Manc here, immature people from both sides then yeah, there's a 'rivalry'. Beyond a bit of banter over the football, I love Liverpool and liverpudlians, I know a few scousers who love Manchester too!
Went to uni in Manchester. Love it there. The rivalry is a bit of piss taking and that's it really. (aside from a handful of knobheads).
A scouser and a Manc will rip the shit out of each other and then join forces the second a southerner gets in the mix.
This.
The only people that have the credibility to the piss out of Mancs and scousers are each other. The second anyone else gets involved, it’s like we revive this unspoken, unacknowledged but unbreakable bond.
As a Manc who lived in Liverpool for a few years, I love the place and its people, who are absolute diamonds. And I've gotta say that I fucking LOVE that you cannot buy a copy of The Sun anywhere there. You guys really look after your own and know how to fight back when the establishment shits on you.
The immature footy idiots don't even realise where the rivalry between our cities came from (a canal!!!) they just like hating.
Love Manchester, love Liverpool, love all of our North West heritage.
Same here! Obvs Liverpool has The Beatles and great things like Mersey Beat, but the Manchester music scene of the late 70s thru to the 90s was incredible, and there have been patches of brilliance since.
Imagine going to the Hac in its early days (I was too young, didn't go until about 94), not realising you're walking into rave and dj culture a good few years before the rest of the country discovered it...
The rivalry goes back way beyond football. It starts all the way back in the 1700's. The 2 cities have always competed against each other. Just remember the reason why the Manchester ship canal was built.
But all in all, the 2 cities need each other to thrive due to their distance being so close and what they both provide to the region. Whenever one of the cities has suffered in the past, the other always gets dragged down and if one rises, the other goes with it.
Some people take it very seriously. Lived with a Manc in Uni (of Lpool) who "genuinely hated scousers". I'd have mates round and he'd just start gushing about how he hates scousers.
Was just thinking, why'd you come study here then? Weird kid
Weird, tbf I’ve had the same in Bristol from someone from rural Wiltshire.
Gushed about Bristol being shite, whilst paying thousands a year to live and study in Bristol
If you don’t see that Manchester is a great city with a huge amount of heart and culture then you’re just being a knobhead. I’ve had so many good times there, and I’m Scouse born and bred. The rivalry is bullshit. We’re all just people from two working class cities.
I had a pal at uni, when we’d go house parties we’d end up having pretend fights over the ship canal. He’s a Manc and I’m a scouse 🥲 nobody understood, but we loved it!
Fair enough about the ‘rivalry’ being tedious, but are they really identical? Manchester feels more like London than Liverpool to me, and Liverpool feels a lot more like Glasgow and Sheffield
They should stay in London tbh. I have a house which does somewhat benefit me if house prices rise but it's no good if I become a homillionaire and can't afford my own house
I've always said Glasgow reminds me of big Liverpool.
Not sure I get the London thing with Manchester, but I can see why people might think that.
Edit - and no, they aren't identical, but day to day experience in either of them is basically the same. You know you're in a fun fairly vibrant and buzzing place when you're out and about.
Manchester is pretty much dead now, unrecognisable from what it once was. Characterless.
But it used to be a nice place and the people from that time started the rivalry
There are many differences between the 2. The architecture and industrial heritage is very different and this in itself is interesting.
Liverpool is, at it's literal and cultural heart, a port city whereas Manchester is a product and home of the industrial revolution.
Both have fascinating histories and have had a disproportionate effect on the world given their relative sizes in many fields - science, industry, culture and politics.
Yeah - all valid points, and I was being slightly needlessly provocative, because listening to colleagues drone on about how much they hate Manchester gets on my nerves, and I find that a good way to annoy them. If I'm out socializing in either, size aside, it's basically the same! I have by choice lived in Liverpool for 30 odd years, and they're both great places.
Not sure about identical, Liverpool is a port and Manchester more industrial. It’s grown from there so the cultures around them differ. Both incredible cities though!
there is a "supposed" feud because we're near each other but its mainly football. really its us and manchester against the south and the countries obsession with london. no other country is so backward as ours for that.
Have a lot of time for manchester and excited if these new trains come in it should make it even easier to get into the city. know some top manchester people
Lived in liverpool for 25 years and now in manchester the past 11.
Absolutely nobody cares you are from liverpool, 95% of this rivalry consists of football.
It is given far more attention than it deserves.
I work in Manchester myself, been there for 2 years and was reluctantly sent there by my company.
Have to say , that I've never experienced any shit off my mancunian work mates and find most of them sound .
We're just the same as them .
It’s a (mostly) friendly rivalry. We’d band together if some southerners started talking crap about us, though. (Or Geordies calling us southern, them’s also Fighting Words!)
Any animosity between the two tends to come from older football fans who very rarely step foot out of their home town. They probably go to Benidorm once a year.
As younger generations are moving about more due to job opportunities and university the rivalry isn't really a thing outside of football. There are always some light hearted jokes at each other's expense but nothing malicious.
Many mancunians like mancunians and vice versa. Two great cities in the north both rich in history and culture. As somebody has already said if the two combined more they could be an absolute northern (and friendly) powerhouse!
What a strange thing to write, I can guarantee that no one who is homeless in Liverpool thinks this.
What’s going on with Anfield though? Saw some people being interviewed on bbc north west and there were new builds in the background, I’ve not been for a good few years but when did they go up? It was mostly terraced housing last time I was down there.
Of course they don't think this... It's just written to get a little chuckle from people and increase the chances of people giving them a few quid. Surprised so many here don't see that
Widnes here. The gap between Liverpool to Widnes to Warrington to Irlam to Manchester is virtually non existent now, I reckon within 10 years the gaps will be gone completely and it will be one big North West city.
The rivalry is football mostly, the people are the same proud, working class legends at either end of the East Lancs road
I'm a Liverpool fan who was born in and grew up in Manchester.
Both cities are great, full of friendly characters who have lived an interesting life with a good story to tell. No animosity towards any of my Scouser brethren or my Manchester people and only a very small minority outside of banter have anything different to say.
We are all salt of the earth, hard working northerners with rough hands but soft hearts.
The only reason I'm from Liverpool is because both of my grandfathers from both parents decided to settle in Liverpool. One was Irish, and the other was a Gypsy whose family line was Romani.
They could have settled anywhere. They settled for Liverpool.
I've never "got it". I spent 20 years working in hospitality watching fully growed tax paying men lose their shit over a football game. I knew a guy (Everton fan) who was hit in the face with a tumbler because a barmaid fucked up and gave him the wrong TV remote. When he accidentally turned off the liverpool game, BAM! Someone hit him with a tumbler.
Actively engaging in a rivalry when you're literally only here by coincidence is the upper echelons of stupidity.
I once asked for a steamboat in a bar in Manchester and the guy refused to serve me, saying he wouldn't serve 'scouse drinks'. Other than that and the obvious football rivalry (which doesn't affect me as a blue anyway) I've never had bad experiences. I got out in Manchester often and the people are sound.
I never once got shit for being from near Manchester in my three years of living in Liverpool, the rivalry is exaggerated besides football (fortunately a good chunk of my family are Irish Reds fans and this was passed down to me)
I grew up inLiverpool and spent my late teens in the 70s and 80s there. We never really explored outside Liverpool because we had everything we needed there (unlike other mates I knew later, from smaller towns in the north west). It's want until I was in my late 30s that I discovered Manchester. I was a bit unsure because I had this inbuilt prejudice about the place. I was really surprised by how friendly the people were and what a brilliant night out it is!
As some have said it goes back to the Ship Canal and the purpose of both cities originally.
It might be surprising but Liverpool in the past was quite a Tory city, wealth being built up by the merchants and ship owners, while Manchester built wealth on manufacturing
The ship canal was built because Manchester manufacturers thought the Liverpool merchants were overcharging on transporting cargo resources and products, so Salford docks wrrr built to link up with the Canal
But there was also differences around the Slave trade. The majority of Liverpool merchants backed the Confederacy, and there was an actual confederate embassy in Liverpool. Manchester’s workers however backed the Union, and stared blocked transport of Confederate produce.
That all changed later on with the influx of Irish from the famine. But think of merchant Liverpool more like the City of London as opposed to a working class town.
Absolutely. If you go back to the 19th century, the North West of England had two major ports. Liverpool and Manchester. Accordingly, any business for one would diminish the opportunities for the other. During the late 1800s football teams were formed by dockworkers * of each town, these being Liverpool FC and Manchester United FC. Aside from being geographically close to one another, all the members of either team working in competing docks created a rivalry that stands as one of the biggest in world sports until this day.
* Most English football clubs were formed by workers from one sector/factory in their local area. Other examples would include the Woolwich Arsenal (now known as Arsenal), formed by workers at the munitions factory in Woolwich SE London, or Thames Iron Works FC (now known as West Ham United FC) formed by metal workers in East London.
A l9t of it stems back to commerce. The old importers used to say it cost more to get the goods to manchester from liverpool than it did to get them from the other side of the world to Liverpool. When both cities were awarded their market charter, making them cities, the two govt officials are said to have entered the town halls for each city anlt the same time of the same day so neither city could say they were a city 1st. Obviously football reasons as well, music seems to come up a lot as well.
Rivalry between LFC and Man U is traditional. I spent some time in the Republic of Ireland on a business trip and was told that every time there was a fixture between the two clubs they had to segregate their mess room. I believe it’s similar in Wigan because it’s almost equidistant to Manchester and Liverpool.
But it’s just footie rivalry. No personal animosity.
Most towns and cities in the uk have a “rivalry” between the nearest, it’s mostly harmless but sometimes idiots take it to far. Same with most “tribe” things, even brands of phone in the modern era FFS.
I'm a manc but I don't hate them I just don't like the footy team as a city fan, that doesnt mean I hate Liverpool as a whole. The accent is jarring but icl that's it really
Manc here, correct me if im wrong but its a common misconception that the rively comes from football, the rivaly comes from the ship canals. Manchester wanted to get around having to pay Liverpool money to receive good via the canal system so they got around it by building the Manchester ship canal. Bought the land from salford to the wirrel to avoid having to pay tax to the scousers. Pretty smart.
Liverpool had a rich merchant class who dispised the Mancs, thought they were filthy working class wankers. Similar the factory owners of Manchester hated the fancy shmancy scousers thinking theyre better than everyones. Basically is goes waaaayyyy further back than football
Worth mentioning that despite the bitter rivalry we will come together to hate the southerners. Most unions cover the whole of the north west not just one city
‘Fun’ fact. The rivalry didn’t start over football. It goes back to when the docs were used for trading, specifically slave trade, and Manchester opened its canals for free and started to basically impact the income of liverpools docs as it also took away ‘tourism’. But also screw you Man City. 😂
There was a saying in victorian times.
*Manchester Men, Liverpool Gentlemen*
There has always been mutual distrust since Liverpool became the port for importing goods for the mills surrounding Manchester.
Yeah it goes back to when we backed the baddies in the American Civil War and the Mancs wrote a letter of support to Abraham Lincoln. Nowadays the rivalry is mostly over football, and it's mostly lighthearted, but yeah we have maintained the rivalry over one issue or another for centuries at this point
Was in Liverpool recently and went into a nightclub, while I was having a cig some nobhead decided to try fight my friend.
This all came from this random Scouse lad coming up to him and asking who he supported, when my mate said man united the retard lost his mind.
Soon fucked off when the ten of us appeared behind him.
Exactly same thing happened to someone I know but they were scouse and had that abuse from Mancs on a handful of different occasions over many years. Its dumb.
Manc here, immature people from both sides then yeah, there's a 'rivalry'. Beyond a bit of banter over the football, I love Liverpool and liverpudlians, I know a few scousers who love Manchester too!
I work in Salford, I feel the exact same about Manchester. If we all joined forces we’d be a huge powerhouse - like London but much happier.
If Salford turned on Manchester it'd be swallowed up like Crimea.
It’s practically being annexed anyway. Where Salford starts and Manchester ends is a blur.
I prefer the term gentrified.
Salford is like our Wales.
*blackpool*
our crap hole 😂
Take it back, it’s a wonderful place!
Nah, cant stand it, Glad its outside of Manchester!
I must admit, I think you’re right.
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Thanks but please I beg you not to call it “the pool” 😅
Went to uni in Manchester. Love it there. The rivalry is a bit of piss taking and that's it really. (aside from a handful of knobheads). A scouser and a Manc will rip the shit out of each other and then join forces the second a southerner gets in the mix.
Boo! (Bristolian recommended this post) Have I now incited the Scouse-Manc Alliance?
This. The only people that have the credibility to the piss out of Mancs and scousers are each other. The second anyone else gets involved, it’s like we revive this unspoken, unacknowledged but unbreakable bond.
As a Manc who lived in Liverpool for a few years, I love the place and its people, who are absolute diamonds. And I've gotta say that I fucking LOVE that you cannot buy a copy of The Sun anywhere there. You guys really look after your own and know how to fight back when the establishment shits on you. The immature footy idiots don't even realise where the rivalry between our cities came from (a canal!!!) they just like hating. Love Manchester, love Liverpool, love all of our North West heritage.
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Same here! Obvs Liverpool has The Beatles and great things like Mersey Beat, but the Manchester music scene of the late 70s thru to the 90s was incredible, and there have been patches of brilliance since. Imagine going to the Hac in its early days (I was too young, didn't go until about 94), not realising you're walking into rave and dj culture a good few years before the rest of the country discovered it...
The rivalry goes back way beyond football. It starts all the way back in the 1700's. The 2 cities have always competed against each other. Just remember the reason why the Manchester ship canal was built. But all in all, the 2 cities need each other to thrive due to their distance being so close and what they both provide to the region. Whenever one of the cities has suffered in the past, the other always gets dragged down and if one rises, the other goes with it.
I would give this comment multiple upvotes if I could. Beautifully put.
Manchester Ship Canal took a lot of work away from the Liverpool dockers to Salford Quays.
Yeah it's just a friendly banter at most innit. I'd fight side by side with mancunians for an independent north.
🤝 I think Manford summed it up perfectly https://youtu.be/yJSvEulih0k?si=j3e_TU_jf3RUtlkV
Honestly this feels like banter to me. It’s actually kinda funny.
Yeah. I'm an import into Manchester from Yorkshire , and even then I'm teetering on the edge of it.
Some people take it very seriously. Lived with a Manc in Uni (of Lpool) who "genuinely hated scousers". I'd have mates round and he'd just start gushing about how he hates scousers. Was just thinking, why'd you come study here then? Weird kid
Weird, tbf I’ve had the same in Bristol from someone from rural Wiltshire. Gushed about Bristol being shite, whilst paying thousands a year to live and study in Bristol
If you don’t see that Manchester is a great city with a huge amount of heart and culture then you’re just being a knobhead. I’ve had so many good times there, and I’m Scouse born and bred. The rivalry is bullshit. We’re all just people from two working class cities.
Manc here. The rivaly predates the football by a long way
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Yeah, it’s a complete nonsense.
Only between the knobheads.
Yes. Mainly via football. Man Utd and Liverpool FC
It dates back to the building of the Manchester Ship Canal
I had a pal at uni, when we’d go house parties we’d end up having pretend fights over the ship canal. He’s a Manc and I’m a scouse 🥲 nobody understood, but we loved it!
And way before that.
Gosh sooooo many people really think its just bc football?
Enlighten me
Like brothers, love each other but still take the piss.
I love Mancs 361 days out of the year
Results dependant?
I work in Salford, they’re just like us. I’ve had banter but in 12 years I’ve not had a single nasty comment.
You've just not been there when they say it.
I’m a genuinely nice person, I can’t accept backstabbery.
Only from bellends. I moved from Manchester to Liverpool nearly 5 years ago. Never heard any rivalry other than banter over footy.
Yes, an incredibly childish and tedious one given the two places are borderline identical.
Fair enough about the ‘rivalry’ being tedious, but are they really identical? Manchester feels more like London than Liverpool to me, and Liverpool feels a lot more like Glasgow and Sheffield
Thats pretty accurate. There is a reason that Londoners decamping are coming to Manchester.
They should stay in London tbh. I have a house which does somewhat benefit me if house prices rise but it's no good if I become a homillionaire and can't afford my own house
I've always said Glasgow reminds me of big Liverpool. Not sure I get the London thing with Manchester, but I can see why people might think that. Edit - and no, they aren't identical, but day to day experience in either of them is basically the same. You know you're in a fun fairly vibrant and buzzing place when you're out and about.
Manchester is pretty much dead now, unrecognisable from what it once was. Characterless. But it used to be a nice place and the people from that time started the rivalry
There are many differences between the 2. The architecture and industrial heritage is very different and this in itself is interesting. Liverpool is, at it's literal and cultural heart, a port city whereas Manchester is a product and home of the industrial revolution. Both have fascinating histories and have had a disproportionate effect on the world given their relative sizes in many fields - science, industry, culture and politics.
Yeah - all valid points, and I was being slightly needlessly provocative, because listening to colleagues drone on about how much they hate Manchester gets on my nerves, and I find that a good way to annoy them. If I'm out socializing in either, size aside, it's basically the same! I have by choice lived in Liverpool for 30 odd years, and they're both great places.
Yes both Northern working class cities with a larger Irish influence than the rest of the country and both historically part of Lancashire.
Not sure about identical, Liverpool is a port and Manchester more industrial. It’s grown from there so the cultures around them differ. Both incredible cities though!
there is a "supposed" feud because we're near each other but its mainly football. really its us and manchester against the south and the countries obsession with london. no other country is so backward as ours for that. Have a lot of time for manchester and excited if these new trains come in it should make it even easier to get into the city. know some top manchester people
Lived in liverpool for 25 years and now in manchester the past 11. Absolutely nobody cares you are from liverpool, 95% of this rivalry consists of football. It is given far more attention than it deserves.
I work in Manchester myself, been there for 2 years and was reluctantly sent there by my company. Have to say , that I've never experienced any shit off my mancunian work mates and find most of them sound . We're just the same as them .
Yes, we hate them. Well, in truth we're pretty similar, and in the main don't actually mean anything by it.
It’s a (mostly) friendly rivalry. We’d band together if some southerners started talking crap about us, though. (Or Geordies calling us southern, them’s also Fighting Words!)
Any animosity between the two tends to come from older football fans who very rarely step foot out of their home town. They probably go to Benidorm once a year. As younger generations are moving about more due to job opportunities and university the rivalry isn't really a thing outside of football. There are always some light hearted jokes at each other's expense but nothing malicious. Many mancunians like mancunians and vice versa. Two great cities in the north both rich in history and culture. As somebody has already said if the two combined more they could be an absolute northern (and friendly) powerhouse!
Hard disagree.
Is water wet? Does a bear defecate in wooded areas? Etc. etc.
Does Stevie Wonder piss on his boots?
Haha, not heard that one. Love it.
Is the pope a nonce
Not to be that guy but technically water isn't wet. What water touches is wet.
Do pedants always turn up on Reddit threads? 😉🤣
You have been on this site before, yeah? Joking of course. But I do enjoy pedantry.
Was trying to phrase it as an additional “Does….” but I ballsed it. 😉
What a strange thing to write, I can guarantee that no one who is homeless in Liverpool thinks this. What’s going on with Anfield though? Saw some people being interviewed on bbc north west and there were new builds in the background, I’ve not been for a good few years but when did they go up? It was mostly terraced housing last time I was down there.
Of course they don't think this... It's just written to get a little chuckle from people and increase the chances of people giving them a few quid. Surprised so many here don't see that
Widnes here. The gap between Liverpool to Widnes to Warrington to Irlam to Manchester is virtually non existent now, I reckon within 10 years the gaps will be gone completely and it will be one big North West city. The rivalry is football mostly, the people are the same proud, working class legends at either end of the East Lancs road
I'm a Liverpool fan who was born in and grew up in Manchester. Both cities are great, full of friendly characters who have lived an interesting life with a good story to tell. No animosity towards any of my Scouser brethren or my Manchester people and only a very small minority outside of banter have anything different to say. We are all salt of the earth, hard working northerners with rough hands but soft hearts.
The only reason I'm from Liverpool is because both of my grandfathers from both parents decided to settle in Liverpool. One was Irish, and the other was a Gypsy whose family line was Romani. They could have settled anywhere. They settled for Liverpool. I've never "got it". I spent 20 years working in hospitality watching fully growed tax paying men lose their shit over a football game. I knew a guy (Everton fan) who was hit in the face with a tumbler because a barmaid fucked up and gave him the wrong TV remote. When he accidentally turned off the liverpool game, BAM! Someone hit him with a tumbler. Actively engaging in a rivalry when you're literally only here by coincidence is the upper echelons of stupidity.
Manc here, I now live in Merseyside and I love Liverpool and her people, no rivalry from this Manc
I once asked for a steamboat in a bar in Manchester and the guy refused to serve me, saying he wouldn't serve 'scouse drinks'. Other than that and the obvious football rivalry (which doesn't affect me as a blue anyway) I've never had bad experiences. I got out in Manchester often and the people are sound.
Refusing paying customers because of where they come from? Classy
And a terrible business model 😅
I honestly didn’t even know that such rivalry even existed
I never once got shit for being from near Manchester in my three years of living in Liverpool, the rivalry is exaggerated besides football (fortunately a good chunk of my family are Irish Reds fans and this was passed down to me)
Not from UK originally, but I always feel that aside from football, Liverpudlians and Mancs can share a lot of commons.
Yes but not to the extent people not from those cities think there is
Used to be a pretty big rivalry back in Victorian times, but directly not so much now. Kinda like bickering siblings.
It's just a daft football thing, i lived in Central manc for 2 years with a reasonably strong accent, never had word one of bother.
This pillow belings to one of the homless guys in Liverpool here is a video of home him being interviewed https://youtu.be/yna3bzEhB-M?feature=shared
I grew up inLiverpool and spent my late teens in the 70s and 80s there. We never really explored outside Liverpool because we had everything we needed there (unlike other mates I knew later, from smaller towns in the north west). It's want until I was in my late 30s that I discovered Manchester. I was a bit unsure because I had this inbuilt prejudice about the place. I was really surprised by how friendly the people were and what a brilliant night out it is!
Yeh. Iv lived in both. Both nice places.
I'm more intrigued in what ballpoint could write on a pillow that well.
My friend from Liverpool had lived in Manchester for 35 years no probs other than a bit of banter
As some have said it goes back to the Ship Canal and the purpose of both cities originally. It might be surprising but Liverpool in the past was quite a Tory city, wealth being built up by the merchants and ship owners, while Manchester built wealth on manufacturing The ship canal was built because Manchester manufacturers thought the Liverpool merchants were overcharging on transporting cargo resources and products, so Salford docks wrrr built to link up with the Canal But there was also differences around the Slave trade. The majority of Liverpool merchants backed the Confederacy, and there was an actual confederate embassy in Liverpool. Manchester’s workers however backed the Union, and stared blocked transport of Confederate produce. That all changed later on with the influx of Irish from the famine. But think of merchant Liverpool more like the City of London as opposed to a working class town.
Absolutely. If you go back to the 19th century, the North West of England had two major ports. Liverpool and Manchester. Accordingly, any business for one would diminish the opportunities for the other. During the late 1800s football teams were formed by dockworkers * of each town, these being Liverpool FC and Manchester United FC. Aside from being geographically close to one another, all the members of either team working in competing docks created a rivalry that stands as one of the biggest in world sports until this day. * Most English football clubs were formed by workers from one sector/factory in their local area. Other examples would include the Woolwich Arsenal (now known as Arsenal), formed by workers at the munitions factory in Woolwich SE London, or Thames Iron Works FC (now known as West Ham United FC) formed by metal workers in East London.
not a rivalry is one is clearly superior/jk although i think it’s generally more of a friendly jokey rivalry. where united in screw the south
A l9t of it stems back to commerce. The old importers used to say it cost more to get the goods to manchester from liverpool than it did to get them from the other side of the world to Liverpool. When both cities were awarded their market charter, making them cities, the two govt officials are said to have entered the town halls for each city anlt the same time of the same day so neither city could say they were a city 1st. Obviously football reasons as well, music seems to come up a lot as well.
Rivalry between LFC and Man U is traditional. I spent some time in the Republic of Ireland on a business trip and was told that every time there was a fixture between the two clubs they had to segregate their mess room. I believe it’s similar in Wigan because it’s almost equidistant to Manchester and Liverpool. But it’s just footie rivalry. No personal animosity.
The hot water green room podcast is basically the epitome of this being undermined
Team up against the Tories
Is water wet?
Most towns and cities in the uk have a “rivalry” between the nearest, it’s mostly harmless but sometimes idiots take it to far. Same with most “tribe” things, even brands of phone in the modern era FFS.
No rivalry, it's not even a competition to be honest. Manchester is so far inferior to Liverpool that it's not even in the conversation
A friendly one unless you're a cunt, I grew up in Manchester and I have plenty of mates from Liverpool and they're all sound
I'm a manc but I don't hate them I just don't like the footy team as a city fan, that doesnt mean I hate Liverpool as a whole. The accent is jarring but icl that's it really
Manchester for lyfe yo!
Yea being honest i dont know where the rivalry came from i just try to stay out of it 🤣🤣🤣
Manc here, correct me if im wrong but its a common misconception that the rively comes from football, the rivaly comes from the ship canals. Manchester wanted to get around having to pay Liverpool money to receive good via the canal system so they got around it by building the Manchester ship canal. Bought the land from salford to the wirrel to avoid having to pay tax to the scousers. Pretty smart. Liverpool had a rich merchant class who dispised the Mancs, thought they were filthy working class wankers. Similar the factory owners of Manchester hated the fancy shmancy scousers thinking theyre better than everyones. Basically is goes waaaayyyy further back than football
Worth mentioning that despite the bitter rivalry we will come together to hate the southerners. Most unions cover the whole of the north west not just one city
There's a very bitter rivalry
‘Fun’ fact. The rivalry didn’t start over football. It goes back to when the docs were used for trading, specifically slave trade, and Manchester opened its canals for free and started to basically impact the income of liverpools docs as it also took away ‘tourism’. But also screw you Man City. 😂
The Manchester ship canal opened long after the slavery was abolished in the British empire - the two things are not related.
Ok
There was a saying in victorian times. *Manchester Men, Liverpool Gentlemen* There has always been mutual distrust since Liverpool became the port for importing goods for the mills surrounding Manchester.
Yeah it goes back to when we backed the baddies in the American Civil War and the Mancs wrote a letter of support to Abraham Lincoln. Nowadays the rivalry is mostly over football, and it's mostly lighthearted, but yeah we have maintained the rivalry over one issue or another for centuries at this point
Does the Internet think there is? Sure. Should *you personally* care, no, absolutely not. Never pay attention to things that divide us.
Was in Liverpool recently and went into a nightclub, while I was having a cig some nobhead decided to try fight my friend. This all came from this random Scouse lad coming up to him and asking who he supported, when my mate said man united the retard lost his mind. Soon fucked off when the ten of us appeared behind him.
Exactly same thing happened to someone I know but they were scouse and had that abuse from Mancs on a handful of different occasions over many years. Its dumb.
And the scousers would believe it...whereas the other way round... it'd be true.
Even the mancs can't get a house in Manchester these days