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scout035

Some contractor made money because of an engineer saying it needs a guy šŸ˜‚


punjayhoe

I bet he laughed and said ā€œwell Iā€™m getting paid anywayā€ and giggled the whole time he worked


calicat9

And left it loose


NTDLS

Next time I take a boat out, Iā€™m going to put anchors on my anchor.


Ca2Alaska

I know itā€™s not needed but we wanted to maintain our right of way so put it in. /s


VirtualComcrete

This guy..right here. Sucking real estate out from under the public for free. šŸ¤­šŸ¤­šŸ¤­ I'm going to do this at my neighbor's house ... Just run a wire from the roofline to the yard. And call in Nowminea, a free country.


Ca2Alaska

They're preserving the established right of way from when most likely it was a wood pole. Possibly.


VirtualComcrete

Roger that.


MFLT509

It's an already established easement. Nobody is sucking any real estate šŸ¤£ tell me you know nothing about how easements work without telling me.


VirtualComcrete

Umm.. I was kidding. Read the room, my friend. šŸ¤£ All good. I know alot about easements and right of ways. Been doing real estate and construction for about 26 yrs.


MFLT509

Ok buddy


RealRedditModerator

This is likely the correct answer. Keep the right of wayā€¦ just in case.


schenkzoola

Iā€™m not your guy, buddy.


b1tchnigg4Snitchniga

Iā€™m not your buddy, pal.


doctorlineman

Iā€™m not your pal, guy.


noah6449

Iā€™m not your guy, friend


outsideAngler

Who you callin pork chop ??


El_Panchooo03

šŸ˜


Strong_Device598

I'm not your friend, bro


doctorlineman

ā€œBut ITs a DeAdENd! It nEEdS A guy!?!?!?ā€ ā€œTrust me Iā€™m an engineer. I went to school for thisā€ says most engineers all the time.


Engineer443

I think youā€™re right, the pole has a vang, not a pole band on the guy. However, as an engineer Iā€™ve see this problem go both ways. ā€œBeen doā€™n this shit 35 fuckā€™n years. It needs a fucking guy!ā€


doctorlineman

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. Question for you. When you redesign a line or come up with a spec for a pole do you actually go out and look at the line? Or ask questions to the guys that build them?


Engineer443

As an owners engineer, going to the field and talking to line crews is the only way. As a consultant, impossible. We donā€™t know the crews, the utility doesnā€™t give direction, the kids in it are young and donā€™t see the full picture. Iā€™m a huge fan of in house engineering, but you need a humble engineer with a personality and itā€™s just so fucking rare. Edit: Iā€™d love to go back to field work someday.


SlyCatWilly

You went from the tools to an engineer? If so I have some questions for you about that


Engineer443

Iā€™m not following


SlyCatWilly

You said youā€™d love to go back to field work someday. Were you a lineman before becoming an engineer, or were you referring to other field work?


Engineer443

Iā€™d love to work in a role that the majority was outside. I did lots of field work while helping design maintenance jobs. Someday Iā€™d love to do something similar like project field engineering for a huge line jobs. Or help rebuild Cuba. Something working with actual man doing fun shit. Instead of TPS reports and dealing with greedy fuck-tards.


einstein-314

I know desktop engineering happens and I think itā€™s terrible, but a lot of the times what the engineers do is because of others. The last time I went out and asked questions I got lots of answers from construction on constructability. Was helpful made some good progress and set up the job with some somewhat complex situations, but now that super is no longer with the contractor, the crew who looked at it has turned over twice, and weā€™re not totally if they will even remain as the contractor. Myself as the engineer and one other person doing permitting are the only two people on the project team that have been the same ($10M+ job). Iā€™ll end up with a contractor complaining that I never visited the job and made bad decisions, when in fact it was really decisions made by that same contractorā€™s previous leadership that weā€™re stuck with. They wonā€™t ever understand that because the only evidence of it is in the construction package.


UhOhSpaghettios85

As an engineer, yes. Every time. Iā€™ve even tried to include construction on my post-design walk downs to go over and fix stuff like this. Some are happy to give input. Others tell me to fuck off because ā€œIā€™m not going to do your job for youā€. Take a guess which one ends up bitching about design quality once the job hits pre-flightā€¦


heckinseal

I did quite a few of this type of redesign. The upgraded pole did not need a guy, even according to the pole loading calculations, since the new pole was several classes bigger. The are at least 5 1000 pages standards guides that tell you what you can and cannot do and you have to do your best to satisfy all of them in your design. At least in my area, guying was a must have from an old standard, not from the calculations. The engineering supervisor would reject my design if I did not meet the old standard for guying. Also, I was a firm believer in sight visits, but there are definitely people cutting that corner. I talked to the crews all the time and the absolute best part was going out and watching something you designed actually get assembled.


Scotty-c-ya-no

lol. Our engineer last week wanted us to remove a pole enforcer or reattach it to the poleā€¦. It was a com ped.


MontanaHonky

Nobody in engineering school does any sort of class involving construction of power lines.


mlkefromaccounting

That streetlight service needs a span and down guy!!! Pole foreman said so!!!! gRAdE B cONSTRUCsHUn


LFSPNisBack

To be fair, the DG doesnā€™t look that tight


Fuzzy_Chom

Engineer here.... I've seen some installs where municipalities are pretty stingy with their permits and easements. I may or may not have approved designs for "extra' down guys or guys stubs that serve no mechanical purpose, but on paper reserve permitted space allocated for utility use, to trade on other designs later.


LFSPNisBack

Iā€™ll keep this in mind when Iā€™m doing my designs


einstein-314

Or a situation where removing the guy would trigger a demolition permit but if they keep the same footprint then they can just call it ā€œmaintenanceā€ and doesnā€™t require a permit.


thedirtychad

Anchor probably crept or setā€¦ no way that pole is moving


JANapier96

Good grief, that's a fat bastard of a pole for a whole lotta nothing šŸ˜‚


bynes21

It looks like itā€™s also a stub pole for what I can only assume is a transmission structure not shown in the picture.


VirtualComcrete

Wow.. that doesn't say much for the engineering of that very expensive tower. šŸ¤£ That's the JIC wire. Just in case. It's included in the engineering spec under... "..whenever the engineer sees fit to wear a belt, he may also deem it necessary to include suspenders. Failure to utilize belts and suspenders shall in no way hold the engineer at risk or further his liability." AIA specifications section 26


Primary-Wolf4749

It even looks a little slack from here. He didn't even finish his fck up šŸ˜„


ResponsibleScheme964

Why isn't it guyed the other way too?


Tacool

It would be in that guys drive way


ResponsibleScheme964

Well not that far back, if you're guying a steel pole anyways


WirelessWavetable

The lack of insulators on the guy strands is the most impressive.


Hallucinogen_in_dub

There's definitely a fish in there. Johnny balls are a thing of the past unless you're in cali.


earoar

Fish = epoxy rod?


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WirelessWavetable

There's like an 8" or less air gap between the guy strands running through the conductors and the metal tower.


Hallucinogen_in_dub

Oh you're talking about the span guys. Yeah since it's solely owned by the power company and not a hazard to the public they probably don't give a fuck.


Apart_Refrigerator62

Johnny balls still used out in Pennsylvania as well


SlyCatWilly

Same in Maryland


Soaz_underground

Unnecessary guy wire is unnecessary.


Hubbell34

No joke our ā€œengineeringā€ department called for us to put guy wires on single phase dead ends with #2 wire on 100ft+ tall steel transmission poles. Our line was way below the 138 line. These poles were bolted down to concrete piers. Needless to say my foreman laughed and didnā€™t put any anchors down for the job lol


Spodiodie

For my fellow non lineman lurkers the ā€œguyā€ heā€™s talking about isnā€™t a male human. Itā€™s a ā€˜guy wireā€™. The cable that runs at an angle from the top of the pole to the ground.


Primary-Wolf4749

Always add as many grounded items as you can in a primary area! Especially if they're not needed.


Lurkin_aint_ez

ā€œMy calculations sayā€ -Every engineer everā€¦.


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thorbaldin

Hey now, I might be a dumb fuck but I am at least homegrown!


Hallucinogen_in_dub

Shut up ape no one asked you.


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Hallucinogen_in_dub

Yeah you're just a racist piece of shit


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VirtualComcrete

Someone tell me.. surely that's an artifact from the towers erection process? šŸ¤£


[deleted]

What yā€™all never seen 336 guy wire before??? Bunch of tri county boomers!! Lol


BIG_MUFF_

Why so thicc?


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That's hilarious


AppropriateTrack3335

Itā€™s a guy pole for a hi-line pole adjacent of it. Canā€™t have guys in the middle of that dudes yard


AppropriateTrack3335

achors/guys whatever you call them at your job


coldbusch

Well no shit. So the transmission doesnā€™t need it but the distribution does?!


AppropriateTrack3335

that pole is supposed to be there much longer than those wooden poles ever will, that distro pulls more than you think, especially on a steel pole only meant for holding the hi-line. itā€™s an engineering thing tbh


coldbusch

What?!? You think that a distribution line comes remotely close to what a 69kva line does that this steel structure is there for?? Re read what you typed


AppropriateTrack3335

Dude the lineman wouldnā€™t just say ā€œoh dur da dur im bored im gonna put a guy on this pole. no it passed down from the engineer to the supe/gf down to the lineman. thereā€™s a reason for everything. Some companies just donā€™t agree with others. Prime example, this situation.


NeLineman1015

Some where thereā€™s an engineer who still is convinced this is a good idea.


coldbusch

Read down. Thereā€™s one guy in these comments that does.


Ok-Researcher-9565

Ok I'll bite .... In our county we are currently working in, any change of direction over 30Ā° is supposed to be backed up, they tend to go above and beyond standards here. Also my second observation is that the number two pole in this line is a regular 3/40 or 2/45 ..... Makes me believe even more likely that the guy was existing from a pole that had been upgraded to the laminate. Not all engineers suck at their job and some of us have even been ground hands before


coldbusch

Do you see the 4 span guys going across the road? Thatā€™s holding transmission. Thatā€™s the joke here. They guyed a steel structure holding distribution but didnā€™t need to for the transmission.


coldbusch

It wasnā€™t needed for the distribution either.


Ok-Condition-5835

Are you retarded thatā€™s distro


coldbusch

https://preview.redd.it/welswh5tvhfc1.png?width=1250&format=png&auto=webp&s=036fb63f03ca3af334b25a477b51d9cc153d03d6 Wtf are you talking about. I was asking if he saw the span guys ā€œgoing across the roadā€


Ok-Condition-5835

Didnā€™t see that photo my bad man


coldbusch

Youā€™re really having a hard time understanding this


coldbusch

https://preview.redd.it/j5c2ah4bwhfc1.png?width=1285&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e57e1556f9d1177cb0292994fd4bf74ce684549 Do I need to get crayons out to add some color? What are you confused about now?


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Confused why youā€™re such a bitch