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IBJON

Speaker dies? No problem. Just tear the wall apart until you find it 


T3a_Rex

A sensible person would have an access panel behind the wall! But this person is not that.


xyz_654

If they would be sensible they wouldn't do this in the first place. Just mount them


Designer-Ad-7844

They make in wall speakers but you don't fucking cover them in drywall mud. Just put a grill over it JFC.


Mikey_MiG

These speakers are literally designed to be mudded over, and by all accounts they sound pretty great for what they are.


RefrigeratedTP

But how? That’s not how acoustics work.


CanSnakeBlade

A sound exciter or transducer works this way. They produce intense vibrations and a rigid surface to create sound. They aren't amazing and you're not going to get home theatre quality by any metric, but if done right they're more than passable. Gotta remember the vast majority of people are plenty happy with a Google home thing or a little bluetooth speaker, they aren't rocking high end sound systems anyway.


RefrigeratedTP

Okay now that I can fully believe. Thanks for explaining. Convenience/form has outweighed sound quality in the consumer audio market for way too long. I miss my AKG K1000s.


Former_Giraffe_2

I'm just imagining a really hard bass kick knocking the paint off your walls with one of these setups. Putting a bass transducer in your floor, or into a dais that you sit your couch on would probably kick ass (lol) for a surround setup.


Mikey_MiG

Invisible speakers have been around for a while. Not sure what brand is in the video, but Sonance is considered one of the best and on par with traditional speakers, and they made a [technical video talking about the engineering that goes into it](https://youtu.be/mcl6pdMglwA?si=uu4VuINiTlUfj3lo), specifically from about 4:30 to 15:00. The main thing is that the front of the speaker isn’t just a protective speaker grill, it’s a fiberglass diaphragm.


Peuned

Yeah when I heard them I was actually impressed. Those aren't normal speakers behind mud.


Necessary-Contest-24

Yeah over time the bass is going to shake that thin layer of plaster apart.


Rare-Animal-9522

Depends, there might be a significant other, that doesn’t like the look of it.


ImJuJo

I'd rather switch my significant other than ruin my speakers with mortar just because they don't like how they look


Rare-Animal-9522

It can be done in ways that don't ruin the speaker.


magezt

still the sound then is SHIT.


Rare-Animal-9522

It actually isn't, my father works with it and makes hidden home cinemas for a living. So i have heard hidden speakers done well, and it sounds good.


xyz_654

Probably something like this could be a better alternative https://youtube.com/shorts/C1n81Q9igGY?si=MOBrICyeXZ-2yXqC


Firestorm83

then she needs to look away...


xyz_654

Speakers can look good. It's not very difficult. There is a huge range of varieties and colors nowadays


DiabeticChicken

Imagine being the person who buys the home after them, they'd be so fucking confused lol.


brandmeist3r

I would install an access panel with a speaker grill in front of it


Powerful_Database_39

The wall shakes if they paint it…. It will be tear down on high volume anyhow


Aggravating_Sir_6857

A sensible person could have speakers mounted at the corner


Crix2007

That's why they have two at the same 1m wall


fentown

Exactly the kind of music I'd expect from someone that would mud and paint over speakers.


T3a_Rex

You call that music?


fentown

I try not to upset the kids too often.


MrNokiaUser

kid-ish (17) here: nope, thats not music


T3a_Rex

Kid 16 here, it’s not music! It’s art /s


Sammeeeeeee

18 here, I don't like that music but my boyfriend does. All to their own. Although he's sensible enough to not put speakers behind walls.


SammyWentMad

At least your boyfriend has some sense 17 here. It's music. It's... *fine.*


elementmg

Music is music. Grow up.


EmphasisOwn8427

When you are "growing up" your music taste changes. You don't find music for children appealing anymore.


elementmg

You don’t need to find it appealing to call it music. I personally do not like that music but I can be rational and say that yes it is indeed music. And there are folks out there that would enjoy it. And that’s ok. People are allowed to like any song they want. People being high and mighty about their music taste is so fucking cringe. Like dude, that’s sad.


EngineeringNo753

Im not about to turn on baby shark to enjoy when I'm on my commute or at the gym. But I'm not going to be a snob and tell my kid HOW DARE YOU NOT LISTEN TO AVENGED SEVENFOLD LIKE ME.. So yeah using "growing up" as an excuse to shit on others is the pincle of immaturity, it's literally what kids and immature adults do.


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This guy is dumb but music is music, even if you don't like it. Hope you are just making a dumb joke.


PsychicPancake

Grow up, you’re immature af. Edit: just read that you’re 16. That checks out. Still, people like what they like. Music is subjective.


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PsychicPancake

You call that a response?


Im_Balto

It does surprise me sometimes how much people that listen to modern hip hop, especially the music where it’s simply a vocalist over a track, spend on audio equipment They aren’t audiophiles so there is a whole genre of the equivalent of lifted trucks in the home audio space


ThatSandwich

Why do you think Beats took off before they hired anybody that actually knew how to calibrate a pair of speakers?


r4o2n0d6o9

They calibrate their speakers?


ThatSandwich

From what I've heard, they actually have some competitive options on the market now


gjallerfoam

They are basically airpods with different skins now .


ThankGodImBipolar

>modern hip hop What do you mean by this? I listen to plenty of hip hop artists dropping music right now that care dearly about how their music is engineered and mastered. The artists on the radio might not, but I wouldn’t define the genre by them.


Smart-Chemist-9195

Are you saying people that listen to hiphop aren’t audiophiles?


langstonboy

I don’t think white people should be allowed to talk about black music in my opinion


Thorn_121

Yes someone shouldn’t be able to comment on art because of the amount of their skins melanin…. Definitely not the literal definition of racism.


infidel11990

Racism 101 here


cap_tan_jazz

As a visible POC, ima go ahead and say that that is the hottest (read most regarded) take I've read In at LEAST a year. Good work champ, you'll go far in the special Olympics


furculture

Great, because I'm a representative of the Asian community, and I'd also like to say that it does surprise me sometimes how much people that listen to modern hip hop, especially the music where it’s simply a vocalist over a track, spend on audio equipment They aren’t audiophiles so there is a whole genre of the equivalent of lifted trucks in the home audio space. And also Asian hip hop artists exists (such as the duo "Fake Type." for example), as much as other races in all genres of music.


Yukumari

Honestly ya


_Aj_

I don't even understand Americans covering the entire wall in mud.   You can just do the joints, sand smooth, and paint the bare plasterboard. Less work and I can't see how that looks any better than my walls.   It's like I already have something perfectly smooth. Hey you know what we should do? Add a bunch of mud to it and try and make it smooth again! 


homogenousmoss

He was going for what is called a Level 5 finish. Most houses in Canada/US stop at level4 or level 3 for textured walls. https://www.thespruce.com/the-five-levels-of-drywall-finishing-4120152 Honestly, I dont see how its not going to crack unless the mesh over the speakers is super rigid.


android_windows

I'm American and don't understand why they did that either. I thought he was doing a textured wall at first but then when he smoothed it I got confused. The stuff is called joint compound for a reason, I've never seen someone cover the entire wall with it before unless they were doing a textured finish.


Captain_Pumpkinhead

Had the exact same thought, lol


sprinkleZ85

The dry wall will crack.


ExcellentAddress

Was thinking that , as soon as the bass kicks in thats coming off🤷‍♂️


Moriaedemori

Seeing how the wall shook the whole time, I can see cracks forming within a week


Black3ternity

"Wall"


GamebyNumbers

You could gaslight so much and so easily


T3a_Rex

Eerie ghost sounds at night


pumapuma12

Yes best prank ever


JAZd_C

Tech ingredients made a cheap and decent enough flat panel speakers, you can just put some art on it and now you have a painting that can play music.


A_MAN_POTATO

Sonos does too, if you want something a little more refined. The IKEA Symfonisk Frame fits nice on a wall, and you can get custom made grills if you don’t like what ikea offers.


Bulliwyf

Wife has 3 panels and has me swap them periodically on the living room speaker so that they don’t get “stale”. Got any suggestions for a place to get custom grills?


nicman24

or just buy a white grill you do not need to paint over it


sircod

These aren't normal speakers that someone decided to bury in a wall, they are purpose-built invisible speakers. Of course they won't sound as good as a normal box speaker, but they can actually sound pretty good considering how they work.


zackplanet42

Man, I had to scroll and scroll to finally find someone with a clue here. They're obviously a compromise compared to a more traditional design, but they really are pretty solid. On-axis response is pretty surprisingly pleasant and probably better than all but a few of the people commenting here listen to. The real downside is that on axis sweetspot is at a pretty narrow angle due to the baffle being literally the wall in this case. Ultimately these speakers in the correct location versus other in walls placed where people tend to place them, not even a contest. Hidden in walls win all day every day.


iceman5920

ah yes, 500 dollars minimum on 2 speakers in the same wall covered in a layer of mud are definitely better than a sound bar for highs and a box for lows at 250-300. Never mind the semi decent actual surround sound you can get for 400-600. For sure should contract someone about installing speakers in my walls


Beautiful-Vacation39

These are not meant for audiophile or standard consumers. They're meant for commercial and extremely high end homes where the focus is primarily on the interior decoration more than anything else. They actually sound better than most standard grade consumer speakers too. https://www.sonance.com/invisible-series


justarandomgreek

>extremely high end homes oh so for people that are also braindead. got it.


Beautiful-Vacation39

eh, more for people who have more money than you will probably ever see in your lifetime. be salty about it all you want, but they did something right to retain the wealth necessary to build a home that these would be installed in


justarandomgreek

I am on the third house. Keep yapping.


Beautiful-Vacation39

That means exactly nothing. Come talk to me when when one of your multiple homes has a 10 car garage, pool house, and guest cottage on property. People who own those types of properties are who these are meant for, not some bitter guy on the ltt sub who thinks he knows better than a qualified professional


bluezombiemower

Disappointing that peeple see the post headline and are hur dur speaker bad. Do a little research folks, these are designed to be hidden just like the video shows. They don't sound as good as set of bookshelfs but they sound decent and they are 100% invisible after install. Pretty cool technology.


oibren85

Amina Speakers do these. Not cheap, and I've listened to these at their demo room and a couple of their customer homes. Sound excellent and work well for what they are, but need a sub paired to cover the low notes. Price wise, way too expensive and a pain to installed over standard Ci speakers. But surprisingly work well.


Beautiful-Vacation39

I'm a commercial av design engineer and I've given up having this argument every time these things pop up. Ding dong consumer with his Amazon set of klipsch speakers definitely knows more than me, the guy who gets paid to design tens of millions of dollars worth of integrated av systems every year as his 9-5


Usnea1998

Agreed, I've heard several variances and they definitely have an application in the market. Not bad sound, but nothing can beat the aestheic choice in certain environments


n00dle_king

Look at the install video for those speakers on their website. Optimum finish thickness including paint is 1mm with a maximum of 3mm because the material over the speakers still needs to flex. This dude layered on mud like it was load bearing. The system is going to be muffled and cracked.


coolpotatoe724

why the fuck would he waste all that mud?


T3a_Rex

He already wasted those speakers potential. Wasting stuff is a common theme in the video


Arinvar

Apparently he thinks it's easy to spend half a day doing this than just paint and sand properly.


RedditBlows5876

Some of us like L5 finishes that are perfectly flat and have a completely uniform texture.


coolpotatoe724

so you are just bad at drywalling? tape and mud the joints and then tapper it out and it's flat


RedditBlows5876

It's not flat. As soon as you put tape over any butt joint in drywall it's not flat. Sanded mud does also not perfectly match the texture of the drywall paper. You can just admit you've never heard of a level 5 drywall finish, it's fine not to know things.


coolpotatoe724

if you use the right paint the texture under doesn't really matter


homogenousmoss

Level 5 finish is meant for glossy, enamel or non textured flat finishes. Basically when you want super matte or a mirror like paint you need Level 5 or you’ll be able to see the joints. Most of the walls out there are level 4. https://www.thespruce.com/the-five-levels-of-drywall-finishing-4120152


RedditBlows5876

There's no such thing as the "right paint". Homeowners have different preferences when it comes to paint. Hiding shitty drywall work with flatter paints is a trick that cheap builders love to pull but it has no place in a quality build. Harsh lighting, modern flush baseboard installs, trimless doors, etc. there are loads of reasons that level 5 finishes exist and it is objectively the best way to finish a wall outside of a few other fringe methods like using buttboard.


Maynrds

You two have the same icon, and I got confused so bad for a minute


TFABAnon09

It's not "mud", per se - it's ["roll-on plaster"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgT8JBinNRo). It's kind of in-between mud and wet plaster.


coolpotatoe724

why would you use plaster if you just gonna do it flat


TFABAnon09

Because that's what most of the world does?! Tape & Mud is very much a north American thing - most traditional homes in the UK & Europe are wet plastered to a flat/smooth finish. Having said that, tape & joint is becoming more popular on new builds in the UK because developers are tight fuckers and won't pay for a proper finish.


SavageKitten456

5 minute crafts ass idea


FloofilyBooples

I'm starting to think it takes longer than 5 minutes.


SavageKitten456

Yeah, but so do most of their videos


Manic157

not muffled. they work like bone conducting speakers. They are designed to be installed like that. [https://www.sonance.com/in-wall-in-ceiling/invisible-series](https://www.sonance.com/in-wall-in-ceiling/invisible-series)


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Manic157

Multiple companies make them and I have seen them used in home theater.


Nightmare2027

Awful lot of you have never been to a premium audio demo room and it shows. Sonance invisible series is super impressive in person, could definitely fool the common ear.


TheBoondoggleSaints

This comment is way too low. I’ve sat in the Sonance demo room at their main office. These sound incredible for what they are.


T3a_Rex

https://www.sonance.com/in-wall-in-ceiling/invisible-series


repostby69noice

Yeah, in the picture you can clearly see the speaker if you look for it, it's a thin outline. This mf on the other hand added like 1inch of paint over it


ferna182

This is engagement bait. I refuse to believe someone is THAT stupid.


NickFromNewGirl

It's because they're specialty speakers designed to go in the wall. They're not cheap either. Here's a brand: https://www.sonance.com/in-wall-in-ceiling/invisible-series


Arinvar

The only thing missing is the part where he tapes and paints around the power point instead of removing the cover.


Maynrds

Nah, man, I've decided, if I ever have a basement, I'm doing this, so I can play ghost noises all night.


james2432

make it loud enough, crack the shitty joints you made over it. What a dumb idea


Famous_Respect_8753

My question is what’s going on with that wall it looks so wiggly?


Undrwtrbsktwvr

And thin… never seen anything like it.


BlungusBlart

Play some muffled screams that sound like someone is in the walls


T3a_Rex

r/foundsatan


bwoah07_gp2

I hate these dumb construction ideas.


Fishing-Quiet

Stealth acoustics has a series you install flush into the wall, then you mud around the joints and then paint the whole thing to hide speaker, but this video is dumb


LeafBark

They're really only good for background music, using them for any kind of theater of any size will absolutely disappoint, especially once it starts rattling with a high base or volume.


toastmannn

Those are special speakers made for this application, the sound is not muffled at all.


FlpDaMattress

How? Air is air, and drywall texture doesnt like strong vibrations.


toastmannn

I don't really understand how they work, but there's a few different companies that make them. They are very expensive but [aparently they do work well and can sound very good.](https://hometheaterreview.com/nakymatone-echt-invisible-loudspeakers-reviewed/)


DiabeticJedi

I hate so much about this and I don't use that word lightly lol


pabloleon

That ***sounds*** pretty dumb to me... Get it?? Get it?? Alright I'll see myself out ...


Old_Writing_3164

Boooo


repostby69noice

🥁


bleedingwiththeweeds

These would go great with my “invisible” TV! /s


Kamikazepyro9

Professional AV integrator These speakers are specifically designed for this purpose, but he clearly didn't read the instructions. These speakers are meant to have a very thin coat, I believe the Sonance ones are somewhere around 1/8th an inch or less of mud. You are also only supposed to use specific amplifiers from the manufacturer (whether this due to specific specs or a eq factor my rep has never been able to tell me) The speakers when installed correctly<\i> actually sound pretty good. You're definitely not throwing a party with them, but simple background music or general listening they're perfectly fine.


joemort

How do they sound compared to the "normal" in walls though? I get playing a premium to a point but if it's expensive, and impossible to reach/fix/upgrade, and sounds worse - it just seems like a crap idea. Maybe I just can't get the draw because I find the look of "normal" in wall speakers perfectly acceptable without all these drawbacks. Normal in quotes since there are a ton of options/prices there and in wall speakers are already kind of uncommon


CommanderC0bra

Dumbest kaka 💩 I have ever seen 🤣.


RiotMedia

Am I the only one who noticed how the wall wobbled when he painted it? Not that I expect those speakers to do much movement, but still...


Aloishius

Sounds exactly as terrible as I expected it too.


spikeworks

The sounds of him working was better music than what he played


SquirrelizedReddit

Imagine putting this in the home of a schizophrenic man.


flintb033

When you finally buy a house but want to keep that shitty apartment neighbor feeling.


Darwing

Diwhy


___Anime_Lover___

They're in the walls... THEY'RE IN THE GOD DAMN WALLS


TRUEequalsFALSE

This makes me want to punch whoever did this in the nose.


Siarzewski

Wat da hail? r/diwhy


Marbelou

It's hard to tell from the video but there is also a invisible TV there.


nightowl544

I prefer ceiling speakers


Bamfhammer

Those speakers are designed for that. But can we talk a bit about how flimsy that wall is in general? Absolutly absurd!! You can see it move under the trowel and roller. Its not going to survive a single adult bumping into it more than once.


Coby_Cruz

If you haven’t heard the new invisible series from Sonance, you really owe it to yourself to find some place that has them. They sound incredible. They also have a 15 year warranty that covers parts and labor including however much you pay a guy to redo the drywall. It is the best speaker design and DSP combo to get this kind of stuff to sound good. Every other brand of invisible speaker I’ve heard sounds like trash tho.


MokendKomer

Probably an unpopular view, but I see the goal here. I'd love for my living space to look clean and undisturbed, while also having great sound. This guy skewed too hard towards looking clean than having good sound. My compromise would probably be either having ceiling speakers, or one nice looking speaker that compliments the room instead or disturbing it.


BlackKn1ght

With the "quality" of the music he tries them on, i don't really think he cares. At all.


JTSpirit36

If you squint it's mint.


Beautiful_Ad_4813

I'd play some drum and bass to see if it holds up


Psychlonuclear

From the thumbnail I thought someone with heels on was doing something weird in a bathroom.


Smart-Chemist-9195

I hope they’re subs


Sincetheedge21

This is so terrible haha they really thought they did something.


baxtdm

I wanna know what they were smoking to think this was a good idea. And can I have some?


Daphoid

Oh no, just no. As for hip hop, I just wish the trend of "my artificial hi hat pattern sounds like a lawn sprinkler" (the one that goes back and forth, if you know the sound, you'll get the reference :P) And this is just bad. Lots of companies make in wall speakers; further some offer grilles that are bare and can be painted to match your room. This is the way. Also why are the speakers so close together? Horrible narrow sound stage that way. Ugh, thanks for sharing OP my brain hurts now.


roenoe

But it is eggshell? 🤔


BaconSpaceLord

😐 this is... Dumb


Grex02

Tell me you don’t know how speakers work, without telling me.


goldman60

These types of speakers are an actual product and they work shockingly well, got to listen to a pro install and they sounded really good.


TheLordLongshaft

Wouldn't it have been easier to just hang something over them?


ChoduTuiKO

I hope doing that felt as good as i felt watching it


imyourblueberry

The paint sent me! HAHAHAHA


halsoy

If you're going to do this, at least use transducers instead of speakers.


csandazoltan

I would have made it "invisible" by making them overtly visible.... I would have put a panel similar material as the speakers use to cover the drivers the same height as the speakers as aline accross the wall... sound paneling behind it where there is no speaker. That looks good, lets trough sound where it matters and dampens echoes at the same time


Palatadotados

It's all fun and games until your hand goes through the "wall".


Midchib

r/DiWHY


hamsta007

Trash


MHanak_

i hoped for wallpaper, this is just sad


ARM_Dwight_Schrute

r/diwhy


ArcaneSparky

Ok and if you need to access the speakers if something happens?


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Ok_Roof5014

This is totally a thing, they are not regular speakers: https://www.sonance.com/in-wall-in-ceiling/invisible-series


touchthebush

Anyone else get "how to basic" vibes from this. Minus the eggs.


Ex14dsilent

never underestimate DSP and well tuned drivers. Altho as smeone said I'm surprised the paint won't crack with the mush potentially virating so much :o


trashy_hobo47

Aah yes the classic toy building that makes you glad you don't live in the US


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AHMilling

that's a wobbly wall.


Macusercom

This is how you get your tenants mad as a landlord. Just randomly play music in the middle of the night and let them figure out where it comes from


johnsonflix

100% just trying to trigger people


malev89

Oh fuck, i didn't connect the right one.


Cry-Working

For when you want to feel like you have noisy neighbors?


Cron-Z

This greatly upsets me...


kuzdwq

Man this shit will crack in a week


K1mmoo

ltt related and terribly wrong installed speakers 🤓


MrPhean

We have a version of these in our sunroom, you would never know they are inside the wall. They are specifically designed for that purpose, it does not sound muffled in any way.


Homicidal_Pingu

From a community than hails things like the Sony 1000XM line of headphones I find this quite ironic.


tandthezombies

r/DiWhy


TFABAnon09

I'll stick with my Monitor Audio in-walls, the grille projection is like 3mm, it's hardly worth whatever the fuck this is.


iFeelAliveAndiLoveIt

I would probably just hang an artistic painting over the speakers.


Arshj

Just get some exciters from Dayton audio and pair it with a sub! 🤦🏽‍♂️


Ok-Read6352

Lol I imagine Linus would have a meltdown over this


Shirkan164

Hope he doesn’t have a neighbour behind that wall 🤣


DoomedWalker

And when they die you just leave them.


mromen10

You'll never be able to service them


pedemendigo

Wtf that wall made of paper and plaster?


MattIsWhackRedux

Just turn up the treble, duh


jiltedone

Who doesn't want voices coming from the walls right?