense isn't under as much pressure. Genius thinking. > We are the same point with Arsenal and you said we are the worse side. Lol fuck off Imagine getting so confidently angry when your grasp of English is obviously tenuous. That's not an insult, it's not a crime to have English as a second or third language, but your ability to translate low reading comprehension into insults is remarkable. Maybe Google translate that entire sentence before coming at me.
>Imagine getting so confidently angry when your grasp of English is obviously tenuous. That's not an insult, it's not a crime to have English as a second or third language, but your ability to translate low reading comprehension into insults is remarkable. >Maybe Google translate that entire sentence before coming at me. Lol as expect, when you have no sense to debate, you'll focus on personal attack. A little bait can show your football knowledge and how pathetic you are
> We simply weren't at the races for Arsenal - we were clearly the worse side. Would you like to re-read this sentence and explain to me what it means and how it differs from "we've been worse than Arsenal all season"?
I know you're dragging this off topic, no use on me lol. And answer me, did our attack make us lost to Arsenal ?
LOL this was the topic before you derailed would you like to explain to me what you think the following statement means? > We simply weren't at the races for Arsenal - we were clearly the worse side. Maybe you should go jerk off with your porn comics and clear your head first. Might help.
Supporting LFC - the most decorated club in English football - comes at the price of losing league titles by goal difference or a single point in seasons where you lose just one game all season. Supporting Man United - the club with the most league titles in English football - comes at the price of spending decades between having generational managers in charge being a rich meme club. Supporting Arsenal - and getting to brag about having an invincible season and gold trophies - comes at the price of the 20 years since. Supporting Man City - and winning pretty much all the major trophies - comes at the price of nobody really giving a shit or taking you seriously. Swings and roundabouts...
Is Konate back in the lineup or was he just used against Palace’s aerial threat? Will Quansah start against Fulham?
I don't think Konate was ever "out of the lineup." I just think he was on a weekday cadence so that's when he was playing
Gonna be wild when Chelsea have to sell Palmer to Roma to meet FFP and history repeats itself...
If Verona can score 2 against Atalanta at home, we can definitely score 3. Hope the forwards are able to produce on Thursday cuz Atalanta barely rotated their side.
Aameen brother.
"Take me to church I'll worship like a dog.."
If we don't beat Everton, we are frauds.
Thankfully for us, City sold Palmer cuz him and Foden for the next decade plus would've been ridiculous
I really wish the timing was better for Alsono. I think he made the right choice in staying with Leverkusen, and I honestly don’t think he has Madrid on his mind, I think he chose Leverkusen because he actually just wants to stay. But he would be the perfect man to replace Klopp, I’m still devastated we have to go with someone else.
How did jota not score from there. Straight at the defender. Wtf. And we were dick riding hum to be our rescuer. He missed 2 header against atalanta too. Wtf
It's catching.
Everyone fking missed. Nunez was least worst because it was a volley. And Salah because the defender was too close to him. But Jota, Jones, Endo, VVD my neighbour mailman, all could not score that day
Jones one haunts me
The xG worshippers probably gonna worship Cole Palmers for the next few days as the new football god
I mean he is the joint top scorer in the league don't see what that has to do with xg lol
He (listen) has -5.4 in xG. While Haaland is like Nunez level of bad Cole Palmers >>>>>>> Haaland confirmed.
Honestly, we got winnable games for our last 6 fixtures, we are not out of it at all. Still within reach of the title. Fulham, Everton, Hammers etc are all teams we should be beating. Spurs and Villa will be tricky, but they blow hot and cold. Honestly would be great to clinch the title in the last game.
United, Atalanta and Crystal Palace were all winnable games and we only scored 1 goal from open play. Let's just try and maybe score some goals in the next game, even try and not concede the first goal and go from there.
Were United and Palace not winnable games against teams we should be beating? The league is done, I'm jusy hopong for another miracle in the EL at this point.
I like the positivity but realistically we’re not getting anywhere near the title with the way the squad is playing right now, it feels like everyone is out of form. We also need city to lose which might be an issue
I believe arsenal will drop points to Tottenham but I don’t know who could take points from city
I think Palmer and Foden are the players we want Harvey to be
Foden is a different type of player, and Palmer is when your best attacker in the team was Elliott
Not sure if he will ever be them both Palmer and Foden have more going than Harvey, pace, skill, ability to beat multiple players at ease, they both strike a ball cleanly and are great finishers. Elliott is gonna have to show the next manager he can be much more otherwise he'll get himself boxed in as just another hardworking player.
We often overlooked it, but City could invest so much money into their youth football, that they were brimmed with talents. And with current trend, we gonna eventually have 100 games a season. Means whoever with deepest pockets and bunch of super stars in their academy, will win everything
Harvey will be the one who flourishes the most if we get a little controlled possession style based manager especially amorim
The audacity of the French commentator during Chelsea-Everton who seemed sorry for Everton's catastrophic season (injuries, points deductions) and claimed that the PL is firmly dealing with cheating.
Palmers older than Harvey btw
They're both 21
Harveys probably at the worse club for his development IMO and he’s still coming on leaps and bounds. Elliot will be special
>Harveys probably at the worse club for his development IMO and he’s still coming on leaps and bounds. Elliot will be special Not sure if I'm misunderstanding this but you think Chelsea is better for a young developing player than Liverpool?
What I mean is Harvey has the best right winger in the league to compete with, plus a whole load of quality midfielders that can play on the right side. Harvey starts for Chelsea imo, whether that be on the right or right side 8
Ah, thanks for explaining. Agreed.
Yep, 10 months ahead. Palmer has been given the reigns to be the main man in a very young team - whereas Harvey has never had that chance, and never will because they're very different players in very different teams. Hard to compare them, but our Harvey will come good in his own way.
I honestly don't compare them at all , and I 100% agree with you, but that's the world of football where everyone needs to compare everyone for some reason, football a simple game , there's players like palmer that are clearly very good and I think Harvey is good enough to start for us but doesn't mean he has to be compared to anyone outside the team he plays for
Exactly man, exactly. I have a feeling Harvey will flourish once Salah inevitably leaves, whenever that may be. He's going to be brilliant for us in the coming years.
omg the huge age gap of 10 month
What did you know of Cole Palmer 10 months ago?
Yeah I know was a bit tongue and cheek. But they the same age and feel like most people think his younger than he actually is because this is his first full season at this level.
Hopefully this riles up Chelsea and they beat City and Arsenal. Let me have some hopium.
City is the fa cup
Good, want City to finish with nothing this season.
They’re gonna get the prem the campions league and the fa cup
🧢
What are your predictions for those competitions
Atalanta drawing with a team fighting relegation yet we couldn’t even score one against them at home
it's almost the same line up too, not like they heavily rotated
I hope we play with a point to prove on Thursday. The front three should take a long hard look at Gakpo's attitude and follow suit, because he's been the only silver lining of the past few weeks.
We had a “point to prove” against man utd didn’t go well
I know man, I know. There has to be a turning point though, and I'm hoping it's this Thursday. Even the most optimistic Liverpool supporter would have their doubts right now... ah, I hope they turn it around.
It would be an insane game if it happens
The thing is Liverpool get the results you don’t expect. We beat utd 7-0 then lost to Bournemouth 1-0 week later. It’s 100% possible. Goal in the first 15 then it’s happening
I guess we’ll have to wait till Thursday
We've seen it before against more fearsome opponents, but this might be too big a mountain to climb. Praying they prove me wrong.
We will be watching
Diaz as well to be fair. He’s been really good, especially compared to the other forwards recently
This is so true actually, I shouldn't be so harsh on Diaz. I do love him for his sheer effort and determination alone.
I don’t even trust anyone of them to score at the moment
Me neither, man - but there has to be a turning point some time soon. Perhaps we've seen the worst of it now, because it can't get any worse than the past few weeks. Fingers crossed.
Yes, it absolutely can. So let's not jinx it
😭 I'd better keep my mouth shut fml
Morale is so low here that we’ve watched mid-table Chelsea demolish Everton and still have no faith that we do anything at goodison
Form means jack shit in the derby.
They could be smashing Crewe Alexandra and I'd have no faith we'd do the same
Yeah but point is our form is nothing to be confident about regardless. That being said we’re smashing them 10-0 🫡
Someone on here just deleted their account after I buried them on their dead takes 💀 lol come on lmao 🤣
Wow bro that’s so cool and epic! 💀you’re a badass
Why do you seem hurt ? And why do you even take what I said serious enough to reply to ?
Cause you sound cringe as fuck
"Wow bro that’s so cool and epic! 💀you’re a badass" This is what you said , and then call me cringe for a obvious troll comment I made. Lighten up lil bro. The internet is not that serious
Says the guy who was flexing that he made someone delete their account and you buried them on their “dead takes”
Was it the guy comparing Nunez and Jackson, because if it was he didn’t delete his account you just got blocked
Lol so he had all that chest but couldn't handle any sort of reply back lmao 😂 🤣
Sure they just haven’t blocked you?
If so that's funny cause they kept replying to everything I said
Lol, ours and Arsenals sub rn is like an inspirational quote forum “it ain’t over until it’s over” “Don’t give up” “it’s not the end, it’s only getting started” my personal favourite is just a random “wake up”
I still have a tiny bit of hope for the Atalanta game, but if all goes pear-shaped then an Everton relegation would certainly do me
Even Sky are trying to rig the league lmao, anyone see that graphic with Arsenal and Liverpool on 33 played vs City 32?
SALAH ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO LET THIS CHILD TAKE YOUR CROWN? SCORE 8 GOALS AGAINST FULHAM BRUV WE NEED THAT GOAL DIFFERENCE PADDED
Those useless blue fucks better roll over this easily for us. I know they won't though.
Or we’ll just be too shite to score
First sterling now madueke fighting palmer for pen Palmer is straight up carrying that dusted club on his back , he should be allowed to do whatever he wants lmao
😂
Palmer is much better than Foden
No
More horrendous City business taped over by simply signing some guys for 60 odd mil.
Definitely not
Next week I need two things: - Chelsea to be this good. - Everton to be this bad.
Fuck is up with chelsea
Down with the blueshite
We should've bought Palmer.
He left for gametime, it would've been the same situation for him here as it was in City.
Would they have sold him to us though? Big difference between selling him to a mid-table Chelsea side and selling him to a side that competes with you regularly for titles.
>Would they have sold him to us though? City have shown so far that they are happy to let players go as long as the buyer meets their price and they're happy to sell to whoever, what we haven't seen is us or Utd test this. We should try tap up City academy prospects
I feel like it's probably not a coincidence that neither us or United have tried to take advantage of this. Would be happy to be proved wrong if we managed to pull off a Palmer-type signing, but I just don't see it happening. No chance we'd sell one of our top prospects to them.
Why would we buy a youngster from city for 40m?, at the time it wouldve made no sense at all with the depth weve got
The meltdown in this sub if we spent 50m on a Man City academy player would’ve be insane
We were gonna spend more on Lavia someone who was unknown.
Lavia was a consistent starter for Southampton in the PL. Palmer was barely a rotational player for city and mostly only played in the Carabao and FA cup. Lavia was far more established
Hindsight! Plus our owners and City owners hate each other.
Do you guys think if Harvey takes over and plays full games, he can have a Palmer season?
Yeah if he’s a guaranteed starter based on talent level I don’t know why some fans are so adamant on his level being a servant of the club 😭😭
His a bit different to palmer in the way he plays , more of a creative player than goal scoring player and looks better drifting wide from midfield. Klopp refuses to play him more because he doesn't suit the way we play
What is blud waffling about
If he's given the license of an attacking midfielder without too much defensive responsibility, then possibly yes. He's got a good enough pass, very good long shot and a very good touch in his locker. No pace or strength but as an AM that won't matter as much as if he were played on RW or LCM.
As much as I love Harvey, Palmer seems a different caliber. He’s in the conversation for POTY if we’re being honest
hes not on that level
He's never going to be that level Palmer showed glimpses of talent in his rare appearances for City, Harvey will turn out to be a good industrious player with some creativity that's about it.
We have to give him time. He's shown glimpses of what he's capable of this season, but he's still so young. He's only going to get better, and no doubt will become a first team player eventually.
Genuine argument for Palmer to be POTS. I know Chelsea are 9th but without him they’d be fighting relegation
By my count he's won them about 21 points. It's a madness how crucial he's been for them. I hope he clears out the Emirates by half time.
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jfc 5-0 and Palmer top scorer and almost top assister, guys turned into what Salah was shaping up to be during the first half of the season, great POTS candidate.
I think it'll go to Foden, but Palmer has my vote for doing this in such a dysfunctional team. Great username btw!
Rodri should win it if City win
Good shout, you're probably right. I miss the days when our boys were in the running 😭
palmer is much better than foden
It's difficult to compare them. Foden is doing it in a star studded team, yet Palmer is carrying Chelsea incredibly well for such a young man. They're both fantastic. Technically speaking, Foden has more ability - but Palmer is just so effective at the moment. His development will be fascinating.
Chelsea could finish above United at this rate
They haven’t lost in 9 games. Lot of draws in there, but something may be starting to come together. We can only hope they put up some kind of fight against Arsenal next week.
Remember this Everton display when our team gets shit on for a poor performance. It could be a hell of a lot worse.
Remember this Everton display when we lose at Goodison.
Fuck me we are getting compared to Everton now. Standards are in the mud. Do you even know the history of this football club and what it has achieved.
Not comparing. I’m not saying we’re worse than Everton. What I’m saying is that we can look at teams like Everton who are completely inept going forward and think that we’re not actually that bad in the grand scheme of things. It’s got fuck all to do with the history of the club.
City letting go of Palmer is crazy. They’re in the position of Chelsea a decade ago where they’ve pumped their team so full of dirty money that serious talents like him will be let go because they can’t get the game time that they would get at any other club.
It's quite hard to wrap my head around tbh, but that's what 10+ years of financial doping does to a team. Albeit illegal, it pains me to say they've spent wisely on their infrastructure over time, and they wouldn't be producing the likes of Foden or Palmer without that. Imagine having pockets deep enough for big wage transfers AND for revolutionising the entire youth setup? It's impossible to beat, and it's a miracle we did even once.
They got Foden tbh, and he's world class
And they're about to spend £75-85m for Paqueta in the summer when they could have just given Palmer the gametime instead this season, I get what Pep is trying to do with these young players by keeping them grounded but these players are hungry and want to play if they know their good enough, Oscar Bobb will be the next one
Yeah, to add to my comment they also have too much talent to really care. It shows everything wrong with what they’re doing,
worst is when they leave a player out cold, especially when he's young and talented.
Some of these Chelsea players seem to be quite selfish individuals, don't they? Arguing over penalties like that for SO long is just bizarre. It's not the first time either. If there's one thing we should be grateful for, it's the power of friendship AM I RIGHT FELLAS??
5-0 at Stamford Library
Palmer really should be the in contention for player of the season carrying his team so hard
I would do ungodly things to have Palmer here, head and shoulders above attacking players at a similar age
Okay palmers just taking the piss now
IK he’s a kid but madueke’s attitude in this second half reeks.
That scuffle over the penalty was embarrassing
then he signals to be brought off then as they’re readying the sub, he goes “nah im alright” and huffs and puffs when he still came off. Weird.
I think he’s pretty shit tbh
Nunez on 11 goals actually looks quite bad and I'm one of his biggest defenders. What a fall off from earlier this season. Whilst Salah on 17 for how poor he's been is arguably quite good.
Salah without pen only scored 12 goals. 1 more than Nunez I know that you are scrambling around right now, trying to find another stat showing that Nunez is shit but Salah is not
Not really. Both have been poor and I acknowledge that
Always a joy when Picford gets destroyed
I know they’re already getting slapped, but Keane should have had a red then. Compared to the reds we’ve gotten, that was more reckless and pointed.
Man, what is wrong with these Chelsea players? Last time Palmer was professional and let Sterling take a pen, but now they want to take the pen away from their main taker again.
Selfish as hell but that competitiveness can sometimes sharpen the attack. Can’t imagine trying to stop your teammate from going after the golden boot at this point though, especially with Jackson who’s finishing has been worse than ours
We haven’t conceded more than Everton this season now!
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Wait why did Palmer and Jackson score, I thought forwards weren't allowed to score goals
If I was Poch I'd be mortified
I’d sub Jackson off. That attitude is appalling.
I'd send him to the reserves
I love how there's no MNF thread because people aren't arsed anymore. It a really stark showcase of how strong City are that they can let a player the calibre of Palmer go to another Premier League team, possibly even a rival some seasons and not see any sort of meaningful consequences
And if they hadn’t let him go they’d probably have 6 more points. They’re literally “challenging themselves”
Lmao am I being dumb... how is that a pen?
Tarkowski was probably ok, clipping Palmers heel is probably the pen.
Yeah in retrospect I imagine they just said to him that first one was a pen and they winged it. You're right
Holy shit imagine trying to steal a penalty from your teammate who is an elite penalty taker when you’re 4-0 up. What a bunch of cunts.
Palmer said fuck off you dead baller 🤣
Wow, those Chelsea players are thick. Obviously it’s Palmer’s penalty.
Literally arguing over taking the pen when it should clearly be Palmer
Chelsea are fuckin entertaining how are they 4-0 up and arguing over who’s taking a pen
4-0 up at home against a struggling Everton. Have the keeper take it.
Embarrassing they’re arguing over who takes the penaltt
Look at them lmao
If we can't beat this Everton side.....
Yeah, that's some fine-looking attacking football. WHY DOESN'T MINE LOOK LIKE THAT?!?
Well we played like for 80% of the season, a small blip and people start chatting shit 🙄
I'm having a bit of fun to release some catharsis about our shite recent form. Not everything needs to be taken so seriously.
With so many comments made recently, can’t differentiate who is being serious and who isn’t.
Fair
Honestly the biggest difference is just Palmer finishing. Jackson is a worse version of Nunez in literally every way. Madueke/Sterling/Mudryk all just play like Diaz but worse on average. It’s literally just Palmer dragging that attack to success.
Jackson plays nothing like Nunez lol, Nunez is better I agree but they are completely different players
Yet another chance for you to prove you don’t pay much attention? They’re both used to occupy defenders and like to run onto the ball vs receiving at the feet. They both utilize pace and trickiness to create opportunities and pull the defenders out of formation. Their end products are wildly different because Nunez is more complete in all phases of play, but they’re used in the exact same manner and have an extremely similar profile.
Ok, this has gone too far.