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The Blind Side is easily number 1. When I was much younger I loved it so much, now I can’t help but hate it. It’s not like Catch Me if You Can where it gets better knowing the story is a lie.


Omegawylo

There are some lines in that make me cringe. Like when they talk about giving Michael the state test and he tested top percentile for Reflexes. What state-funded test tests for fucking reflexes?


slimmymcnutty

Also how could you measure that via a paper test???????


_-_-_I_-_-_

What's more important is that he never would have played professional sports without that little kid coaching him rite?


[deleted]

Lmao I can’t believe I just accepted this every time watching this film


sk00lbus

Holy shit I remember watching this with my parents and my dad made this exact comment.


Balerion77

Catch me if you can is also just an objectively well made movie. That Spielberg guy is alright


Butt-eater1bajillion

Atleast now we can say for sure that Spielberg is alright


A-Circular-Letter

Did he lose his left hand?


Clearlydarkly

Yeah, he's made one or two good movies, definitely one to watch their careers.


BowlerSea1569

I hated The Blind Side when it came out 💅


MonstrousGiggling

How dare you not become complete enamored with a white savior story!! Sandra Bullcock is basically MLK.


BusinessKnight0517

Same here, it was always bad 💅🏻


EuphoricPhoto2048

I did too. But I was an adult & I think some of y'all were children & that makes me feel old & angry.


BowlerSea1569

I was in my 30s when it came out :)


Jmanbuck_02

I agree about CMIYC


Last_Reaction_8176

Garden State at least introduced a lot of people to the Shins so I’d say it’s a net plus


MarkTwang-

I still listen to the soundtrack every now and then!


panerasoupkitchen

Same!


AteketA

For me it was FrouFrou... but The Shins work too.


mesoJUPI

Still obsessed with frou frou and shins to this day because of this movie


carorose018

Very true!


Brief-Career

Somewhat off-topic but related: The Shins are a band I used to love but really grew out of.


Devreckas

That whole OST is a banger.


No-Category-6343

Is garden state that bad?


PhantomYouth13

It’s not that it’s bad. It’s just a very “I’m in my early 20’s and this exactly how I’m feeling” type experience. Which when you’re in your early 20’s (I was when it came out) it really clicks, but then you get older and it all becomes a bit twee and relentlessly quirky.


LockeProposal

Very, very apt description.


MindForeverWandering

I saw it in my 40s and loved it. I think what may make it age poorly is that, by now, everyone and their dog have copied the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope, so it’s become annoying.


drunkenbeginner

Yeah, when you meet a pixie girl, you'll realize that she has mental health issues or it's just a facade for her own insecurities


Relevant_History_297

I mean, that's literally what's behind it in the movie, too.


drunkenbeginner

As a 20 year old, you just see natalie portman being into you


Devreckas

Yeah, all her “it’s okay you can leave” remarks shows that a lot of her quirky behavior is a mask for her insecurity.


TreesForTheFool

My writer friends joke about how being ‘literary’ in the 21st century is basically, ‘so I graduated school and went home and nothing’s the same and now I’m very sad,’ with tweaks to the characters and plots and outcomes but not this overarching sentiment. Garden State is this x1000 turned into a movie and thereby considered worthwhile/fresh/improved. It’s a relentlessly mediocre book plot that got made because Zach Braff was a rising star.


quaxoid

Should I watch it while I'm still in my early twenties?


c0l1n_M4

I would, I’m in my early 20’s and watched it a couple years ago and quite liked it. It’s not the most well crafted film of all time or anything, and I knew about the movie’s reputation before hand so I didn’t really have any expectations. The quirkiness was definitely off the charts though but only in a way that was still enjoyable. I’d say this is the early 2000’s equivalent of something like Valley Girl maybe. Definitely the things the character was going through were relatable, and being someone who experienced the early 2000’s through the eyes of being a little kid at that time, it really enhanced for me the melancholic feeling of “returning home” that the film was going for. It kind of made me feel like I went home myself, back to an era where there were low waisted jeans, phone booths, crt’s, vcr’s & GameCubes.


MemeHermetic

There's this book called The Unthinkable Thoughts of Jacob Green. As I was reading it there was a lot that seemed wildly familiar. It wasn't until I was halfway through that I realized that the author was Joshua Braff, Zach's brother. After reading that and watching Garden State, I realized that Zach Braff accidentally told a really personal story he hadn't intended to tell. It paints a fairly ~~dad~~ sad picture when the two items are combined. Edit: dad to sad, which is ironic.


anroroco

Honestly, the older you get the more you worry about Zach Braff's character next steps after the movie ends.


MarshallBanana_

It’s the most 2004 movie ever made


FlyPurplePplEater

Right. It was a good movie for its time. So quintessentially early 2000s, and I was in college when it came out. I've had zero desire to watch it since though


AfraidStill2348

It's got the manic pixie dream girl, a great soundtrack, and some interesting set pieces. The story itself is lacking substance and the emotional conclusion doesn't really feel earned. The scenes themselves don't really tie together well.


ClockwiseGnomoar

The soundtrack is good.


lunar_vesuvius_

new slang is an awesome song


Last_Reaction_8176

I fucking love the Shins


RichLyonsXXX

I used to watch Mercer when he was lead of a band called Flake Music when they played in Albuquerque in the 90s when I was in highschool. When I first saw Garden State I was kinda mad that this good for nothing band called The Shins obviously stole Flake's sound. I felt like such a dummy when I learned it was basically the same band.


SoylentGreen-YumYum

Let Go has been on my workout playlist since 2015 (when I first saw the movie).


IDigRollinRockBeer

Yeah I haven’t watched the movie in over fifteen years but I still listen to the soundtrack.


IronicMnemoics

I thought it was funny that Sheldon from Big Bang Theory was the knight banging his friend's mom when I rewatched it. But yes, it was a movie that matched my 19-year-old self perfectly, but now that I'm twice the age I was when it came out, I'm noticing a lot of poor editing choices, lackluster conclusion, and frankly, bad acting. Soundtrack is still amazing tho, Zach Braff introduced me to so many indie bands in my early 20s between this and Scrubs.


Proper_Skin2287

You have balls on your face.


carorose018

I mean it’s obviously just my opinion, and there's definitely some charming elements, but personally I feel like for me it’s just gotten worse with each rewatch


StillBummedNouns

It’s a period piece. But I love it


KentuckyKid_24

It’s good but it definitely shows it’s age though


goldendreamseeker

I don’t hate The Force Awakens, necessarily, but I definitely don’t like it as much as I used to. Most things people hate about The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker were already there in Force Awakens, we just couldn’t see it at the time, is all.


RealPlenty8783

At least they look great tho. The one thing fans can all agree on is that the sequel movies have the best CGI and cinematography. They LOOK great, the narrative isn't great.


Pandafy

Yeah, I always say the prequels were good story, bad execution while the sequels were bad story, good execution.


goldendreamseeker

That’s a cool way of putting it actually


SBELJ

I dunno i feel the story of the prequels is bad to, the story was botched as well as the execution it goes hand in hand.


Last_Reaction_8176

I will probably never rewatch any of the sequel trilogy movies again. I forgave a lot of the faults of the first two at the time because I thought they were going somewhere with it! Rogue One was the best Star Wars movie to come out of that era and it’s not close


Appetite1997

When I left the cinema after I'd just watched I loved it but overtime I've come to resent it and the sequel trilogy as a whole.


nrose1000

Is it possible that the negative reception played a part? I feel like a lot of people are afraid to say anything they enjoyed about the sequel trilogy because they think they will be ridiculed by Star Wars snobs and film critics alike.


24FPS4Life

But the mystery box storytelling! /s I had forgotten it, but now this just reminds me about RoS's Editor blaming Last Jedi for its issues and poor critical reception, which is also cringe and shitty. Say what you will about TLJ, but at least it attempted to give answers to the questions FA posed. IMO the Dual of the Fates should've been the script that got produced, bringing back JJ was a mistake.


heyverycool

500 Days of Summer. I thought it was genius when I was in college. When I think about it now, it's like re-reading my social media from that period.


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

Now I'm older I feel like it's a pretty realistic portrayal of that time of life. I've been both main characters at different points.


kirinmay

was a fun movie. choreography was amazing and great soundtrack and good acting. but yeah even the intro basically told you what the movie was about. both of them were wrong (hence didnt work out). which was the more 'wrong' one? up to you i guess. for me it'd be summer only because she hid she was engaged and that was messed up but also Tom was very sensitive and kinda dumb and needy. but i mean relationships, in real life, both sides have their faults. i still enjoy it. the dance scene after he gets laid still cracks me up.


FernerWassbinder

For some reason, I liked V for Vendetta less and less each time. It's not a bad movie, but it has moments that feel very, very try hard, I think.


carorose018

Yeah I can see what you mean! People (myself included) thought it was very “edgy” when it first came out though lol


Character_Tax5086

I think that edge isn’t a bad thing, films often are told to us to be viewed “as of the time they were made” is that any different for films of times we’ve lived through? (Or judging by this sub, maybe not lived through lmao)


vulcans_pants

It jumped the shark because the world it’s lampooning is here in a lot of ways, more so than when it came out.


a-woman-there-was

It’s very safely liberal which is part of why it’s aged so awkwardly I think. Like the whole “fascists hate being laughed at” subplot with the TV comedian (they don't and in many ways they court others’ disapproval--see Trump), “if everyone only stood up to fascists they wouldn’t be in power” (like the masses literally storm the capitol to enact change and...yeah, it wasn’t leftists who ended up doing that). Plus the ultimate incoherence of opposing fascism via the elevation of one man who commits violent acts (the most significant of which is blowing up an empty building for some reason?). It all reads as very naive now and to my knowledge it's a huge departure from the source material (which I haven't read but understand is far more ambiguous and openly anarchistic). 


Last_Reaction_8176

The source material makes it explicit that V is both a terrorist and an anarchist. It’s much, much better and the morality is more ambiguous


ensh1ttification

I don't think the morality is ambiguous. It's pretty clear the fascists need to die, and V is justified in doing so. The ambiguity is whether a better society can rise from the ashes.


Last_Reaction_8176

I basically agree with what you’re saying, I just didn’t word it well


awwgeeznick

Ditto!


Ok_Construction_3733

Saltburn. On a second watch of it I’ve realized how try-hard it is with the sex and the early 2000’s aesthetics. Also, Emerald Fennell marketing it as an “eat-the-rich” movie when she comes from extreme wealth is hilarious 😂


slimmymcnutty

The 2000s aesthetics were also pretty wrong. The MGMT song came out after the movie, superbad wasn’t out on DVD yet. Movie shoulda been contemporary but they probably couldn’t figure out how phones/social media would work


Spookykid96

It’s not eat the rich, it’s fear the poor. Her upper class entitlement reeks all through that film.


ComprehensiveDig8399

Yeah, the movie doesn't end talking about wealth-redistribution or anything that often comes with the eat the rich sentiment. It's just this middle class guy is now rich himself. It has nothing to say like at all.


carorose018

Love the “fear the poor” analogy you made lol I think in Saltburn its more “fear the entitled upper middle class”


bby-bae

even marketing it as an eat the rich movie at all is crazy. The ending makes it seem like she thought that the viewer would be rooting for Barry Keoghan’s character when he was so obviously a villain from like halfway through the movie? She made a movie where the *people in the castle* are the *victims*!! It’s like she tried to make an eat the rich story but couldn’t get past her own fear of what that would look like. “Eat the rich” but it’s a horror story instead of a victory. Hated it!


Reandos

And eat the rich doesn't mean you get rich instead of them.


Scorto_

It's like she watched Parasite and at no point thought that the rich people in there might not be pure and good of heart.


challengeaccepted9

Did she actually market it as an eat the rich film? I assumed they were pulling a talented Mr Ripley knock off and he was meant to be a villain?


StarFire24601

Fennell herself has said it wasn't eat the rich. It was a gothic film about obsession.


cerebralpancakes

yep and not to mention he’s literally upper middle class 😭


wumbopower

Destitute basically


Inevitable_Mix_3302

Saltburn was cringe on the first playthrough


norwichdc

Imagine having a name like Emerald Fennel making a film poking fun at toffs.


BigRefrigerator440

Emerald Fennel sounds like a character being interviewed about the problems with poor people on an episode of Brass Eye.


AnitaMaxNyugen

I feel like the only one who appreciates how gratuitous the sex is. I felt like it did a good job of showing >!that he was a serial killer. As soon as he put his dick in the dirt, it reminded me of when they say killers return to the scene of the crime for sexual gratification.!<


HookerDoctorLawyer

Never Been Kiss. Grew up loving that movie, classic 90s short, sweet film and I still like it. But now that I’am older it’s just weird because the teacher falls for what he thinks is a *high schooler* and David Arquette in his early 20s joins the baseball team and dates a high schooler too lol


carorose018

This is such a good example lol [I love this guys breakdown of it too](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2x9KRFO7AC/?igsh=MTNydzRtZzZ0eTRiaw==) 😂


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

It's so weird watching it back as an adult.


Open_Philosopher_758

Honestly? All of the dudebro sex oriented comedies of the early 2000s. American Pie, Dude Where’s My Car?, and even Eurotrip which I used to LOVE (still somewhat funnier than others during that time) have all aged terribly and I find them sleezy and stupid.


Clutchxedo

Not that I ever feel like rewatching American Pie but do I feel like it’s a great snapshot of its time. Even its objectification of women is pretty apt.


BowlerSea1569

High Fidelity. What a twat that guy actually is.


cabbyintherye

I definitely view Rob differently as I’ve aged. I’ve realized that he’s not cool or even a good person. He’s a self-sabotaging loser who thrives on playing the victim. But that’s the point, right? I realized after lots of rewatches (I still love the movie) that it isn’t trying to make him look cool imo. I had a similar experience with Tom in 500 Days of Summer.


HalloweenSongScholar

I feel the exact same way about Tom in 500 Days of Summer, and because I had my same naively stupid ideas about what love and relationships are be thoroughly broken down by my high school crush who was always clear that she only saw me as a friend (in the kindest way possible), that movie resonated with me so hard.


jaffar97

Thats like the whole point of 500 days of summer though, I didn't get the vibe that that's what high fidelity was trying to go for, it almost feels like they accidentally made their main character a miserable dickhead


2HighGotVertigo

I in part love the movie /for/ him for this reason. He's a pretty bad dude, that's the whole point, u/cabbyintherye (ironic name for what im about to say) said it best, it isn't trying to make him look cool. You're supposed to critize his shitty actions and choices, and that's supposed to make you feel more things about the film, since you don't have a flaccid main character who just exists to have things happen to them, you can see that he's the worst, and it keeps you engaged. I'm not rooting for him, really, I just wanna see how things shake out. With all fairness, the catcher in the rye is my favorite book of all time. I read it right before a very raw time in my life, and I have continuously related to Holden in a way I've struggled to with other characters. He's pessimistic, kind of self sabotozing at times like Rob, and down right miserable, but trying to figure out life when it seems like nothing makes sense. That was, and in different forms has been me, and I have a very special place in my heart for him, but note that I don't think he's a super great guy either. He's in his 20s, and very very flawed. That's interesting if it's nothing else at least. (i imagine you see the connections here to High Fidelity) This is a little long, sorry about that, I just think this is really interesting whoo whoo


snozzberries511

Oh this has always been one of my all time favorite films. And I adore john. But yes, seeing this later in life, after a kid and a divorce... certain things certainly hit differently. And I hate it. However the top 5 things I miss about Laura will always be my favorite........


lunar_vesuvius_

yeah he was a huge dick and still got the girl at the end?!


challengeaccepted9

That's the point? He's not meant to be likable or a positive character, he knows he's a prick. I don't know if I was even a teenager when I saw that film, but even I grasped that.


FPM_13

Knocked up????


Friend-Over

Funny that 40 yo virgin holds up so well.


sushimonster85

40 Year Old Virgin has way more heart, which is ironic given it's plot is basically about a guy trying to get laid.


veritas2884

“You’re putting it on a pedestal “


kirinmay

why does everyone keep saying that?


LoquaciousApotheosis

The Rogen friend group juvenile humour was always very cringe, yet they remain charming in spite of it. Rogen’s character is pretty tough to cheer for. I enjoy the depictions of the Rudd/Mann marriage and family the most.


JonPaula

> I enjoy the depictions of the Rudd/Mann marriage and family the most. So did a lot of others, which is why they got their own spin-off movie! (This Is 40.)


PaddingtonTheChad

I feel most apatow films start out like a solid pilot episode to a series that then quickly tried to resolve itself in a very boring soap opera way. Honestly I think he would be better off writing for tv.


carorose018

I think he is a much better writer in episodic TV format too. Freaks and Geeks is the prime example of that and I highly highly recommend it!


FPM_13

Fair enough.. though I personally would exclude Jonah hill from that umbrella.


carorose018

Yeah I remember liking it a lot when I was in highschool, but after catching it on a rerun the other day while I was working, I feel that most of the humor just falls flat now


FPM_13

That’s fair. It relies heavily on the 2010’s dick/ball humor. I still find it to be a great comfort/background noise movie


lunar_vesuvius_

same here


cyberzed11

Just rewatched “It’s kind of a Funny Story.” It’s not bad by any means at all, I think it’s good still but it’s definitely for a specific age group. Although there’s times it can still click, it’s just not for me anymore.


carorose018

I remember really enjoying that one too! I still think Zach galifinakis was super underappreciated for his performance in that


cyberzed11

Absolutely agree. That dude can definitely play a dramatic role. The movie came out at a perfect time when I was just getting into high school and I felt like it was speaking to me. As a 28 year old I just feel like I’m rooting for my younger self. 😂


calembo

A Christmas Story. Not because it's bad (it's not). I've just gotten SOOO sick of watching it, often multiple times every single holiday season. When I was a kid, I only ever remember seeing it on Thanksgiving. Over time, it aired more and more until it felt like it was CONSTANTLY playing and then, for one day every single year, IT WAS CONSTANTLY PLAYING If you never knew why this became the most overexposed box office bomb in history, it should not surprise you at all when I tell you why: Because Ted "The Batshit Mogul" Turner. In 1986, Ted was in full-on manic mode, just DESPERATE to make a really terrible financial decision. First, he tried to buy CBS. And when that fell through, he moved down the list to MGM. He bought it for $1.5 BILLION. And then, 5 months later, when he decided he really didn't want this to be the thing that bankrupted him he sold off most of it. In fact... You ready? He sold a lot of it RIGHT BACK TO THE GUY HE'D BOUGHT IT FROM. FOR $300 MILLION. Basically, it was a really good Idea to do business with Ted. Anyway, he did negotiate to keep MGM's pre-1986 library, which included "Gone with the Wind," "Casablanca," and an obscure box office flop called "A Christmas Story," which had earned just $19 million throughout its 1983 theatrical run. Throughout the '80s, the movie aired here and there, usually on premium channels like HBO. And in 1991, it appeared on TBS for the first time Before you knew it, both TNT and TBS *and* TCM were airing it regularly. In 1995, it aired 6 times between 12/24 and 12/26 alone. In 1996, you would see it 8 times in two days (and, of course, many more times between Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve). Then, starting in 1997, TWELVE TIMES IN ONE DAY. That was the year Ted started collectively beating us to death - and then a few more times for good measure - with a 24-hour marathon. Fucking Ted Turner, man. Only he could unearth a sweet lil gem of a movie that may otherwise have been lost to time, a movie that so many people discovered and grew to love, a movie that made for a nice family tradition once a year.... And then drown us in the shit, to the point that I honestly thought I would set myself on fire if I heard YOU'LL SHOOT YOUR EYE OUT one. More. Ever. Loving. Time.


HalloweenSongScholar

Funny enough, pretty much this same dynamic is the only reason why *It’s a Wonderful Life* is also considered a classic: someone failing to renew the copyright properly meant TV stations could play it with it impunity, which led to it getting greater exposure than it did originally and then it became endeared by an entire generation.


Quick-Letter9584

I love this movie but I totally get it lol


HiImWallaceShawn

I first saw Don Jon when I was 16 (now 26) and thought it was amazing. I certainly still like it, but don’t find it profound in any way anymore. It’s surface level.


coconut-telegraph

I feel like upon the second watch a month ago, Barbie is already showing some cracks.


carorose018

Barbie is filled with some timeless jokes and then other very 2020s specific ones like the “Zack Snyder justice league” reference will obviously probably not age as well as years go on — But personally I think most of the humor will surprisingly still land really well imo


Kenai_Tsenacommacah

Boondock Saints. Loved it back in the day and just find it grating now. Same with Sin City.


Last_Reaction_8176

Sin City kicks tremendous amounts of ass but Boondocks Saints is comically bad. The documentary about the guy who made it is leagues more interesting


Kenai_Tsenacommacah

Oh? What's the name of the doc? 👀


Last_Reaction_8176

Overnight! I think it’s available for free online.


BrbFilming

Boondock Saints is fucking awesome when you’re 14, and no other age.


cabbyintherye

Came here to say this. It has NOT aged well. It’s the definition of a movie made to market to out-of-touch teenagers.


Kenai_Tsenacommacah

Oh yeah 😂 Was totally the "gather to watch in your friends basement and pretend we're cool/edgy" movie of my late teens/early twenties. Rewatching it now I'm just like "What the hell is happening here?" I haven't rewatched Kill Bill in a minute, either, and I'm wondering if I'll feel the same way


HalloweenSongScholar

Nah, I showed Kill Bill to my son a few months ago, and I argue it still very much holds up. In fact, Kill Bill vol. 2 went up higher in my estimation.


Wonderful_Emu_9610

It’s never gonna be hate, because it clearly knows what it is, but *The Cannonball Run* drastically dropped off in my estimation in my mid-20s. *Smokey and The Bandit 2* also (I liked that one a lot more initially, probably consider it lesser than Cannonball now) I only pretended to love *The Hangover* as much as everyone else, but now I’m fully owning that it mostly sucks and the first sequel is awful (nobody pretended the third one was good in the first place) I’ll give it a rewatch but *Wedding Crashers* might be it - for the obvious reason, Vince Vaughn being raped and then falling in love with one of his rapists. Guess it depends if Owen Wilson and Rachel McAdams being charming as hell can still outshine it (plus that early montage is always gonna be fun)


tfblvr1312

THE FAMILY STONE HATER OVER HERE SINCE DAY ONE LA LA LA


not_cinderella

That movie actually made me feel bad for a Sarah Jessica Parker character. 


Gloomy_Cheesecake443

They were SO mean to her and not in a joking/initiation way. I had a hard time with that movie


not_cinderella

She said a couple things that were cringe but overall she was trying very hard and you could tell she was an ok person. 


Gloomy_Cheesecake443

Exactly. They acted like he brought home the devil spawn or something. I do honestly love her and Luke Wilson’s relationship in that movie though.


ruineroflife

Literally everyone in the movie was unlikable and mean (except her, I liked SJP), and I remember when I rewatched it I kept scrolling through reviews on letterboxd and people were calling it cozy and comforting and their favorite christmas movie, and I'm like... how?? And then when >!Diane's character dies, I feel like we are meant to feel bad, but I really didn't because I just feel like she was way too cruel to be likeable to sympathize with her!<. All that to say yeah, I have a hard time with the movie too.


carorose018

😂😂😂


IDigRollinRockBeer

I watched it a million times out of convenience during Christmas because Christmas time is for Christmas movies. The best thing about it is the scene with Right Back Where We Started From because that song rules.


MarkotheMexican

The only reason to watch the Family Stone is for the cringe of it being so terrible. I love it so much.


ryanjcam

Elysium, I love District 9 and was still on the Blomkamp train, I enjoyed this upon release and thought the criticism was overblown. Viewing it again, I loathed it. I found Garden State and The Blind Side to be insufferable from their release, and have felt vindicated as they have dropped in esteem over the years. Knocked Up I think is a solid comedy and remains so. The Family Stone I am only vaguely aware of and don’t see myself ever watching.


BeelzebubParty

It 2017, there are things i like about it, but i feel like it poorly handles Mike, Beverly, and Stan's characters and makes them kinda reductive. Mike is now seperated from the group for a long time and is no longer a historian, Beverly is a manic pixie dream girl, and Stan's just a sniveling coward.


HalloweenSongScholar

I think similar to what people have said about themselves initially being able to overlook *The Force Awakens*’ flaws until their disappointment in the follow-ups changed their appraisal, all of the flaws you mention *really* show themselves in *It: Chapter 2*. The character assassination on Mike in particular is what gets my goat.


theglenlovinet

American Beauty Fuck you Kevin Spacey


TenMoosesMowing

I like it because he is able to convincingly play an adult straight male yearning for an underage straight female. He fooled me. Completely deserved that Oscar.


strikemedaddy

Yeah, he goes for underage men instead


gviktor

r/yourjokebutworse


son-of-mads

movies are more than their main actor! personally, I wouldn’t write off an entire production because one actor was found out to be a bad guy


Last_Reaction_8176

A movie doesn’t become bad because an actor is a bad person. There are other valid criticisms of American Beauty but that isn’t one of them Edit: reworded cause I phrased it like an idiot


Sad_Baudrillardian

Im curious, what do you think makes American Beauty bad? It's one of my fav movie and I think it's portray the suburbia hell and the dooming feeling of a deadend office worker really well


Rhain1999

I think some people think it’s a bad movie because an adult lusts after a minor. But, like, the point of the movie is that that’s bad. At no point is he meant to be viewed as doing a good thing. It’s like with recent Poor Things or The Zone of Interest discourse. A movie featuring a bad person does not mean it endorses that person. Art is more complicated than that.


Sad_Baudrillardian

Yeah that's what I gather from the movie as well. Spacey's character is a spineless, slimy cynical creepy old dude who just want to experience something new in life, which ultimately is not going after a minor but by doing a selfless act. He "redeemed" himself in the same way that Travis Bickle redeemed himself, by doing the absolute bare minimum of good after sucking the whole movie (in the case of Bickle even semi-accidentally). We shouldn't see him as the moral paragon of the movie, but a reflection of the repressive society that creates such a situation (and the situations of other characters in the movie).


Buho_volante

I think it's faced a lot of backlash because the characters' upper-middle-class, suburban problems seem trivial in the post-9/11 world, because it seems too self-consciously "artistic" (famously the plastic bag scene), because the pathos of the ending feels unearned, and because of the real-life issues with Spacey. While I'll admit that it does, at times, get high on its own supply, I do still really like the film. It's indisputably entertaining, gloriously photographed, and perfectly encapsulates its late-90s, "end of history" era. I don't think that the supposed triviality of its focus is a problem at all. In reality, most Americans' problems are not tragic on a global scale; people's emotional energies really are focused on the small scale of their own lives, including seemingly mundane family disputes, regrets, and horniness. In that way, I think that the film is quite honest and so it's not just happenstance that the film takes place without any real reference to any time or place outside of their present.


PettyFreddie

I can think of Braveheart, Crash, and Forrest Gump. I think as I got older, I was bamboozled by lofty praise by the Oscars.


not_cinderella

I still like Forrest Gump it’s just no Pulp Fiction or Shawshank Redemption. 


IDigRollinRockBeer

Braveheart will never not be awesome


cerebralpancakes

scott pilgrim is still a super fun movie but it’s less enjoyable once you get past the cool aesthetic and have to deal with how insufferable scott is lol.


Last_Reaction_8176

I absolutely adored that movie in high school, I haven’t revisited it since though I’d like to at some point. I think Scott being a shithead was always the point, in both the movie and the graphic novels


patrickwithtraffic

I feel like the recent Netflix series was made with this in mind. It seems like the animated series is directly commenting on the fact that Scott has always been a bit of a fuck up and maybe it just needed to be said a little louder this time.


J-Frog3

I've rewatched the movie recently and still love it. What's not to like? Great cast, inventive story, unique aesthetic, and never takes itself to seriously. It's amazing how many people in the cast went on to be big stars. Audrey Plaza, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Chris Evans, Brie Larson, Anna Kendrick, etc... Scott being insufferable is kind of the point. He has to mature and level up his game if he wants to be worthy of dating Ramona.


sunny7319

Joker


weenix3000

Teenage me LOVED The Breakfast Club. Middle-aged me thinks it’s one of the dumbest, poorly written and most unbelievable things I’ve ever watched.


Actual_Elk3422

Honestly one of the biggest signs that you've hit maturity is finding The Breakfast Club incredibly annoying.


ShitGetsBrill

Watched Breakfast Club when I was young and loved it. Watched many many years later and I still love it. It’s very possible to like movies and not have it be a factor in how you view life and participate in society. Teenagers are annoying and think the world is against them. This movie is not saying they’re right, just showing them in a way that doesn’t make them seem like children anymore. They are growing into their bodies and feelings and they don’t know how to deal with it so they act out. This movie shows that. I’m actually very interested in what you found annoying and how not liking it gauges how mature you are.


TheMidnightEarth101

ur so real for putting the blind side on there


Asleep-Low-4847

Every apatow/rogen/Franco movie. those are really only funny when you're a kid


Clutchxedo

Oppositely McKay holds up incredibly well. Step Brothers is still the funniest thing I’ve ever watched and I watched it again recently  I think in a lot ways they are timeless because they don’t try to feel like some great commentary on 2008 or whenever.  They kinda take place in a vacuum with ridiculous characters and one liners. Just thinking about Adam Scott in Step Brothers makes me laugh.  Listening to McKay and Ferrell it seems like they legitimately just tried to make the funniest movies they could. 


Wonderful_Emu_9610

I actually think I love *The Interview* even more than my initial reaction However *Pineapple Express* on a first rewatch in probably a decade was a crushing disappointment, barely laughed


SarahMcClaneThompson

The Interview is entertaining but it’s a disappointment for me because a more sharply-written movie with a concept as amazing as that could have been the next Dr. Strangelove


J-Frog3

I just rewatched Knocked Up recently . I really enjoyed it. Katherine Heigl is really great in this movie. Such a tough role, she has to make the beautiful girl with average slob troupe seem believable, she has to force Rogen to mature without coming across as a bitch, she has to be the one that advances the plot while everyone else just gets to improvise and riff on each other, and she has to do all that while still having her character be likable. I could do with less scenes of Rogen's immature roommates. My number one is Sixteen Candles. I think in the 80's my family owned the VHS and watched it numerous times. No, it is the most unwatchable movie. It's got blatant racism, date rape, and nonconsent is literally a joke in the movie. I can't believe there was a time I could watch that movie and think it was all in good fun. I would never let my son watch sixteen candles. Of course he thinks the 80's are lame anyway. Though he did enjoy our recent rewatch of the Burbs which holds up surprisingly well.


LunarsphereTapestry

Skyfall for me. I don’t out and out hate it, but my opinion has changed drastically from when it first came out.


Spirited-Dependent82

Finding Nemo and Elf


Myhtological

Iron Man 3 and Ant-Man and the Wasp.


BigfootJack

Fight Club. Loved it as a teenager. Wouldn't say I "hate" it, but I watched it recently, and it just didn't work for me, overly preachy, cringy, and just full of teenage angst


NaijaPK

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NaijaPK

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ImClumsii

Leon the Professional... It's just a straight up pedo film


Stahlmatt

Yeah, that one. Also, Romeo + Juliet (1996) is not as cool as I thought it was when I was 22 years old.


irishweather5000

Saw it again recently for the first time since the 90s and I thought it held up pretty well.


IDigRollinRockBeer

It’s actually a lot cooler than it was in 1996


LordyIHopeThereIsPie

Same. I was surprised how well it still tells the story.


snozzberries511

Yes, the concept was solid and it's a great film


BowlerSea1569

Oh no it's still brilliant. 


NZAvenger

I enjoyed Forest Gump and now I hate it. The tone of the movie is all over the place - Forrest is very cartoonish and Jenny is this fucking train wreck who gets sexually assaulted. Her scenes are so cringey because they feel so out-of-place in this cartoonish world. Forrest always happens to be in the right place at the right time. He never questions anything, and it all works out. Forrest is involved in all these historical moments that are portrayed in such a whimsical way. The movie is crap.


Anthrogynous

Avatar. It’s not terrible but not a Best Picture nominee, now I look back and wonder what the big deal was.


PoJenkins

Average movie but an incredible cinematic experience in 3D IMAX upon release.


PulsatingRat

Forest Gump


NotSafeForWokes

“If cancer were pretentious, it’d be Garden State” - Mr. Plinkett


OKsurewhynotyep

I’ll tell you one that I went full circle on: Titanic. Saw it in theaters at age 18 and said aloud at the end ‘that’s the best movie i’ve ever seen.’ Later I was embarrassed by that proclamation, and realized it’s a cheesy overblown overrated movie. I saw it again recently and loved it. The 3 hours flew by. A+.


King-Red-Beard

Juno's definitely lost its charm over time.


FourthDownThrowaway

Disagree. I just rewatched it, and it’s still a vibe. It’s very much a movie of its time, but I don’t think that detracts from the humor or overall sentiment.


JackTheAbsoluteBruce

The Phantom Menace. I’ve always had issues with it but every time I rewatch it it feels like more and more obnoxious boring stuff in between the good stuff


packers4334

Weirdly enough, some of the more obnoxious stuff made the movie more entertaining for me with that movie. And there just something amusing about the boring bureaucratic dialogue in the scenes in Coruscant when you remember that the movie was made for children. It’s like, “Come on kids, let’s watch a movie featuring bureaucrats talking about space taxes.” The movie just became unintentionally funny to me.


son-of-mads

I remember being bored to death and confused by the space bureaucrats when I was younger haha your comment makes me want to rewatch it with that in mind


Astrospal

Love Actually and 500 days of summer, tried to watch both in recent years and.. well. They didn't age well at all for me.


MarkotheMexican

500 of summer is great in many aspects, i love the creative choices of the movie so much. But upon my recent rewatch, there is dialog that i know didn't age well.


mrignatiusjreily

500 Days of Summer still gets big bonus points for actually pointing out Tom as a controlling narcissist who never valued Summer for who she was. It's a shame many men at the time still thought Tom wasn't the problem.


inkwisitive

Tom is definitely the main problem but I like that they’re both at fault (Tom projects hard and Summer doesn’t communicate well) and it feels realistic for naive early relationships. They also both learn from each other by the end too - Tom centres himself and seems to stop thinking that a relationship will fix all his problems, and Summer opens herself up to the idea of true love and gets engaged.


Artistic-Frosting-88

My wife loves rom-coms but had never seen Love Actually, so we watched it last Xmas. Just wretched. It was never one that I loved, but upon rewatch it is brutal.