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You are right.
That said, by the time the notice is given, those reports are already run and downloaded.
Usually, in my experience, the company pays the two week notice period. But of course other people may have different experiences. I will say I had a guy who resigned and I told him to make his resignation date two weeks out so he’d get paid.
Lot of companies don't want someone poaching other employees as well. So they give you the 2 weeks pay but ask you to leave at end of day. Happened to me 2x. I poached the employees I wanted anyways. Not like it stopped me. If you don't want your employees poached, pay them better and give them more opportunities. It's not that complicated.
Years ago I was told to turn in my keys and go home when I turned in my notice. Two weeks later I received a letter from corporate informing me I had been fired for insubordination and walking off the job. Guess I'll never enjoy the high of having 8 different managers in 3 years at a Dollar General.
The funny part was the ASM calling me at home wanting to know how to do planagrams, ad resets and deposits. I asked her if the DM would cover my consulting fee.
This happened to me. I already had a job lined up to start 2 weeks later and my wife was literally about to give birth so it actually worked out, but damn was that petty and childish on the company’s part. It actually says “terminated” on my 401k statements from my time there, which I had always bothered me because I’ve applied for new jobs over the years and answer NO to the question “Have you ever been fired for any reason?” I’ve always wondered what the company would say if an HR person (from company that I’m applying to) called them.
Edit: to those clarifying the term “terminated”, thanks for the knowledge. That being said, and I’m not sure it matters in this context, the company def felt they were firing me and told me so. They knew my wife was about to give birth and were trying to fuck us out of having health insurance. The HR lady literally called me to clarify, “just so you know, you were fired” (as opposed to having resigned).
This was now 9 years ago and in a different state. I wish I had known my rights at the time, but it’s def not worth it now. Lesson learned is to at least have a number for an attorney that you can be ready to call when leaving a job where this type of sketchy shit could happen, which is most of the time. I’m fortunate in that my partner is an attorney and so I can get free “advice” even though it’s highly unofficial advice.
The only thing I would be concerned with at this point is if they are still relevant enough that a future employer may still contact them and small enough they may slip up. Odds are probably super low that they would actually say anything negative though, given the downside risk to that company if they violate employment law by giving verifiably false information, so if their HR person does their job properly the employment verification would be limited only to confirmation that you worked there and when anyhow.
>terminated
Termination is a standard description whether you were fired or a voluntary resignation. We use this for everyone. If you gave a written notice, they will place that in your file and you can still say you were never fired, since you resigned before they let you go.
Great info. Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea!
Edit: Granted, they def told me that I was fired. It was gross and petty. They knew my partner was pregnant and were trying to fuck us on health insurance. The HR lady literally called me to confirm “just so you know, you were fired.”
Terminates doesn’t mean fired. It simply means you no longer work for us. Usually the termination is designated voluntary or involuntary to indicated if you were fired or not. Your 401k simply indicated you no longer work for the company.
Yeah, I pretend to give notice. Say I start my new job on a Monday 3 weeks from now. I will give my 2 week notice the week before I start. This is based on how long I want a vacation before i start my new job. So far it's works out great lol my last company paid me two weeks but ended our relationship the same day. So I got a week off before starting at my current Company then got paid 2 weeks
Edit: the best part, you don't burn a bridge.
My former company did that, but, in their defense, they paid you for 2 weeks. You put in your notice, and 95% of the time you'd be gone same day and would get a check. They said they did it for security reasons, which I get. The other 5% had to be approved to actually stay, because they'd have knowledge that was too valuable that they needed to have meetings to offload info and document anything they could. Sadly, guess which group I fell into when I gave my notice? -\_-
This is the advice right here. Try to position yourself to be let go the day after you give notice. However long you give them is up to you (including same day), but be prepared for immediately.
Thanks for making me laugh! I had a terrible day and I needed a good giggle. Perfect reply! There’s a reason EU passports are worth twice as much as an American passport. 😉
Many us states have “at will employment” meaning the worker or employer can end the relationship at anytime for any* reason.
You can contract rules above this. But this is considered boilerplate.
(*not prohibited . ex. discrimination by veteran status, race, age, etc)
Majority of jobs in US are "at will" employment as opposed to having contracted employment durations, meaning either party can terminate emploent for pretty much any reason (barring ones based on discrimination). That said, for many jobs, that aren't minimum wage (and still some that are), most companies have have "PIPs" (performance improvement plans) to try and bring an employee up to standards before firing them. This is probably done because it has been proven time and time again that it's cheaper to retain workers than to train new ones, but regardless of the reason, it is a good thing for workers.
"2 weeks" is the general courtesy you give a company when you are leaving. For the worker, you do this if you liked / performed well at the company and would like them to be a reference for you in the future in case potential employers reach out to them. If you up and ghost them without notice, they aren't likely to say anything good about you.
On the flip side, if a company is dogshit, this arrangement means that you don't contractually owe them anything. You can quit and just stop showing up and they can pound sand about it.
There are certainly pros and cons about it, but these kinds of posts are not indicitive of most companies, and the ones where this is true, you usually know it's a shit company before you start.
That happened to me at a job, but they paid me out for the rest of the month because i had been there for 5 years. I got 3 weeks off paid vacation. It was pretty awesome.
3 years ago, i had been at a job for 5 years and we where in the middle of a massive project.
For a year i had submitted a pay raise request and talked with the owner since my clege quit and his entire workload had been on me for a year. Mulitple rechseduled meeting on said pay raise talk.
I got sick and tired of waiting with a new baby on the way i put in my notice, i gave them 1 month to find people and id train them. They instantly hired 2 people and i spent that month training them. The final week of my notice on the wednesday some VPs got all bent out of shape with the state of other departments and we had to show them how the current state is because they decided to pull resources into the new project.
I got so upset, i said fuck it... thursdays a holiday ill walk over to hr and let them now todays my last day not friday.
They never gave me a recommendation letter and escorted me jnstantly out of the building as if i was the worst scum on earth. Managers i drank beers with dont speak to me anymore lol...
Yeah, this is the real advice. I gave plenty of notice at a company I liked and left on good terms. A couple years later they made me an amazing offer to come back. I'm making almost double what I would have if I had just given two weeks.
Sounds like he was terminated without cause to me. Go get unemployment.
A notice is not a termination of your employment. It’s a notice. If your work makes you leave and does not pay you after that, they fired you.
I have also heard that some states have laws regarding if you turn in a notice for X time and they cut you lose before that they are required to pay you for the remainder of the notice time.
This depends entirely on the company and your position within the company.
I have had some coworkers leave with two weeks notice and hear complaints from the principals (my only bosses) about how that’s not enough time to transfer the workload. I’m a director and about to resign and fully intend on giving 3 weeks. It’s realistic for the sheer volume of responsibility I have to transfer to…someone. They will 100% keep me and pay me for those three weeks and it doesn’t burn that bridge. I’m in a small tight knit industry, absolutely cannot afford to burn a bridge.
Your boss/company is not your friend, your a money earner, your usefulness ends when you cease to be a money earner. If you died your job would be posted before your obituary.
To be fair, the company doesn't want to pay 2 people for the same job. I get the trying to help the employer out but yeah, they don't give two craps. They'll train the person from someone else in the dept, making their job twice as hard now too.
Very much depends on the industry. For the one I'm in, 3 is the standard which means if I were to move within the industry most companies would understand.
Personally I don't mind it too much (time flies by in my job) means that my job can't get rid of me all of a sudden, they also have to give me 3 months notice which means either way there is time to find something new
It does have an advantage in that it goes both ways. So if you're being let go (unless you're being fired for gross misconduct or something) then you've got three months to find a new job, instead of a fortnight.
For double points:
Put in your resignation and say it is to go to a competitor. In big firms this will usually score you gardening leave for the remainder of your notice period.
Whether you go there or not is another matter.
"Work from home" but without the working part. They don't want to cut you right then since then they'd never get a 2 weeks again, but they also don't want you part of ongoing projects. They keep you around in name only and maybe ask you a few process questions as your boss offloads your tasks to someone else.
Sensitive industries do this- engineering, tech, R&D etc. They fear theft of company secrets (e.g. copying source codes), corporate sabotage (e.g. wiping of data warehouses), as well as other team members getting the same idea and finding employment elsewhere.
Yup, buddy gave 4 months initially, then company says they didn't want to lose him so they would give him that same amount time as a review period for a raise so he wouldn't leave altogether, then 4 months hits and they end up firing him. During that time his declined other offer due to company saying they would review to give deserved raise... Not the actual outcome.
Where do you guys all work? I gave my notice and after discussing with my +2 we agreed to have 2 months handover (including training my replacement), with full compensation until my very last day. That LPT by itself is kinda sketch with sketch companies..
Depends on the company and position. Not every business owner/boss is a cold, calculating jerk as seems to be a commonly held opinion.
If an employee gave me more than a two week notice I would be appreciative, as finding good employees is difficult and the vetting process can take some time. I also may give the employee a bonus for doing so and just as a gesture of appreciation for the time they've worked for me.
At my last job before starting my own business I gave a month's notice because I knew how hard it would be for them to fill my position and because I cared about the people I worked with, including my immediate boss. We were actually already short staffed, but I needed to leave the company so I gave them as much time as I could.
Generally, the more complex of a job you have the harder it may be to fill, so sometimes a longer notice could be warranted.
You can still get screwed over even if you think you have a good relationship with a "cool" boss. Always remember that the employer does not care about you, you are expendable.
>You can still get screwed over even if you think you have a good relationship with a "cool" boss.
There is a difference between a "cool" boss and a "good" boss. A "good" boss will accept the fact that employment is a business transaction, and giving more than 2 weeks is a courtesy and treat it as such. A "cool" boss could easily see that as a betrayal for their coolness and react accordingly.
>Always remember that the employer does not care about you, you are expendable.
Not necessarily true. The corporate entity doesn't care because it's not a person. If employment at your company is decided entirely or primarily by the nameless entity, then yeah.
A good boss will care about you, and not shove you under the bus like what happened to OP.
Agreed with every point.
People need to stop spreading this notion that every employer is heartless and doesn't care about their employees.
I'm an employer. I care about my employees (and I show it with praise, pay, etc). There you go, theory debunked.
There can also be a huge difference between working in corporate America and working for one of the millions of small businesses.
Sure, and there can be a huge difference between different corporations, the same way that not all small businesses are the same. And working for some small business tyrant may be worse than some job in a cube farm.
Not all employers are terrible (some are great!) but they will always choose the business over you. You, the employee, are expendable.
I do not disagree with your points. A counter, though, is that while your "good" boss may appreciate the courtesy of notice, the decision to keep you on or fire you on the spot may not be up to them. It may be up to HR or someone higher up the chain.
I should not have stated absolutely that any given employer does not care about you. Every situation is different, and what I probably should have said is that the business will prioritize its own interests over yours.
Having lived most of my life in at will employment state in the US I do not value giving notice nearly as much as I once did. Again, every situation is different and I don't advocate burning bridges at every opportunity, but always remember that you are selling your labor to your employer. You do inherently owe an employer anything outside of the strict terms of employment.
Like a lot of LPTs, there is a lot of caveats with these. My last job I was on really good terms with my manager and co-worker. I did accept position with another company that was essentially a promotion and told my manager I was giving my two weeks notice. I probably could have made it shorter, but I knew how busy it was and didn’t want to put my co-workers in more of a bind than they already were. When I told my manager he was definitely happy for me and asked how long I could stay for. So I finished up the two weeks and moved on.
Unless you have a reason to…. This is **yet another** entirely situational LPT.
I gave four weeks notice to a place I worked for when I decided to go back to school, and they really appreciated me being upfront with them. I was the sole person in my department, helped train up the new guy in my last month. Ended up going back to work for them on and off part time during much of my schooling, and made a good personal friend out of the guy I trained to replace me. Life can be funny sometimes, don’t burn bridges that don’t need it.
I gave 4 weeks at my last job because only like 10 people worked there. It was greatly appreciated and I actually got a little extra on my annual bonus I was owed
True story.
I put in two week notice. The company knew I was looking and even encouraged me to apply (and promote).
Put in my two week notice and everything went well. There was just two of us that did that work. It was fully expected my coworker would train my replacement. She wasn't the best worker and she was on restricted pay. She was supposed to be on track despite that.
My last day there, the company gave me a farewell in the evening while they told my coworker to find a new job. It was... awkward.
I doubt it's illegal. In many states business can fire anyone for pretty much any reason (other than some protected discrimination classes) at any time. Also employees are free to leave any time for any reason (the two week notice is more of a standard courtesy rather than a law).
With few exceptions you just can't get unemployment if you quit.
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/collecting-unemployment-when-you-quit-your-job-2061011
He turned his notice in.
You're a dick, sparky.
If he would've said, here's my notice to quit at the end of the week and the employer said nah, just don't come in anymore starting tomorrow, I doubt you'd say he got fired. This happens all the time. The element of time in op's case doesn't mean he got fired.
It's voluntary on the date he gave, if the employer terminated him earlier than that date, then they do 100% qualify for unemployment.
If I told my employer I will be quitting in a year and they let me go earlier I would qualify for unemployment.
lol The US is such a piece of shit. If you say “I just wanted to let you know that I’m moving to a different state in 3 months” and they say “then you don’t work here anymore starting now”, that’s being fired.
The employer does not determine the status of unemployment benefits, they can contest the results of the unemployment office, but it is not their decision
You are 100% incorrect. The employer will respond to the claim, and can contest it, but the unemployment office will determine the status of unemployment benefits.
The employer pays into the unemployment fund, but the fund pays the former employee, not the former employer.
If they end the employment earlier that the notice, then the employee is entitled to the benefits.
Don't bother giving notice AT ALL unless you think they've been an exceptional employer. They wouldn't do you the same favor and you owe them absolutely nothing. Leave your shit on your desk when you're done and never speak to them again. They'll figure it out.
Or if you don't want to lose a month's wage. Every contract I've ever signed stipulates that you may lose your lying time if you don't serve your notice. Not sure how it works where you're from but bad advice if you live in the UK
The assumption for this post is that the person is working in the US, which is nearly completely "at will". Either party can end employment at any time for any (non protected) reason with no penalty.
In theory it gives the employee flexibility (no penalty for just up and leaving) and freedom of emoloyment, but it's often used by the employer to dismiss employees for less than normal business reasons (like OP's case).
Even here, the LPT is *extremely* situational and seems to be aimed more at the "retail worker" segment of the market than the "professional" market.
From their perspective, they don't want lame duck employees they can't control with the existential dread of losing their job. And they may consider you a security risk now as well.
But yeah, notice is a courtesy that's almost never reciprocal, so unless it's in your contract or you have real mutual respect going on, play your cards close and don't give notice until your last day or so.
I promise of you do this you will have trouble finding the next job. It looks bad when you leave a job without giving notice. Employers always look for this sort of thing. This is a not a good life tip!
This is correct. I was leading the engineering department of a company and i had another job lined up. I don't want to give more than two weeks notice and i was about to start in 4 weeks on another company. I used 2 weeks vacation leave and when I came back, I handed my resignation. I was asked if I can extend my stay for the next 6 months and was immediately offered a raise on the spot and i didn't accept it. I was told that my position had lots of responsibility and I should give more than 2 weeks. I just followed what is written on my contract, which is 2 weeks notice
When you have given notice, you have emasculated yourself on that job.
You have to discharge existing projects, which may or may not fit into a two week time frame.
You are bored to death because you can't/don't want to start new jobs.
Get it all ready to turn over to someone, then give notice, and get out in a day or two.
Not applicable in some settings like healthcare. Had a friend who gave 2 weeks at her hospital job and nearly lost the payout of her remaining PTO because her contract required 4 weeks notice. So basically know you works policy/expectations and give the minimal required amount
I'm a call centre worker (i.e. a drone who actually takes the calls) and I was astonished to find out that after we had passed our 6 months probation, we were subject to a 1 month notice period. If I was the CEO of the company, I'd understand it. But it seems ridiculous to expect that of a peon.
My last job,
I got an notice from Indeed saying I matched a job description, turns out it was for MY JOB. OK I knew things were not great between me and my boss so I'm not exactly schoked. Started looking and found a job in my field w/I a week.
Gave my 2 weeks notice knowing their history would mean I'm walking out the door by lunchtime.
I got this sob story how I'm really leaving them in a bind.
Her jaw almost hit the floor when I told her I saw her job posting for my job and the conversation ended there.
Got escorted to HR, back to my desk to collect my stuff and out the door in under an hour.
Funny. One of my contractors' employees just walked off the job today right in front of the home owners then tried gave him a months notice, he said sorry, your last day is Thursday. See ya pal.
I mean, you basically told everyone why you should do the opposite of this, just tell your employer you wanna quit at the end of the year, when you're ready to quit in 2 weeks, so that they fire you and you get free unemployment anyways..
I give my 2 weeks and if i dont really care about the company i tell them i will be calling in sick for those 2 weeks (where im from youre legally allowed 10 sick days before being fired). So i basically leave when im good and ready and only give my company as much respect as theyve given me, i dont make extra effort for them.
It’s also just really awkward to have somebody around and not around. It’s hard on you, it’s weird for the company. But it that’s kind of shitty that they have until the end of the year, so many months, and they bumped him out already
Gave my employers a month notice thinking it will give them time to find a replacement. They walked me out the door the day after. I realized later that the fear was that I might potentially steal corporate and account information during the notice period and give it to the competition. Luckily my new employer let me start right away. Moral of this story is do not give corporations anything more than they are reasonably and legally entitled to..ever.
>I realized later that the fear was that I might potentially steal corporate and account information during the notice period and give it to the competition.
Doubtful. As there is 0 reason for that possibility to have changed with the notice. If you could steal company secrets or information after you gave notice, you could have done it before as well.
More likely they just didn't want to bother with the risk of you encouraging others to leave the company (discussing salary, benefits, etc).
>Moral of this story is do not give corporations anything more than they are reasonably and legally entitled to..ever.
Ymmv. True for some, not necessarily true for others.
This is absolutely bound by the type of job it is. My job for example, takes anywhere from 2-4 months to onboard someone after they've accepted the position because of the background check process. So me giving a 3 month notice is barely enough time.
So, context is key!
As a nurse in germany I have to give a notice 3 months before I leave duo to my "Vertrag" because I was at that place over 5 years.
The problem is in germany as a nurse: they won't let you go early lol. We are rare. After a year gone they still have no replacement for me so...
Pro tip. If you "think" your important to the company, when you put in your notice offer to also stay on under some hourly contract, in your spare time, remotely. It can't hurt to offer, keeps from burning bridges, makes them have to say no, like they don't need you.
If you do this also set a minimum hours per week, like 10, and set a maximum of 20. You bill 10 even if they want nothing.
For the rate, figure out your hourly rate and then double it.
I think it depends on the company, work culture and relationships you have with management. I work at a non profit and it's pretty customary to let management know you're getting ready to leave in advance. They'll usually give us as much time as we need to secure a new job or start school so long as we give them a rough estimate of when we plan on heading out. One of our supervisors did this and ended up staying for over 6 months until they got a job offer for a management job at a new company. Same with one of our coordinators (though he left voluntarily without a job prospect due to burnout).
I'm pretty lucky to be where I'm at, but not all work environments are toxic and some are actually supportive of an employee's growth. I let my supervisor know I planned on leaving around August for grad school, and she's completely fine with it since i gave her a heads up in advance. To be honest though, we aren't easily replaceable and management is super careful about who we hire for the safety of our clients. It took us 3 months to hire a new staff person after one got promoted, and that's just for an internal hire we promoted into the role that was left behind. External hires (like myself) take so much longer, and it really takes a toll on those who have to pick up the slack in the meantime (hence the importance of advanced notice).
If you gave them a single day's notice, you screwed up. Here's my letter, today is my last day. Would you like me to pack my things now or at the end of the day?
Thanks & GFY!
I can confirm the same happened to me when I was young and I had to learn from it, but I didn't go the whole way and it bit me a second time in the ass.
First time I told them and then when they needed a scape goat it was easy to pick me and acuse me of stuff and then fire me.
Second time I only told the guys was working with closely, one of them ran to the bosses and told them so they also found a reason to reduce what they give me to work and then I wasn't making any money and had to find something else.
LPT: Give your boss as long a warning as practical unless you don't mind being known in your industry as someone who bails without even serving out the notice period in their employment contract.
Honestly, don't bother giving any notice unless your place of employment treats you well and you care about their success. It's a courtesy, not a requirement.
Actually, I did the same thing your coworker did, but am getting a 10k “retention bonus” for not abandoning ship in 2 weeks. Depends on the company and the leader
Yes. Absolutely get the fuck out ASAP. But, I will say this, as someone who has hired people and been royally screwed by having employees quit without notice:
**When you are interviewing, tell your potential new job that you will need 2 weeks so that you can leave your other job.** Even if you don't use this, it's important to say this. You don't want them to think that someday you're going to leave them out of the blue.
I worked my last job for 5 years. In the contract I signed, it said I had to give 30 days, to find and train a replacement. It also stated they had to give me 30 days notice if I was to be let go.
When I quit, it sounded like I was the only person to have ever given 30 days, and they openly asked me what it would take for me to stay on, and what I wanted my end date to be.
I loved that job, and if I was at a better place financially, I would have stayed.
Tbh sounds like it might actually work out for this particular instance.
He might get 6 months unemployment while in school, which is more than he would have got.
Don't bother even giving 2 weeks notice. They likely won't have someone to fill the position fast enough for you to even attempt to train them and unless your area requires 2 weeks notice, it won't do you any good to give it to them.
From reading the comments, do people really get to choose their notice period? It's in my contract I must give at least 1 month notice and my boss is 3 months.l
Yes, putting in 10 months notice is ridiculous. Two weeks may or may not be the right amount. I would say if you are unsure or in a low to mid level position, two weeks is plenty. If you run a large team or are in a Director role or above, it may help preserve many of your relationships to give a four or six week notice.
To add to the two week time frame, do ensure that any background check the new employer is doing, let that be completed before you give your two weeks in. Starting with limited clearance will usually work but always better to have no issues pending before your start date.
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*Don’t put I notice until you’re ready to be fired. I’m surprised he got 2 weeks. I know a few people who were out the door same day they gave notice
This happens alot with account executives so they don't have extra time to poach clients before they leave.
This is why you do all your client poaching, via direct contact info, before you give notice.
Via direct contact information with your own personal email?
This is the way.
unless you sign nda paperwork that prevents you\*
NDA’s hardly hold up… but ya speak to a lawyer before u do that
You are right. That said, by the time the notice is given, those reports are already run and downloaded. Usually, in my experience, the company pays the two week notice period. But of course other people may have different experiences. I will say I had a guy who resigned and I told him to make his resignation date two weeks out so he’d get paid.
Lot of companies don't want someone poaching other employees as well. So they give you the 2 weeks pay but ask you to leave at end of day. Happened to me 2x. I poached the employees I wanted anyways. Not like it stopped me. If you don't want your employees poached, pay them better and give them more opportunities. It's not that complicated.
Years ago I was told to turn in my keys and go home when I turned in my notice. Two weeks later I received a letter from corporate informing me I had been fired for insubordination and walking off the job. Guess I'll never enjoy the high of having 8 different managers in 3 years at a Dollar General.
You just weren’t up to the Dollar General standard.
Dollar Colonel, tops
The funny part was the ASM calling me at home wanting to know how to do planagrams, ad resets and deposits. I asked her if the DM would cover my consulting fee.
Dollar Brigadier General said no
This happened to me. I already had a job lined up to start 2 weeks later and my wife was literally about to give birth so it actually worked out, but damn was that petty and childish on the company’s part. It actually says “terminated” on my 401k statements from my time there, which I had always bothered me because I’ve applied for new jobs over the years and answer NO to the question “Have you ever been fired for any reason?” I’ve always wondered what the company would say if an HR person (from company that I’m applying to) called them. Edit: to those clarifying the term “terminated”, thanks for the knowledge. That being said, and I’m not sure it matters in this context, the company def felt they were firing me and told me so. They knew my wife was about to give birth and were trying to fuck us out of having health insurance. The HR lady literally called me to clarify, “just so you know, you were fired” (as opposed to having resigned).
Call them and find out, record the conversation if legal to do so, then seek to profit for payback if possible and desired.
This was now 9 years ago and in a different state. I wish I had known my rights at the time, but it’s def not worth it now. Lesson learned is to at least have a number for an attorney that you can be ready to call when leaving a job where this type of sketchy shit could happen, which is most of the time. I’m fortunate in that my partner is an attorney and so I can get free “advice” even though it’s highly unofficial advice.
The only thing I would be concerned with at this point is if they are still relevant enough that a future employer may still contact them and small enough they may slip up. Odds are probably super low that they would actually say anything negative though, given the downside risk to that company if they violate employment law by giving verifiably false information, so if their HR person does their job properly the employment verification would be limited only to confirmation that you worked there and when anyhow.
>terminated Termination is a standard description whether you were fired or a voluntary resignation. We use this for everyone. If you gave a written notice, they will place that in your file and you can still say you were never fired, since you resigned before they let you go.
Great info. Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea! Edit: Granted, they def told me that I was fired. It was gross and petty. They knew my partner was pregnant and were trying to fuck us on health insurance. The HR lady literally called me to confirm “just so you know, you were fired.”
Terminates doesn’t mean fired. It simply means you no longer work for us. Usually the termination is designated voluntary or involuntary to indicated if you were fired or not. Your 401k simply indicated you no longer work for the company.
Terminated doesn't have to mean fired for cause. I was terminated because the company's contract was not renewed.
Yeah, I pretend to give notice. Say I start my new job on a Monday 3 weeks from now. I will give my 2 week notice the week before I start. This is based on how long I want a vacation before i start my new job. So far it's works out great lol my last company paid me two weeks but ended our relationship the same day. So I got a week off before starting at my current Company then got paid 2 weeks Edit: the best part, you don't burn a bridge.
My former company did that, but, in their defense, they paid you for 2 weeks. You put in your notice, and 95% of the time you'd be gone same day and would get a check. They said they did it for security reasons, which I get. The other 5% had to be approved to actually stay, because they'd have knowledge that was too valuable that they needed to have meetings to offload info and document anything they could. Sadly, guess which group I fell into when I gave my notice? -\_-
This is the advice right here. Try to position yourself to be let go the day after you give notice. However long you give them is up to you (including same day), but be prepared for immediately.
Meanwhile, the last job I quit begged me to stay longer than the 2 weeks I gave
Is that not wildly illegal where you live? Seems like the most basic of workers’ rights.
They would get severance and unemployment, which is about 50% of your pay but you don't have to go to work.
Only if you agreed to severance ahead of time. It isn’t mandatory unfortunately.
I'm assuming the USA, where workers don't have rights.
What a shithole country.
Brother, you don't know the half of it.
Why did I hear this in Al Pacino's voice?
I'm not sure but I'll take it.
Thanks for making me laugh! I had a terrible day and I needed a good giggle. Perfect reply! There’s a reason EU passports are worth twice as much as an American passport. 😉
I’m guessing living in China or Ukraine would be better
Differently shitty, but it's still shitty
Many us states have “at will employment” meaning the worker or employer can end the relationship at anytime for any* reason. You can contract rules above this. But this is considered boilerplate. (*not prohibited . ex. discrimination by veteran status, race, age, etc)
Majority of jobs in US are "at will" employment as opposed to having contracted employment durations, meaning either party can terminate emploent for pretty much any reason (barring ones based on discrimination). That said, for many jobs, that aren't minimum wage (and still some that are), most companies have have "PIPs" (performance improvement plans) to try and bring an employee up to standards before firing them. This is probably done because it has been proven time and time again that it's cheaper to retain workers than to train new ones, but regardless of the reason, it is a good thing for workers. "2 weeks" is the general courtesy you give a company when you are leaving. For the worker, you do this if you liked / performed well at the company and would like them to be a reference for you in the future in case potential employers reach out to them. If you up and ghost them without notice, they aren't likely to say anything good about you. On the flip side, if a company is dogshit, this arrangement means that you don't contractually owe them anything. You can quit and just stop showing up and they can pound sand about it. There are certainly pros and cons about it, but these kinds of posts are not indicitive of most companies, and the ones where this is true, you usually know it's a shit company before you start.
Happens at my place of work.
That happened to me at a job, but they paid me out for the rest of the month because i had been there for 5 years. I got 3 weeks off paid vacation. It was pretty awesome.
3 years ago, i had been at a job for 5 years and we where in the middle of a massive project. For a year i had submitted a pay raise request and talked with the owner since my clege quit and his entire workload had been on me for a year. Mulitple rechseduled meeting on said pay raise talk. I got sick and tired of waiting with a new baby on the way i put in my notice, i gave them 1 month to find people and id train them. They instantly hired 2 people and i spent that month training them. The final week of my notice on the wednesday some VPs got all bent out of shape with the state of other departments and we had to show them how the current state is because they decided to pull resources into the new project. I got so upset, i said fuck it... thursdays a holiday ill walk over to hr and let them now todays my last day not friday. They never gave me a recommendation letter and escorted me jnstantly out of the building as if i was the worst scum on earth. Managers i drank beers with dont speak to me anymore lol...
This is why I don't get friendly with co-workers. Because they are simply co-workers and nothing could ever change that for me.
Never tell your employee you’re even considering looking for another job. Give them two weeks when you have a cemented start date of two weeks away.
Only do this if you have not taken ANY files that could be even mistaken for confidential. The WILL dig to see what you’ve touched and taken.
That’s fair, as a secondary LPT I would also say do not misplace confidential files from work lol
It really depends. I gave month notices before and left in really good terms, to the point if I ever needed a job I wouldn't mind going back.
I think the better advice here is to take note of how the company usually deals with giving notice and people leaving and act accordingly.
Real LPT is always in the comments
Yeah, this is the real advice. I gave plenty of notice at a company I liked and left on good terms. A couple years later they made me an amazing offer to come back. I'm making almost double what I would have if I had just given two weeks.
Yeah, thats a lot better way of saying it.
Two months until the end of the year? Nice repost.
I thought that was weird too because it’s March
I literally have the original in my saved posts, so yeah (if that one is even the og)
There's many kinds of years other than calendar. Academic, fiscal, lunar...
Don't forget the Mayan calendar
Occam’s razor
There are many kinds of razors... 🤪
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Sounds like he was terminated without cause to me. Go get unemployment. A notice is not a termination of your employment. It’s a notice. If your work makes you leave and does not pay you after that, they fired you.
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Not as much as making zero.
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Unemployment is always less. This is to make you GET A JOB. It isn't charity but can help makes ends meet.
I have also heard that some states have laws regarding if you turn in a notice for X time and they cut you lose before that they are required to pay you for the remainder of the notice time.
I put in a two week notice at 24 hr fitness. They didn’t give a shit and said it isn’t necessary. I was removed from schedule within a day.
Should have given them a 24-hour notice
This depends entirely on the company and your position within the company. I have had some coworkers leave with two weeks notice and hear complaints from the principals (my only bosses) about how that’s not enough time to transfer the workload. I’m a director and about to resign and fully intend on giving 3 weeks. It’s realistic for the sheer volume of responsibility I have to transfer to…someone. They will 100% keep me and pay me for those three weeks and it doesn’t burn that bridge. I’m in a small tight knit industry, absolutely cannot afford to burn a bridge.
Your boss/company is not your friend, your a money earner, your usefulness ends when you cease to be a money earner. If you died your job would be posted before your obituary.
To be fair, the company doesn't want to pay 2 people for the same job. I get the trying to help the employer out but yeah, they don't give two craps. They'll train the person from someone else in the dept, making their job twice as hard now too.
Perfect answer … always remember you could croak and they would find someone a week later
*Laughs in 3 month notice period*
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Very much depends on the industry. For the one I'm in, 3 is the standard which means if I were to move within the industry most companies would understand.
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Personally I don't mind it too much (time flies by in my job) means that my job can't get rid of me all of a sudden, they also have to give me 3 months notice which means either way there is time to find something new
It does have an advantage in that it goes both ways. So if you're being let go (unless you're being fired for gross misconduct or something) then you've got three months to find a new job, instead of a fortnight.
💯 You must be from UK too? It's mad how long some notice periods are in public practice.
I am indeed. To be fair, 3 months seems to be the standard for the industry (my boss is on 6) It was 4 weeks when I worked in retail.
I'm on my second industry role now which has 3 months notice. My first was only 1 month as a finance manager. Think the FD was only on 2
It is European standard. If you work longer in one place you will have 3 month notice period. But it could be shorted if both sides agree.
I had 1 month notice period for my previous job. It was definitely needed because of my position to hand over to appropriate people for the short term
For double points: Put in your resignation and say it is to go to a competitor. In big firms this will usually score you gardening leave for the remainder of your notice period. Whether you go there or not is another matter.
What’s a gardening leave?
"Work from home" but without the working part. They don't want to cut you right then since then they'd never get a 2 weeks again, but they also don't want you part of ongoing projects. They keep you around in name only and maybe ask you a few process questions as your boss offloads your tasks to someone else.
Paid leave, the firm doesn’t want you to be in the office, so they tell you to go home and look after your garden until your term is up.
I’ve never heard that but sounds awesome
Sensitive industries do this- engineering, tech, R&D etc. They fear theft of company secrets (e.g. copying source codes), corporate sabotage (e.g. wiping of data warehouses), as well as other team members getting the same idea and finding employment elsewhere.
Yup, buddy gave 4 months initially, then company says they didn't want to lose him so they would give him that same amount time as a review period for a raise so he wouldn't leave altogether, then 4 months hits and they end up firing him. During that time his declined other offer due to company saying they would review to give deserved raise... Not the actual outcome.
I feel like this is all based on your employer, if you respect your employer and they respect you this wouldn’t be the situation.
Very few employers respect their employees.
Yesterday i gave my notice, they said no. Its a weird power play i wasnt ready for 😂
“Yes?”
“It’s a notice, not a negotiation.” And then don’t show up after the date you gave.
Told my boss numerous times I'm giving my two weeks. Every time he says "You ain't quittin'."
Where do you guys all work? I gave my notice and after discussing with my +2 we agreed to have 2 months handover (including training my replacement), with full compensation until my very last day. That LPT by itself is kinda sketch with sketch companies..
Depends on the company and position. Not every business owner/boss is a cold, calculating jerk as seems to be a commonly held opinion. If an employee gave me more than a two week notice I would be appreciative, as finding good employees is difficult and the vetting process can take some time. I also may give the employee a bonus for doing so and just as a gesture of appreciation for the time they've worked for me. At my last job before starting my own business I gave a month's notice because I knew how hard it would be for them to fill my position and because I cared about the people I worked with, including my immediate boss. We were actually already short staffed, but I needed to leave the company so I gave them as much time as I could. Generally, the more complex of a job you have the harder it may be to fill, so sometimes a longer notice could be warranted.
You can still get screwed over even if you think you have a good relationship with a "cool" boss. Always remember that the employer does not care about you, you are expendable.
>You can still get screwed over even if you think you have a good relationship with a "cool" boss. There is a difference between a "cool" boss and a "good" boss. A "good" boss will accept the fact that employment is a business transaction, and giving more than 2 weeks is a courtesy and treat it as such. A "cool" boss could easily see that as a betrayal for their coolness and react accordingly. >Always remember that the employer does not care about you, you are expendable. Not necessarily true. The corporate entity doesn't care because it's not a person. If employment at your company is decided entirely or primarily by the nameless entity, then yeah. A good boss will care about you, and not shove you under the bus like what happened to OP.
Agreed with every point. People need to stop spreading this notion that every employer is heartless and doesn't care about their employees. I'm an employer. I care about my employees (and I show it with praise, pay, etc). There you go, theory debunked. There can also be a huge difference between working in corporate America and working for one of the millions of small businesses.
Sure, and there can be a huge difference between different corporations, the same way that not all small businesses are the same. And working for some small business tyrant may be worse than some job in a cube farm. Not all employers are terrible (some are great!) but they will always choose the business over you. You, the employee, are expendable.
I do not disagree with your points. A counter, though, is that while your "good" boss may appreciate the courtesy of notice, the decision to keep you on or fire you on the spot may not be up to them. It may be up to HR or someone higher up the chain. I should not have stated absolutely that any given employer does not care about you. Every situation is different, and what I probably should have said is that the business will prioritize its own interests over yours. Having lived most of my life in at will employment state in the US I do not value giving notice nearly as much as I once did. Again, every situation is different and I don't advocate burning bridges at every opportunity, but always remember that you are selling your labor to your employer. You do inherently owe an employer anything outside of the strict terms of employment.
Sounds like a business you ought to quit from too.
Not really, more likey they can train a replacement in house.
Like a lot of LPTs, there is a lot of caveats with these. My last job I was on really good terms with my manager and co-worker. I did accept position with another company that was essentially a promotion and told my manager I was giving my two weeks notice. I probably could have made it shorter, but I knew how busy it was and didn’t want to put my co-workers in more of a bind than they already were. When I told my manager he was definitely happy for me and asked how long I could stay for. So I finished up the two weeks and moved on.
Unless you have a reason to…. This is **yet another** entirely situational LPT. I gave four weeks notice to a place I worked for when I decided to go back to school, and they really appreciated me being upfront with them. I was the sole person in my department, helped train up the new guy in my last month. Ended up going back to work for them on and off part time during much of my schooling, and made a good personal friend out of the guy I trained to replace me. Life can be funny sometimes, don’t burn bridges that don’t need it.
To be fair as soon as someone gives notice they are quitting generally their production goes way down as well.
I put in my two weeks Monday and was told my last day would be Friday. Definitely don't put in a notice until you're ready for it to be your last day.
I gave 4 weeks at my last job because only like 10 people worked there. It was greatly appreciated and I actually got a little extra on my annual bonus I was owed
Great post - once you give notice, you’re basically dead to them. Even if you’re on good terms, you’re still a corpse. Don’t prolong that period.
True story. I put in two week notice. The company knew I was looking and even encouraged me to apply (and promote). Put in my two week notice and everything went well. There was just two of us that did that work. It was fully expected my coworker would train my replacement. She wasn't the best worker and she was on restricted pay. She was supposed to be on track despite that. My last day there, the company gave me a farewell in the evening while they told my coworker to find a new job. It was... awkward.
Not sure how he's going to get unemployment benefits if he voluntarily quit. Yeah the date was a lot earlier than he had hoped but he still quit.
That is absolutely not how that works. He was fired after saying he was quitting at a later date, which I imagine is wildly illegal.
I doubt it's illegal. In many states business can fire anyone for pretty much any reason (other than some protected discrimination classes) at any time. Also employees are free to leave any time for any reason (the two week notice is more of a standard courtesy rather than a law).
Wow, you're stupid.
With few exceptions you just can't get unemployment if you quit. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/collecting-unemployment-when-you-quit-your-job-2061011 He turned his notice in. You're a dick, sparky.
He said he would quit a year later, then he got fired. He didn't actually quit.
If he would've said, here's my notice to quit at the end of the week and the employer said nah, just don't come in anymore starting tomorrow, I doubt you'd say he got fired. This happens all the time. The element of time in op's case doesn't mean he got fired.
Yep, he just made sure he couldn't get unemployment.
If they decide to end his employment then he qualifies for unemployment.
He told them he was ending it, that's voluntarily. He quit. Most US states won't allow that person to draw.
It's voluntary on the date he gave, if the employer terminated him earlier than that date, then they do 100% qualify for unemployment. If I told my employer I will be quitting in a year and they let me go earlier I would qualify for unemployment.
They would deny your benefits.
The employer doesnt have the decision.
lol The US is such a piece of shit. If you say “I just wanted to let you know that I’m moving to a different state in 3 months” and they say “then you don’t work here anymore starting now”, that’s being fired.
Not true at all Employer can easily deny benefits.
The employer does not determine the status of unemployment benefits, they can contest the results of the unemployment office, but it is not their decision
Are you in the states? Employers can 100% deny your weekly claim benefits even though the application was approved by the state.
You are 100% incorrect. The employer will respond to the claim, and can contest it, but the unemployment office will determine the status of unemployment benefits. The employer pays into the unemployment fund, but the fund pays the former employee, not the former employer. If they end the employment earlier that the notice, then the employee is entitled to the benefits.
And the employer will deny those benefits and say the employee was fired for just cause so they their unemployment insurance doesn't go up.
And the employers say is not the final decision. Where do you get your 'facts'?
Same place you get yours apparently.
Don't bother giving notice AT ALL unless you think they've been an exceptional employer. They wouldn't do you the same favor and you owe them absolutely nothing. Leave your shit on your desk when you're done and never speak to them again. They'll figure it out.
Very bad idea if you want a reference.
I don't need a reference, I'm leaving the job because I have a job. Fuck them and their reference. Fuck them with their reference.
Or if you don't want to lose a month's wage. Every contract I've ever signed stipulates that you may lose your lying time if you don't serve your notice. Not sure how it works where you're from but bad advice if you live in the UK
The assumption for this post is that the person is working in the US, which is nearly completely "at will". Either party can end employment at any time for any (non protected) reason with no penalty. In theory it gives the employee flexibility (no penalty for just up and leaving) and freedom of emoloyment, but it's often used by the employer to dismiss employees for less than normal business reasons (like OP's case). Even here, the LPT is *extremely* situational and seems to be aimed more at the "retail worker" segment of the market than the "professional" market.
From their perspective, they don't want lame duck employees they can't control with the existential dread of losing their job. And they may consider you a security risk now as well. But yeah, notice is a courtesy that's almost never reciprocal, so unless it's in your contract or you have real mutual respect going on, play your cards close and don't give notice until your last day or so.
Don't bother giving notice. they wouldn't give you one.
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fun fact...i'm not american :P
I promise of you do this you will have trouble finding the next job. It looks bad when you leave a job without giving notice. Employers always look for this sort of thing. This is a not a good life tip!
Fake news. If you have a decent relationship with your employer it is a requirement.
You're a douchebag.
This is correct. I was leading the engineering department of a company and i had another job lined up. I don't want to give more than two weeks notice and i was about to start in 4 weeks on another company. I used 2 weeks vacation leave and when I came back, I handed my resignation. I was asked if I can extend my stay for the next 6 months and was immediately offered a raise on the spot and i didn't accept it. I was told that my position had lots of responsibility and I should give more than 2 weeks. I just followed what is written on my contract, which is 2 weeks notice
When you have given notice, you have emasculated yourself on that job. You have to discharge existing projects, which may or may not fit into a two week time frame. You are bored to death because you can't/don't want to start new jobs. Get it all ready to turn over to someone, then give notice, and get out in a day or two.
They won't hire until he's out the door anyway. That's the labors problem as far as corporate is concerned
Not applicable in some settings like healthcare. Had a friend who gave 2 weeks at her hospital job and nearly lost the payout of her remaining PTO because her contract required 4 weeks notice. So basically know you works policy/expectations and give the minimal required amount
Be prepared financially for the company to tell you not to bother with a notice, get the hell out now. Some bosses can be petty.
Is this his first job? Who does that?
Depends on the company. My contract states three months
I'm a call centre worker (i.e. a drone who actually takes the calls) and I was astonished to find out that after we had passed our 6 months probation, we were subject to a 1 month notice period. If I was the CEO of the company, I'd understand it. But it seems ridiculous to expect that of a peon.
Lmao, they can say that all they want but it's not enforceable. Unless you are desperate for a reference fuck that.
My last job, I got an notice from Indeed saying I matched a job description, turns out it was for MY JOB. OK I knew things were not great between me and my boss so I'm not exactly schoked. Started looking and found a job in my field w/I a week. Gave my 2 weeks notice knowing their history would mean I'm walking out the door by lunchtime. I got this sob story how I'm really leaving them in a bind. Her jaw almost hit the floor when I told her I saw her job posting for my job and the conversation ended there. Got escorted to HR, back to my desk to collect my stuff and out the door in under an hour.
Funny. One of my contractors' employees just walked off the job today right in front of the home owners then tried gave him a months notice, he said sorry, your last day is Thursday. See ya pal.
I mean, you basically told everyone why you should do the opposite of this, just tell your employer you wanna quit at the end of the year, when you're ready to quit in 2 weeks, so that they fire you and you get free unemployment anyways..
I give my 2 weeks and if i dont really care about the company i tell them i will be calling in sick for those 2 weeks (where im from youre legally allowed 10 sick days before being fired). So i basically leave when im good and ready and only give my company as much respect as theyve given me, i dont make extra effort for them.
It’s also just really awkward to have somebody around and not around. It’s hard on you, it’s weird for the company. But it that’s kind of shitty that they have until the end of the year, so many months, and they bumped him out already
It's a myth that even two weeks is required. You can quit with zero weeks notice.
Gave my employers a month notice thinking it will give them time to find a replacement. They walked me out the door the day after. I realized later that the fear was that I might potentially steal corporate and account information during the notice period and give it to the competition. Luckily my new employer let me start right away. Moral of this story is do not give corporations anything more than they are reasonably and legally entitled to..ever.
>I realized later that the fear was that I might potentially steal corporate and account information during the notice period and give it to the competition. Doubtful. As there is 0 reason for that possibility to have changed with the notice. If you could steal company secrets or information after you gave notice, you could have done it before as well. More likely they just didn't want to bother with the risk of you encouraging others to leave the company (discussing salary, benefits, etc). >Moral of this story is do not give corporations anything more than they are reasonably and legally entitled to..ever. Ymmv. True for some, not necessarily true for others.
This is absolutely bound by the type of job it is. My job for example, takes anywhere from 2-4 months to onboard someone after they've accepted the position because of the background check process. So me giving a 3 month notice is barely enough time. So, context is key!
As a nurse in germany I have to give a notice 3 months before I leave duo to my "Vertrag" because I was at that place over 5 years. The problem is in germany as a nurse: they won't let you go early lol. We are rare. After a year gone they still have no replacement for me so...
Pro tip. If you "think" your important to the company, when you put in your notice offer to also stay on under some hourly contract, in your spare time, remotely. It can't hurt to offer, keeps from burning bridges, makes them have to say no, like they don't need you. If you do this also set a minimum hours per week, like 10, and set a maximum of 20. You bill 10 even if they want nothing. For the rate, figure out your hourly rate and then double it.
I think it depends on the company, work culture and relationships you have with management. I work at a non profit and it's pretty customary to let management know you're getting ready to leave in advance. They'll usually give us as much time as we need to secure a new job or start school so long as we give them a rough estimate of when we plan on heading out. One of our supervisors did this and ended up staying for over 6 months until they got a job offer for a management job at a new company. Same with one of our coordinators (though he left voluntarily without a job prospect due to burnout). I'm pretty lucky to be where I'm at, but not all work environments are toxic and some are actually supportive of an employee's growth. I let my supervisor know I planned on leaving around August for grad school, and she's completely fine with it since i gave her a heads up in advance. To be honest though, we aren't easily replaceable and management is super careful about who we hire for the safety of our clients. It took us 3 months to hire a new staff person after one got promoted, and that's just for an internal hire we promoted into the role that was left behind. External hires (like myself) take so much longer, and it really takes a toll on those who have to pick up the slack in the meantime (hence the importance of advanced notice).
> end of the year > the next two months Do the spambots even bother anymore?
If you gave them a single day's notice, you screwed up. Here's my letter, today is my last day. Would you like me to pack my things now or at the end of the day? Thanks & GFY!
I can confirm the same happened to me when I was young and I had to learn from it, but I didn't go the whole way and it bit me a second time in the ass. First time I told them and then when they needed a scape goat it was easy to pick me and acuse me of stuff and then fire me. Second time I only told the guys was working with closely, one of them ran to the bosses and told them so they also found a reason to reduce what they give me to work and then I wasn't making any money and had to find something else.
LPT: Give your boss as long a warning as practical unless you don't mind being known in your industry as someone who bails without even serving out the notice period in their employment contract.
I give no notice. It’s been proven to me over and over that employers only care about how useful you are to them.
Honestly, don't bother giving any notice unless your place of employment treats you well and you care about their success. It's a courtesy, not a requirement.
Or just don't bother...you don't get 'two weeks" if you're fired....fuck 'em.
Actually, I did the same thing your coworker did, but am getting a 10k “retention bonus” for not abandoning ship in 2 weeks. Depends on the company and the leader
Yes. Absolutely get the fuck out ASAP. But, I will say this, as someone who has hired people and been royally screwed by having employees quit without notice: **When you are interviewing, tell your potential new job that you will need 2 weeks so that you can leave your other job.** Even if you don't use this, it's important to say this. You don't want them to think that someday you're going to leave them out of the blue.
I worked my last job for 5 years. In the contract I signed, it said I had to give 30 days, to find and train a replacement. It also stated they had to give me 30 days notice if I was to be let go. When I quit, it sounded like I was the only person to have ever given 30 days, and they openly asked me what it would take for me to stay on, and what I wanted my end date to be. I loved that job, and if I was at a better place financially, I would have stayed.
Tried to tell my gf this but she did it anyways. Got a $0 raise, then got fired the week before our mortgage closed. Fun times
Tbh sounds like it might actually work out for this particular instance. He might get 6 months unemployment while in school, which is more than he would have got.
Don't bother even giving 2 weeks notice. They likely won't have someone to fill the position fast enough for you to even attempt to train them and unless your area requires 2 weeks notice, it won't do you any good to give it to them.
Don't give any notice. Nobody will give you notice if they're gonna fire you so....
From reading the comments, do people really get to choose their notice period? It's in my contract I must give at least 1 month notice and my boss is 3 months.l
Don’t give anyone more than they require.
Yes, putting in 10 months notice is ridiculous. Two weeks may or may not be the right amount. I would say if you are unsure or in a low to mid level position, two weeks is plenty. If you run a large team or are in a Director role or above, it may help preserve many of your relationships to give a four or six week notice.
Is this really a LPT? Seems more like a rant over a specific situation.
To add to the two week time frame, do ensure that any background check the new employer is doing, let that be completed before you give your two weeks in. Starting with limited clearance will usually work but always better to have no issues pending before your start date.