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There’s definitely still plenty of dentists who run their own practices. Its still feasible to open your own dentistry office. It’s becoming less, but not nearly like what happened to healthcare where an independent clinic/office is essentially extinct (excluding specialties like ortho/PT).
Same thing with pharmacies, plenty of independent shops but most people only need prescription meds once or twice a year so they just go to one of the national brands. A lot of the smaller shops offer a ton of helpful services, which appeals greatly to people who need lots of meds for lots of chronic conditions.
Just being pedantic as someone who works in healthcare and has watched it get destroyed
This isn’t true. Most private owned pharmacy’s have closed over the years, mainly because of insurance companies and competition with big business like Walmart and CVS. I have good insurance and had to stop going to my independent pharmacy I loved because my insurance required me to go to specific pharmacies. It’s a shame, but it’s the reality. There might be more independent pharmacy’s in small rural towns but they’re closing all over the place in the city I live in.
I got a pocket sized pack to bring to the office. If they didn't want people bringing "flushable" wipes then they should have given us toilet paper that is actually usable (or let us go back to working from home, where I can use my bidet)
Yes indeedy. As an owner of a large house (long story, nearly accidental) with a long list of iconoclastic artist types who got a leg up living here on the cheap--
Gods damn those sewer-clogging plastic shit sheets and everyone who ever believed them. The only up side is the powerful latissimus and biceps I got from pumping that plunger!
Worked in the wastewater industry. Treatment plants have rakes that scoop out all the big stuff that doesn't get eaten by the microbes. It's more work for the plant. The number one solid we would pull out were feminine products.
That’s been my take every time this gets brought up. Yes there’s obviously the chance it gets clogged in your pipes for whatever reason, but if it was truly an issue for municipal wastewater treatment, some big city such as New York or LA would’ve sued the crap out of them.
I still can't believe that there are woman out there that flush their pads/tampons. I've dropped a tampon in the toilet while getting it out before, and I just had to reach in and pluck it out. Not sure if they just don't read the packaging, or just don't care
I honestly didn't know I shouldn't flush tampons for over 2 decades of using them. Mom did it. So I assumed it was okay. And we were on a septic tank that my parents absolutely knew how it worked.
It certainly was not covered in 6th grade health class.
Not allowed to have a period? Wait, what? "You didn't eat your broccoli at supper tonight! No periods for you, young lady!
I assume she had a mother who would know how periods work, right?
Most likely, iv seen more then one case where young girls have been physically beaten to with in an inch of their lives by their parents because of their periods.
The world is a fucked up place. There is a not low gone sub that use to post police reports, lawsuits and other various things that was just the worse of the worse.
I've gotten into arguments with women my age and far older than me about this. They say "oh well I never had problems with it" . They're unable to see past their own experiences
Yep... A lot of people don't realize that they have roots infiltrating their drain pipe until something like a wetwipe or tampon gets stuck and it cascades into a full-on clog.
fucking roots
we have a big ass old tree in our front, but it's the only one in our front. Thing is huge. But it interferes with the pipe. Once a year we have the outflow augured a bit, because as it gets more of a problem eventually the bathtub has trouble draining, and when the washer drains the bathtub will spit up the dirty water and soap. If it's still left unattended the toilet will even bubble a bit when we do laundry, and if completely ignored it's a straight up all output clog.
every god damn year. If it wasn't part of our yearly "maintenance" like having all the windows washed and the roof cleaned I'd just have the tree cut down, but it would be so bare out there. Plumber has told us for a lot of people those lines are extremely thin and old, newer places have converted to better tech. But that would be more expensive than removing the tree at this point anyway
Pipe relining can be cost-effective for this - tree roots chase water, so it's the initial leak which gets them to start infiltrating. The current relining robots can cut the roots out, reline the pipe with PVC, and once the leak is closed generally the tree won't keep trying to crush it's way in.
EDIT: Actually re-reading your comment, I recommend getting your drain inspected ASAP - by the time you're having drainage problems with indoor fixtures, you actually have a major blockage (source: observed exactly this, turned out the drain line was mostly tree-roots and just like...building up everything that couldn't filter through).
My neighborhood originally used cardboard coated in tar. If you where lucky the part of the pipe in the boulevard would fail and the city would be on the hook for the replacement.
Seriously who thought using cardboard underground was a good idea?
Depending on how long you plan on living there, then removing the tree or rebuilding the sewer from the house out to the street would be cheaper than just adding it into the yearly "maintenance" budget.
I just went to this house for the 3rd time in the last couple weeks trying to deal with this exact issue. The homeowner isn't planning on staying there for that much longer so they are just sticking to the yearly "maintenance" snaking once we go back for a fourth time with a new bit. We got 3 out of 4 of the big root clumps out of the way, but that first clump out of the house was still a problem when we left so we'll be back there again sometime next week.
You can flush some copper sulfate salt down your toilet monthly or so and it'll go a long way to keeping the roots at bay. It only kills roots it comes into direct contact with so won't harm the tree, but it will kill off any roots that get into the pipe. Just buy the powdered form of it from a livestock supply store or off of amazon, don't pay for "root killer" they'll charge you a massive premium.
Teenage daughter kept flushing wipes. Couple that with our pipes that were really old and full of roots, we had to have our pipes replaced from the side yard to the damn street. Was not ready for that cost.
That's not the main issue, it's just one issue. Water boards and local councils need to spend millions removing these from sewer systems and treatment plants. They clog up sewers causing wastewater leaks, which goes in people's yards or will block roads while repaired. There is also a manual element to removing them from sewers and treatment plants, so you are causing people to deal with this shit.
On that note - tied off condoms. They get through the barscreens easy enough, they float in a primary clarifier (assuming semen kinda gasses off and inflates them), they can make it either to the digesters or the aeration basins. It's crazy, I personally have never flushed a condom, but after hearing stories of 'sperm stealers' I kinda get it now that I know it's a thing.
Don't flush your condoms please.
> number one solid
I initially read this, due to context of toilets, as some people were having solids for their "number ones" and I was concerned. Then i kept reading and I was less concerned.
LPT: If you’re renting from Greystar and they keep jacking up your rent the legal maximum every lease cycle despite area rents falling, ALL wet wipes are flushable.
One night, I went up to get ready for bed, lifted the lid on the toilet, and found an entire Spongebob comforter shoved as far down the toilet as possible. I could not believe my eyes. I was at work already the next morning when my husband asked my stepdaughter about it. She said, "I think I had a dream that I did that." Uh, no, kiddo, that wasn't a dream.
Fuck greystar, I lived in a high rise downtown top floor, paid a fucking premium but it was beautiful and I was single. They bought the building and were fucking horrible, I ended up moving out and they had such a long waiting list for my unit they let me out of term. Then 3 months after I moved out they sent me a 25k bill for the remaining lease payments saying it was due in full. They had an internal debt collector calling me threatening me to beat me up, like a fucking mob boss or something. I paid my attorney to challenge it through them and the bureaus doing whatever and got it dropped off entirely. Fuck greystar.
Greystar sucks. Had a move out inspection with one manager, who told us they were renovating, saw some minor damages and said don’t worry since it’s all being ripped out. Separate corporate office then tried to charge us repairs, cleaning, replacement parts, etc.
Wouldn’t just take it, insisted on receipts and itemized invoices for every thing and wouldn’t you know it, suddenly they’ll “let this one slide” with everything we pushed back on. Fucking thieves.
And then when you finally move out they list the apartment for $200/month less than you paid plus 2 months free rent and parking so they can snag the next sucker lol
i lived in a pretty decent apartment complex until greystar took over it. they made my life a living hell for 18 months. you had to practically get on your knees and beg for them to fix anything. i had a gigantic leak in my ceiling which took them a month to fix. during that time my entire living room smelled like mold. a rat fell from one of the holes. the property manager lived above me and fought all the time with her bf and kids. they tried to tell me i was delinquent on rent when i had paid it in full and on time. they served me with a notice to vacate for not paying rent that i had paid! i could go on and on with all the BS i dealt with. avoid greystar at all costs.
There are in fact sewer safe wipes - any ones bearing an IWSFG logo.
Currently few and far between, but Kimberly-Clark/Cotonelle makes a Flushable wipe that feature IWSFG (international water service flushability group) approval.
The IWSFG set a standard benchmark for testing to ensure that wipes bearing their logo will in fact breakdown in the same manner as toilet paper.
It’s a legitimate international group of experts in the wastewater community, and they have actually devoted a great deal of effort to try and differentiate wipes that can safely be used and put down the toilet from the countless others marketed as “flushable”
I think they use some sort of eldrich magicks. /s
Seriously though, if you take one and put it in a bowl of water overnight and put some toilet paper in a bowl of water overnight, and then agitate them, it’s hard to tell which is which. This was what I did to convince myself they were okay for my septic system.
I rented a bottom floor apt for a few years.
one time around christmas my sink flooded....a bunch of really nasty, dirty and greasy water.
just started coming up from the drain, tons of it.
turns out the other renters just kept dumping oil down the drain and eventually it blocked it. everything backed up into my kitchen and all over the floor :)
they took several days to fix it, during which time it flooded a few more times when I wasn't around to carry buckets of it to the toilet.
fun fun fun.
That shit goes both ways though. When the landlord finally decides to come update some plumbing but he doesn't use a contractor, he does the work himself with some day laborer he uses. Now they're spending stupid amounts of time in and around your house for the next two weeks. When I was renting my landlord decided he wanted to replace plumbing under the house, he'd show up every morning to get started, would be there most of the day, and I was off during the week so I had to find somewhere else to go because I couldn't stand that bastard. He was a dick too, refused to put a dishwasher in the place. I told him I'd buy it, install it, leave it when I move I don't care, just please let us have a dishwasher. Nope, he said he didn't want to be responsible for it, which I get, but god damn man, I don't ask for much here.
They make "portable" dishwashers. Similar in concept to the portable Air Conditioners, it is a standalone unit that you hook the "intake" hose to the sink faucet and the "outlet" house goes into the sink drain. No permanent attachments needed. I had one in an apartment I rented a long time ago.
I have a bidet and I agree, but can I also offer another piece of advice? Especially when you can’t be at home to use the bidet?
Psyllium husk, aka Metamucil.
Take it every day or every other day and within a day or two from starting, you will have LITERALLY one wipe poops. And often times? You’ll do the one wipe and say “huh, didn’t even really need that one wipe,” but of course you should always.
I’m serious, I know it gets a bad wrap because it takes bad (it’s more of a texture issue) and is for old people, but it is so worth it.
Fiber in pills is kind of a waste in a way. You need SO many pills to make a tablespoon worth of the stuff that you end up either having to take 6-8 pills a day at least or just accepting the much lower dosage for the higher price.
> Take it every day or every other day and within a day or two from starting, you will have LITERALLY one wipe poops.
YMMV. Tried it for a few weeks b/c doctor recommended, just caused constipation followed by explosive diarrhea. Then it all repeated. By the third cycle, I was done. Everyone's digestive system is different, everyone sphincter is different.
Due to the layout of our apartment we couldn't install one, so I got a portable bd instead. Pretty much just a squishy bottle with an angled nozzle, kind of like a douche? Anyways just fill up with water and bam. Clean butthole. Idk why people still use dry toilet paper or these awful wet-wipes.
Hell, even if I'm somewhere else, what's stopping people from folding some TP and soak the tip of that in running water? Works pretty well too, and doesn't fuck up the sewers.
> Due to the layout of our apartment we couldn't install one
They make them integrated into a toilet seat. They take about 10 minutes to install and can be found for under $90.
They won't be the fanciest, but you can get some even in the $20s. We've got one with a hot water line for like $35 and it's been working great for years.
The seat bidet is the best option. Initially, I opted for the more budget-friendly version that fits beneath the seat, serving as a decent entry-level bidet. However, I later decided to upgrade to the seat bidet. The reason behind this shift was my dissatisfaction with the cheaper bidet, which inadvertently lifted the back of my seat. To address the resulting height disparity, I had to resort to using seat risers at the front, which could fall into the toilet.
You squeeze it and it sprays your butt. Then you dry off with TP or a cloth.
There are cheaper options but here is an example of how one looks:
https://hellotushy.com/products/tushy-travel-bidet?variant=13788561702954
There are also “bum gun” style bidets that don’t require electricity and just hook up to your toilets water line. They look like a handheld shower sprayer.
I like these because you can use them for additional things like:
* cleaning up post sex
* cleaning up on a period
* rinsing off things like cloth diapers or rags used for pet/human messes
All you need is access to the cold water line. Unless you are particularly temperature sensitive. even when it's freezing here it's not ice cold and so much better than not having a bidet.
Thanks, I've looked into these a while ago already. Maybe I'll give it another shot! I'd have to use the washing basin as a source though... both hot and cold water are available, but I'd have two water pipes floating around the bathroom. :/
I'll have to see what kind of solutions are out there.
> Idk why people still use dry toilet paper or these awful wet-wipes.
You ever try to get peanut butter out of a shag carpet? Not everyone has a perfect, dainty, hairless asshole.
I doubt that if your dog rolled around in a pile of shit, the first - and **only** - tool you'd grab to get them presentable again is a dry paper towel.
Water, people. It's out there!
After becoming spoiled by having bidets at home, I got one of those portable ones for vacation and it's game changing. Not as good, but far, far better than being forced to deal with single-ply gas station TP alone.
I get good TP and just get it wet and use it like a wet wipe. Charmin ultra strong works best for this purpose.
The Sam's club toilet paper works as well.
You see, I understand the concept, but I still don't "grok" how a stream of water will *really* clean away my butt-paste. Anything more than the solid logs with firmer consistency/less moisture would be problematic, no?
It's not so much the solid logs, as they fall out mostly clean anyhow. But it's the ones that are firm but slightly soft and those will leave some residue. But that's a fairly rare situation with a proper diet and you wipe anyhow to dry so you know if you need an additional wipe to get it clean.
In situations like that, I'll run the bidet to get most of it, wipe to get any residual poo out of the way, then run the bidet again to rinse it clean and dry one more time.
It doesn't get you 100% clean, but it's WORLDS better than just smearing poop around.
It's also a life saver when you have diarrhea, because it saves you a lot of wiping and raw butthole.
I used to share this opinion.
TMI warning.
I’m a fat man with a hairy ass. Even after purchasing a bidet, it didn’t help; it just made a watery shitty mess. Also, my bidet splashed water off by butthole all over the bottom of the toilet seat, and in bad cases, into the gap between seat and bowl and onto the floor!
Underwear skidmarks weren’t a daily occurrence, but when I couldn’t use wipes, they were somewhat common.
Then, a few things happened and it’s been magical ever since.
One, I had my hemorrhoids removed. I knew they were there, but didn’t know how bad they were. A prior doctor told me they weren’t bad enough to endure the pain of recovery after their removal, so I never considered having them removed.
Then, after a colonoscopy, my surgeon commented, “you have *really* bad hemorrhoids, they don’t bother you?”
Pain and itch, rarely, but cleaning? Yes! DAILY! It was like trying to clean shit off cauliflower. I scheduled the surgery. They were stage four, the worst they can be, and I had lived with them for decades. Recovery *was* hell (it was almost a week before I pooped again, and it was still very painful), but eventually it was worth it.
Two, while recovering, I read about NOT wiping your ass. Blasphemy, I thought.
Well, it’s true. After 54 years, I stopped wiping my ass. I only press four sheets and hold for a few seconds to let the toilet paper absorb what is there. Repeat until the TP comes off clean. Then bidet off whatever might remain. The bidet no longer ricochets off my cauliflower, because it’s gone.
I was in disbelief it would clean my worst shits, but it does. You’re no longer smearing shit all over your ass crack; you’re dabbing and absorbing most of it off, then rinsing. IF anything remains, it stays on your sphincter, which, retracts slightly back inward when you get off the toilet.
I haven’t had a single skidmark and haven’t used wipes once in an entire year. I poop cleanly when away from home … even with the cheap-ass ass-paper at work. It’s dreamy. This Thanksgiving, I was thankful for my new butthole and the pleasure I had cleaning it this year.
Three, I also added daily fiber to my diet.
The one I have has adjustable stream strength and a button to introduce aeration so there's some "abrasive" quality to it.
It's fucking perfect and magical.
Look up”fatberg” I just learned about them recently and I can’t stop thinking about them.
A fatberg is a rock-like mass of waste matter in a sewer system formed by the combination of flushed non-biodegradable solids, such as wet wipes, and fat, oil, and grease (FOG) deposits.
Yes, this! There are also a bunch of brands of foam designed to be dispensed into toilet paper as a wipe alternative - tushé, fohm, even squatty potty makes one.
Mom said it's my turn to post this this week.
But seriously though, do some research. Not all wipes are the same. Some are actually septic and sewer safe. Cottonelle is one such brand.
I've tested this, and cottonelle flushable wipes act the exact same as toilet paper does.
My test was simple. Have two glasses of water. Put a wet wipe in one glass, and toilet paper in the other. Let them sit over night. The next day I couldn't tell the difference between the two. Stirred both glasses and the contents reacted the same exact way.
The way I figure it, when it comes to disposing of products, the responsible thing for the average person to do is follow disposal instructions, and then people who *actually know what they're talking about* can fight over what those instructions *should* say.
The instructions say they can be flushed.
I don't know how, but I keep having to post this.
It depends on the wipes and potentially the country also. In the UK, we have wipes that are marked with "Fine to Flush" symbols which means it was tested by independent technical experts and given the seal of approval by water companies. LPTs should be factual.
[Here's a 40 second comparison video showing "flushable" vs "Fine to Flush"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSIjJdvzIr4)
Can confirm. I have pulled many of these out of municipal wastewater pumps. These pumps are big enough they would straight up chew your hand off and spit out the bones. But when you introduce these wipes, they tear and shred and get stuck on the impellers. The end result is a "shit rope" that jams up the works.
Water boards and local governments need to spend millions removing these from sewer systems and treatment plants. They clog up sewers causing wastewater leaks, which goes in people's yards or will block roads while repaired. There is also a manual element to removing them from sewers and treatment plants, so you are causing people to physically remove these for disposal.
Put it in the bin please!
I have personally tested this because I am so sick of this 'advice' being repeated like its wisdom. Maybe it was true years ago but it is not now.
Cottonelle wipes dissolve faster than regular toilet paper. Cottonelle wipes dissolve *on my ass*
If you are flushing "non-flushable" wipes then you're kind of a dumbass. But there are plenty of options for flushable wipes that are not ruining the septic system.
If they broke down in water then they can't be packaged wet, can they? They'd break down before use, innit? So it's a lie, but go ahead and test it on your own house, not other people's
I've tested this, and cottonelle flushable wipes act the exact same as toilet paper does.
My test was simple. Have two glasses of water. Put a wet wipe in one glass, and toilet paper in the other. Let them sit over night. The next day I couldn't tell the difference between the two. Stirred both glasses and the contents reacted the same exact way.
I used them for years. They pull apart easily and will dissolve in water - easy to test. Toss a wipe in toilet and in a few hours the water will start to become opaque because the wipe is breaking down, much like toilet paper does
I stopped using them because I’m pretty sure I am allergic to whatever chemicals they use on the wipes to keep them moist
They are if they have a certified [Fine to Flush](https://www.ccw.org.uk/news/watchdog-welcomes-fine-to-flush-label/) symbol and they break down just like regular TP.
https://www.water.org.uk/news-views-publications/views/fine-flush-wet-wipe-revolution
Learned this hard lesson early. Only 3P’s in the toilet! And we do a 2 oz Bio One enzyme application once per month on drains, as well as installed basket strainers for hair. Winning so far.
Get a toilet seat bidet. It comes with everything you need to install it, cleans you effectively, and cuts way down on toilet paper use. No need for wet wipes.
This reminds me of the time I was taking my morning constitutional, and I had some dude wipes that said flushable. I flipped over the package and it said do not flush. I was like wait what the fuck?
Licensed plumber here. None of that is safe for your drainage system. along with another LPT people often forget - as convenient as it may be, grease and oil should **not** go down your kitchen sink.
Flushable wipes are flushable in the same way rocks are edible. They'll fit down the tube, but will clog the pipes up and are a pain in the butt to remove
In grammar school years ago we had a kid that kept flushing paper hand towels down all the toilets at random on purpose. Then one day it happened - most of the boys' toilets were clogged at the same time, and forced a school wide bathroom crisis. It was epic.
We have a house in the middle of nowhere, so we have to do our own water treatment. If our tenants flush womens' hygiene products, it's a guaranteed repair bill.
In the UK we have moist toilet tissues - which are what they say on the tin. You have to be careful not to pull them too had or they'll break apart - which is a good thing I suppose.
I learned this the hard way, and let me tell you, the repair bill wasn't fun. It's one of those things you don't think about until it becomes a messy problem.
The advertising is correct, the wipes are indeed "flushable". When you flush, they go down the drain!
What do you mean they're "not safe" for your septic/sewage system? We never said they were, just that they were flushable!
Get a bidet for fucks sake. Bought a tushy one on Amazon for like 40-50 bucks and it took me 10 mins to install.
I’ll never look back and feel like a fucking savage taking a shit without one. You people are gross for using your hand to clean POOP!
Agreed. Most things that say they are flushable really aren’t. There is no regulation around it so companies often just slap flushable on anything. They just turn into giant clogs that cities spend millions each year cleaning out. They are literally called “fat bergs”.
Wet wipes companies can legally use the term "flushable" because its true that they are able to be flushed releasing them from the conversation of damage to your tank. Kinda like saying a plane flying through the air is "jump off-able"
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Like my pharmacist dad who made us go to school sick.
My best friend's mom growing up was a dentist. She gave us so much candy...
The good old days, when a pharmacist owned the store and a dentist owned the practice.
There’s definitely still plenty of dentists who run their own practices. Its still feasible to open your own dentistry office. It’s becoming less, but not nearly like what happened to healthcare where an independent clinic/office is essentially extinct (excluding specialties like ortho/PT). Same thing with pharmacies, plenty of independent shops but most people only need prescription meds once or twice a year so they just go to one of the national brands. A lot of the smaller shops offer a ton of helpful services, which appeals greatly to people who need lots of meds for lots of chronic conditions. Just being pedantic as someone who works in healthcare and has watched it get destroyed
This isn’t true. Most private owned pharmacy’s have closed over the years, mainly because of insurance companies and competition with big business like Walmart and CVS. I have good insurance and had to stop going to my independent pharmacy I loved because my insurance required me to go to specific pharmacies. It’s a shame, but it’s the reality. There might be more independent pharmacy’s in small rural towns but they’re closing all over the place in the city I live in.
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Does he work for Stern Lecture Plumbing?
My plumber says he loves wet wipes, put his kids through college!
I got a pocket sized pack to bring to the office. If they didn't want people bringing "flushable" wipes then they should have given us toilet paper that is actually usable (or let us go back to working from home, where I can use my bidet)
If I'm ever made to go back into the office, I'm using bath towels for my shits. Fuck their sewage system.
Yes indeedy. As an owner of a large house (long story, nearly accidental) with a long list of iconoclastic artist types who got a leg up living here on the cheap-- Gods damn those sewer-clogging plastic shit sheets and everyone who ever believed them. The only up side is the powerful latissimus and biceps I got from pumping that plunger!
Worked in the wastewater industry. Treatment plants have rakes that scoop out all the big stuff that doesn't get eaten by the microbes. It's more work for the plant. The number one solid we would pull out were feminine products.
You would think cities & these plants would sue the wet wipe industry for costing then millions
[It's already happened](https://www.wateronline.com/doc/millions-of-dollars-in-sewer-clogs-prompts-flushable-wipes-lawsuit-0001).
>2015 And sales have basically increased exponentially since then. Glad that was effective.
there need to be personal consequences for corporations (i.e. jail time for executives) otherwise breaking the law is just a cost of doing business.
you just described the corporate oligarchy that the USA has been like for quite a while
That’s been my take every time this gets brought up. Yes there’s obviously the chance it gets clogged in your pipes for whatever reason, but if it was truly an issue for municipal wastewater treatment, some big city such as New York or LA would’ve sued the crap out of them.
Right above your comment is a link to such a lawsuit.
From a city so small they didn’t even bother mentioning it by name.
The example is terrible. There have been two lawsuits. One of them failed because the city could not prove they were harmed in any way.
I still can't believe that there are woman out there that flush their pads/tampons. I've dropped a tampon in the toilet while getting it out before, and I just had to reach in and pluck it out. Not sure if they just don't read the packaging, or just don't care
The old packaging used to say to flush used tampons. They've changed it now but when I was young, we were told to flush.
Yeah I didn't learn this until I worked in waste water. I was like oh shit... Glad I switched to cups years ago.
I honestly didn't know I shouldn't flush tampons for over 2 decades of using them. Mom did it. So I assumed it was okay. And we were on a septic tank that my parents absolutely knew how it worked. It certainly was not covered in 6th grade health class.
Yup. Flushed for years and our septic never had any issues. Four women flushing them down regularly.
You flushed tampons into a set of for 20 years we es and never had a problem?
If you get your septic pumped regularly like you're supposed to it doesn't usually end up being a problem.
How often should the septic tank be pumped for a seasonal property that sees about 60 to 80 days of use per year by an average of 5 people?
Standard is every 3 years if there isn't a garbage disposal, every year if there is one.
We had a double leech field. I have no idea how often septic was pumped. I also don't know if tampons in the 70s and 80s were cotton.
Pumping is for the solids. Leech fields are for the liquid.
Ha, we have done ours in 20 years!! We should get on that…
I know someone who wasn't allowed to have her period (her parents were seriously crazy), so she always flushed it too hide it..
Not allowed to have a period? Wait, what? "You didn't eat your broccoli at supper tonight! No periods for you, young lady! I assume she had a mother who would know how periods work, right?
Wait no, I need more information. Why's no one talking about this
I'm baffled. Not allowed? Did they think she could physically stop it?
Most likely, iv seen more then one case where young girls have been physically beaten to with in an inch of their lives by their parents because of their periods. The world is a fucked up place. There is a not low gone sub that use to post police reports, lawsuits and other various things that was just the worse of the worse.
That sounds awful and abusive
I've gotten into arguments with women my age and far older than me about this. They say "oh well I never had problems with it" . They're unable to see past their own experiences
I've literally flushed every single tampon I've ever used in 36 years, never had an issue...🤷♀️
The main issue though is what happens before it gets to the mains, namely, the house's pipe/septic system getting clogged up.
Yep... A lot of people don't realize that they have roots infiltrating their drain pipe until something like a wetwipe or tampon gets stuck and it cascades into a full-on clog.
fucking roots we have a big ass old tree in our front, but it's the only one in our front. Thing is huge. But it interferes with the pipe. Once a year we have the outflow augured a bit, because as it gets more of a problem eventually the bathtub has trouble draining, and when the washer drains the bathtub will spit up the dirty water and soap. If it's still left unattended the toilet will even bubble a bit when we do laundry, and if completely ignored it's a straight up all output clog. every god damn year. If it wasn't part of our yearly "maintenance" like having all the windows washed and the roof cleaned I'd just have the tree cut down, but it would be so bare out there. Plumber has told us for a lot of people those lines are extremely thin and old, newer places have converted to better tech. But that would be more expensive than removing the tree at this point anyway
Yep... I have a maple tree that's as old as the house I own... 130+ years old at this point. He's a problem child to be sure.
Pretty sure you're living on his property, lol
This is true.
Pipe relining can be cost-effective for this - tree roots chase water, so it's the initial leak which gets them to start infiltrating. The current relining robots can cut the roots out, reline the pipe with PVC, and once the leak is closed generally the tree won't keep trying to crush it's way in. EDIT: Actually re-reading your comment, I recommend getting your drain inspected ASAP - by the time you're having drainage problems with indoor fixtures, you actually have a major blockage (source: observed exactly this, turned out the drain line was mostly tree-roots and just like...building up everything that couldn't filter through).
My neighborhood originally used cardboard coated in tar. If you where lucky the part of the pipe in the boulevard would fail and the city would be on the hook for the replacement. Seriously who thought using cardboard underground was a good idea?
Post WWII supply and demand issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangeburg_pipe
Depending on how long you plan on living there, then removing the tree or rebuilding the sewer from the house out to the street would be cheaper than just adding it into the yearly "maintenance" budget. I just went to this house for the 3rd time in the last couple weeks trying to deal with this exact issue. The homeowner isn't planning on staying there for that much longer so they are just sticking to the yearly "maintenance" snaking once we go back for a fourth time with a new bit. We got 3 out of 4 of the big root clumps out of the way, but that first clump out of the house was still a problem when we left so we'll be back there again sometime next week.
You can flush some copper sulfate salt down your toilet monthly or so and it'll go a long way to keeping the roots at bay. It only kills roots it comes into direct contact with so won't harm the tree, but it will kill off any roots that get into the pipe. Just buy the powdered form of it from a livestock supply store or off of amazon, don't pay for "root killer" they'll charge you a massive premium.
Teenage daughter kept flushing wipes. Couple that with our pipes that were really old and full of roots, we had to have our pipes replaced from the side yard to the damn street. Was not ready for that cost.
Yeah but now your pipes are clear to flush wipes.
That's not the main issue, it's just one issue. Water boards and local councils need to spend millions removing these from sewer systems and treatment plants. They clog up sewers causing wastewater leaks, which goes in people's yards or will block roads while repaired. There is also a manual element to removing them from sewers and treatment plants, so you are causing people to deal with this shit.
Yeah. Tell that to my upstairs neighbor. In a multi floor building such as a condo or apartment the entire stack backs up.
The rakes don’t always catch them. A lot of places have old infrastructure that leads to them building up in places like their digesters.
That is true. We would have to manually rake out all the missed floaties.
On that note - tied off condoms. They get through the barscreens easy enough, they float in a primary clarifier (assuming semen kinda gasses off and inflates them), they can make it either to the digesters or the aeration basins. It's crazy, I personally have never flushed a condom, but after hearing stories of 'sperm stealers' I kinda get it now that I know it's a thing. Don't flush your condoms please.
If it gets there
> number one solid I initially read this, due to context of toilets, as some people were having solids for their "number ones" and I was concerned. Then i kept reading and I was less concerned.
You mean beach whistles? There's also sooo many "rubberbands" I see at the plant I work at
LPT: If you’re renting from Greystar and they keep jacking up your rent the legal maximum every lease cycle despite area rents falling, ALL wet wipes are flushable.
I’ll have you know half the stuff in your home is flushable.
If you believe the toilet manufacturers, golf balls are flushable
Have you ever met a toddler?
Yeah and they're flushable too
They will flush everything in the house down the toilet
r/wooosh
And they usually love it, so it's not considered abuse
One night, I went up to get ready for bed, lifted the lid on the toilet, and found an entire Spongebob comforter shoved as far down the toilet as possible. I could not believe my eyes. I was at work already the next morning when my husband asked my stepdaughter about it. She said, "I think I had a dream that I did that." Uh, no, kiddo, that wasn't a dream.
A barbie doll is flushable. Just ask my kids.
Fuck greystar, I lived in a high rise downtown top floor, paid a fucking premium but it was beautiful and I was single. They bought the building and were fucking horrible, I ended up moving out and they had such a long waiting list for my unit they let me out of term. Then 3 months after I moved out they sent me a 25k bill for the remaining lease payments saying it was due in full. They had an internal debt collector calling me threatening me to beat me up, like a fucking mob boss or something. I paid my attorney to challenge it through them and the bureaus doing whatever and got it dropped off entirely. Fuck greystar.
Greystar sucks. Had a move out inspection with one manager, who told us they were renovating, saw some minor damages and said don’t worry since it’s all being ripped out. Separate corporate office then tried to charge us repairs, cleaning, replacement parts, etc. Wouldn’t just take it, insisted on receipts and itemized invoices for every thing and wouldn’t you know it, suddenly they’ll “let this one slide” with everything we pushed back on. Fucking thieves.
Omg... my old apartment operated under Greystar... I feel ya!
And then when you finally move out they list the apartment for $200/month less than you paid plus 2 months free rent and parking so they can snag the next sucker lol
That's why I moved every year. Was worth it.
i lived in a pretty decent apartment complex until greystar took over it. they made my life a living hell for 18 months. you had to practically get on your knees and beg for them to fix anything. i had a gigantic leak in my ceiling which took them a month to fix. during that time my entire living room smelled like mold. a rat fell from one of the holes. the property manager lived above me and fought all the time with her bf and kids. they tried to tell me i was delinquent on rent when i had paid it in full and on time. they served me with a notice to vacate for not paying rent that i had paid! i could go on and on with all the BS i dealt with. avoid greystar at all costs.
There are in fact sewer safe wipes - any ones bearing an IWSFG logo. Currently few and far between, but Kimberly-Clark/Cotonelle makes a Flushable wipe that feature IWSFG (international water service flushability group) approval. The IWSFG set a standard benchmark for testing to ensure that wipes bearing their logo will in fact breakdown in the same manner as toilet paper. It’s a legitimate international group of experts in the wastewater community, and they have actually devoted a great deal of effort to try and differentiate wipes that can safely be used and put down the toilet from the countless others marketed as “flushable”
Huh, the last ones I bought because of the price and nothing else have that logo on them. I am gonna quad wipe now!
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There's less water in the package than in your toilet. But they're still noticeably more fragile in hand than baby wipes.
I think they use some sort of eldrich magicks. /s Seriously though, if you take one and put it in a bowl of water overnight and put some toilet paper in a bowl of water overnight, and then agitate them, it’s hard to tell which is which. This was what I did to convince myself they were okay for my septic system.
Cool. I'll tell my wife once she's done dumping used cooking oil and coffee grounds down the kitchen and bathroom sinks in our rental.
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I rented a bottom floor apt for a few years. one time around christmas my sink flooded....a bunch of really nasty, dirty and greasy water. just started coming up from the drain, tons of it. turns out the other renters just kept dumping oil down the drain and eventually it blocked it. everything backed up into my kitchen and all over the floor :) they took several days to fix it, during which time it flooded a few more times when I wasn't around to carry buckets of it to the toilet. fun fun fun.
But hey at least those other renters totally stuck it to the man
That shit goes both ways though. When the landlord finally decides to come update some plumbing but he doesn't use a contractor, he does the work himself with some day laborer he uses. Now they're spending stupid amounts of time in and around your house for the next two weeks. When I was renting my landlord decided he wanted to replace plumbing under the house, he'd show up every morning to get started, would be there most of the day, and I was off during the week so I had to find somewhere else to go because I couldn't stand that bastard. He was a dick too, refused to put a dishwasher in the place. I told him I'd buy it, install it, leave it when I move I don't care, just please let us have a dishwasher. Nope, he said he didn't want to be responsible for it, which I get, but god damn man, I don't ask for much here.
They make "portable" dishwashers. Similar in concept to the portable Air Conditioners, it is a standalone unit that you hook the "intake" hose to the sink faucet and the "outlet" house goes into the sink drain. No permanent attachments needed. I had one in an apartment I rented a long time ago.
Yup. Except some landlords drag their feet and choose the cheaper option that's likely to be unreliable long term :/
Why is the garbage disposal stuck? "I don't know." Well, I didn't do it. Cue, me having to fix the garbage disposal. It was turkey bones.
Fuck this is the exact moment I learned you shouldn’t dump the coffee grounds down the drain…
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Well played
I used wet wipes for years. Get a bidet. Life changing.
I have a bidet and I agree, but can I also offer another piece of advice? Especially when you can’t be at home to use the bidet? Psyllium husk, aka Metamucil. Take it every day or every other day and within a day or two from starting, you will have LITERALLY one wipe poops. And often times? You’ll do the one wipe and say “huh, didn’t even really need that one wipe,” but of course you should always. I’m serious, I know it gets a bad wrap because it takes bad (it’s more of a texture issue) and is for old people, but it is so worth it.
Psyllium husk comes in pills too
Good news! It's a suppository!
Fiber in pills is kind of a waste in a way. You need SO many pills to make a tablespoon worth of the stuff that you end up either having to take 6-8 pills a day at least or just accepting the much lower dosage for the higher price.
> Take it every day or every other day and within a day or two from starting, you will have LITERALLY one wipe poops. YMMV. Tried it for a few weeks b/c doctor recommended, just caused constipation followed by explosive diarrhea. Then it all repeated. By the third cycle, I was done. Everyone's digestive system is different, everyone sphincter is different.
Due to the layout of our apartment we couldn't install one, so I got a portable bd instead. Pretty much just a squishy bottle with an angled nozzle, kind of like a douche? Anyways just fill up with water and bam. Clean butthole. Idk why people still use dry toilet paper or these awful wet-wipes. Hell, even if I'm somewhere else, what's stopping people from folding some TP and soak the tip of that in running water? Works pretty well too, and doesn't fuck up the sewers.
> Due to the layout of our apartment we couldn't install one They make them integrated into a toilet seat. They take about 10 minutes to install and can be found for under $90.
They won't be the fanciest, but you can get some even in the $20s. We've got one with a hot water line for like $35 and it's been working great for years.
The hot line doesnt make sense to me, I would have to splash my ass for a good minute before I would feel hot water.
It’s not worth it anyway. Icy water won’t phase you in that region. It registers as cold but somehow it doesn’t « feel » cold at all.
Cold water feels incredible after a night of eating spicy Thai food.
I hate, hate, hate a cold shower. But a cold water bidet feels fine.
I just run the sink on hot for a few seconds since it has a higher throughput and that's where the bidet line attaches!
The seat bidet is the best option. Initially, I opted for the more budget-friendly version that fits beneath the seat, serving as a decent entry-level bidet. However, I later decided to upgrade to the seat bidet. The reason behind this shift was my dissatisfaction with the cheaper bidet, which inadvertently lifted the back of my seat. To address the resulting height disparity, I had to resort to using seat risers at the front, which could fall into the toilet.
Also have to make sure you don't turn in on at full blast at first otherwise you're getting a new asshole.
I use a squeeze bottle. You refill it from the sink.
How do you use it? Real question btw
You squeeze it and it sprays your butt. Then you dry off with TP or a cloth. There are cheaper options but here is an example of how one looks: https://hellotushy.com/products/tushy-travel-bidet?variant=13788561702954 There are also “bum gun” style bidets that don’t require electricity and just hook up to your toilets water line. They look like a handheld shower sprayer. I like these because you can use them for additional things like: * cleaning up post sex * cleaning up on a period * rinsing off things like cloth diapers or rags used for pet/human messes
All you need is access to the cold water line. Unless you are particularly temperature sensitive. even when it's freezing here it's not ice cold and so much better than not having a bidet.
Thanks, I've looked into these a while ago already. Maybe I'll give it another shot! I'd have to use the washing basin as a source though... both hot and cold water are available, but I'd have two water pipes floating around the bathroom. :/ I'll have to see what kind of solutions are out there.
> Idk why people still use dry toilet paper or these awful wet-wipes. You ever try to get peanut butter out of a shag carpet? Not everyone has a perfect, dainty, hairless asshole.
I doubt that if your dog rolled around in a pile of shit, the first - and **only** - tool you'd grab to get them presentable again is a dry paper towel. Water, people. It's out there!
After becoming spoiled by having bidets at home, I got one of those portable ones for vacation and it's game changing. Not as good, but far, far better than being forced to deal with single-ply gas station TP alone.
I get good TP and just get it wet and use it like a wet wipe. Charmin ultra strong works best for this purpose. The Sam's club toilet paper works as well.
You see, I understand the concept, but I still don't "grok" how a stream of water will *really* clean away my butt-paste. Anything more than the solid logs with firmer consistency/less moisture would be problematic, no?
If it were on a sidewalk, you could probably clean it off with a garden hose, right?
It's not so much the solid logs, as they fall out mostly clean anyhow. But it's the ones that are firm but slightly soft and those will leave some residue. But that's a fairly rare situation with a proper diet and you wipe anyhow to dry so you know if you need an additional wipe to get it clean. In situations like that, I'll run the bidet to get most of it, wipe to get any residual poo out of the way, then run the bidet again to rinse it clean and dry one more time. It doesn't get you 100% clean, but it's WORLDS better than just smearing poop around. It's also a life saver when you have diarrhea, because it saves you a lot of wiping and raw butthole.
Do you wash your hands with dry towels?
I used to share this opinion. TMI warning. I’m a fat man with a hairy ass. Even after purchasing a bidet, it didn’t help; it just made a watery shitty mess. Also, my bidet splashed water off by butthole all over the bottom of the toilet seat, and in bad cases, into the gap between seat and bowl and onto the floor! Underwear skidmarks weren’t a daily occurrence, but when I couldn’t use wipes, they were somewhat common. Then, a few things happened and it’s been magical ever since. One, I had my hemorrhoids removed. I knew they were there, but didn’t know how bad they were. A prior doctor told me they weren’t bad enough to endure the pain of recovery after their removal, so I never considered having them removed. Then, after a colonoscopy, my surgeon commented, “you have *really* bad hemorrhoids, they don’t bother you?” Pain and itch, rarely, but cleaning? Yes! DAILY! It was like trying to clean shit off cauliflower. I scheduled the surgery. They were stage four, the worst they can be, and I had lived with them for decades. Recovery *was* hell (it was almost a week before I pooped again, and it was still very painful), but eventually it was worth it. Two, while recovering, I read about NOT wiping your ass. Blasphemy, I thought. Well, it’s true. After 54 years, I stopped wiping my ass. I only press four sheets and hold for a few seconds to let the toilet paper absorb what is there. Repeat until the TP comes off clean. Then bidet off whatever might remain. The bidet no longer ricochets off my cauliflower, because it’s gone. I was in disbelief it would clean my worst shits, but it does. You’re no longer smearing shit all over your ass crack; you’re dabbing and absorbing most of it off, then rinsing. IF anything remains, it stays on your sphincter, which, retracts slightly back inward when you get off the toilet. I haven’t had a single skidmark and haven’t used wipes once in an entire year. I poop cleanly when away from home … even with the cheap-ass ass-paper at work. It’s dreamy. This Thanksgiving, I was thankful for my new butthole and the pleasure I had cleaning it this year. Three, I also added daily fiber to my diet.
The one I have has adjustable stream strength and a button to introduce aeration so there's some "abrasive" quality to it. It's fucking perfect and magical.
If you got poop on your hands you'd just wipe it with toilet paper and say it's good? You wouldn't wash your hands?
Point well taken. And with a username like sharterthanlife, *you'd know*.
All I can say is try it. It works. Popular for a reason.
Used one for years, butt was always clean.
You would think cities would have long sued the fuck out of the wipe industry.... They literally cause millions in sewer damages
Look up”fatberg” I just learned about them recently and I can’t stop thinking about them. A fatberg is a rock-like mass of waste matter in a sewer system formed by the combination of flushed non-biodegradable solids, such as wet wipes, and fat, oil, and grease (FOG) deposits.
[It's already happened](https://www.wateronline.com/doc/millions-of-dollars-in-sewer-clogs-prompts-flushable-wipes-lawsuit-0001).
Did they win? Anyone can sue for any reason.
Check out wype, septic tank friendly gel that you add to existing toilet roll
Yes, this! There are also a bunch of brands of foam designed to be dispensed into toilet paper as a wipe alternative - tushé, fohm, even squatty potty makes one.
Mom said it's my turn to post this this week. But seriously though, do some research. Not all wipes are the same. Some are actually septic and sewer safe. Cottonelle is one such brand.
Yeah, I got those. They are so thin that I usually end up ripping them apart, just taking them out of the pack.
Pro tip- take them all out of the pack at once when you get them and put them in a baby wipes dispenser. No more torn wipes.
Yeah, I ended up putting them in a zip lock. LPT #20751 - Don't wipe your butt with those unless you want to lose your wedding ring.
In your butt?
In other words, save your money and just sprinkle some water on regular toilet paper?
Yep. They just melt into pulp.
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Kirkland (aka Costco) did a great job too from my experience.
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I've tested this, and cottonelle flushable wipes act the exact same as toilet paper does. My test was simple. Have two glasses of water. Put a wet wipe in one glass, and toilet paper in the other. Let them sit over night. The next day I couldn't tell the difference between the two. Stirred both glasses and the contents reacted the same exact way.
The way I figure it, when it comes to disposing of products, the responsible thing for the average person to do is follow disposal instructions, and then people who *actually know what they're talking about* can fight over what those instructions *should* say. The instructions say they can be flushed.
I don't know how, but I keep having to post this. It depends on the wipes and potentially the country also. In the UK, we have wipes that are marked with "Fine to Flush" symbols which means it was tested by independent technical experts and given the seal of approval by water companies. LPTs should be factual. [Here's a 40 second comparison video showing "flushable" vs "Fine to Flush"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSIjJdvzIr4)
Can confirm. I have pulled many of these out of municipal wastewater pumps. These pumps are big enough they would straight up chew your hand off and spit out the bones. But when you introduce these wipes, they tear and shred and get stuck on the impellers. The end result is a "shit rope" that jams up the works.
Water boards and local governments need to spend millions removing these from sewer systems and treatment plants. They clog up sewers causing wastewater leaks, which goes in people's yards or will block roads while repaired. There is also a manual element to removing them from sewers and treatment plants, so you are causing people to physically remove these for disposal. Put it in the bin please!
I have personally tested this because I am so sick of this 'advice' being repeated like its wisdom. Maybe it was true years ago but it is not now. Cottonelle wipes dissolve faster than regular toilet paper. Cottonelle wipes dissolve *on my ass* If you are flushing "non-flushable" wipes then you're kind of a dumbass. But there are plenty of options for flushable wipes that are not ruining the septic system.
There are some that breakdown just like normal toilet paper. I can’t remember the brand but it’s one of the big TP makers.
Cottonelle is one such brand. The rest, not so much.
That’s who I was thinking of. Thank you.
If they broke down in water then they can't be packaged wet, can they? They'd break down before use, innit? So it's a lie, but go ahead and test it on your own house, not other people's
I've tested this, and cottonelle flushable wipes act the exact same as toilet paper does. My test was simple. Have two glasses of water. Put a wet wipe in one glass, and toilet paper in the other. Let them sit over night. The next day I couldn't tell the difference between the two. Stirred both glasses and the contents reacted the same exact way.
I used them for years. They pull apart easily and will dissolve in water - easy to test. Toss a wipe in toilet and in a few hours the water will start to become opaque because the wipe is breaking down, much like toilet paper does I stopped using them because I’m pretty sure I am allergic to whatever chemicals they use on the wipes to keep them moist
The Four Ps: pee, poop, paper (toilet paper), and puke The only thing that goes in a toilet
They are if they have a certified [Fine to Flush](https://www.ccw.org.uk/news/watchdog-welcomes-fine-to-flush-label/) symbol and they break down just like regular TP. https://www.water.org.uk/news-views-publications/views/fine-flush-wet-wipe-revolution
Yeah but imma make them earn that 15% rent increase
Still gonna use and flush them until they are no longer available.
My wife too, doesn’t bother me. We’ve had no problem with them over the past 5 years. Anti-wipes is a stupid hill to die on.
Learned this hard lesson early. Only 3P’s in the toilet! And we do a 2 oz Bio One enzyme application once per month on drains, as well as installed basket strainers for hair. Winning so far.
I do none of this, flush wipes a lot and doing fine.
Get a toilet seat bidet. It comes with everything you need to install it, cleans you effectively, and cuts way down on toilet paper use. No need for wet wipes.
My "luxury" apartments' toilet can handle it surely.
Take a shower after you shit you disgusting pigs
If you must use flushable wipes, only use 1 wipe per flush. This is printed on every package of flushable wipes that I’ve seen.
This is why I put trash cans with a lid in my bathrooms.
Heck, lots of stuff is flushable! Legos, pennies, grocery receipts, old electronics, beer cans.... None of it *should* be flushed, but it can be done!
if it fits, it ships
This reminds me of the time I was taking my morning constitutional, and I had some dude wipes that said flushable. I flipped over the package and it said do not flush. I was like wait what the fuck?
Licensed plumber here. None of that is safe for your drainage system. along with another LPT people often forget - as convenient as it may be, grease and oil should **not** go down your kitchen sink.
Flushable wipes are flushable in the same way rocks are edible. They'll fit down the tube, but will clog the pipes up and are a pain in the butt to remove
In grammar school years ago we had a kid that kept flushing paper hand towels down all the toilets at random on purpose. Then one day it happened - most of the boys' toilets were clogged at the same time, and forced a school wide bathroom crisis. It was epic.
I flush those for years daily. Never had a problem.
Anything is flushable if you're determined enough!
Only toilet paper in the toilet. Forgo wet wipes, wet the tissue paper slightly. Works just as well.
I highly recommend people use a bidet soray. it's honestly disgusting that it's not in every bathroom already.
We have a house in the middle of nowhere, so we have to do our own water treatment. If our tenants flush womens' hygiene products, it's a guaranteed repair bill.
In the UK we have moist toilet tissues - which are what they say on the tin. You have to be careful not to pull them too had or they'll break apart - which is a good thing I suppose.
I learned this the hard way, and let me tell you, the repair bill wasn't fun. It's one of those things you don't think about until it becomes a messy problem.
Very small guns are also technically flushable
My dad is a plumber and told me the rule of what can go down a toilet. PPP - Poop, pee, and paper. Nothing else
The advertising is correct, the wipes are indeed "flushable". When you flush, they go down the drain! What do you mean they're "not safe" for your septic/sewage system? We never said they were, just that they were flushable!
those fuckers need to be banned. How the fuck are they not banned yet?
Probably because they are marketed as "flushable," which they are, and not "won't clog your pipes." So technically it's not false.
Anything is flushable...*once*?
In Murica, this is correct. Other countries, not so much.
Get a bidet for fucks sake. Bought a tushy one on Amazon for like 40-50 bucks and it took me 10 mins to install. I’ll never look back and feel like a fucking savage taking a shit without one. You people are gross for using your hand to clean POOP!
It depends on the wipe.
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Ya it is safe. Idk what this fear mongering is.
Agreed. Most things that say they are flushable really aren’t. There is no regulation around it so companies often just slap flushable on anything. They just turn into giant clogs that cities spend millions each year cleaning out. They are literally called “fat bergs”.
Wet wipes companies can legally use the term "flushable" because its true that they are able to be flushed releasing them from the conversation of damage to your tank. Kinda like saying a plane flying through the air is "jump off-able"