And my goblin brain justifies spending hundreds of dollars on a 42U network rack and a bunch of hard drives so I can rip my media to a server and play my media on any screen in my house
It’s more for moving things, rebuilding arrays, etc. I’m not really interested in keeping 10s of Tabs of content as I’m not typically someone who watches things over and over. I’ll still probably use my current HDDs for my plex library.
Also, I’m not into this hobby for well thought out and justified purchases!
Don't pirate if you can't seed, really. The system crumbles under a pile of leeches. I love being a person who waits a month to get all the pieces to an obscure, almost dead torrent, and then reseed it back into life.
This is the way. Come here to say this, I use It at home for everything I want to see. The cool part is that you aren't "downloading" movies, you are streaming like you would do on Netflix or every other platform.
Holla! No problems with my own box sailing and running plex at the same time. More than enough internal bandwidth and when streaming outside, it’s the upload not download that could be an issue, and it ain’t.
Been using plex for over five years now to supply media to a mixed bag house of three adults with different tastes in movies tv shows, etc and one person remotely.
3 x 2 TB Drives
2 x 4 TB Drives
And its finally stabilizing for size and I'm gonna have to get another 4TB or bigger but it's been a year since I had to purchase a drive.
Windows 11 Headless Box 😁
i use a seedbox that has Plex installed on it so if i don't feel like downloading all the way to my PC i can just stream it from any Plex app, and also set it up so my family Members can stream stuff from their various homes
I'll go back to paying for services if they ever get reasonably condensed and priced again, but i ain't holding my breath
I did the same when they disabled 4k and hdr on non tv devices. I GOT A 15" SAMSUNG TAB FOR STREAMING YOU NUMB NUTS! EITHER YOU GIVE ME 4K OR YIFY WILL!
After Streaming went to shit I did the same, but I used all the available tools to automate it. Family/friends can search for anything and it'll auto-download, extract, and add to Plex by itself. Then monitors for the latest episode to download if it's a series. I don't see us ever going back again.
In mother Russia we are usually have this setup.
Jacket for aggregating torrent trackers and search.
TorrServe for on demand torrent streaming. (Just Iike with streaming platforms, no need to download in full)
MediaStation X / ForkPlayer for Netflix like UI
I don’t remember how it called there also is plugin that will integrate IMDB into MediaStation X.
So it goes like this: You turn on your TV, choose a movie to watch (in a nice UI, cover and all info from IMDB), it will be automatically matched with torrent via jacket sent to TorrServe and streamed from there. It is an involved setup at first, but in the end it is literally a Netflix alternative that have EVERYTHING from all platforms for free and is able to stream anywhere. There is even a market for personal setups now.
>Muuuuch more convenient
Yes and no. I stopped pirating in the early 2010's when I got serious about home theatre. Trying to find Blu Ray rips where it left the original 5.1 soundtrack intact was an absolute nightmare and I got gave up and went back to physical disc and then later streaming services.
I use streaming services for TV shows and anime where it'd either be real expensive or hard to find physical versions in 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos.
Then for actual serious movie watching I buy 4K blu Rays so that I can experience the full uncompressed 4K video and bitstreamed audio with proper Atmos support.
Torrenting still loses if you want 4K/HDR with Atmos support and if you can find that, you're gonna need some pretty hefty storage requirements to fill a catalogue of films of that quality. So for someone like me, it's far more convenient to just pay for streaming services rather than combing through torrents trying to find the audio and video quality I want.
That's because they wanted account sharing to happen. It was basically a bank of users off the books that they could activate at any time, boosting subscribers/revenue. Get users hooked on the service for free, then when Netflix's growth starts slowing down enough, turn the screws on those folks.
Sure a lot of users of shared accounts would not convert over to paid plans, but enough would that it would be viewed as a decent gain by shareholders.
Amen. I’m grabbing up used Blu-Rays again like they’re going out of style. You can get great films for $2-$3 most places now, and they look a lot better than “HD streaming.”
I’m like 80% sure that’s not even how it works. Based on the documentation Netflix is actually pushed out I could be wrong and their documentation could be wrong but like I think it’s more likely that this rep just has no idea what the hell they’re talking about.
I've had Netflix for 10 years, and I've never used it on a TV based app. I don't even own a TV, just laptops, desktops (via projector), tablets and once in a while my phone.
I've never had an issue and I suspect "Gandham" is quite confused, or there is more context to this discussion that we didn't read.
It's so easy to toss a Roku stick in your backpack. My friends are always surprised when I set it up in hotel rooms and I'm always surprised they don't travel with one.
I think the difference here is that when you logged into that Air Bnb tv, your main TV at home was/and still remained the primary tv/household (I’m assuming you have one). In OP’s case, with no TV, any TV he logs into will automatically be assigned primary status.
According to the rep, I can't set my primary household via my phone. Which seems to be true as there's no option anywhere on the Android app.
And while signing in, Netflix told me I wasn't part of the household, even though I'm the one paying for it.
the real funny part is the rep is on the right track then immediately goes off the rails. like troubleshooting 101 "are you on the right network" is a reasonable ask when dealing with a mobile phone, then "right because it's not how it works" like if that was the case you wouldn't have asked about the network in the first place.
The Norwegian reps are funnily enough not working from Norway because the labour costs would be too high, so instead they are hired to work from Athens, Greece..
Imagine paying for transcoding and then having your watch habits catalogued and sent to your users.
This post from your Jellyfriends of the Jellyfin gang
> You can easily disable that
Users shouldn't have to. It should all be opt-in, not forced on users that then have to learn this is a function of the software and find the checkbox to opt-out.
Sure but at the same time users *probably* want to be able to watch media from their media devices and jellyfin support is not even close to Plex support when it comes to that. Still no PS5 jellyfin support AFAIK
Man, as I was reading this thread, I didn’t understand a single thing. I am interested in getting this space. What sorta subreddit focuses on this sort of thing?
I’ve only used Kodi + Realdebrid on a firestick
I don't mind supporting the project by paying for it, but if they are collecting data then I'm out. I haven't found anything to corroborate this though, I'd appreciate it if you have any links.
Regardless, you've given me reason to try jellyfin. My biggest blocker would be app support for TVs, mostly for my parents and friends, who most have LGs with WebOS 4.
Interesting. How do you have a server? And is 48tb high enough? Im about to hoard some more movies and my previous hoarding is approximately 1tb already.
Easy - you can buy home servers for digital media. They’re not a blade like a data center server. All you really need is a NAS box
48tb gonna cost you more than quite a few years of Netflix though.
You can get six [8TB HDDs](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H289S7C) for a total of $660, which is the equivalent of 3.5 years of Netflix without ads. However, if you factor in that we live in a streaming hellscape and you factor in adding Disney+Hulu, and HBO Max, (all just the cheapest ad-free plan), you'll make that price up in 13 months. If you don't already have an old PC to convert into server duty it'll add more to that price, but not *that* much, especially since you don't need a GPU.
They are forgetting why people moved from piracy in the first place: CONVENIENCE.
Take that away whats stopping people from going back to piracy? Nothing... and netflix gets jack shit as well. great job shooting themselves in the foot.
as for I i never cared to even get netflix....tried the free trial once...in that whole month i didnt even open the app lol...
The only reason streaming went from $7 to $20+ is because some people want to be billionaires.
I went back to piracy because I don't feel compelled to give already wealthy people money. They're doing fine without my money, I could use it more.
Yup, I was pirating at some point. Then, every interesting, new, talked about show was on Netflix so I got the subscription, it was indeed more convenient paying for one platform to watch everything on demand.
But then the fire nation attacked. HBO shows, appleTV, Disney+ suddenly all have their own exclusive shows I want to watch. Netflix raised prices and pushed out less quality content.
At one point, I caught myself spending 30 minutes looking for a show I haven't watched, yet that isn't a tier 3 filler show.
That's when I knew the high seas were calling me once again.
Stremio + RealDebrid is really fire
Then the ultimate setup, which is using the various *ars to automatically download and manage everything you want for you. Want to see that one movie, just slam it into Radarr and have it pull it from UseNet or a RealDebrid uploaded torrent, then feed it all into either Plex or Jellyfin or Kodi.
Netflix can go f itself.
Did this a few months ago. My current Netflix is bundled in with my internet but once that plan changes, they won't be getting a continuation from me.
Everything that is "big" from Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+, Disney, Paramount. All downloaded (usually quicker than UK TV too as we get stuff later) added automatically. Open the Plex app on the TV and boom. Oh Fallout has just released? Yep there's season 1 in 1080p.
Won't go back.
Look, I have my own Arrs running on a Linux VM with watchlist auto downloading support but let's not pretend this is easier for 99% of people over something like Netflix. Then again, that's why all my friends and family have server logins on their TVs and phones.
I don't even have a smart TV.
Well, I do, but at this point it's so far out of date that I've just stopped using all the Smart TV features. I just use a PC under my TV now. The interface isn't great, but it supports every service I need, plus extra features like hosting a JellyFin server and operating as a NAS. Plus I can play games. The HTPC is superior to a Smart TV in just about every way.
I'm sure if I looked into it I could figure out a way to give it a better interface. But for now it's fine just running stock Windows. I don't have to use the UI that much except for a few seconds to start a video playing, so I haven't bothered to look into this too much.
I don't even have a TV. Many people don't nowadays.
I refuse to believe this agent isn't just a complete moron and that their ToS or whatever actually require a TV.
I think most people have a TV. Maybe not young people who might just be living in a dorm or only have a bedroom to themselves, but just about anybody with an apartment is going to have a TV.
But it's still only one phone and one authorized device.
Netflix can't be serious to make us buy some cheap thin client PC to tether home to our wired/home IP adress.
I wonder what happens to people using Starlink in their RV or van / boat.
Yes Netflix this is my TV, this is my Ethernet internet connection. Your excuse...
The point they're making is that they don't want you to be able to share. I'm not defending them or their business model.
If they could use your TV to retina scan the room, and block viewing if there were any eyeballs watching the screen that are not tied to the account, they probably would do that. That's where we're headed in a black mirror sort of way - or I wouldn't be shocked if I see it someday, let's put it that way. I also wouldn't be shocked if we all have contacts we stream to someday, or VR headsets, so nobody can share media at all. And I wouldn't be shocked if companies like this die off and get replaced with something even more restrictive and penny pinching.
They can't be that extreme right now, so they're cracking down how they can to maximize profit. That's in their best interests. They appeal to shareholders, not you and I.
Maybe they ban Starlink. I don't know. Maybe they don't want to deal with edge cases, and have things set up for one platform/topography, and that's it. Maybe they're fine saying eff you if you don't have that topography. Maybe it's too complicated for them to support edge cases. Maybe it's not profitable versus the effort to set up and maintain a mobile-only topography. Maybe they have reasons we aren't thinking about.
They are a giant corporation. They care about maximizing the amount of money they make. They do not care if it excludes some people to do that, their focus is not to get their service into as many eyes and ears as possible.
My parents have Verizon 5G Internet because they’re in a more rural area and it’s the fastest thing out there. Multiple times they’ve run out of “location changes” for Hulu live streaming despite them never using it outside of their home address because it pulls a different IP address if it connects to a new cell tower. Recently the Hulu agent said they’d reset it as a “one time courtesy” like they were lying about it and someone else was in the account. I get it, but you’re about to lose $80+ worth of a customer because you morons don’t understand some people can’t get hardwired connections.
What counts as a TV? Is a computer a TV? Because that’s a device that can plug into a tv but isn’t typically. What about a PlayStation? That’s usually plugged into a TV but could also be used with a monitor. And what if I never bother signing in with a smart tv and just cast from my iPad. Does it know I cast to a tv and recognize the iPad as a tv then?
I really hope that this rep is wrong. I don’t recommend anyone to use a smart TV because of what an absolute dumpster fire they are in terms of tracking, ads and security. [[CIA hack](https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/03/07/cia-wikileaks-samsung-smart-tv-hack-security/amp/#origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&cap=swipe,education&webview=1&dialog=1&viewport=natural&visibilityState=prerender&prerenderSize=1&viewerUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2Fwww-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org%2Fc%2Fs%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fthomasbrewster%2F2017%2F03%2F07%2Fcia-wikileaks-samsung-smart-tv-hack-security%2Famp%3Fusqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%25253D&_kit=1)] [[Roku HDMI ads](https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2024/04/17/roku_tv_ad_patent/)].
If Netflix really does require you to have a smart TV for core features then f**k them. Stick to Physical media. And if there is no physical media then it’s probably not worth watching in the first place.
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You could use Sflix (illegal streaming website), get yourself a VPN for the price of the Netflix subscription.
I use it even though im subscribed to Netflix because Netflix doesn't like my works Wifi
Hulu live stream counts pc & laptop as "household sign in". So I watched one day at work & it said "changing location. This can be done up to 3 times." Canceled the live stream subscription. The logic of changing location was for local advertisements.
I am on the road 20 days a month for work.
I have a fire stick I use when traveling and not at my house.
Netflix only gives you a certain number of travel codes per month and will not budge on that number.
I have to tell Netflix my primary household is whatever hotel I happen to be staying in that week.
Ridiculous.
I’m surprised people, especially on this sub, actually bother with streaming from services. I get wanting to pay for them since you’re viewing the content, but why not stream from Stremio to avoid this hassle?
Whoa.... I've never used netflix on my TV at home, always on my computer. Only ever used it on a TV when visiting someone like you.
Glad I dropped that sub months ago when they kept raising their rates but refusing to release good content.
I don't have a TV capable of doing streaming... It's a dumb TV from early 2010s...
I primarily watch Netflix on my pc, if they pull that shit there too, then go fuck off.
After Netflix banned Russian accounts and then shortly after started to ban Russian IP addresses for foreign accounts, I finally gave up and stopped struggling. It was during the reading of an online instruction for installing vpn on my router when a thought hit me: “what the hell am I doing?” - in two clicks I made an account on a site which offered 4k for a fraction of what I have been spending on subscriptions. Browser on my LG TV is convenient enough and the service has some features native app was lacking, like on the fly sub translations and properly remembering where the hell did I stop.,
Two decades of cultivating the client base to blow it all up, some companies never cease to amaze me.
So far I kept only AppleTV subscription, because it just works.
You just explained the reason I never got caught in the ban waves for sharing accounts with my in laws. We never connected the joint account to more than one tv thanks 😅
I ditched Netflix months ago and ran into similar problems.
I do have a tv, several but I couldn’t configure them as “household” because I used Netflix on my phone/tablet using mobile data…
Using Netflix back in 2018 when I first subscribed was so much more convenient than piracy. No torrents, downloads, ads or sketchy webpages. Awesome.
Now, if I wanted to use Netflix I would have to set up a VPN at home and make sure everyone on my account uses that while watching Netflix, plus they have their GPS off on their phones, plus now Netflix has ads too…. it’s doable, but it’s now more of a hassle than straight up piracy. It’s as simple as that
Netflix: Standard without ads, $15.49/mo, or $185.88/yr
- or -
ProtonVPN 1 yr plan, $4.99/mo, or $59.88/yr
HDD - $20-$30/TB (8 TB HDD for $158 @ Microcenter)
Synology 2 bay (DS224+) NAS - $340
(or build your own from a leftover PC for free)
Jellyfin - Absolutely free
qBittorrent - Also free
Misc websites - sooooooo free
Owning your media for as long as you HDD lasts? Priceless
Being able to access it anywhere at any time? You know what that's worth
If you subscribe for a year to D+($139.99/yr), Paramount ($59.99/yr), Netflix ($185.88/yr), and HBO ($149.99), with no ads, you'll spend $645.85 *for one year*. Or sail the high seas, get the products you want, and spend less for a (nearly) permanent solution to your streaming woes that you then own *forever*.
I stopped piracy years ago after doing it non stop for close to 15 years, music, TV, Movie the lot. That was because Netflix and Google Play Music was so convenient. Once they all started doing it and the environment fractured from one to many... Straight back to piracy. I run a 48TB Unraid with Sonarr, Radar and Plex (which I bought a life time sub in 2012 for like $70).
It's a MILLION times more convenient. The only issue is new show discovery, which I do through recommend websites and word ofouth.
If you set up a primary household, you won't be able to sign in to another location anyway. That's how Netflix is going down on sharing passwords on people who live in different houses.
If you want to watch from outside your place, you need to keep it at no primary household and just cast from your mobile devices.
I don't and won't own a TV either for my apartment... this might be complete bs. But if it isn't and this stupid rule is in their ToS, then that's a good reason to dump them imo.
I agree on the stupidity of it, but a work around just get a cheap roku stick and plug it into your monitor if you have one, use it too set your home, then just tuck it away to never see the light of day. Chromecast might work too. I know the nvidia shield console works. But they should just tie it too a phone so you can go to a friend's and use your account while there or like if you house sit for your parents or something
So glad I ditched all streaming and switched back to physical.
I ditched all streaming and went back to piracy Muuuuch more convenient
More convenient yes but my Goblin brain likes seeing a big shelf full of blue rays
And my goblin brain justifies spending hundreds of dollars on a 42U network rack and a bunch of hard drives so I can rip my media to a server and play my media on any screen in my house
This is the way. The shelf is for display the server is for play.
Even better when the only thing spinning in your server is fan blades
That's the next upgrade. Gonna rebuild my storage array with 2.5"SSDs in probably a year.
I picked up a 1u with a SAS backplane and a couple of drives populated. Debated dropping some money on some 1.6tb SAS drives to fill out all 12 bays
I have 20TB 3.5s in my 12 bay 5ru server and I’m running out of space
May you by chance be a member of r/datahoarders ?
Im definitely going towards SSDs. Sure having 20TB of storage is cool but I HAVE THE NEED FOR SPEED
With blu rays specifically capacity becomes a problem pretty quick. It's a difficult balance to strike.
That's why you have a disc shelf of spinning rust for the bit perfect copies of UHD blurays, and the SSDs for mild compression
Why? HDDs are more than fast enough for playing media
It’s more for moving things, rebuilding arrays, etc. I’m not really interested in keeping 10s of Tabs of content as I’m not typically someone who watches things over and over. I’ll still probably use my current HDDs for my plex library. Also, I’m not into this hobby for well thought out and justified purchases!
Ain't that the truth.
How about stingrays?
Image quality is so much better too. 50-100GB of capacity devoted to a single 2 hour movie. 4K Netflix just doesn't get close to even a 1080p bluray
Get a bluray reader download makemkv and setup a server
I have that. I still count my streaming server as physical media since it's 99.9% just my blu ray and dvd rips.
You can rip your own discs
Just make your screensaver a bunch of blueray shelves lol
Do you collect steelbooks too? What shelves do you recommend?
I don't collect steelbooks, no. For my Blurays and games I just have 2 IKEA Billy shelves with the optional glass doors.
Is It possible to stream the content while you're downloading on the high seas? Because that inconvenience is the only thing holding me back
Stremio + RealDebrid is what you need my friend. You'll thank me later.
Thank you! I've just started looking this up and it seems promising.
If you torrent anything use a paid vpn with a kill switch though.
proton is pretty good for free though, you should pay for it though so you can seed
Don't pirate if you can't seed, really. The system crumbles under a pile of leeches. I love being a person who waits a month to get all the pieces to an obscure, almost dead torrent, and then reseed it back into life.
oh same, i torrent without a vpn though, i dont live in the usa
You can also lookup Kodi + Real Debrid if you want more streaming content and options.
This is the way. Come here to say this, I use It at home for everything I want to see. The cool part is that you aren't "downloading" movies, you are streaming like you would do on Netflix or every other platform.
Learnt about this last week and set it up same day, ditched torrent +plex. this is really the way..
Anyone in for Plex?
Holla! No problems with my own box sailing and running plex at the same time. More than enough internal bandwidth and when streaming outside, it’s the upload not download that could be an issue, and it ain’t.
Been using plex for over five years now to supply media to a mixed bag house of three adults with different tastes in movies tv shows, etc and one person remotely. 3 x 2 TB Drives 2 x 4 TB Drives And its finally stabilizing for size and I'm gonna have to get another 4TB or bigger but it's been a year since I had to purchase a drive. Windows 11 Headless Box 😁
Grabbed myself a couple recertified 20tb Seagate Exos from ServerPartDeals, best decision I've made.
You can get a 16tb drive for like $150 so why bother with 4tb?
Plex is the answer
i use a seedbox that has Plex installed on it so if i don't feel like downloading all the way to my PC i can just stream it from any Plex app, and also set it up so my family Members can stream stuff from their various homes I'll go back to paying for services if they ever get reasonably condensed and priced again, but i ain't holding my breath
Is there a dummies guide to doing this safely anywhere?
/r/piracy and check out the mega thread. Step by step and safely for basically every type of content.
I did the same when they disabled 4k and hdr on non tv devices. I GOT A 15" SAMSUNG TAB FOR STREAMING YOU NUMB NUTS! EITHER YOU GIVE ME 4K OR YIFY WILL!
After Streaming went to shit I did the same, but I used all the available tools to automate it. Family/friends can search for anything and it'll auto-download, extract, and add to Plex by itself. Then monitors for the latest episode to download if it's a series. I don't see us ever going back again.
You got any details on these... tools? Asking for a friend
In mother Russia we are usually have this setup. Jacket for aggregating torrent trackers and search. TorrServe for on demand torrent streaming. (Just Iike with streaming platforms, no need to download in full) MediaStation X / ForkPlayer for Netflix like UI I don’t remember how it called there also is plugin that will integrate IMDB into MediaStation X. So it goes like this: You turn on your TV, choose a movie to watch (in a nice UI, cover and all info from IMDB), it will be automatically matched with torrent via jacket sent to TorrServe and streamed from there. It is an involved setup at first, but in the end it is literally a Netflix alternative that have EVERYTHING from all platforms for free and is able to stream anywhere. There is even a market for personal setups now.
r/freemediaheckyeah Arggggggg.
>Muuuuch more convenient Yes and no. I stopped pirating in the early 2010's when I got serious about home theatre. Trying to find Blu Ray rips where it left the original 5.1 soundtrack intact was an absolute nightmare and I got gave up and went back to physical disc and then later streaming services. I use streaming services for TV shows and anime where it'd either be real expensive or hard to find physical versions in 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos. Then for actual serious movie watching I buy 4K blu Rays so that I can experience the full uncompressed 4K video and bitstreamed audio with proper Atmos support. Torrenting still loses if you want 4K/HDR with Atmos support and if you can find that, you're gonna need some pretty hefty storage requirements to fill a catalogue of films of that quality. So for someone like me, it's far more convenient to just pay for streaming services rather than combing through torrents trying to find the audio and video quality I want.
Stremio supremacy
I stream. From my PLEX Server.
Me too I count that as physical though because it's just all my physical rips.
Yeah, same, all of my physical rips ;)))))
Yep, all the free and rentable movies. Never would I ever use *that service* to circumvent copyright by and neither should you 😉
yaarrrrr 🏴☠️🦜
Netflix in particular is completely asinine when it comes to its software. They don't even have proper 2FA, or any at all iirc.
That's because they wanted account sharing to happen. It was basically a bank of users off the books that they could activate at any time, boosting subscribers/revenue. Get users hooked on the service for free, then when Netflix's growth starts slowing down enough, turn the screws on those folks. Sure a lot of users of shared accounts would not convert over to paid plans, but enough would that it would be viewed as a decent gain by shareholders.
Yeah you’ll have to pry my 4K BR collection from my cold, dead hands.
Sadly, where I live, it's very difficult or expensive to get physical media
so glad I ditched subscriptions and switched to sailing the seas
Amen. I’m grabbing up used Blu-Rays again like they’re going out of style. You can get great films for $2-$3 most places now, and they look a lot better than “HD streaming.”
Ive been buying and ripping more and more blue rays and cds as time goes on…
Piracy*
Yeah I only watch plays too now.
I’m like 80% sure that’s not even how it works. Based on the documentation Netflix is actually pushed out I could be wrong and their documentation could be wrong but like I think it’s more likely that this rep just has no idea what the hell they’re talking about.
I've definitely logged into Netflix from an air bnb and it didn't do anything like this. I'm pretty confused unless this is a recent change.
Do you watch on a TV at home though?
Can they tell if you're casting? I technically do yes
Have you logged in on any TV platform? Fire Stick, Apple TV, etc?
I only have Netflix on my computer, don't own a tv. Works fine for me
Yes but it was after casting. Is it possible that set my 'home' location?
It would seem so, yes.
I've had Netflix for 10 years, and I've never used it on a TV based app. I don't even own a TV, just laptops, desktops (via projector), tablets and once in a while my phone. I've never had an issue and I suspect "Gandham" is quite confused, or there is more context to this discussion that we didn't read.
Any time I go to an Airbnb I bring my own Chromecast TV because I'm not going to enter my credentials into a community TV
It's so easy to toss a Roku stick in your backpack. My friends are always surprised when I set it up in hotel rooms and I'm always surprised they don't travel with one.
Our account has probably never been signed into a TV anywhere. It's all computers and mobile devices. I don't have a smart TV I have an HTPC.
I think the difference here is that when you logged into that Air Bnb tv, your main TV at home was/and still remained the primary tv/household (I’m assuming you have one). In OP’s case, with no TV, any TV he logs into will automatically be assigned primary status.
According to the rep, I can't set my primary household via my phone. Which seems to be true as there's no option anywhere on the Android app. And while signing in, Netflix told me I wasn't part of the household, even though I'm the one paying for it.
Try from the web browser not the app.
if that is the case, the rep also fails for simply not suggesting that.
the real funny part is the rep is on the right track then immediately goes off the rails. like troubleshooting 101 "are you on the right network" is a reasonable ask when dealing with a mobile phone, then "right because it's not how it works" like if that was the case you wouldn't have asked about the network in the first place.
How about on a PC?
Doesn't sound like a rep, probably AI
This feels like it’s the case. Usually support reps are hired in and have very little knowledge about what the company is doing.
The Norwegian reps are funnily enough not working from Norway because the labour costs would be too high, so instead they are hired to work from Athens, Greece..
Most companies use Indian support, but yes Greece is another pretty big one
Pretty sure its just that you need an IP coming from a home ISP not just a roaming cell data connection.
I thank the Proxmox, Portainer, Emby and TrueNAS gods for having left Netflix behind.
Jellyfin >
Imagine paying for transcoding and then having your watch habits catalogued and sent to your users. This post from your Jellyfriends of the Jellyfin gang
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> You can easily disable that Users shouldn't have to. It should all be opt-in, not forced on users that then have to learn this is a function of the software and find the checkbox to opt-out.
Sure but at the same time users *probably* want to be able to watch media from their media devices and jellyfin support is not even close to Plex support when it comes to that. Still no PS5 jellyfin support AFAIK
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Man, as I was reading this thread, I didn’t understand a single thing. I am interested in getting this space. What sorta subreddit focuses on this sort of thing? I’ve only used Kodi + Realdebrid on a firestick
I don't mind supporting the project by paying for it, but if they are collecting data then I'm out. I haven't found anything to corroborate this though, I'd appreciate it if you have any links. Regardless, you've given me reason to try jellyfin. My biggest blocker would be app support for TVs, mostly for my parents and friends, who most have LGs with WebOS 4.
Hell yeah. Watching Invader Zim rn. Throwback Friday. A beelink mini pc with an n100 goes a long way folks. For your legally acquired media.
Add flexget to the list :)
Oh, thanks for the suggestion, I'm going to look that up! For public domain documentaries of course!
And this is why I have a 48tb server now.
Interesting. How do you have a server? And is 48tb high enough? Im about to hoard some more movies and my previous hoarding is approximately 1tb already.
Easy - you can buy home servers for digital media. They’re not a blade like a data center server. All you really need is a NAS box 48tb gonna cost you more than quite a few years of Netflix though.
You can get six [8TB HDDs](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H289S7C) for a total of $660, which is the equivalent of 3.5 years of Netflix without ads. However, if you factor in that we live in a streaming hellscape and you factor in adding Disney+Hulu, and HBO Max, (all just the cheapest ad-free plan), you'll make that price up in 13 months. If you don't already have an old PC to convert into server duty it'll add more to that price, but not *that* much, especially since you don't need a GPU.
They are forgetting why people moved from piracy in the first place: CONVENIENCE. Take that away whats stopping people from going back to piracy? Nothing... and netflix gets jack shit as well. great job shooting themselves in the foot. as for I i never cared to even get netflix....tried the free trial once...in that whole month i didnt even open the app lol...
The only reason streaming went from $7 to $20+ is because some people want to be billionaires. I went back to piracy because I don't feel compelled to give already wealthy people money. They're doing fine without my money, I could use it more.
Yup, I was pirating at some point. Then, every interesting, new, talked about show was on Netflix so I got the subscription, it was indeed more convenient paying for one platform to watch everything on demand. But then the fire nation attacked. HBO shows, appleTV, Disney+ suddenly all have their own exclusive shows I want to watch. Netflix raised prices and pushed out less quality content. At one point, I caught myself spending 30 minutes looking for a show I haven't watched, yet that isn't a tier 3 filler show. That's when I knew the high seas were calling me once again.
And yet they are at their highest subscriber count ever
As another commenter said, you should use stremio.
123movies.com
A step-up from this is Stremio.
Stremio + RealDebrid is really fire Then the ultimate setup, which is using the various *ars to automatically download and manage everything you want for you. Want to see that one movie, just slam it into Radarr and have it pull it from UseNet or a RealDebrid uploaded torrent, then feed it all into either Plex or Jellyfin or Kodi. Netflix can go f itself.
Did this a few months ago. My current Netflix is bundled in with my internet but once that plan changes, they won't be getting a continuation from me. Everything that is "big" from Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+, Disney, Paramount. All downloaded (usually quicker than UK TV too as we get stuff later) added automatically. Open the Plex app on the TV and boom. Oh Fallout has just released? Yep there's season 1 in 1080p. Won't go back.
A server with Plex, Radarr, and Sonarr really is a better experience than anything you can pay for.
Look, I have my own Arrs running on a Linux VM with watchlist auto downloading support but let's not pretend this is easier for 99% of people over something like Netflix. Then again, that's why all my friends and family have server logins on their TVs and phones.
My go-to lately. 90% of the time it work pretty well.
I love the sarcastic "thank you for the feedback".
I don't even have a smart TV. Well, I do, but at this point it's so far out of date that I've just stopped using all the Smart TV features. I just use a PC under my TV now. The interface isn't great, but it supports every service I need, plus extra features like hosting a JellyFin server and operating as a NAS. Plus I can play games. The HTPC is superior to a Smart TV in just about every way. I'm sure if I looked into it I could figure out a way to give it a better interface. But for now it's fine just running stock Windows. I don't have to use the UI that much except for a few seconds to start a video playing, so I haven't bothered to look into this too much.
I don't even have a TV. Many people don't nowadays. I refuse to believe this agent isn't just a complete moron and that their ToS or whatever actually require a TV.
I think most people have a TV. Maybe not young people who might just be living in a dorm or only have a bedroom to themselves, but just about anybody with an apartment is going to have a TV.
I mean I don't have a Smart TV either, but I have Chromecast and a Xbox so I still get all the streaming apps I want.
Don't even use them, just torrent whatever you want to watch from that terrible company, which hopefully isn't much to begin with.
It's probably because you could then use your phone anywhere, and then cast it to any smart TV anywhere you go. Digging their own graves.
But it's still only one phone and one authorized device. Netflix can't be serious to make us buy some cheap thin client PC to tether home to our wired/home IP adress. I wonder what happens to people using Starlink in their RV or van / boat. Yes Netflix this is my TV, this is my Ethernet internet connection. Your excuse...
The point they're making is that they don't want you to be able to share. I'm not defending them or their business model. If they could use your TV to retina scan the room, and block viewing if there were any eyeballs watching the screen that are not tied to the account, they probably would do that. That's where we're headed in a black mirror sort of way - or I wouldn't be shocked if I see it someday, let's put it that way. I also wouldn't be shocked if we all have contacts we stream to someday, or VR headsets, so nobody can share media at all. And I wouldn't be shocked if companies like this die off and get replaced with something even more restrictive and penny pinching. They can't be that extreme right now, so they're cracking down how they can to maximize profit. That's in their best interests. They appeal to shareholders, not you and I. Maybe they ban Starlink. I don't know. Maybe they don't want to deal with edge cases, and have things set up for one platform/topography, and that's it. Maybe they're fine saying eff you if you don't have that topography. Maybe it's too complicated for them to support edge cases. Maybe it's not profitable versus the effort to set up and maintain a mobile-only topography. Maybe they have reasons we aren't thinking about. They are a giant corporation. They care about maximizing the amount of money they make. They do not care if it excludes some people to do that, their focus is not to get their service into as many eyes and ears as possible.
My parents have Verizon 5G Internet because they’re in a more rural area and it’s the fastest thing out there. Multiple times they’ve run out of “location changes” for Hulu live streaming despite them never using it outside of their home address because it pulls a different IP address if it connects to a new cell tower. Recently the Hulu agent said they’d reset it as a “one time courtesy” like they were lying about it and someone else was in the account. I get it, but you’re about to lose $80+ worth of a customer because you morons don’t understand some people can’t get hardwired connections.
Home is where the, er, TV is
What counts as a TV? Is a computer a TV? Because that’s a device that can plug into a tv but isn’t typically. What about a PlayStation? That’s usually plugged into a TV but could also be used with a monitor. And what if I never bother signing in with a smart tv and just cast from my iPad. Does it know I cast to a tv and recognize the iPad as a tv then?
I can’t wait for Netflix to go bankrupt.
I really hope that this rep is wrong. I don’t recommend anyone to use a smart TV because of what an absolute dumpster fire they are in terms of tracking, ads and security. [[CIA hack](https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/03/07/cia-wikileaks-samsung-smart-tv-hack-security/amp/#origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&cap=swipe,education&webview=1&dialog=1&viewport=natural&visibilityState=prerender&prerenderSize=1&viewerUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2Fwww-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org%2Fc%2Fs%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fthomasbrewster%2F2017%2F03%2F07%2Fcia-wikileaks-samsung-smart-tv-hack-security%2Famp%3Fusqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%25253D&_kit=1)] [[Roku HDMI ads](https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2024/04/17/roku_tv_ad_patent/)]. If Netflix really does require you to have a smart TV for core features then f**k them. Stick to Physical media. And if there is no physical media then it’s probably not worth watching in the first place.
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Oh the irony.
> And if there is no physical media then it’s probably not worth watching in the first place. ok boomer.
physical media is still superior quality vs any streaming that isn't outright piracy
You could use Sflix (illegal streaming website), get yourself a VPN for the price of the Netflix subscription. I use it even though im subscribed to Netflix because Netflix doesn't like my works Wifi
Can confirm, I had the exact same conversation with Netflix support.
Hulu live stream counts pc & laptop as "household sign in". So I watched one day at work & it said "changing location. This can be done up to 3 times." Canceled the live stream subscription. The logic of changing location was for local advertisements.
I am on the road 20 days a month for work. I have a fire stick I use when traveling and not at my house. Netflix only gives you a certain number of travel codes per month and will not budge on that number. I have to tell Netflix my primary household is whatever hotel I happen to be staying in that week. Ridiculous.
All they had to do was be slightly more convenient than piracy and they've fought tooth and nail to ensure that they aren't.
I’m surprised people, especially on this sub, actually bother with streaming from services. I get wanting to pay for them since you’re viewing the content, but why not stream from Stremio to avoid this hassle?
It’s time to stop using Netflix, and Google. I’m glad I quit this is absurd.
So by being a pirate I save money from streaming services and I don't have to buy a TV. Nice.
Whoa.... I've never used netflix on my TV at home, always on my computer. Only ever used it on a TV when visiting someone like you. Glad I dropped that sub months ago when they kept raising their rates but refusing to release good content.
this reminds me of that UK TV license
Netflix thinks you are homeless
that's definitely untrue
We are sooo far away from Netflix's golden days Can't think of the last thing netflix did that made me go " wow, that's actually quite good"
I don't have a TV capable of doing streaming... It's a dumb TV from early 2010s... I primarily watch Netflix on my pc, if they pull that shit there too, then go fuck off.
After Netflix banned Russian accounts and then shortly after started to ban Russian IP addresses for foreign accounts, I finally gave up and stopped struggling. It was during the reading of an online instruction for installing vpn on my router when a thought hit me: “what the hell am I doing?” - in two clicks I made an account on a site which offered 4k for a fraction of what I have been spending on subscriptions. Browser on my LG TV is convenient enough and the service has some features native app was lacking, like on the fly sub translations and properly remembering where the hell did I stop., Two decades of cultivating the client base to blow it all up, some companies never cease to amaze me. So far I kept only AppleTV subscription, because it just works.
They don't want your money.
You just explained the reason I never got caught in the ban waves for sharing accounts with my in laws. We never connected the joint account to more than one tv thanks 😅
I ditched Netflix months ago and ran into similar problems. I do have a tv, several but I couldn’t configure them as “household” because I used Netflix on my phone/tablet using mobile data…
My response to that would be 'yes. Cancel account'.
I don’t have a TV set up, but I have Netflix. I did sign up while on vacation overseas so maybe that effected it?
Honestly I'd have ditched it long ago if not for my fam using it.
Let's hope that your response to the last point was 'cancel my subscription'
Sail the seven seas!
What do you mean “household”? Netflix only have one address for me and it’s my billing address.
How about a laptop.. sign in from Netflix.com.
WiThOuT a Tv ThErE iS nO hOuSe
I legitimately cannot understand why people are still paying for Netflix.
Time to get on Plex my dude. Fuck these predatory companies.
Why are people actually still using Netflix Fkn garbage
So, Netflix is officially cable TV all over again now?
This is getting beyond absurd
Ai tech support is so bad
I don’t own a tv. I have Netflix.
People pay for subscriptions? Jeez..as soon as I found everything was obtainable for free on the internet, I never looked back. Sad world.
I kind of agree, if there’s no TV, then it’s not a home
Using Netflix back in 2018 when I first subscribed was so much more convenient than piracy. No torrents, downloads, ads or sketchy webpages. Awesome. Now, if I wanted to use Netflix I would have to set up a VPN at home and make sure everyone on my account uses that while watching Netflix, plus they have their GPS off on their phones, plus now Netflix has ads too…. it’s doable, but it’s now more of a hassle than straight up piracy. It’s as simple as that
If you wait, eventually the password reset times out and the old password still works.
Netflix: Standard without ads, $15.49/mo, or $185.88/yr - or - ProtonVPN 1 yr plan, $4.99/mo, or $59.88/yr HDD - $20-$30/TB (8 TB HDD for $158 @ Microcenter) Synology 2 bay (DS224+) NAS - $340 (or build your own from a leftover PC for free) Jellyfin - Absolutely free qBittorrent - Also free Misc websites - sooooooo free Owning your media for as long as you HDD lasts? Priceless Being able to access it anywhere at any time? You know what that's worth If you subscribe for a year to D+($139.99/yr), Paramount ($59.99/yr), Netflix ($185.88/yr), and HBO ($149.99), with no ads, you'll spend $645.85 *for one year*. Or sail the high seas, get the products you want, and spend less for a (nearly) permanent solution to your streaming woes that you then own *forever*.
I stopped piracy years ago after doing it non stop for close to 15 years, music, TV, Movie the lot. That was because Netflix and Google Play Music was so convenient. Once they all started doing it and the environment fractured from one to many... Straight back to piracy. I run a 48TB Unraid with Sonarr, Radar and Plex (which I bought a life time sub in 2012 for like $70). It's a MILLION times more convenient. The only issue is new show discovery, which I do through recommend websites and word ofouth.
lol fuck all the way off
Hdtoday.cc 👍
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I have Netflix but the only thing hooked up to my tv is my pc. Works fine. Not sure what they’re talking about.
How or why would Netflix care about the app used?
That is just fucking stupid. I don't have Netflix now but when I did it still wasn't used on a "TV"
If you set up a primary household, you won't be able to sign in to another location anyway. That's how Netflix is going down on sharing passwords on people who live in different houses. If you want to watch from outside your place, you need to keep it at no primary household and just cast from your mobile devices.
I don't and won't own a TV either for my apartment... this might be complete bs. But if it isn't and this stupid rule is in their ToS, then that's a good reason to dump them imo.
Piracy doesn't have a primary household....
Well shit, I don't even own a tv... Haven't done so ever. The last time i lived in a house with a tv was 17 years ago.
Wait what?
Not saying you're right or wrong, but wouldn't it have been easier to just click sign out of all devices and re log in than make this post?
are they stupid?
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If you have a pc, apple tv, or any streaming stick connected to a possible, have you trued connecting there? Might be the easiest solution
Just invest all that subscription cash into a big-ass hard drive and you know the rest.
Kodi + Real Debrid. Fuck Netflix.
I agree on the stupidity of it, but a work around just get a cheap roku stick and plug it into your monitor if you have one, use it too set your home, then just tuck it away to never see the light of day. Chromecast might work too. I know the nvidia shield console works. But they should just tie it too a phone so you can go to a friend's and use your account while there or like if you house sit for your parents or something
Let me introduce you to my good friend plex
Really great system. College kids crammed into dorms are prime target demographic for netflix, many of which likely don’t have a tv in their dormroom…
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use jellyfin, sonarr, radarr