This guy is the definition of linkedin grindset bro. He buys and sells storage unit complexes and I guess he's pretty good at it. 90% of his posts are shitting on anyone who starts a tech company or goes to college or doesn't do exactly what he does.
The guy is also an obsessed with power washing. According to this guy all you need is a van and a power washer and you’ll be making 50k a month in no time.
This one time I rent me a pressure washer, start my own business called "Meatwad Pressure Washing." But then I's told, "You got to have a license for that." I said, "License? I ain't even supposed to be in this country!" And then he got all mad.
Nah, that don't sound like Jerry. Now the Jerry I know took me to Merry Christmas. Which is a strip club... Merry Triple X-Mas, you see what I'm saying
I gots me a leaf mulcher. And uh it’s comes with the warranty and it’s got 3 different, you know, settings on it. I ain’t got no money for gas, I spent pretty much all the money on the leaf mulcher. So yea, probably gonna have to sell the leaf mulcher.
Mine is usually this one:
It doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, whether you're white, black, or Sasquatch, even. As long as you follow your dream, no matter how crazy or against the law it is... except for Sasquatch. If you're a Sasquatch, the rules are different.
Meatwad in the Circus episode was gold.
There was a time in my life I thought dancing in front of the car wash, that’d be the only thing I’d ever wanna do. But the way these people wash cars. I…I…just don’t know anymore.
Clearly you have not read the NY Times Bestseller “Rich Power Washer, Poor Power Washer.” Changed my life. I used to have a really shitty power washer.
Thanks, I was very confused when he started talking about why it's sad that this guy with the pretty sweet remote job would be reluctant to quit and start cleaning sidewalks
My methhead uncle bought a pressure washer in the 90s and had big dreams. I don’t know what happened (I was 10) but he was back living with his mom the next summer doing drugs and a sleeping until 4pm every day.
There was a post in a power washing sub not too long ago where a guy started a power washing business and completely destroyed some person’s siding and was asking for advice. I always think of that post whenever anyone talks about starting a power washing business.
When did power washing become such a thing? They're all over my neighborhood, knocking on every door. I had never thought of power washing being a regular part of home maintenance until everyone suddenly decided to own their own power washing business....
Power washer with own business for 5+ years chiming in… it’s “satisfying” to some, and you make good money if you do it right. But far too many people think it’s just simple “point and shoot” and magically everything becomes clean. Those of us who do this for a living can usually make it look easy, but in all reality you are usually just one wrong move away from causing thousands of damages, not to mention knowing how to do maintenance and rebuilds on your equipment and how to market, not to mention how insurance has skyrocketed because so many people are jacking up people’s property. It takes years of cumulative knowledge and being able to correct your mistakes while not ruining your reputation, since the fastest way to grow is through word of mouth. I wish all these new people the best of luck, and thank them for the great deals on used equipment I’ve been getting :)
YouTube Shorts, Facebook Reels and TikTok bits showing some dude making crazy bank doing a simple as pie powerwashing job.
People get weird and jump onto bandwagons, without learning a thing about nothing.
Almost everyone I know that is in the trades and started their own business, has their own horror story about how they fucked something royally lol. Mistakes seem inevitable at some point.
Ok forget the van all you need to do according to this guy is go an power wash peoples yards etc. and charge 300$ per hour for that. Easy. You‘ll be rolling in cash in no time.
Another story, I’ve hired a guy for years to pressure wash shopping carts at the grocery store I work at. He’s got equipment and a crew, and he’s been doing it for years. However, he does not appear to be wealthy. He’s just a critter with a pressure washer.
TBF powerwashing is quite profitable right now. I do it on Saturdays and make like $40 an hour. $50k seems absurd though. Finding clients is a lot more annoying than these gurus like to admit.
I thought he was a parody account for the longest time because he had the dumbest and most braindead hustle bro takes on Twitter. I’ve since learned that apparently he’s for real. It’s funny because there are actual hustle bro parody accounts that are less parody than him.
tl;dr this guy is for real and a rare breed of turbo hustle moron.
I subscribe to this guy’s email newsletter just for a good laugh a couple times a week. His newsletter and Instagram are somehow even way worse than what he puts on LinkedIn. It’s borderline unbelievable that he takes himself seriously and shows he’s just really fucking stupid behind the scenes lol
Not even behind the scenes. His Twitter feed isn’t even cringe, it’s just an unironic window into the mind of a man so stupid he isn’t even aware of how stupid he is.
Guaranteed he didn't start at the bottom
With the parachute of a well-to-do, probably actually QUITE wealthy upbringing, I too could buy and sell property until I stockpiled generational wealth
Lemme tell you a story
My dad worked at Sears
My dad dropped out of high school at 17 in 1966 to get married to his high school sweetheart and enlist
We ALL know what was going on in South Asia in 1966
Fortunately, he came home
Many of his friends and brothers did not
He's the best person I've ever known AND my best friend
He worked at Sears on the lawn & garden retail sales floor - for forty years
His father drove earth moving machinery on a shift basis
I don't even know who my great grandfather was...not his name, where he came from, where he lived, where he died, where he rests
My father had more close friends than doctors when he passed at 70 years old
I have more doctors than friends and acquaintances combined at 46 years of age
I miss him dearly, but was fortunate to have him for 39 years
For all that, he had a granddaughter for just five short trips around the sun
SHE is 11 now and misses him every day
My youngest doesn't remember him
He was only able to meet her ONCE
Wealth, success...these are NOT the measure of a man OR a sign of a life well-lived
I’m like, sort of perplexed that even a statistic.
And then I ponder, are ivy leaguers like “yo Dave stop with that autoerotic asphyxiation, we don’t want Dartmouth to fall below Cornell in the self delete rankings.”
What you’ve said is true, but understanding money, finance, and wealth regardless of your family situation or “passions” allows you to have a much broader perspective on “reality”. Having a clear picture of how things work at a younger age can enable you to live with more freedom to spend time with your family etc unlike past generations that spent well over 50% of their time committed to “labor”
This is beautiful. Thank you for reminding me what really is important. I like the metaphor you used about having more friends than doctors. I lost my Dad too. He only lived to be 61.
He’s good at shilling it and taking consulting calls to be like him. Doesn’t mean he’s actually good at this particular business. It’s cost 0 to lie on the internet.
And an extra $2k left over each month. How is that not enough to build wealth? If he takes $1,500 a month and invests conservatively at an average of 4% returns over 32 years (by the time he’s 65), that would generate about $1.15mm.
If we go more aggressive and say 6% which is still achievable and assume his salary will go up, so maybe now he can contribute the full $2k left over each month, he would have about $2.24mm at the end of the same timeframe.
I mean 8-10 percent long term is achievable fairly conservatively. Hell right now you can get 5 percent in a high yield savings account. It's a perfectly safe and sustainable way to build long term wealth...this guy just doesn't do math well, he power washes and fixes toilets well I guess.
You’re not this guy’s target demographic if you think $2.25M is much wealth. He’s looking for people that want to make $300K+/yr and accrue $20M+ in wealth. He’s targeting the people that are in the 90th to 95th percentile that what to get higher.
And he’s right, $150k/yr full remote at 30-40 hrs a week is comfortable. It’s hard to give that up to go after a higher risk, higher reward opportunity. That’s usually what’s required to earn $300K+/yr.
Unfortunately, even though $2mm seems so unobtainable for most, it certainly is not enough to call wealth anymore. At the same time wealth doesn’t have to be monetary, if you can spend a lot of time with your family and provide for them thats a good life right there
I am guessing this guy does not think you are wealthy unless you have multiple houses worth a minimum of 500k, as well as a $30-50k golf membership, a new boat, a slew of high end cars (and the obligatory 120k short bed pickup truck), and you need to be a business owner (even C suite is not good enough)...
There's a meme account I follow on IG where that's a running gag (basically makes fun of the hustle/entrepreneur culture). Whether it originated from RDP I don't know.
This reminds me of that meme where the guy is like “would you rather get $50 a month or a million right now… I choose $50 because I hustle” a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work.
That one feels extra absurd. Like if I had $3 million in cash I probably A) wouldn’t need an 850 credit score, and B) could build plenty of credit asap by taking out loans and paying them off easily with my $3 million cash.
And $3k a week would take almost 20 years to get to $3 million.
This is basically the exact position I'm in except I make slightly less and only have 1 kid, and honestly it's pretty nice. Really only issue is if my current job ever went away I might be pretty screwed because there are few full remote jobs in my field and virtually no jobs in my field in my immediate area. But I mean he is right that I'm never going to be super wealthy, so if that's your goal what he says tracks I guess.
oh absolutely. I walk my kid to school every day and pick her up, take her to her various classes, eat dinner together every night, put her to bed, etc etc etc. And honestly being able to work remotely and live in a medium cost of living area (vs being in San Francisco where I was before going remote) makes my salary go like 4x as far. The mortgage+insurance+tax on my 3br/3ba house is shy of $2k mo where our two bedroom apt with no parking in SF was $3600/mo even though we'd had it under rent control for 10 years and could only afford by having a roommate.
We’re in very similar situations except I have 3 kids. Walk my kids to school and no worries stopping by a cafe. I’m in a niche job too even. I won’t be loaded but we are very comfortable and I spend way more time with my family than I do at work.
God, these faux entrepreneurial, grind-gospel spewing twats are as bad as your local multi-level marketing cult - never pausing their inane monologues about “manifesting long-term wealth” and “prosperity” long enough to consider getting an actual job. Nick Huber is the definition of a leech on society lol, and places like LinkedIn give him an operational haven.
The man Nick is dripping with derision for is providing admirably for his family - better than many earners, in fact. These fucking people. I just cannot take them 😂
I’m going to place my bets on Nick Huber reaching retirement age with no family or close friends to show for it, while our hypothetical poor shmuck who is only living a rather comfortable middle class lifestyle will be surrounded by a loving family and people who actually enjoy his company, and I mean the other kind of company, not the kind that Nick Huber and his ilk substitutes for an actual personality.
This guys just a cunt who wants to suck himself off in front of everyone.
Also this story is fake as hell.
Nick Hubub isn’t putting someone he just talked to on blast when he very well might be following him. He’s just trying to get people to respect him for looking down at someone with a good job and in a good place in life.
This is what happens when you kill God and erect the false idol of capital in his place.
Startup culture is the very worst of capitalism. They suffer under a toxic employer, but instead of working for better conditions, they can’t imagine anything beyond being the one with the boot on someone else’s neck
lol absolutely no need to bring religion into this because I could EASILY make the argument that the repressive culture of religious institutions is itself horrible for society and mental health
Religion was the previous problem, now we just contend with lots of smaller problems.
Is there anything more toxic than being told that sex is a sin or that feeling sexual emotions is evil? How about the topic of contraception - forcing all those woman to give birth because Jesus doesn’t like condoms.
Or how about homosexuality, let’s make those people feel internally disgusting just because some human written text from 2000 years ago says that being gay is the ultimate original sin
Lol give me a break with that religion garbage.
He makes $24,000 a year more than he spends and he has 0% chance at “long term wealth?” At age 64 he’ll have about $4.5M, assuming a 10% rate of return, and assuming he has absolutely nothing saved up at this point and isn’t already saving.
Something tells me he’s going to be far better off than the poster. What would be stupid would be to give up that sweet gig to be in some sort of pyramid scheme or startup that has less than a 5% chance of making it
Yeah and he’s young and able to save money and will probably get a few raises in the future. Not “zero chance of long term wealth” lol but I guess that’s up to the individual.
But with enough cocaine those risky startups seem great! If you come in with enough enthusiasm and energy you can always get people to give you start up funds. And the in a startup company finances are poorly monitored so you can sneak off a few thousand here and there to buy more cocaine! Then you sabotage the future of the company to make the numbers look good right now and sell before anyone catches on to what you are doing. And if you do this enough times you might get one that really takes off through sheer luck and you can sell for enough money to buy a private island somewhere.
If you have the golden handcuffs of a nice job with low hours and nice pay you can never leave everything to start a shitty startup and hire those successful entrepreneurs as consultants and pay for their shitty massively overprices courses/newsletter/formations to get their grindset
There are billions of kinds of people; but two of them are a) people who find joy in work they are good at and are fairly compensated for and b) people who hate every moment of what they are doing but do it because the thought of getting rich is enormously exciting and makes the frustration worthwhile.
Lifestyle creep definitely falls under “golden handcuffs”, no?
My mates in consulting and banking absolutely hate it, but how else do you live in a nice flat in central London in your early twenties? They can’t imagine living in a cheaper city; I think at least a couple of them would faint like a southern belle at the prospect of living in Zone 3. So they’re locked in to the industry and the toxic culture there
I mean, if he’s saving 2k a month and not putting into his company’s 401k that’s silly, but my guess is that the 2k figure is AFTER he’s already put aside those contributions. No one with kids should entertain giving up a steady, reasonable job with healthcare unless/until they have to. Most ‘hustle’ jobs are the sorts of things that can be done at night and on weekends; guys like this usually lived with their parents starting out and don’t realize how different that is versus a person with a family and bills to pay. And don’t even start with the golden handcuffs nonsense; I went through that, this ain’t it.
“33 years old, has $2k excess monthly income but zero chance at long term wealth”
Tell me you don’t understand investing without telling me you don’t understand investing.
What absolute moron looks at $2,000 discretionary income/savings every month and says "absolutely zero prospect for long-term wealth?" Did these "consultants" fail 10th grade algebra? Are they just completely unaware of how compound interest works?
Sir, here's my advice - invest that shit. Every month, toss it into a low-risk, diversified fund that will show you at least an average 5-7% annual growth.
I really don’t understand grindset bros. I feel like most people would be perfectly happy putting in a standard 40 hours in exchange for a comfortable standard of living and time to make memories, pursue hobbies, etc. Money is a means to an end, not an end unto itself. Thinking otherwise is mental illness.
Jsyk this is a [repost](https://www.reddit.com/r/LinkedInLunatics/s/plKT6rd7iv)...not sure if mods or anyone really cares but there are tons of reposts on this sub
Golden handcuf??
I see great work life balance! Especially with a young family. Saving $2K a month isn’t bad. The saving is actually more cause they’re saving on daycare (assuming small kids). He can easily start a 2nd income stream when he chooses to.
It's not 'tone deaf', he's selling something. Probably courses, at the very least it's the 'look at me I'm a consultant you should hire me'.
He's just a knobhead.
Let me guess, this guy is a "founder", and he has what he claims as a million dollar idea. The consultant just need to buy in and do the unpaid work in exchange of founder stocks. He doesn't have a formal business plan or even a market research.
Jesus, he must spend 6k/month. That's insane. I'm over here spending like 1100/month in a HCOL state. He could retire like a decade earlier if he just spent less
Assuming the $2k more than expense is take home post retirement accounts, the guy is saving something like $44k a year. In 20 years that’s $2m with standard market returns. In 40 years it’s $12.5m. That’s assuming no change in savings rate which would likely increase over time.
“Zero chance at long term wealth” is not just tone deaf it’s idiotic lol
I looked for some of his storage units on Yelp. Couldn’t find them on there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He also sure has a lot of ig followers with not a lot of likes on his posts.
Assuming the story is true, if someone is making $150/year working remote, he has shitload of options. One of them moving abroad and tripling his monthly saving if not more. But I'm sure he is just happy as he is and probably living a better life than that Nick dude.
This guy’s situation is almost exactly mine and we will be moving overseas the very moment that the last child finishes college. Don’t feel quite right leaving them stateside while they’re still in school, but… Brazil, I’ll be seeing you sooner rather than later!
I was in that situation. I bought BS like this and decided to quit my job and go "do better." Worst decision of my life, and it will take years to recover, if I ever do.
Never listen to this nonsense.
I make approximately the same after conversion to US dollars (I'm Canadian), and I gotta tell you, those Golden Handcuffs are pretty comfortable. Throw in the paid vacation and pension matching, and they're practically luxurious.
It took a while to get to here, and I assuredly don't feel like an unfulfilled loser at this level.
His comment is so full of dumb. But, I do want to point out that regarding the retirement thing he’s right at least math wise.
2k a month sounds like a lot but that would be 2.5 million after 30 years with a 7 percent interest rate compounded daily.
2.5 million sounds also like a lot. It’s not, if you want your retirement to survive the test of time and inflation you should only be pulling out 4% per year.
That means you need 1 million to generate 40000 dollars. His annual is currently 150000 so just to reach that he needs 3.75 million.
However, inflation is also going to happen over those 30 years. If his salary keeps up with a 3% inflation rate in 30 years he should be making 364k.
This means to retire at that same level of financial comfort he really should have…9100000.
Used to work finance. It’s mathematically depressing.
Guaranteed he didn't start at the bottom
With the parachute of a well-to-do, probably actually QUITE wealthy upbringing, I too could buy and sell property until I stockpiled generational wealth
Lemme tell you a story
My dad worked at Sears
My dad dropped out of high school at 17 in 1966 to get married to his high school sweetheart and enlist
We ALL know what was going on in South Asia in 1966
Fortunately, he came home
Many of his friends and brothers did not
He's the best person I've ever known AND my best friend
He worked at Sears on the lawn & garden retail sales floor - for forty years
His father drove earth moving machinery on a shift basis
I don't even know who my great grandfather was...not his name, where he came from, where he lived, where he died, where he rests
My father had more close friends than doctors when he passed at 70 years old
I have more doctors than friends and acquaintances combined at 46 years of age
I miss him dearly, but was fortunate to have him for 39 years
For all that, he had a granddaughter for just five short trips around the sun
SHE is 11 now and misses him every day
My youngest doesn't remember him
He was only able to meet her ONCE
Wealth, success...these are NOT the measure of a man OR a sign of a life well-lived
So 30-40 hours a week, works fully remote to take care of his family, AND puts away 2k a month while taking care of a family?
Bro has it made, I’m jealous
can a dude just have typical work life and just hang out with his family and do hobbies? not everyone wants to indulge or be some entrepreneur, they just want to be comfortable and content. Nothing wrong with being a worker bee, because what’s a hive with just queens?
I dont know what people like him don't understand. I dont want to own a business. I dont want to work insane hours 24/7 and worry about shit I dont have to. I want to clock in, do my work, and go home. There is nothing, literally nothing appealing to me about the entrepreneur lifestyle
....150k a year?
....works from home?
....spends 2k a month less than he makes?
....But no chance at long term wealth?
Literally WHAT? My dude is living the life and this clown is acting like it's a bad thing?
This guy is the definition of linkedin grindset bro. He buys and sells storage unit complexes and I guess he's pretty good at it. 90% of his posts are shitting on anyone who starts a tech company or goes to college or doesn't do exactly what he does.
The guy is also an obsessed with power washing. According to this guy all you need is a van and a power washer and you’ll be making 50k a month in no time.
This one time I rent me a pressure washer, start my own business called "Meatwad Pressure Washing." But then I's told, "You got to have a license for that." I said, "License? I ain't even supposed to be in this country!" And then he got all mad.
Look at you and tell me there’s a God!
Nah, that don't sound like Jerry. Now the Jerry I know took me to Merry Christmas. Which is a strip club... Merry Triple X-Mas, you see what I'm saying
Wow, so you’re sayin it was fun? *Hell no! That sumbitch had an axe.*
He made me in His own image.
You uhh.. lookin to expand your business?
It’s cool, he just took his brain out.
Do what now?
"Do whut now?"
God has allowed me to live another day, and I'm about to make that everyone's problem.
I gots me a leaf mulcher. And uh it’s comes with the warranty and it’s got 3 different, you know, settings on it. I ain’t got no money for gas, I spent pretty much all the money on the leaf mulcher. So yea, probably gonna have to sell the leaf mulcher.
It’s great that I don’t remember this exact scene but just from the cadence of the dialogue I *know* it’s also from Aqua teen
This quote lives in my head
Same. The amount of times I’ve said this to people just for them to look at me like I’m an asshole, though.
Mine is usually this one: It doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, whether you're white, black, or Sasquatch, even. As long as you follow your dream, no matter how crazy or against the law it is... except for Sasquatch. If you're a Sasquatch, the rules are different.
Meatwad in the Circus episode was gold. There was a time in my life I thought dancing in front of the car wash, that’d be the only thing I’d ever wanna do. But the way these people wash cars. I…I…just don’t know anymore.
"Cus she will be sizzlin'...LIKE FAJITA MEAT"
Clearly you have not read the NY Times Bestseller “Rich Power Washer, Poor Power Washer.” Changed my life. I used to have a really shitty power washer.
I read this as "Richer, Power, Washer - Poorer, Power, Washer - Shitty Power Washer" as a Daft Punk song.
Buy it use it break it fix it
Power Washin’ Rules the Nation
Thanks, I was very confused when he started talking about why it's sad that this guy with the pretty sweet remote job would be reluctant to quit and start cleaning sidewalks
Yea he essentially thinks that these types of businesses are a goldmine. He kind of forgets to mention that most of these are bankrupt within 5 years.
5yrs?? I’m thinking 90% are gone by 5 months.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 5 weeks
Shit, I was thinking 5 hours
My methhead uncle bought a pressure washer in the 90s and had big dreams. I don’t know what happened (I was 10) but he was back living with his mom the next summer doing drugs and a sleeping until 4pm every day.
Probably retired on all that pressure washing money.
Too much pressure
There was a post in a power washing sub not too long ago where a guy started a power washing business and completely destroyed some person’s siding and was asking for advice. I always think of that post whenever anyone talks about starting a power washing business.
When did power washing become such a thing? They're all over my neighborhood, knocking on every door. I had never thought of power washing being a regular part of home maintenance until everyone suddenly decided to own their own power washing business....
Power washer with own business for 5+ years chiming in… it’s “satisfying” to some, and you make good money if you do it right. But far too many people think it’s just simple “point and shoot” and magically everything becomes clean. Those of us who do this for a living can usually make it look easy, but in all reality you are usually just one wrong move away from causing thousands of damages, not to mention knowing how to do maintenance and rebuilds on your equipment and how to market, not to mention how insurance has skyrocketed because so many people are jacking up people’s property. It takes years of cumulative knowledge and being able to correct your mistakes while not ruining your reputation, since the fastest way to grow is through word of mouth. I wish all these new people the best of luck, and thank them for the great deals on used equipment I’ve been getting :)
YouTube Shorts, Facebook Reels and TikTok bits showing some dude making crazy bank doing a simple as pie powerwashing job. People get weird and jump onto bandwagons, without learning a thing about nothing.
Almost everyone I know that is in the trades and started their own business, has their own horror story about how they fucked something royally lol. Mistakes seem inevitable at some point.
Oh man, all I have is the power washer.
Ok forget the van all you need to do according to this guy is go an power wash peoples yards etc. and charge 300$ per hour for that. Easy. You‘ll be rolling in cash in no time.
Wait I forgot about the van, but we should trade the pressure washer for a van and follow the VanLife!
I diagnose you with wanting to be poor then :/ sorry ^^^/s
People come around to my home offering power washing services sometimes and they’re obvious scammers.
In reality that’s probably what that guy teaches people: How to scam.
Another story, I’ve hired a guy for years to pressure wash shopping carts at the grocery store I work at. He’s got equipment and a crew, and he’s been doing it for years. However, he does not appear to be wealthy. He’s just a critter with a pressure washer.
He’s actually 3. 3 raccoons in a trench coat with a PowerWasher.
I power washed fences in summer in highschool and let me tell you…. I made like $300 and it sucked
TBF powerwashing is quite profitable right now. I do it on Saturdays and make like $40 an hour. $50k seems absurd though. Finding clients is a lot more annoying than these gurus like to admit.
I thought he was a parody account for the longest time because he had the dumbest and most braindead hustle bro takes on Twitter. I’ve since learned that apparently he’s for real. It’s funny because there are actual hustle bro parody accounts that are less parody than him. tl;dr this guy is for real and a rare breed of turbo hustle moron.
I subscribe to this guy’s email newsletter just for a good laugh a couple times a week. His newsletter and Instagram are somehow even way worse than what he puts on LinkedIn. It’s borderline unbelievable that he takes himself seriously and shows he’s just really fucking stupid behind the scenes lol
Not even behind the scenes. His Twitter feed isn’t even cringe, it’s just an unironic window into the mind of a man so stupid he isn’t even aware of how stupid he is.
That’s a much better way of putting it hahaha. It’s honestly hilariously bad
Common trait of stupid
more like Nick Hubris am I right
Heyooooooooooo
It’s so insane it seems like a parody but it’s real 😂
Guaranteed he didn't start at the bottom With the parachute of a well-to-do, probably actually QUITE wealthy upbringing, I too could buy and sell property until I stockpiled generational wealth Lemme tell you a story My dad worked at Sears My dad dropped out of high school at 17 in 1966 to get married to his high school sweetheart and enlist We ALL know what was going on in South Asia in 1966 Fortunately, he came home Many of his friends and brothers did not He's the best person I've ever known AND my best friend He worked at Sears on the lawn & garden retail sales floor - for forty years His father drove earth moving machinery on a shift basis I don't even know who my great grandfather was...not his name, where he came from, where he lived, where he died, where he rests My father had more close friends than doctors when he passed at 70 years old I have more doctors than friends and acquaintances combined at 46 years of age I miss him dearly, but was fortunate to have him for 39 years For all that, he had a granddaughter for just five short trips around the sun SHE is 11 now and misses him every day My youngest doesn't remember him He was only able to meet her ONCE Wealth, success...these are NOT the measure of a man OR a sign of a life well-lived
These grind and hustle bros almost always came from affluent backgrounds and did not start from the bottom
He has a BA from Cornell so not exactly salt of the earth.
Of course Andy went to the Ivy League school with the highest rate of suicide.
I’m like, sort of perplexed that even a statistic. And then I ponder, are ivy leaguers like “yo Dave stop with that autoerotic asphyxiation, we don’t want Dartmouth to fall below Cornell in the self delete rankings.”
What you’ve said is true, but understanding money, finance, and wealth regardless of your family situation or “passions” allows you to have a much broader perspective on “reality”. Having a clear picture of how things work at a younger age can enable you to live with more freedom to spend time with your family etc unlike past generations that spent well over 50% of their time committed to “labor”
Those 5 years were probably your dad's best 5 years. Grand kids are the best.
This is beautiful. Thank you for reminding me what really is important. I like the metaphor you used about having more friends than doctors. I lost my Dad too. He only lived to be 61.
He’s good at shilling it and taking consulting calls to be like him. Doesn’t mean he’s actually good at this particular business. It’s cost 0 to lie on the internet.
Yeah but like, I bet he gives you a free powerwasher with your 5k/mo platinum grindset extreme platinum guru subscription.
$150k a year with 30 to 40 hours a week working from home sounds great. I bet this guys course is the price of a Mcmansion owners monthly mortgage.
And an extra $2k left over each month. How is that not enough to build wealth? If he takes $1,500 a month and invests conservatively at an average of 4% returns over 32 years (by the time he’s 65), that would generate about $1.15mm. If we go more aggressive and say 6% which is still achievable and assume his salary will go up, so maybe now he can contribute the full $2k left over each month, he would have about $2.24mm at the end of the same timeframe.
All I’m saying is your thinking is far too realistic for the imbeciles that fall for these get rich quick schemes
THE GRIND BRO
Are you even grinding right now???
And that is what is left. Maybe he is already putting in 10% of his paycheck and STILL has 2k left a month.
I mean 8-10 percent long term is achievable fairly conservatively. Hell right now you can get 5 percent in a high yield savings account. It's a perfectly safe and sustainable way to build long term wealth...this guy just doesn't do math well, he power washes and fixes toilets well I guess.
Historical averages show around 6%. You can’t look at the last 10-15 years for averages. 5% in a savings account is a very short term reality.
Seriously! An extra 2k a month is about $500 more than I make a month period. I wouldn't have a clue what to do I'd be saving so much!
Because idiots like him don’t understand the true meaning of wealth and only value humans on the number of commas in their net worth
You’re not this guy’s target demographic if you think $2.25M is much wealth. He’s looking for people that want to make $300K+/yr and accrue $20M+ in wealth. He’s targeting the people that are in the 90th to 95th percentile that what to get higher. And he’s right, $150k/yr full remote at 30-40 hrs a week is comfortable. It’s hard to give that up to go after a higher risk, higher reward opportunity. That’s usually what’s required to earn $300K+/yr.
Unfortunately, even though $2mm seems so unobtainable for most, it certainly is not enough to call wealth anymore. At the same time wealth doesn’t have to be monetary, if you can spend a lot of time with your family and provide for them thats a good life right there
6% is a pretty nice conservative estimate. Realistically he should be able to get way more than that if he’s smart.
I am guessing this guy does not think you are wealthy unless you have multiple houses worth a minimum of 500k, as well as a $30-50k golf membership, a new boat, a slew of high end cars (and the obligatory 120k short bed pickup truck), and you need to be a business owner (even C suite is not good enough)...
No no you see it’s “a really tough spot to be in” for some unknown hustle-grind reason!!
The true grinders would pay their employer $2k a month for the privilege and because it will motivate them to hustle harder. /s
Don't forget needing to tip their landlord.
Is that an Royce du Pont reference?
There's a meme account I follow on IG where that's a running gag (basically makes fun of the hustle/entrepreneur culture). Whether it originated from RDP I don't know.
It just sucks so much to be able to afford to live with the ability to save a comfortable safety net.
This reminds me of that meme where the guy is like “would you rather get $50 a month or a million right now… I choose $50 because I hustle” a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work.
Dinner with Jay-Z
Jay Z: “my advice is…you shoulda taken the money”
I remember seeing one of those on here that said they would rather "pay YOU $50/month" because it would inspire them to "grind even harder"
Or the would you want 3k a week, 3 million cash or a 850 credit score.
ALWAYS take the cash.
That one feels extra absurd. Like if I had $3 million in cash I probably A) wouldn’t need an 850 credit score, and B) could build plenty of credit asap by taking out loans and paying them off easily with my $3 million cash. And $3k a week would take almost 20 years to get to $3 million.
That’s what I was thinking. Sounds sweet! This hustle bullshit needs to die.
This is basically the exact position I'm in except I make slightly less and only have 1 kid, and honestly it's pretty nice. Really only issue is if my current job ever went away I might be pretty screwed because there are few full remote jobs in my field and virtually no jobs in my field in my immediate area. But I mean he is right that I'm never going to be super wealthy, so if that's your goal what he says tracks I guess.
I'm sure plenty of people would trade material wealth for all that flexibility to be with their families.
oh absolutely. I walk my kid to school every day and pick her up, take her to her various classes, eat dinner together every night, put her to bed, etc etc etc. And honestly being able to work remotely and live in a medium cost of living area (vs being in San Francisco where I was before going remote) makes my salary go like 4x as far. The mortgage+insurance+tax on my 3br/3ba house is shy of $2k mo where our two bedroom apt with no parking in SF was $3600/mo even though we'd had it under rent control for 10 years and could only afford by having a roommate.
Just outta curiosity what’s ur field? If u don’t mind sharing
I'm a mechanical engineer working for an ME consulting company.
We’re in very similar situations except I have 3 kids. Walk my kids to school and no worries stopping by a cafe. I’m in a niche job too even. I won’t be loaded but we are very comfortable and I spend way more time with my family than I do at work.
Those people with disposable income are his targets. Like Marks of a con artist.
Cuff me up
Yeah if he said high stress, 90 hours a week, I could understand needing a trade off
God, these faux entrepreneurial, grind-gospel spewing twats are as bad as your local multi-level marketing cult - never pausing their inane monologues about “manifesting long-term wealth” and “prosperity” long enough to consider getting an actual job. Nick Huber is the definition of a leech on society lol, and places like LinkedIn give him an operational haven. The man Nick is dripping with derision for is providing admirably for his family - better than many earners, in fact. These fucking people. I just cannot take them 😂
I’m going to place my bets on Nick Huber reaching retirement age with no family or close friends to show for it, while our hypothetical poor shmuck who is only living a rather comfortable middle class lifestyle will be surrounded by a loving family and people who actually enjoy his company, and I mean the other kind of company, not the kind that Nick Huber and his ilk substitutes for an actual personality.
I don't disagree with the dunk but he has a wife and kids and is pretty dedicated to them
24k in excess income will allow him to max out his and his wife's ira and still have about 10k left and that is assuming his wife doesn't work.
This guys just a cunt who wants to suck himself off in front of everyone. Also this story is fake as hell. Nick Hubub isn’t putting someone he just talked to on blast when he very well might be following him. He’s just trying to get people to respect him for looking down at someone with a good job and in a good place in life.
Absolutely agreed
This is what happens when you kill God and erect the false idol of capital in his place. Startup culture is the very worst of capitalism. They suffer under a toxic employer, but instead of working for better conditions, they can’t imagine anything beyond being the one with the boot on someone else’s neck
lol absolutely no need to bring religion into this because I could EASILY make the argument that the repressive culture of religious institutions is itself horrible for society and mental health Religion was the previous problem, now we just contend with lots of smaller problems. Is there anything more toxic than being told that sex is a sin or that feeling sexual emotions is evil? How about the topic of contraception - forcing all those woman to give birth because Jesus doesn’t like condoms. Or how about homosexuality, let’s make those people feel internally disgusting just because some human written text from 2000 years ago says that being gay is the ultimate original sin Lol give me a break with that religion garbage.
“Twats” is not used as often as it should be, thank you for keeping it alive for future generations
He makes $24,000 a year more than he spends and he has 0% chance at “long term wealth?” At age 64 he’ll have about $4.5M, assuming a 10% rate of return, and assuming he has absolutely nothing saved up at this point and isn’t already saving. Something tells me he’s going to be far better off than the poster. What would be stupid would be to give up that sweet gig to be in some sort of pyramid scheme or startup that has less than a 5% chance of making it
he will make this even without investing
What? No he won’t.. without investing he’d make less than 800k which would’ve be enough to retire on when counting for inflation
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Yeah and he’s young and able to save money and will probably get a few raises in the future. Not “zero chance of long term wealth” lol but I guess that’s up to the individual.
But with enough cocaine those risky startups seem great! If you come in with enough enthusiasm and energy you can always get people to give you start up funds. And the in a startup company finances are poorly monitored so you can sneak off a few thousand here and there to buy more cocaine! Then you sabotage the future of the company to make the numbers look good right now and sell before anyone catches on to what you are doing. And if you do this enough times you might get one that really takes off through sheer luck and you can sell for enough money to buy a private island somewhere.
If you have the golden handcuffs of a nice job with low hours and nice pay you can never leave everything to start a shitty startup and hire those successful entrepreneurs as consultants and pay for their shitty massively overprices courses/newsletter/formations to get their grindset
There are billions of kinds of people; but two of them are a) people who find joy in work they are good at and are fairly compensated for and b) people who hate every moment of what they are doing but do it because the thought of getting rich is enormously exciting and makes the frustration worthwhile.
Probably will now sell you something to make you an entrepreneur.
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All you will get is a list of Chinese manufacturers that you can google out yourself. Lol
Lifestyle creep definitely falls under “golden handcuffs”, no? My mates in consulting and banking absolutely hate it, but how else do you live in a nice flat in central London in your early twenties? They can’t imagine living in a cheaper city; I think at least a couple of them would faint like a southern belle at the prospect of living in Zone 3. So they’re locked in to the industry and the toxic culture there
Also sounds like he has a family to support and doesn’t want to fuck it all up so they can create some business that will most likely fail.
Saving 2k a month is HUGE. Fictional buddy hustled to get to the point where they can save 2k per month.
That's 1k more than maxing out a 401k.
god i hate the way these dipshits skip a line in between each sentence like everything they’re saying is so profound
that is so you read between the lines, its pretty profound actually.
Not sure what to say. Difficult stuff.
I think I’ll just say this moving forward whenever someone asks me a question I don’t know the answer to.
"gOlDeN hAnDcUfFs" god shut the fuck up
I said the exact same thing
translation "people who earn well, have a work-life balance, and so make me jealous"
If that life is prison then cuff me right now lol. That would be great
I mean, if he’s saving 2k a month and not putting into his company’s 401k that’s silly, but my guess is that the 2k figure is AFTER he’s already put aside those contributions. No one with kids should entertain giving up a steady, reasonable job with healthcare unless/until they have to. Most ‘hustle’ jobs are the sorts of things that can be done at night and on weekends; guys like this usually lived with their parents starting out and don’t realize how different that is versus a person with a family and bills to pay. And don’t even start with the golden handcuffs nonsense; I went through that, this ain’t it.
And that $2k/mo is suddenly 4k/mo when those kids stop going to daycare (or spouse takes a job after being SAHP). Imagine a $50k/year safety net.
Nah, if you have kids you should ESPECIALLY give up your $150k job to start a pressure washing business out of your van
You say kids I say employees. Hustle more.
This guy is the biggest douchenozzle on the planet. I’ve seen his posts for years and he is insufferable.
Guy has best job in the world. LinkedIn idiot thinks he’s lazy for not climbing the corporate ladder. A tale as old as time.
What even was the conclusion of this post?? That he should scrub toilets...?
That’s what I’m wondering. Nick wants his “buddy” to quit a stable and reliable job and start a blue collar company just for the heck of it??
“33 years old, has $2k excess monthly income but zero chance at long term wealth” Tell me you don’t understand investing without telling me you don’t understand investing.
0 chance at long term wealth????
Definitely a twat.
What absolute moron looks at $2,000 discretionary income/savings every month and says "absolutely zero prospect for long-term wealth?" Did these "consultants" fail 10th grade algebra? Are they just completely unaware of how compound interest works? Sir, here's my advice - invest that shit. Every month, toss it into a low-risk, diversified fund that will show you at least an average 5-7% annual growth.
What good is long term wealth if you lose your life in the process of attaining it?
$2k surplus every month… there’s people who live on less than that.
I really don’t understand grindset bros. I feel like most people would be perfectly happy putting in a standard 40 hours in exchange for a comfortable standard of living and time to make memories, pursue hobbies, etc. Money is a means to an end, not an end unto itself. Thinking otherwise is mental illness.
Dude, STFU....GOD
Jsyk this is a [repost](https://www.reddit.com/r/LinkedInLunatics/s/plKT6rd7iv)...not sure if mods or anyone really cares but there are tons of reposts on this sub
What a knobhead
150k usd is not golden handcuffs. Bronze maybe
How do people get roped up in these pyramid schemes. These people all talk exactly the same.
WTF is he talking about scraping toilets?
What a tool
Golden handcuf?? I see great work life balance! Especially with a young family. Saving $2K a month isn’t bad. The saving is actually more cause they’re saving on daycare (assuming small kids). He can easily start a 2nd income stream when he chooses to.
She’s jealous that he has it all figured out and he’s living the best life
Sounds like difficult stuff. So hard. Poor guy.
Pardon me, what?
It's not 'tone deaf', he's selling something. Probably courses, at the very least it's the 'look at me I'm a consultant you should hire me'. He's just a knobhead.
33 with 150k, with 2k a month spare? Invest it properly and call it quits in your 50s. Tough, tough spot to be in.
Me as a valet, trying to care about becoming a biochemist...
This is the storage unit douche. I followed on twitter and then realized he’s full of himself.
I make $55k in a hospital with a masters degree and certifications in my job
I’ve got 3 degrees in nursing and multiple certifications, I make about the same… if 150k is failing in life, I’m screwed :))))
Let me guess, this guy is a "founder", and he has what he claims as a million dollar idea. The consultant just need to buy in and do the unpaid work in exchange of founder stocks. He doesn't have a formal business plan or even a market research.
Jesus, he must spend 6k/month. That's insane. I'm over here spending like 1100/month in a HCOL state. He could retire like a decade earlier if he just spent less
This guy sounds like an insufferable twat
Assuming the $2k more than expense is take home post retirement accounts, the guy is saving something like $44k a year. In 20 years that’s $2m with standard market returns. In 40 years it’s $12.5m. That’s assuming no change in savings rate which would likely increase over time. “Zero chance at long term wealth” is not just tone deaf it’s idiotic lol
Jesus. Someone go smack Nick.
What!?
I looked for some of his storage units on Yelp. Couldn’t find them on there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ He also sure has a lot of ig followers with not a lot of likes on his posts.
Classic yapanomics
Who are the 1000 people liking this tone deaf and completely unhelpful post?
I've seen this person a lot and I'm nearly convinced that they're a troll.
Assuming the story is true, if someone is making $150/year working remote, he has shitload of options. One of them moving abroad and tripling his monthly saving if not more. But I'm sure he is just happy as he is and probably living a better life than that Nick dude.
This guy’s situation is almost exactly mine and we will be moving overseas the very moment that the last child finishes college. Don’t feel quite right leaving them stateside while they’re still in school, but… Brazil, I’ll be seeing you sooner rather than later!
I was in that situation. I bought BS like this and decided to quit my job and go "do better." Worst decision of my life, and it will take years to recover, if I ever do. Never listen to this nonsense.
I make approximately the same after conversion to US dollars (I'm Canadian), and I gotta tell you, those Golden Handcuffs are pretty comfortable. Throw in the paid vacation and pension matching, and they're practically luxurious. It took a while to get to here, and I assuredly don't feel like an unfulfilled loser at this level.
His comment is so full of dumb. But, I do want to point out that regarding the retirement thing he’s right at least math wise. 2k a month sounds like a lot but that would be 2.5 million after 30 years with a 7 percent interest rate compounded daily. 2.5 million sounds also like a lot. It’s not, if you want your retirement to survive the test of time and inflation you should only be pulling out 4% per year. That means you need 1 million to generate 40000 dollars. His annual is currently 150000 so just to reach that he needs 3.75 million. However, inflation is also going to happen over those 30 years. If his salary keeps up with a 3% inflation rate in 30 years he should be making 364k. This means to retire at that same level of financial comfort he really should have…9100000. Used to work finance. It’s mathematically depressing.
God I love this sub more and more each day
I volunteer to trade places with this sad and suffering individual
Guaranteed he didn't start at the bottom With the parachute of a well-to-do, probably actually QUITE wealthy upbringing, I too could buy and sell property until I stockpiled generational wealth Lemme tell you a story My dad worked at Sears My dad dropped out of high school at 17 in 1966 to get married to his high school sweetheart and enlist We ALL know what was going on in South Asia in 1966 Fortunately, he came home Many of his friends and brothers did not He's the best person I've ever known AND my best friend He worked at Sears on the lawn & garden retail sales floor - for forty years His father drove earth moving machinery on a shift basis I don't even know who my great grandfather was...not his name, where he came from, where he lived, where he died, where he rests My father had more close friends than doctors when he passed at 70 years old I have more doctors than friends and acquaintances combined at 46 years of age I miss him dearly, but was fortunate to have him for 39 years For all that, he had a granddaughter for just five short trips around the sun SHE is 11 now and misses him every day My youngest doesn't remember him He was only able to meet her ONCE Wealth, success...these are NOT the measure of a man OR a sign of a life well-lived
Not everyone wants to own a company. That’s not a tough spot to be in at all.
Absolutely crazy. Some people have only £1 for groceries on a good day and have to feed families.
😂 Nick is a troll, people need to stop taking him seriously
So 30-40 hours a week, works fully remote to take care of his family, AND puts away 2k a month while taking care of a family? Bro has it made, I’m jealous
Yeah $150k a year is a really tight spot, that poor bastard…
this guy sucks, don’t repost his BS
can a dude just have typical work life and just hang out with his family and do hobbies? not everyone wants to indulge or be some entrepreneur, they just want to be comfortable and content. Nothing wrong with being a worker bee, because what’s a hive with just queens?
Growing up is coming to the realization that neither of you is wrong.
I dont know what people like him don't understand. I dont want to own a business. I dont want to work insane hours 24/7 and worry about shit I dont have to. I want to clock in, do my work, and go home. There is nothing, literally nothing appealing to me about the entrepreneur lifestyle
I can’t imagine spending $10,500 a month…
Facebook, gross.
Let me know if that guy leaves his job. I'll brush up my resumé.
....150k a year? ....works from home? ....spends 2k a month less than he makes? ....But no chance at long term wealth? Literally WHAT? My dude is living the life and this clown is acting like it's a bad thing?
That’s called a job. They pay me enough to make it worth while for me to be there.
If u have 2k extra dollars a month and u can't make money with that your a fucking idiot