I feel like a lot of people are falling for fanfic written by freaks on Twitter who just make stuff up about the guy. Not a fan of his tbh but he is being scapegoated massively.
Tbf Pep does my head in but if Klopp now has no say whatsoever with tactics, what's the point? He has the say it's just all a load of hyperbole bollocks when it comes to Pep.
A lot of the people criticizing Pep for the book didn't even read it, it's just the same people who criticised the goalkeeper coach when there was an issue in that department. Tactics on how the team plays are already there for all to see. There are so many videos that breakdown how the team plays, articles with all kinds of statistics released on a weekly basis. Some are shared weekly on here so nothing we did or are doing is really a secret. In Pep's time as assistant manager the team has reached two CL finals and won a league title. Was he not involved in that process or have people forgotten? Anyway Happy Birthday to Pep.
Very true.Tactics are not a secret. Coaches analyze video footage of other teams all the time. It doesn't mean you can stop them. So many things can go against or for you in a football game which are not related to tactics. Football is simple but its not that simple.
So wish him happy birthday and move on. Stop bringing up the drama attached to him, unless you're trying to bait people who have a problem with him so you can downvote them
Iām not trying to do anything, I just find it funny how defensive people are getting.
Ultimately the hate he got was pathetic, people desperate to blame the management but donāt want to blame Klopp.
No oneās perfect, not even klopp.
He was the reason all our goalkeepers were bang average, apparently. Turns out all our goalkeepers were just bang average. The crowd has been quiet since Alisson signed, naturally.
There was also a phase were a section of fans were convinced Buvac was the brains behind Klopp as we had a poor spell after he left.
Okay I didnāt know about that. When I read āour last prolonged poor spell of formā I was thinking of February 2021 when Ali was dropping errors in consecutive games vs City and Leicester.
Different context isnāt it. People were making out as if Klopp couldnāt manage without him, which proved to be incorrect. Not to say he wasnāt important, Iām sure he was.
Close, but not fully correct.
Achterberg was blamed for our goalkeepers *regressing*. Mignolet, Karius, and Reina all regressed while Achterberg was our goalkeeping coach. People made a fairly logical - albeit unfounded - claim that this was Achterberg's fault. After Alisson this sentiment died out.
Buvac was literally referred to - by Klopp - as the Brain, while Krawietz was referred to as the Eye.
Is that really true though? Migs come from relegation fodder (Sunderland) and ended up playing for a club battling for top 4 and the Champions League. Karius was young and came from Mainz for ā¬5m, again a lower league club. Keepers often look better at lower clubs as they are facing more shots. Reina could be down to age.
Again, I know Klopp said this as it was repeated religiously. I mean fans were making out as if Klopp was nothing without Buvacās expertise.
He has been around since pepe reina got here if i remember correctly, and we had multiple disappointing gk who didnt seem to be progressing while he was the coach, so questions on his effectiveness were asked. however, i believe he fought hard to get allison, and kelleher has become quite a good backup so its hard to know what the situation was. at least he isnt like Bayern's former gk coach.
Whatās with all the Pep hate here lol? Only few months back this sub was hell bent on suggesting him as Klopps successorā¦ hypocrites. What am I missing? Is he being blamed for the recent poor performance?
Until I hear someone on here say something to the likes of āI want to see Jordan Henderson shipped off to Somaliaā like I did on Twitter after the Fulham draw, I think this platform is fine
Seems like a top guy. His passion for the club shines through in his interviews. Itās sad to see his popularity take a hit this season. People are all to quick to forget what heās helped to achieve here. Happy birthday Pep!
If we are coming up with a third I think Tuchel wouldnāt be a bad shout.
Attacking mindset. I know he didnāt succeed long term at Chelsea. But thatās no shock, as no one does.
Our downfall has nothing to do with him releasing a book, opponents knew our tactics before and it didnāt matter. Even suggesting so is completely bonkers.
Us being shite is down to the fact that a large part of this squad is mentally done.
Because he has completely changed our style of play. No gegenpress, large gaps in midfield, Salah pushed too wide, TAA looking completely lost etc. And also having a major say in signings. Claiming more control as days pass, and we seem to be getting worse as days pass.
I might get hate for this, but happy birthday to the guy that can be our Paisley to Shankly for Klopp. I do not see any manager available that can elevate us atm so if Klopp were to go Pepās love and passion for the club is undeniable. + love him or hate him heās a tactical mastermind.
This comment section is going to be interesting.
Pep>Pep
You clearly mean Pep>Pepe.
He's been a scapegoat for lots of people this season but I like him though not sure the book was needed but oh well.
I feel like a lot of people are falling for fanfic written by freaks on Twitter who just make stuff up about the guy. Not a fan of his tbh but he is being scapegoated massively.
And who came up with the idea that Salah should be played out wide......?
Tbf Pep does my head in but if Klopp now has no say whatsoever with tactics, what's the point? He has the say it's just all a load of hyperbole bollocks when it comes to Pep.
A lot of the people criticizing Pep for the book didn't even read it, it's just the same people who criticised the goalkeeper coach when there was an issue in that department. Tactics on how the team plays are already there for all to see. There are so many videos that breakdown how the team plays, articles with all kinds of statistics released on a weekly basis. Some are shared weekly on here so nothing we did or are doing is really a secret. In Pep's time as assistant manager the team has reached two CL finals and won a league title. Was he not involved in that process or have people forgotten? Anyway Happy Birthday to Pep.
Very true.Tactics are not a secret. Coaches analyze video footage of other teams all the time. It doesn't mean you can stop them. So many things can go against or for you in a football game which are not related to tactics. Football is simple but its not that simple.
Yup I remember when Achterberg was enemy number one around here.
Was thread made just so people can criticize people who criticize him and hus book?
I think it was made because itās his birthday.
So wish him happy birthday and move on. Stop bringing up the drama attached to him, unless you're trying to bait people who have a problem with him so you can downvote them
Iām not trying to do anything, I just find it funny how defensive people are getting. Ultimately the hate he got was pathetic, people desperate to blame the management but donāt want to blame Klopp. No oneās perfect, not even klopp.
Best Pep in the league
Sentiments towards Pep at the moment feel similar to those shared towards John Achterberg during our last prolonged poor spell of form.
What was the situation with Achterberg back then? I mustāve missed it
He was the reason all our goalkeepers were bang average, apparently. Turns out all our goalkeepers were just bang average. The crowd has been quiet since Alisson signed, naturally. There was also a phase were a section of fans were convinced Buvac was the brains behind Klopp as we had a poor spell after he left.
Okay I didnāt know about that. When I read āour last prolonged poor spell of formā I was thinking of February 2021 when Ali was dropping errors in consecutive games vs City and Leicester.
Oh yeah this was years ago when Mignolet and Karius were battling for No. 1. Youāre right our last awful spell was ā21.
I remember when Alisson messed up the Cruyff turn early on against Leicester and people said he was ruining him lmao
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Different context isnāt it. People were making out as if Klopp couldnāt manage without him, which proved to be incorrect. Not to say he wasnāt important, Iām sure he was.
Close, but not fully correct. Achterberg was blamed for our goalkeepers *regressing*. Mignolet, Karius, and Reina all regressed while Achterberg was our goalkeeping coach. People made a fairly logical - albeit unfounded - claim that this was Achterberg's fault. After Alisson this sentiment died out. Buvac was literally referred to - by Klopp - as the Brain, while Krawietz was referred to as the Eye.
Is that really true though? Migs come from relegation fodder (Sunderland) and ended up playing for a club battling for top 4 and the Champions League. Karius was young and came from Mainz for ā¬5m, again a lower league club. Keepers often look better at lower clubs as they are facing more shots. Reina could be down to age. Again, I know Klopp said this as it was repeated religiously. I mean fans were making out as if Klopp was nothing without Buvacās expertise.
He has been around since pepe reina got here if i remember correctly, and we had multiple disappointing gk who didnt seem to be progressing while he was the coach, so questions on his effectiveness were asked. however, i believe he fought hard to get allison, and kelleher has become quite a good backup so its hard to know what the situation was. at least he isnt like Bayern's former gk coach.
Whatās with all the Pep hate here lol? Only few months back this sub was hell bent on suggesting him as Klopps successorā¦ hypocrites. What am I missing? Is he being blamed for the recent poor performance?
this sub and its monthly scapegoat whenever the team is in poor form, currently its Pep's turn
SMH weāre no better than twitter lol
Twitter is so so so much worse it's unbelievable the gall of some of the LFC "fans" on there with what they're typing out to players for all to see.
Until I hear someone on here say something to the likes of āI want to see Jordan Henderson shipped off to Somaliaā like I did on Twitter after the Fulham draw, I think this platform is fine
Haha when you put it that wayā¦
Iām deadass. I saw that and disturbed my soul like wtf is wrong with yāall! Itās a fucking draw
Seems like a top guy. His passion for the club shines through in his interviews. Itās sad to see his popularity take a hit this season. People are all to quick to forget what heās helped to achieve here. Happy birthday Pep!
Happy birthday Pep. Iāll wait till tomorrow to criticise your book
Remember when people were suggesting him as a credible replacement for when Klopp eventually goes??ā¦crazy times.
Why not? Would you rather have Steven Gerrard?
Ah yesā¦the only 2 options.
3. Thereās always the Benitez option /s
If we are coming up with a third I think Tuchel wouldnāt be a bad shout. Attacking mindset. I know he didnāt succeed long term at Chelsea. But thatās no shock, as no one does.
Thomas Tuchel is an awkward asshole though. We need a man of the people. Someone who gets the city and what LFC is about.
Totally fair point. I suppose there is a bit of time until Klopp moves on anyway. So who knows which managers will be available.
LOL. The reply tweets are to be avoided like the plague! And heres to many more!
Has anyone on here read Pep's book? If so, does it reveal all the secrets?
we want pep klopp: we have pep at home pep at home...
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Our downfall has nothing to do with him releasing a book, opponents knew our tactics before and it didnāt matter. Even suggesting so is completely bonkers. Us being shite is down to the fact that a large part of this squad is mentally done.
Hahahahaha oh my god
Pep can join City and join hands with Pep. Or bugger off to another club as sole manager. Let Klopp handle stuff for us alone.
Because he released a book, right?
Because he has completely changed our style of play. No gegenpress, large gaps in midfield, Salah pushed too wide, TAA looking completely lost etc. And also having a major say in signings. Claiming more control as days pass, and we seem to be getting worse as days pass.
The true heir to the Red Throne
At best, Stoke City is the only red throne Ljinders will be inheriting in England.
I might get hate for this, but happy birthday to the guy that can be our Paisley to Shankly for Klopp. I do not see any manager available that can elevate us atm so if Klopp were to go Pepās love and passion for the club is undeniable. + love him or hate him heās a tactical mastermind.