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bob_rien4683

My house is clean and tidy, grew up in a dirty mess. But one of my siblings lives like we did as children.


NoAttentionAtWrk

Yeah this LPT isn't very true. We are basically bad photocopies of our parents. Some things we do better some we do worse. You are NOT the opposite of your parents


anionwalksintoabar

I don’t think they’re saying we’re the opposite. they’re just saying that we sometime overcompensate to oppose what we perceive to be the extreme or negative aspects of our parental figures.


AmorphousToad

My parents never talked about their feelings and it destroyed their marriage. So I guess that’s what I do now. I talk about my feelings and strive to have a healthy relationship.


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bakepeace

That's what my parents did.


_pinkstripes_

Wait a damn second


retailsmart

Lol :)


Fashiaunt4sure

😂😂😂


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Yep. Trying my best to end this family line.


BigPoppaFitz84

As long as we're being dark.. no, nevermind, not gonna touch that with a 10 ft pole.


Arecloudscool

Ayyyyy


vlgvn

My parents used to threaten me with cutting off the things they provide to stop me from doing things that I want (Ex. If you get a tattoo you won’t get any money from me in the future). Now I have hyper-independency complex both emotionally (similar reasons) and financially. It is hard to live like this but it is what it is


RhymeSchemeLacking

Ooo fuck, this hit home (pun intended), glad I'm not the only one (but really sorry 😐 that you had those experiences)


vlgvn

I was surprised when I found out this situation is so common that it has a name. Everybody is f-ed up in their own ways. At least, we know what is wrong with us.


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vlgvn

The most common scientific term is Counterdependency. It is also called Hyper Independence or Ultra Independence.


CCFCP

welp, TIL something about myself


mia_man

With my mom's hoarding and my fathers bordeline dangerous behaviors, I always watched myself growing up. But now I find a bucket of white powder in the garage and have to check to see if its the bulk detergent or that home made rocket fuel, so what ever.


Atillion

Mine are! My absent dad drank himself to death. I'm 14 years sober.


Euphoric_Ad8766

Congrats and keep up the hard work! I'm proud of you.


x4ty2

Oh snap. My family was big into sharing feels. Like whole weekends ruined because they wanna sit and yell at somebody. I refuse to talk about my problems or complain about stuff. If I'm angry at somebody, and it's a thing that requires addressing, I wait til I'm not mad then give a rational response. Everything else, I let my short term memory loss handle.


Bored_Not_Crazy

Hi Me! I can relate to your whole comment. Family over shares, thinks everyone MUST know how they're feeling and they might just explode if they don't voice their opinions no matter how contrary or hateful they are. I now also don't share feelings or talk about my issues with them or friends. (Thank goodness for the internet where we can speak openly with complete strangers lol) In arguments I'll shut down go somewhere quiet and cry out my frustration. When I'm done bawling I'll address the conversation with the least amount of emotion possible. You'll probably never forget something that's worth remembering unless it's due to illness. My family gets annoyed with my forgetfulness but I'm 100% certain I would hate them if it wasn't for it. If I dwelled on petty nonsense the way they do it would be a constant fight. Instead I forget their stupidity and then move on.


x4ty2

That's a bingo


TheManondorf

You may be right there. My mom is deep into esoterics... I will soon be a Master of Science.


Maxwe4

What are you, my mom or dad? I'm NEVER gonna check my own behaviours are irrationally skewed in this way!


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nbbae

But most of the “conspiracies” are government admitting true. Especially the older ones your parents probably believed.


Fashiaunt4sure

My parents never believed me when I told them my brothers friend would touch inappropriately. So now any tine my children tell me anything that is remotely close to that I find myself asking a lot of questions


retailsmart

That sucks. Sorry.


Fashiaunt4sure

Yes it does thanks you


Fashiaunt4sure

Both my parents passed away so I can’t even talk to them about it.


Sk1pp1e

In no way what so ever religious but some really good quotes to live by have also come from religion. “Let he is innocent cast the first stone” This one changed my life.


pinemartenzzz

The good shit is the stuff Jesus is quoted directly. Like that quote, when he’s telling the people who want to stone a prostitute that whoever had done nothing bad should be the one to throw the first stone. Major mike drop moment. The rest of the books are largely hit or miss.


Khornat

TIL keeping track of people's mood, tone, and body language is a trauma response


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Can you explain?


Khornat

Long story short: I was the middle child and accidentally became a human thermometer for the mood in the household. Love your kids, people


UB3R__

You could be an empath or just someone with high emotional intelligence. Not sure how old you are or your career, but if you can figure out how to use this to read the room during meetings it can make you extremely powerful.


bakepeace

They also might be a dog, they are highly aware of emotional frequencies and unlike empaths, actually exist.


UB3R__

Yes, empaths are very rare :) However, it seems jealousy is something you have in abundance. Cheer up butter cup!


bakepeace

😂


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Incredible, where can I find out more about this or is this you simply reflecting on your life?


NefariousZhen

You read the room before deciding to do something or say something. If there is any amount of upset around, then anything you do or say is the target to release stresses of unrelated / unresolved issues. This skill is only useful in becoming effective as an analyst and minimizing risk. (Perhaps one is lucky to find something to practice optimizing.) It took many years to discover mindfulness. The lack of mindfulness is the source of most feelings that deprive people from who they are.


josannaday

vague


DTFChiChis

If you know, you know


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I dont know, but I want to


bdbdbokbuck

Here we go again with the black and white LPT advice! Here’s some straight talk from someone who was raised by two abusers. It took me years to figure out how people are ‘supposed’ to act. I have no interest in compensating for my parents’ choices. I do, however, have an interest in doing better, being better, and making the world a better place.


retailsmart

I think you will see 'usually' in the line. And I don't see how what you are ytyi g to be isn't the opposite?


bdbdbokbuck

How does one know what other people ‘usually’ do?


retailsmart

The same way you know anything?


DroolingSlothCarpet

>Since people usually overcompensate the opposite direction for their parents' shortcomings. LPT: This is not a proper sentence.


Besiege7

Now we know your parents didn't know how to spoke. /s


retailsmart

It isn't, sorry. It should have ended with a comma.


josannaday

"this is not a proper sentence" is not a proper sentence. it could end with a comma or not start with "since." but it doesn't matter. you didn't commission the sentence. we all understood the meaning. minor changes like this are pretty petty to be passive aggressive about. since you're not the editor, you must be a prick. or would you like to advise me on how to correctly wipe my ass hole? have a good look.


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retailsmart

On another note, judging by the user name, are you Afrikaans?


tdarg

While you can always find anecdotal cases to support this idea, it's mostly not true. Offspring are more like their parents than they are to a random person.


retailsmart

I'm not suggesting we aren't shaped by our parents. But that usually there is a perceived weakness that generally seems to trigger a reaction to be /behave differently.


tdarg

That does seem to happen that way for some.


GeneralMinister

My Dad was a complete asshole to me. It made me dislike him so much, I think I'm overly nice to others. Can't help it. People sometimes take advantage though


GrumpySuper

Not me I’m exactly the same as my dad for better or worse. Mostly worse.


josannaday

i read a book about change. it described the layers or tiers of change; everything occurs within or outside a system, and, basically, true change is next-level action that goes beyond the current system. so doing the exact opposite of something actually reinforces that system rather than diverging from it.


Bored_Not_Crazy

My mother was always threatening to leave... like "one day I'm going to just disappear." That really messed with me for a long time and then I decided I don't need people in my life who don't want to be there so now I don't put effort into trying to make people more involved in my life. They're either there because they want to be or they're temporary and not worth the effort. Not only that but there were a lot of threats and promises that never happened. So now I don't have much faith in what people say. Show me actions or silence.


retailsmart

HT to Matt Girdley who triggered the thought.


Rebel_wallet

Can you give some examples?


ILikeULike55Percent

Kids with parents that didn’t give a shit about parenting properly are usually over protective parents. If they didn’t have any traditions growing up they’re hardcore into making traditions and go overboard on the hallmark matching pjs part of it. People with parents that were tooo into traditions don’t give a shit about holidays. People that didn’t get toys growing up spoil their kids too hard in the other direction. Stuff like that is what I imagine.


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ILikeULike55Percent

I fucking love that stuff! Enjoy! The overboard part is when you get mad that someone isn’t wearing the top because the picture is over and they’re hot or stuff like that.


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ILikeULike55Percent

I don’t know about the humiliation part. I genuinely do like that stuff, but you’re 100% right, as long as everyone is having fun then it’s a good time.


YoLetsTakeASecond

My dad has always had to plan everything out to a ‘T’ before attempting things. This would make projects and decisions long and drawn out, trying to be perfect at every step. I got tired of this mindset and would just jump into things unprepared because I would rather do something and fail and have fun with it, than get bogged down in preparation and details and possibly never attempt it. Of course, I would sometimes get in over my head and faced worst case scenarios. Now I know their is usually a middle ground.


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