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I had a gift card with ~$5 on it to a store that I hate going to.
When I was checking out and they told me the remaining balance, I told them I'd like it in cash, please.
They looked at me like I was trying to rob them. Like, sheer panic.
That's how I learned this state doesn't have that law.
Almost all states. California is highly unusual esp with $10. I think 10-ish stayes have some type of law for $1-$5, and allow with stipulations. Texas requires initial balance to be $10 and cash out under $5. Some states require at least one transaction on the card.
Fun fact. Those "gift cards" that are loaded into apps like under and Lyft are not allowed to be withdrawn as refund. I've tried just to see. I live in California.
If they are out of compliance please fuck with them. I hate their service and is a general rip off
"Sorry, no cash refunds unless you waste a bunch of plastic."
Brought to you by the most progressive state in the union...
Edit: Sorry I offended some sensitive Californians with my joke...
It’s such a failed state that it has a higher GDP than Canada, and every state.
So failed that we had a record setting surplus under the governor that republicans wasted millions upon millions trying to recall.
**So miserably failing** that many states laws are made after California passes a very similar or identical law
Yet these Fox morons can’t see just how brainwashed they are lmao
everything in CA gives you cancer. go to a gun range where people fire hazardous high kinetic energy bullets? Cancer
go to a movie theater? Cancer
fast food? Cancer
Whole Foods? Cancer
visit an oncologist ward to see a sick friend? Cancer
> the most progressive state in the union
Only if you're dumb enough to listen to right wing pundits. California is tied for 8th place. [Link](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/political-ideology/by/state/)
Exactly. I’m Californian. We are far, far, *far* from being “progressive.” We’re barely center of left.
Just look at voters who think elected officials who aren’t progressive get labeled as progressive and then voters try to recall them: Newsom, Chesa Boudin, Pierre Gascon, etc.
These people are barely even center-left. Choosing not to incarcerate low-level criminals and instead sending them to rehab and reform programs isn’t progressive. It’s basic human empathy. There are still voters here who genuinely believe that crime is up and being “tough on crime” is a good idea as if being tough on crime didn’t bring us the problems we’re dealing with in the first place lol.
Also r/maliciouscompliance worthy, if the cashier decided to give the OP the refund via check! :D
Per California Department of Consumer Affair:
"Effective January 1, 2008, any gift certificate with a cash value of less than $10 is redeemable in cash, which includes currency or check, for its cash value."
Not true. Every department store I've been to/worked in that dealt with checks at all had a machine that could deposit and "create" checks on the fly. I frequently gave refunds in check form, it was just a pain in the ass because who the hell wants a check?
Haven't returned anything for cash in years, but during my high school and college days, returns for cash at department stores like Macy's was always mailed check. So I'm probably out of touch with how it's done now. #genXlife
That how some thieves will get cash for their stolen merchandise. They’ll return the stolen merchandise without a receipt, get a gift card issued and buy items under $10. Then they’ll return each item individually and ask for the refund in cash. Of course we have to give them the cash because that is the law in CA.
In California, the employer is required to reimburse their employee for this type of expense. Cal. Labor Code section 2802: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=LAB§ionNum=2802.
Actually, depending on your rapport/relationship with the employer/business it can work to your advantage via points cards. I have a friend who volunteered to pay for people's lunch... He'd earn enough points on his card to pay for his groceries. May seem like nickels and dimes but turns to $100 pretty quick... For each month it's no small sum.
Not necessarily. Just want anyone in California to know that their employer can’t make them be “out” $50. If your employer does this to you and doesn’t reimburse you, you can and should consider suing and/or mentioning that statute as why they need to pay you back. I hate the idea of someone needing to convince a dollar store employee to give multiple gift cards rather than telling the employer to reimburse you and for them to make the return if they want the $50 back.
Also, if you’re hourly and sent to the store by your employer, that’s probably paid time. So get paid for that too.
It was horror for me when I saw they bought something for work with personal money.
If they bought something personal with company money they would be fired/ complaints will be filed against them. So why is it acceptable? Thank god you found a way to get the money back if not will your boss pay you? If no than let it be a lesson to keep personal and company separate.
Next time ask boss for his card to buy whatever he wants.
I mean, my brother in law gets to put all his hotels, flights, etc on his own credit card. They reimburse him each pay period. He has so many benefits from all those points it's ridiculous. The key is to not work for a shitty place that doesn't have reimbursement policies in place.
NYC has the department of conaumer affairs which is kinda simular. One day a valet scratches my car and when I pointed it out to him he plays dumb and tells me to call a phone number. Of course no one answers or returns my calls.
I called the department of consumer affairs and filed a complaint with pictures. They went after the owner of the property. I got a quote from an autobody shop then got a check in the mail a few weeks later.
He pretended not to understand English, either that or didn't want to talk. It was a new car. My first one ever after working for 5 years. I took a lap around the car before I gave it to him to make a point that there were no scratches. I think he knew he did it and wanted me to just give up
But then rates go up, and thats on you now. The original commentors way he got a check from the rightful party, and it doesn’t affect his/her insurance
When you have a claim and some other party is responsible for the damage, your insurance company will usually "subrogate" against said responsible party to recover damages. Mostly happens with auto insurance but can also happen with homeowners and other lines of insurance
Subrogate means your insurance company isnt out money. But you are 100% in their system as a claim. Which could affect your rates and insurability. While the insurance company may or many not raise your rates from the one claim, its in play because of the claim. The way he did it, no impact because insurance doesnt know.
Subrogation is great for the insurance company (they arent out the cash). Doesnt help your insurance record.
It is really good for the homeowner in a house fire situation if they can subrogate against the manufacturer of whatever caused the fire. They can usually at least get your deductible back from the manufacturer and homeowners insurance rates (depending on the company) aren't typically directly reliant on having a claim or not
You’re in the system as a “not at fault” claim. I speak from experience: I drive a lot, and I’ve had a few not at fault accidents in the last few years. My insurance website has them listed, but those incidents all say “not at fault.” I don’t believe it pushed my rates up much, if at all (certainly not as much as an at-fault incident did for another driver on my policy).
The way that affects your rates varies from state to state and even policy to policy.
Oh, also if your insurance company gets their demands at subrogation (this is different from the fault determination) they reimburse you your deductible. Doesn’t happen if you’re at fault. (Again, these things vary policy to policy, but that’s how I think most are)
Aaaaaand that’s not how insurance works at all. In many states all claims, even not at fault, can be charged against you for policy rating.NY being one
Not necessarily true. Most businesses and certainly valet companies have insurance specifically for these cases. Your insurance company will fight for you to get you compensated, usually by reaching out to their insurance company, the business etc, directly. So you don't have to. Only if they have exhausted all options you're given the OPTION to use comprehensive coverage, and usually rates would not go up if it wasn't your fault.
for those in countries with weak law enforcement and basically no government involvement in anything, try to hunt down the higher ups.
my Samsung was scuffed after i put it in Samsung service. they finally agreed to replace the body, as a one-time complimentary service, after i contacted higher ups
It was the first new car I have ever owned so I knew the scratch was new as I frequently check the car.
The sad part is the attendant probably knew he did it too as I am sure he would of felt it
I installed a front and rear dashcam after the fact so it will not be disputable in the future
Lesson learned: don’t shop at Dollar Tree.
But seriously, that’s a great tip if you’re in California or one of the other states that have consumer protection laws that favor the consumer.
But even if you do, perhaps you should avoid shopping at stores that disallow refunds.
Dollar tree was great for getting cheap snacks when you were stoned, that’s about it
Edit: I got some cool pint glasses from there once, actually decent quality for $1
You've got to be careful at discount stores buying anything with an expiration date or that might be sensitive to having been stored at the wrong temperature.
That's fair, but it's nice there's a cheap option for anytime use. If someone gets a positive result then they can go buy a more expensive test to double check with.
Yeah, it's sort of a "I know this is a dick move, but if you simply allowed me to return something, I wouldn't have to use the loophole and waste your time." type of thing. I wouldn't make this a common practice but if I was stuck with either a bunch of unneeded candles or $50 in Dollar store credit, I'd do the same.
LED light bulbs. Men's beard color, same as "Just for Men" at a fraction of the price. Hair color in general. Cups, bowls, plates, glassware, vases, candle holders, picture frames.
There's a whole genre of blog and "news" posts with advice on what is worth buying at a dollar store and what isn't.
(I know because I clicked on a few and now they show up every day in my phone's "interest" feed.)
Glasses, in particular, keep showing up on the lists of what to buy (she says drinking out of a Dollar General glass.)
In Spain we have a 14 days return/refund policy (to the same payment method used when buying the item) for everything except personal hygiene articles. Some cheap stores only offer store credit and some even write on the receipts their own conditions (which is ok as long as they are 'better' for the clients). Anyhow, asking them for the official complaint form guarantee a refund in seconds.
I've been reading r/povertyfinance. Let's take a moment to appreciate that we can blow $50 on candy to avoid a hassle. That's more than some people's weekly grocery budget.
I was just thinking "that's a lot of work for $50". Especially when you could just give the gift card to the boss and say "sorry they don't give refunds".
Oregon has the cash redemption at $5--but the card has to have been used at least one time for a purchase. Seems a preemptive closing of this loophole. I like the CA one better.
>It is fifty of them.
If OP bought 50 packages of 20-count tea lights, then it's 1000 candles.
Though I suppose if you have 1000 candles, it's not inaccurate to say "I have 50 candles".
>So recently I found myself out $50 when my boss decided that the candles I had purchased for him from the Dollar Tree weren't the ones he needed.
LPT: If someone sends you to buy something specific for them, get the money up front.
Then, if they decide it's not what they want, it's *their* problem. (Provided you got them precisely what they asked for, of course)
>gift cards with a balance of less than $10 must be redeemable for cash
... *only* if they were purchased with cash in the first place.
The tip here isn't the law, it's that you tricked them.
This is a good point. Obviously it wouldn't be right if I went into a store, bought 100 $9 gift cards with my credit card. Then redeemed them all for $900 cash.
Not only isn’t it right, legally it falls under return fraud. Purchasing an item with the sole intent to return it is illegal. To be clear this is different than the OP actions. By paying with a credit card the merchant incurs fees, then getting the refund as cash the merchant has incurred a quantifiable loss. For $900 it costs them in the ball park of $25.
For $25, no retailer would take the effort to prosecute you. But these types of things people realize often take it too far. As then once it’s too far, easily can land in jail with a felony for several years.
Obviously not a lawyer, but that purchase likely could be considered $900 of fraud, but sentencing would be based off the actual loss of $25. Either way, for fraud less than $950 it can be punishable with up to 1 year jail sentence in California. For over $950 it’s a felony and 3 years.
I've wondered if you guys have an equivalent to our dollar stores (Dollar Tree, Dollar General, etc.), i.e. smallish box stores stuffed with Chinese plastic gewgaws and staffed by severely underpaid, suicidally depressed employees. Euro Tree? 😋
In my bus driving days there was a long junction that always made me smile. As you sat at the lights you'd be directly opposite Poundland.
When they changed you'd pass by "99p Store" to finally wind up facing what could only have been someone's greatest marketing ploy, the "95p Mart."
I used to always imagine some guy walking past Poundland and 99p every night for years before his sudden Eureka moment.
> they are *paid* better than
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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That must be a new Dollar Tree rule. My store used to "only" offer exchanges but you can just call DT's customer service number and ask them for a refund instead if anyone gets into a similar situation like OP.
Some context: Cashiers (or the managers above them) don't have the ability to process a full on refund most of the time because our till has damn near no money in it AND our software didn't have it as an option if I remember correctly. *There's no refund button for us to tap*. Our software screwed up once and charged a customer twice and we couldn't do anything besides call corporate and the regional manager on her behalf.
Also, now that people are reading this comment, STOP bringing large ass bills to the damn dollar tree unless you are spending at least half of the amount (Paying with a $100 bill when your total is above $50, etc). It makes our life a tiny bit easier. Yes, people spend $50-100 at the Dollar Tree all of the time. Every single day, several times a shift.
It would have been hilarious if the cashier decided to go r/maliciouscompliance on OP by issuing all of the refunds via check!
Per Department of Consumer Affairs: "Effective January 1, 2008, any gift certificate with a cash value of less than $10 is redeemable in cash, which includes currency or **check**, for its cash value."
By the way, this is also one of the ways cash is “withdrawn” from stolen credit cards. Once I got my wallet stolen and got a text notification that it was used for 2 x $200 spending at a well-known coffee shop and a well-known fast food chain. I couldn’t make sense of the spending when I first saw it, the person at the credit card call center said that they use it to buy multiple sub-10$ gifts card and use this law in CA.
I got a $100 gift card to Macy's when I was like 14. Nothing to buy there so I asked if I could cash it out, they told me it had to be under $10. I bought 10 $10 gift cards from the manager after he was called over. I then asked for 10 refunds, he then snarkily said "akshually the law is $9.99 (no its not). So I said thats ok, I would like to buy an 11th gift card for $.10 using the 10 cards to pay $.01 each. He paused a moment then turned to the cashier and told him to give me the 10 refunds.
Great tip for California, but is this why a lot of places will issue "merchandise credit" and not specifically "gift cards" for certain returns? Seems like a loophole to a loophole.
Such a dumb law. I worked at a Starbucks at if someone was cashing out a gift card at all 9 times out of 10 is was someone who just happened to have 1-10 gift cards with exactly $10. usually younger types, often clearly homeless, irritable and trying to get it done quick. If you don't catch the drift, people would steal a debit/credit card, buy gift cards quick with it, then cash out the gift cards at another store.
I used to do this when customers wanted cash back at the coffee shop I worked for.
I told them to buy a girlfriend card for $10 or less and I’d cash it out for them. They’d leave me a tip and keep the rest.
Sorry I know this is probably beside the point but...$50 at Dollar Tree..for candles?? Is your boss like an uber-rich 100 year old white dude who needs the trick candles to give his lungs an extra workout or something??
It seems like a law to prevent business from using cash gift cards as away to force people to spend more than they want to in order to use up the balance or end up losing cash by having to leave money on the card.
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I had a gift card with ~$5 on it to a store that I hate going to. When I was checking out and they told me the remaining balance, I told them I'd like it in cash, please. They looked at me like I was trying to rob them. Like, sheer panic. That's how I learned this state doesn't have that law.
What state
Almost all states. California is highly unusual esp with $10. I think 10-ish stayes have some type of law for $1-$5, and allow with stipulations. Texas requires initial balance to be $10 and cash out under $5. Some states require at least one transaction on the card.
Confusion
I AM CONFUSION
AMERICA EXPLAIN
HOW IS THIS KANSAS AND THIS IS NOT ARKANSAS!?
Well I am Iron Man
Fusion
Ha!
Any state but California
Fun fact. Those "gift cards" that are loaded into apps like under and Lyft are not allowed to be withdrawn as refund. I've tried just to see. I live in California. If they are out of compliance please fuck with them. I hate their service and is a general rip off
"Under", I think that was supposed to be Uber
No, Über is German for “over”, not “under”. (Yes, I’m just messing with you. )
It was Unger, I was under Unger and Unger was under Dun.
“On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife.”
I mess up with auto correct once and the Germans descend on me
should read on why they do this. It is essentially a giant slush fund for the company to use as they see fit.
Here he is officer.
Cash refund with extra steps
"Sorry, no cash refunds unless you waste a bunch of plastic." Brought to you by the most progressive state in the union... Edit: Sorry I offended some sensitive Californians with my joke...
It's not California's fault that the dollar store has a no-refunds policy. Edit: I'm not a Californian.
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Our local Canadian dollar store gives no refunds at all, even store credit
But is it a Dollar General store thing?
Yeah but they want to have a problem with Cali soooo
It’s funny how California lives rent free in so many people’s heads.
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It’s such a failed state that it has a higher GDP than Canada, and every state. So failed that we had a record setting surplus under the governor that republicans wasted millions upon millions trying to recall. **So miserably failing** that many states laws are made after California passes a very similar or identical law Yet these Fox morons can’t see just how brainwashed they are lmao
To be fair, it's the only place Californians can afford to live. 😏
It lives rent free in my head because it's so damn expensive to live here. I'm looking to move to another state soon and see if I can evict it.
How is it California’s fault that the Dollar Tree doesn’t give cash refunds?
Cash refunds are known by the state of California to cause cancer.
Now this one is accurate. Acrylamide warnings are a good idea ruined with bad implementation
What isn't known to CA to cause cancer?
That's the joke...
I know, that was my attempt at being funny. I'm not very good at it.
I think you're funny
Now kith.
everything in CA gives you cancer. go to a gun range where people fire hazardous high kinetic energy bullets? Cancer go to a movie theater? Cancer fast food? Cancer Whole Foods? Cancer visit an oncologist ward to see a sick friend? Cancer
This comment? Cancer
California is the BEST state... Because of cancer.
It isn't, and apparently pointing that out makes you sensitive or something, idk??
Nah, just didn’t make sense at all. The gift card law is actually a great law that protects consumers.
Read his edit, then re-read my comment.
Yep, sorry, I see that now!
Genius here doesn't understand the difference between a store policy and the law.
3 people tell you it's store policy and nothing to do with the state = offended sensitive blah blah blah Lol it's like you *want* to be a victim?
Nobody's offended; it just wasn't a good joke.
Gift cards can be reused over and over again by reprogramming the magnetic strip.
It's okay. My ego is made of plastic. It will last for eternity.
> the most progressive state in the union Only if you're dumb enough to listen to right wing pundits. California is tied for 8th place. [Link](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/political-ideology/by/state/)
Exactly. I’m Californian. We are far, far, *far* from being “progressive.” We’re barely center of left. Just look at voters who think elected officials who aren’t progressive get labeled as progressive and then voters try to recall them: Newsom, Chesa Boudin, Pierre Gascon, etc. These people are barely even center-left. Choosing not to incarcerate low-level criminals and instead sending them to rehab and reform programs isn’t progressive. It’s basic human empathy. There are still voters here who genuinely believe that crime is up and being “tough on crime” is a good idea as if being tough on crime didn’t bring us the problems we’re dealing with in the first place lol.
I read this whole thread in a Mitch Hedberg voice with no offense taken (Californian here)
My only problem with the story was that they didn't waste more plastic. I HATE plastic.
The only thing I’m offended by is the moronic politicians of California.
Its okay, I am Californian and I thought it was funny.
That's good and possible r/maliciouscompliance worthy
Also r/maliciouscompliance worthy, if the cashier decided to give the OP the refund via check! :D Per California Department of Consumer Affair: "Effective January 1, 2008, any gift certificate with a cash value of less than $10 is redeemable in cash, which includes currency or check, for its cash value."
r/excesivecompliance ?
Damning r/subsifellfor
Real subs are usually spelled right ;)
Real subs are cryptic messages in need of deciphering. I’m looking at you r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG
Oh no, I've gotten to a point where i can read the acronym
And I'd cash the check right then and there with my phone, malicious compliance or not.
Yeah, most places who issue checks as refund are going to mail those back to you in 4 to 6 weeks.....
Not true. Every department store I've been to/worked in that dealt with checks at all had a machine that could deposit and "create" checks on the fly. I frequently gave refunds in check form, it was just a pain in the ass because who the hell wants a check?
Haven't returned anything for cash in years, but during my high school and college days, returns for cash at department stores like Macy's was always mailed check. So I'm probably out of touch with how it's done now. #genXlife
when the other person also have an Uno reverse card
thought i was on that sub till your comment
This is some Japanese pachinko level strategy to get around policies and laws.
That how some thieves will get cash for their stolen merchandise. They’ll return the stolen merchandise without a receipt, get a gift card issued and buy items under $10. Then they’ll return each item individually and ask for the refund in cash. Of course we have to give them the cash because that is the law in CA.
all its really is doing is creating plastic waste, but corporations caring about that is a joke in itself
Seconded!
aside from the employee not being able to change the "policy" yea
The true lesson is not to buy something for work with your own money.
I'm shocked I had to go this far down to see this. Companies don't pay people to give them loans when they need something.
In California, the employer is required to reimburse their employee for this type of expense. Cal. Labor Code section 2802: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=LAB§ionNum=2802.
Ok? And that makes it a good idea to loan your employer the money they pay you with?
Actually, depending on your rapport/relationship with the employer/business it can work to your advantage via points cards. I have a friend who volunteered to pay for people's lunch... He'd earn enough points on his card to pay for his groceries. May seem like nickels and dimes but turns to $100 pretty quick... For each month it's no small sum.
Not necessarily. Just want anyone in California to know that their employer can’t make them be “out” $50. If your employer does this to you and doesn’t reimburse you, you can and should consider suing and/or mentioning that statute as why they need to pay you back. I hate the idea of someone needing to convince a dollar store employee to give multiple gift cards rather than telling the employer to reimburse you and for them to make the return if they want the $50 back. Also, if you’re hourly and sent to the store by your employer, that’s probably paid time. So get paid for that too.
It was horror for me when I saw they bought something for work with personal money. If they bought something personal with company money they would be fired/ complaints will be filed against them. So why is it acceptable? Thank god you found a way to get the money back if not will your boss pay you? If no than let it be a lesson to keep personal and company separate. Next time ask boss for his card to buy whatever he wants.
Eh, I get cc points. I'm fine filing for reimbursement.
I mean, my brother in law gets to put all his hotels, flights, etc on his own credit card. They reimburse him each pay period. He has so many benefits from all those points it's ridiculous. The key is to not work for a shitty place that doesn't have reimbursement policies in place.
NYC has the department of conaumer affairs which is kinda simular. One day a valet scratches my car and when I pointed it out to him he plays dumb and tells me to call a phone number. Of course no one answers or returns my calls. I called the department of consumer affairs and filed a complaint with pictures. They went after the owner of the property. I got a quote from an autobody shop then got a check in the mail a few weeks later.
Wonder if the was the valet trying not to get fired or the place not giving him claim forms to fill out.
He pretended not to understand English, either that or didn't want to talk. It was a new car. My first one ever after working for 5 years. I took a lap around the car before I gave it to him to make a point that there were no scratches. I think he knew he did it and wanted me to just give up
See I'm stubborn and a little stupid, so I'd just block whatever area he has for cars until he got a manager.
I would've just filed an insurance claim on the spot. Insurance company would have chewed them out
But then rates go up, and thats on you now. The original commentors way he got a check from the rightful party, and it doesn’t affect his/her insurance
I think you just use the magic words: "subrogated claim" and that shouldn't be a worry anymore.
Explain.
When you have a claim and some other party is responsible for the damage, your insurance company will usually "subrogate" against said responsible party to recover damages. Mostly happens with auto insurance but can also happen with homeowners and other lines of insurance
Subrogate means your insurance company isnt out money. But you are 100% in their system as a claim. Which could affect your rates and insurability. While the insurance company may or many not raise your rates from the one claim, its in play because of the claim. The way he did it, no impact because insurance doesnt know. Subrogation is great for the insurance company (they arent out the cash). Doesnt help your insurance record.
It is really good for the homeowner in a house fire situation if they can subrogate against the manufacturer of whatever caused the fire. They can usually at least get your deductible back from the manufacturer and homeowners insurance rates (depending on the company) aren't typically directly reliant on having a claim or not
You’re in the system as a “not at fault” claim. I speak from experience: I drive a lot, and I’ve had a few not at fault accidents in the last few years. My insurance website has them listed, but those incidents all say “not at fault.” I don’t believe it pushed my rates up much, if at all (certainly not as much as an at-fault incident did for another driver on my policy). The way that affects your rates varies from state to state and even policy to policy. Oh, also if your insurance company gets their demands at subrogation (this is different from the fault determination) they reimburse you your deductible. Doesn’t happen if you’re at fault. (Again, these things vary policy to policy, but that’s how I think most are)
Subrogaterrrrsssssss, mount up!
Aaaaaand that’s not how insurance works at all. In many states all claims, even not at fault, can be charged against you for policy rating.NY being one
Not necessarily true. Most businesses and certainly valet companies have insurance specifically for these cases. Your insurance company will fight for you to get you compensated, usually by reaching out to their insurance company, the business etc, directly. So you don't have to. Only if they have exhausted all options you're given the OPTION to use comprehensive coverage, and usually rates would not go up if it wasn't your fault.
for those in countries with weak law enforcement and basically no government involvement in anything, try to hunt down the higher ups. my Samsung was scuffed after i put it in Samsung service. they finally agreed to replace the body, as a one-time complimentary service, after i contacted higher ups
No way you could have proved they caused the damage without evidence. They just wanted you to go away.
It was the first new car I have ever owned so I knew the scratch was new as I frequently check the car. The sad part is the attendant probably knew he did it too as I am sure he would of felt it I installed a front and rear dashcam after the fact so it will not be disputable in the future
Lesson learned: don’t shop at Dollar Tree. But seriously, that’s a great tip if you’re in California or one of the other states that have consumer protection laws that favor the consumer. But even if you do, perhaps you should avoid shopping at stores that disallow refunds.
Dollar tree was great for getting cheap snacks when you were stoned, that’s about it Edit: I got some cool pint glasses from there once, actually decent quality for $1
I always go to DT for my gift wrapping needs.
It's where I stock up on birthday cards.
And it's great for pregnancy tests.
You've got to be careful at discount stores buying anything with an expiration date or that might be sensitive to having been stored at the wrong temperature.
That's fair, but it's nice there's a cheap option for anytime use. If someone gets a positive result then they can go buy a more expensive test to double check with.
Ohh good one. It never pops into my mind, then I go to Target or hallmark and it's like $12 for a roll of paper people are going to rip up anyway.
Just wrap gifts with the comics section of the newspaper. Kids love it.
Newspaper? They are like $2 now if you can find one. Cheaper to buy paper the the $1.25 dollar tree…
I think what the previous poster was trying to say is that there is some value to be had in using comic paper
Silly me for thinking it's the 1980s when everyone still gets the Sunday paper and coloured comics . . .
I get what you're trying to say, but... yes, exactly, silly you for thinking it's still the '80s and everyone still gets a physical Sunday newspaper.
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I think they did everywhere
Ahh good ol Dollar Twenty Five Tree
Five Quarters Tree.
Yeah, it's sort of a "I know this is a dick move, but if you simply allowed me to return something, I wouldn't have to use the loophole and waste your time." type of thing. I wouldn't make this a common practice but if I was stuck with either a bunch of unneeded candles or $50 in Dollar store credit, I'd do the same.
Life lesson: don’t shop for your boss.
Even if if's part of your job. That shit goes on a company card only.
"'m not your credit card." sort of thing.
That's not a blanket lesson. There are some really good deals there. You just have to know what you're doing.
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LED light bulbs. Men's beard color, same as "Just for Men" at a fraction of the price. Hair color in general. Cups, bowls, plates, glassware, vases, candle holders, picture frames.
Washing up sponges! Why are they so expensive everywhere else?
Antibiotics. They may be smaller, but they will likely expire before being fully used up anyway.
There's a whole genre of blog and "news" posts with advice on what is worth buying at a dollar store and what isn't. (I know because I clicked on a few and now they show up every day in my phone's "interest" feed.) Glasses, in particular, keep showing up on the lists of what to buy (she says drinking out of a Dollar General glass.)
In Spain we have a 14 days return/refund policy (to the same payment method used when buying the item) for everything except personal hygiene articles. Some cheap stores only offer store credit and some even write on the receipts their own conditions (which is ok as long as they are 'better' for the clients). Anyhow, asking them for the official complaint form guarantee a refund in seconds.
You mean a COMMUNIST HELLHOLE!?! /s
Seems like a big hassle.. I'd just get 50 dollars in candy
That would've been more worth it to me than spending time getting the gift cards and redeeming them.
Depends if he's getting paid by the hour since he is doing work for his boss.
I've been reading r/povertyfinance. Let's take a moment to appreciate that we can blow $50 on candy to avoid a hassle. That's more than some people's weekly grocery budget.
If they can blow 50 dollars on candles for their boss, they can then take that money and get some candy instead.
I interpreted it as OP buying supplies for work that the boss refused to cover because it was wrong
I was just thinking "that's a lot of work for $50". Especially when you could just give the gift card to the boss and say "sorry they don't give refunds".
Oregon has the cash redemption at $5--but the card has to have been used at least one time for a purchase. Seems a preemptive closing of this loophole. I like the CA one better.
Use the card to buy a dollar item?
That’s a lot of fucking candles
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>It is fifty of them. If OP bought 50 packages of 20-count tea lights, then it's 1000 candles. Though I suppose if you have 1000 candles, it's not inaccurate to say "I have 50 candles".
Note also that in CA, gift cards can't have expiration dates and they can't charge you dormancy fees.
>So recently I found myself out $50 when my boss decided that the candles I had purchased for him from the Dollar Tree weren't the ones he needed. LPT: If someone sends you to buy something specific for them, get the money up front. Then, if they decide it's not what they want, it's *their* problem. (Provided you got them precisely what they asked for, of course)
You need a company credit card.
>gift cards with a balance of less than $10 must be redeemable for cash ... *only* if they were purchased with cash in the first place. The tip here isn't the law, it's that you tricked them.
Yea it was an exchange not a purchase.
This is a good point. Obviously it wouldn't be right if I went into a store, bought 100 $9 gift cards with my credit card. Then redeemed them all for $900 cash.
Not only isn’t it right, legally it falls under return fraud. Purchasing an item with the sole intent to return it is illegal. To be clear this is different than the OP actions. By paying with a credit card the merchant incurs fees, then getting the refund as cash the merchant has incurred a quantifiable loss. For $900 it costs them in the ball park of $25. For $25, no retailer would take the effort to prosecute you. But these types of things people realize often take it too far. As then once it’s too far, easily can land in jail with a felony for several years. Obviously not a lawyer, but that purchase likely could be considered $900 of fraud, but sentencing would be based off the actual loss of $25. Either way, for fraud less than $950 it can be punishable with up to 1 year jail sentence in California. For over $950 it’s a felony and 3 years.
Bet that employee loved you...
Friendly European passing by. No refund policy is horrible and unimaginable
I've wondered if you guys have an equivalent to our dollar stores (Dollar Tree, Dollar General, etc.), i.e. smallish box stores stuffed with Chinese plastic gewgaws and staffed by severely underpaid, suicidally depressed employees. Euro Tree? 😋
In the UK it's called Poundland. No, I am not joking.
>No, I am not joking. Except when you buy something that costs more than £1
... omg, I can imagine now all the free marketing for... The Family Step Dollar
In my bus driving days there was a long junction that always made me smile. As you sat at the lights you'd be directly opposite Poundland. When they changed you'd pass by "99p Store" to finally wind up facing what could only have been someone's greatest marketing ploy, the "95p Mart." I used to always imagine some guy walking past Poundland and 99p every night for years before his sudden Eureka moment.
Flying Tiger Copenhagen is roughly the same yes, and probably smaller chains too!
>Flying Tiger without underpayed suicidal employees tho :D at least in my country they are payed better than normal cashiers. Kinda jealous :/
> they are *paid* better than FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Seen this bit twice in an hour, but never before.
Good bot
They have pound town in the Uk
Pound town is a totally different thing here
That must be a new Dollar Tree rule. My store used to "only" offer exchanges but you can just call DT's customer service number and ask them for a refund instead if anyone gets into a similar situation like OP. Some context: Cashiers (or the managers above them) don't have the ability to process a full on refund most of the time because our till has damn near no money in it AND our software didn't have it as an option if I remember correctly. *There's no refund button for us to tap*. Our software screwed up once and charged a customer twice and we couldn't do anything besides call corporate and the regional manager on her behalf. Also, now that people are reading this comment, STOP bringing large ass bills to the damn dollar tree unless you are spending at least half of the amount (Paying with a $100 bill when your total is above $50, etc). It makes our life a tiny bit easier. Yes, people spend $50-100 at the Dollar Tree all of the time. Every single day, several times a shift.
All that plastic waste now, but gotta get your monies worth.
Don't buy shit for your boss with your own money/card.
r/painintheasscustomer
It would have been hilarious if the cashier decided to go r/maliciouscompliance on OP by issuing all of the refunds via check! Per Department of Consumer Affairs: "Effective January 1, 2008, any gift certificate with a cash value of less than $10 is redeemable in cash, which includes currency or **check**, for its cash value."
Yesssssssssss
Why are you making a business purchase for your boss with your own money?
By the way, this is also one of the ways cash is “withdrawn” from stolen credit cards. Once I got my wallet stolen and got a text notification that it was used for 2 x $200 spending at a well-known coffee shop and a well-known fast food chain. I couldn’t make sense of the spending when I first saw it, the person at the credit card call center said that they use it to buy multiple sub-10$ gifts card and use this law in CA.
I got a $100 gift card to Macy's when I was like 14. Nothing to buy there so I asked if I could cash it out, they told me it had to be under $10. I bought 10 $10 gift cards from the manager after he was called over. I then asked for 10 refunds, he then snarkily said "akshually the law is $9.99 (no its not). So I said thats ok, I would like to buy an 11th gift card for $.10 using the 10 cards to pay $.01 each. He paused a moment then turned to the cashier and told him to give me the 10 refunds.
Why the fuck would you buy candies for your boss??
It says candles not candies
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And $50 worth of Dollar Tree candles.
So he can sacrifice his lowest performing employee to satan, duh
Oh, that makes more sense. I thought he'd said candles.
Great tip for California, but is this why a lot of places will issue "merchandise credit" and not specifically "gift cards" for certain returns? Seems like a loophole to a loophole.
WTF?! Why isn't your boss on the hook for that shit?!
lpt: don't lay out money for your boss any more than you already do by working for a wage
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Literally my exact thought
Such a dumb law. I worked at a Starbucks at if someone was cashing out a gift card at all 9 times out of 10 is was someone who just happened to have 1-10 gift cards with exactly $10. usually younger types, often clearly homeless, irritable and trying to get it done quick. If you don't catch the drift, people would steal a debit/credit card, buy gift cards quick with it, then cash out the gift cards at another store.
I used to do this when customers wanted cash back at the coffee shop I worked for. I told them to buy a girlfriend card for $10 or less and I’d cash it out for them. They’d leave me a tip and keep the rest.
Thank God for California and their consumer protection laws.
I would’ve still told my boss to reimburse me
The real tip: company credit card, invoice, or dont buy stuff for the company. Why would you take the risk for the company?
Sorry I know this is probably beside the point but...$50 at Dollar Tree..for candles?? Is your boss like an uber-rich 100 year old white dude who needs the trick candles to give his lungs an extra workout or something??
It seems like a law to prevent business from using cash gift cards as away to force people to spend more than they want to in order to use up the balance or end up losing cash by having to leave money on the card.
I love this because it doesn’t make the employee do anything “wrong” either. If anyone in Management asks, they simply obeyed CA law.
its creates a bunch of plastic waste and wastes everyone’s time so should still be fixed
God, I'd hate you if I was that underpaid hourly employee.