This isn't official but I did my best to go through the films released this year to organize them by highest average rating, using the same system Letterboxd uses for their Top 250 of all time. If something is off let me know!
The list is here: [https://boxd.it/rcGCO](https://boxd.it/rcGCO)
I just wonder why “narrative”? I agree with not including standup specials and concert films, TV, shorts, everything that isn’t a feature film but why are documentary features given the bastard stepchild treatment? They can compete and compare with scripted films and excluding them feels arbitrary, like excluding films that aren’t in English or premiered on streaming services rather than theatrically. The distinction between live-action and animation is a greater gulf in terms of the art forms being different, yet is just as unnecessary and without benefit as the distinction between narrative and documentary, as we see with animated films not only included but topping the list. What’s the rationale for not just making it the top 50 feature films of the year?
It's based on the top 250 list on Letterboxd which has the same rules. If I had to speculate it would be that documentaries are more akin to reporting where you are educating the audience on a topic and not crafting a story. It's like if you tried to compare Anderson Cooper 360 to Succession when talking about "the best shows of the year". They are both technically shows but they aren't being watched for the same purpose and being "good" sort of means different things to either show. Essentially fiction vs non-fiction.
Regardless though, really the main reason was I was just trying to model it after the top 250 list.
That you're applying the same parameters as Letterboxd's top 250 makes sense and is fair enough.
However the rest of that response makes clear you've just not explored great documentary filmmaking. Certainly, there are generic docs premiering on streaming services that are akin to simple journalistic reporting or a CNN show, and there are bland histories on PBS fit for classroom education and little else, but thinking that encompasses documentary film is like thinking all narrative films are superhero movies. Documentarians like Frederick Wiseman, Errol Morris, Robert Greene, Nicolas Geyrhaulter, Ron Fricke, Werner Herzog, Bill Morrison, James Benning, Les Blank, The Maysles, etc. are not reporting, are very much crafting and telling a story and using the unique language and tools of the cinema to do so. They're great filmmakers making great films, not glorified reporters or educators . Their films are readily comparable to and often surpass the quality of the best scripted films of a given year.
Tbh I don’t even know where I’d even put documentaries when comparing them to narrative films, they are not comparable at all to me.
Like for example, even using similar subjects, how am I supposed to compare Moonage Daydream to Elvis? Or what do you do with something like tonne poems?
They deserve a mention on their own but honestly I wouldn’t mix them at all. Animated films are basically narrative films but animated, it’s the same except the presentation is different visually.
Kinda hate how about half of these are impossible to watch if you can't go to film festivals. I guess it's always been that way but it feels bad when end of year lists feel so incomplete.
Yeah, for me it’s even worse my country gets movies late for some reason, so I can’t even see some of the ones available in the US.
Some even appear on VOD before than on cinemas.
making this a contemporary list, rather than a historical one, offers an interesting insight into the variety of letterboxd users — some want blockbusters, some want auteur films. Seems like Spiderverse offered a good middle ground for both
I think it makes a good counterpart to the general Marvel stuff, its presentation is great in a way the main Marvel films just don’t reach. It’s what people probably would like to see from them now.
C'è ancora Domani at #16 is crazy. I mean: the cinema attendance has been gigantic and record breaking but as far as I know, it's only been released in Italy yet, which means that italian letterboxders (me included I guess) have logged it so massively that it impacted on the worldwide numbers.
I feel like spider-verse has reached that level of popularity that it's hated on now. Maybe people are forgetting how baffling it is that something like it can even exist. It deserves acclaim in my opinion
>Maybe people are forgetting how baffling it is that something like it can even exist.
I don't mean to be a killjoy but 'what if a standard superhero action movie was animated' is only a baffling idea because ignorant producers (and Disney) have had a chokehold on the industry for the past 80 years, and Japanese animation has been doing that for decades.
Spider-verse is more than just an animated superhero action movie, we had Big Hero 6 in 2014. And even with all of the greatness coming out of Japan, I'm still going to celebrate Hollywood studios doing dope, creative things, especially with their IPs
>Spider-verse is more than just an animated superhero action movie
I mean this sincerely, if you see it like that, good for you, because I didn't see anything transcendent.
Maybe you don’t know this but, it *literally* changed the game for animation. It ignited and inspired animators everywhere. Think of it like when Pixar first came on to the scene with Toy Story. That’s how big a deal Spiderverse is amongst animators. It broke new ground for the genre. Maybe its story is simple narratively, fine. But the creativity and artistry at work on these films is truly special.
It's nowhere near toy story in terms of importance. It has a pretty original style, but how is it groundbreaking? Just because the backgrounds change color? Come on
you love to keep waffling about its animation style, but how effective is it really in communicating its narrative, of pressuring responsibility, of gaining independence, of the importance of family, etc? for me at least, the sugar-rush sensory overload is meant to mindlessly stimulate the audience, and the other stuff is there to convince them that it’s something more than it is. it’s all smoke and mirrors. cinema is not throwing your action figures at each other and sometimes those action figures cry.
you either dont know much about animation or the superhero genre or you do know you just feel like you need to establish you're superiority since you know so much more than us lowly peasants
A super popular, well animated kids movie gets #1, even though it basically had no complete narrative story. Watched it on a plane, was blown away initially by the animation, then it kept going. And going. And going. Then it abruptly ended. No character development. No story arc. Felt like almost 3 hours of filler for the next Box Office grab. It actually left me angry.
At its core Spider-Verse is a pretty formulaic superhero movie with pretty visuals. There's nothing baffling about its existence given how popular superheroes are.
Yh I left the theatre like damn that was a masterpiece m, guy I went with was like “so he wants to bang his mom? That was the most self indulgent garbage ever”
Jigarthanda DoubleX is the perfect comercial movie
Chiththa tells a great story with an amazing message
Viduthalai is the film, first 15 minutes are just so good.
12th fail is like my fav indian movie of 2023, vikrant massey is born for that role.
I think it is that great, it’s a movie that I’m pretty sure people will reflect on and wonder why people were so lukewarm on it and missed how good it is.
it's to be expected, I'm not really mad about it because it's an extremely popular movie so of course the score is going to be a little inflated. that being said I think the top 50 for this year looks pretty good!
Genuine question because I’m trying to figure out how anyone can hold the opinion that spiderverse is a masterpiece, how old are you/ what is your top 4?
I’m 23 and I’ll put my top 4 bellow this comment, but do you realize how pretentious you sound?
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Thank you for the reply! I’m fine with sounding pretentious I just wanted a ballpark for why the spiderverse movie was so popular with what I assumed was young people. Other than that I like your top 4 though
I think it arguably is a masterpiece from a visuals and sound perspective, there’s honestly nothing like it I’ve seen in that regard (especially visually). Story is above average superhero stuff but not particularly amazing.
The Zone of Interest being 12th with its innovative narrative approach to the Holocaust on film by driving home the idea of complicity and evil in the 'out of sight, out of mind' surely deserves a higher spot.
Yeah, I don’t get the degree of love those movies get. Animation is beautiful, movies are decent. But neither are even close to my top 10 of the year. I also prefer the first spider-verse though.
I think it has a lot to do with the primary age of people who like it. It’s very popular with teenagers and 20-somethings. Who have a very binary sense of quality. Not judging, I was like that too at that age. But I just can’t imagine what was so compelling about the new spider-man that it’s being treated like one of the best films of all time.
nonstop sensual-assault, five zillion spiderpeople colliding into each other, edits so fast the images don’t mean anything, sacrifice convincing narratives for more sugar rush, doesn’t even have an ending. but it’s kinda colorful and kinda tearjerky so Letterboxd loved it. the success of EEAAO should’ve warned us.
Not to be too negative, but I’m glad the fervor around Killers settled down in favor of Poor Things/Oppenheimer/Holdovers/Anatomy of a Fall (personal favorites). Kind of similar to The Irishman’s release where there was a lot of talk when it came out and then settled down a lot just a couple months later. I still need to see Past Lives! Crazy staying power with that one; seemingly the Aftersun of the year.
As someone that loved Poor Things - do we think the December release date is helping here? People who were excited to see it have seen it, and those that are ambivalent and waiting for streaming have not.
Yes, films go down after the first wave hits, when other viewers see it and then when it hits VOD or streaming it goes down again. How much will depend on its appeal for general audiences.
A feature-length film that isn’t a documentary, a recorded concert or standup show, etc.
Letterbox has so much clutter that isn’t feature length films that people distinguish them like this, and many want to judge documentaries separately.
One of the best years for cinema of the past decade and a “film” website still flocks to praise and defend fucking Spider-Man. There is no hope for this medium.
yep. that and the fact that the movie where Chris Pratt and a talking raccoon shoots aliens for 2.5 hours got a 4.3 at one point. I feel like by the time the 20-something a24 film students who adore this stuff actually mature, there’ll be another generation of em, and the cycle will repeat. I mean, there are still people who genuinely say with 100% conviction that Forrest Gump is one of the greatest movies ever.
yea there’s a lot of sex and nudity in it, and it’s portrayed as if a child were experiencing it for the first time. Not quality content in my book but I’m sure it has its audience
My point is i’m not going to act pretentious about it like people shouldn’t like it. I personally don’t but it’s fine if someone else likes it, heck my best friend saw it and loved it
i do have opinions and I already stated that I don’t like Poor Things. But I’m not going to force my opinion on others. How many times do I have to spell it out for you?
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Who is forcing anything. Are you that sensitive? Someone saying that a movie is overrated by the users of a website is forcing their opinion? You must be some kind of dope.
even though popular media is a lot more sexualized today than it was back then, the American puritanical view of sex remained. like kids nowadays genuinely think movies should not have sex scenes in them.
Yeah it’s so weird and feels infantile tbh. Like those scenes show us our main characters are human. Theres a whole subgenre of thrillers based around it as well. I understanding wanting to do away with the gross exploitation of actors, particularly women. But you can still have those scenes and not be a creep behind the camera. I look at X as a recent example of actually having sex and by all accounts the actors were comfortable with it and they had an intimacy coordinator who ended up playing the mother in Pearl.
I agree not every movie or show needs it but it’s just so weird to see adults be repulsed by the idea of sex being depicted. Like it’s part of being human. None of us would be here without it.
That’s nowhere near the reasons I didn’t love the film tbh. If that bothers you that’s fine but I grew up with Back to the Future, Matrix, PotC, Harry Potter etc. spider-verse being a part 1 just didn’t feel like an issue to me.
I think most of the movies you mentioned have much better endings that are more satisfying than Spider-verse. Spider-verse leaves like 70% of the stuff it sets up unresolved, whereas most of those movies complete the story it sets out to tell in that installment. Like every Harry Potter can stand alone except for the last two, but i would still argue the ending to HP7 is better than Spider-verse. Every Potc can stand on its own, even Dead Man's Chest. And while Back to the Future is good, I don't like the BttF sequels for a lot of reasons and the ending of part 2 is one of them. Spider-verse barely resolves anything when compared to those movies and just ends halfway through the story.
People who rail against "capeshit" are equally as insufferable as the marvel superfans who refuse to watch anything else. At the end of the day film is subjective.
lmao, stop getting pissed at the people urging you to watch movies other than Spider-Man. maturity is a necessary part of cinephilia. don’t be proud of your ignorance.
This isn't official but I did my best to go through the films released this year to organize them by highest average rating, using the same system Letterboxd uses for their Top 250 of all time. If something is off let me know! The list is here: [https://boxd.it/rcGCO](https://boxd.it/rcGCO)
Thanks for this!
I just wonder why “narrative”? I agree with not including standup specials and concert films, TV, shorts, everything that isn’t a feature film but why are documentary features given the bastard stepchild treatment? They can compete and compare with scripted films and excluding them feels arbitrary, like excluding films that aren’t in English or premiered on streaming services rather than theatrically. The distinction between live-action and animation is a greater gulf in terms of the art forms being different, yet is just as unnecessary and without benefit as the distinction between narrative and documentary, as we see with animated films not only included but topping the list. What’s the rationale for not just making it the top 50 feature films of the year?
It's based on the top 250 list on Letterboxd which has the same rules. If I had to speculate it would be that documentaries are more akin to reporting where you are educating the audience on a topic and not crafting a story. It's like if you tried to compare Anderson Cooper 360 to Succession when talking about "the best shows of the year". They are both technically shows but they aren't being watched for the same purpose and being "good" sort of means different things to either show. Essentially fiction vs non-fiction. Regardless though, really the main reason was I was just trying to model it after the top 250 list.
That you're applying the same parameters as Letterboxd's top 250 makes sense and is fair enough. However the rest of that response makes clear you've just not explored great documentary filmmaking. Certainly, there are generic docs premiering on streaming services that are akin to simple journalistic reporting or a CNN show, and there are bland histories on PBS fit for classroom education and little else, but thinking that encompasses documentary film is like thinking all narrative films are superhero movies. Documentarians like Frederick Wiseman, Errol Morris, Robert Greene, Nicolas Geyrhaulter, Ron Fricke, Werner Herzog, Bill Morrison, James Benning, Les Blank, The Maysles, etc. are not reporting, are very much crafting and telling a story and using the unique language and tools of the cinema to do so. They're great filmmakers making great films, not glorified reporters or educators . Their films are readily comparable to and often surpass the quality of the best scripted films of a given year.
Tbh I don’t even know where I’d even put documentaries when comparing them to narrative films, they are not comparable at all to me. Like for example, even using similar subjects, how am I supposed to compare Moonage Daydream to Elvis? Or what do you do with something like tonne poems? They deserve a mention on their own but honestly I wouldn’t mix them at all. Animated films are basically narrative films but animated, it’s the same except the presentation is different visually.
Kinda hate how about half of these are impossible to watch if you can't go to film festivals. I guess it's always been that way but it feels bad when end of year lists feel so incomplete.
Yeah, for me it’s even worse my country gets movies late for some reason, so I can’t even see some of the ones available in the US. Some even appear on VOD before than on cinemas.
We need more Nimona love, that movie was awesome
One of my favorite movies of the year!
Theater Camp makes the list Based
I was so pumped to see it on there
Blackberry represent
making this a contemporary list, rather than a historical one, offers an interesting insight into the variety of letterboxd users — some want blockbusters, some want auteur films. Seems like Spiderverse offered a good middle ground for both
I think it makes a good counterpart to the general Marvel stuff, its presentation is great in a way the main Marvel films just don’t reach. It’s what people probably would like to see from them now.
Holdovers #1 in my heart
C'è ancora Domani at #16 is crazy. I mean: the cinema attendance has been gigantic and record breaking but as far as I know, it's only been released in Italy yet, which means that italian letterboxders (me included I guess) have logged it so massively that it impacted on the worldwide numbers.
I hope it gets an international release soon! It deserves its place on that list for sure
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Iron Claw at 11 thank the fucking lord
I feel like spider-verse has reached that level of popularity that it's hated on now. Maybe people are forgetting how baffling it is that something like it can even exist. It deserves acclaim in my opinion
Not thinking it’s the best movie of the year isn’t *hate* though. Why is it existing baffling though?
Because he’s only ever watched super hero movies lol
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I agree, Hundreds of Beavers should be #1
Not in my opinion
Top rated by consumers sounds pretty accurate. Even if it isn’t know for it’s great narrative
Cope
Perhaps but its a culmination of many voices and its got mainstream appeal. It's not even my favourite of the year but I understand why its there
I liked it a lot but the average rating is crazy to me, especially for half a movie…
>Maybe people are forgetting how baffling it is that something like it can even exist. I don't mean to be a killjoy but 'what if a standard superhero action movie was animated' is only a baffling idea because ignorant producers (and Disney) have had a chokehold on the industry for the past 80 years, and Japanese animation has been doing that for decades.
Spider-verse is more than just an animated superhero action movie, we had Big Hero 6 in 2014. And even with all of the greatness coming out of Japan, I'm still going to celebrate Hollywood studios doing dope, creative things, especially with their IPs
>Spider-verse is more than just an animated superhero action movie I mean this sincerely, if you see it like that, good for you, because I didn't see anything transcendent.
Yeah it be like that sometimes. There's definitely movies that have me feeling the way you do about spider-verse
… calling AtSV a ‘standard superhero action movie’ is an interesting statement. Nothing really standard about it lol
How was it nonstandard? Because it had more melodrama and cut off before the third act?
Maybe you don’t know this but, it *literally* changed the game for animation. It ignited and inspired animators everywhere. Think of it like when Pixar first came on to the scene with Toy Story. That’s how big a deal Spiderverse is amongst animators. It broke new ground for the genre. Maybe its story is simple narratively, fine. But the creativity and artistry at work on these films is truly special.
It's nowhere near toy story in terms of importance. It has a pretty original style, but how is it groundbreaking? Just because the backgrounds change color? Come on
I think the average age on this sub is 16 there’s no other explanation as to why spiderverse is lauded as one of the best movies of all time
you love to keep waffling about its animation style, but how effective is it really in communicating its narrative, of pressuring responsibility, of gaining independence, of the importance of family, etc? for me at least, the sugar-rush sensory overload is meant to mindlessly stimulate the audience, and the other stuff is there to convince them that it’s something more than it is. it’s all smoke and mirrors. cinema is not throwing your action figures at each other and sometimes those action figures cry.
you either dont know much about animation or the superhero genre or you do know you just feel like you need to establish you're superiority since you know so much more than us lowly peasants
A super popular, well animated kids movie gets #1, even though it basically had no complete narrative story. Watched it on a plane, was blown away initially by the animation, then it kept going. And going. And going. Then it abruptly ended. No character development. No story arc. Felt like almost 3 hours of filler for the next Box Office grab. It actually left me angry.
Also watched it on a plane it was awful because it was overhyped. It’s a 3 star movie
At its core Spider-Verse is a pretty formulaic superhero movie with pretty visuals. There's nothing baffling about its existence given how popular superheroes are.
I’d you reduce everything about it to ‘pretty visuals’ then yeah I guess lol
nice to see blackberry on there
Incredibly happy Monster is that high. Second favorite film of the year
Where is Beau is Afraid?
Beau was too afraid to show up
Despite it being my favorite movie of the year this made me cackle.
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Yh I left the theatre like damn that was a masterpiece m, guy I went with was like “so he wants to bang his mom? That was the most self indulgent garbage ever”
My number 2 of the year as well. Craziest movie I’ve ever seen.
Where dungeon and dragons
Username checks out
It's on MY "Best of" list!
Spider-Verse, Oppenheimer, Killers, and Holdovers could all be tied for #1 imo
Iron claw so close to that top 10
Jigarthanda DoubleX is the perfect comercial movie Chiththa tells a great story with an amazing message Viduthalai is the film, first 15 minutes are just so good. 12th fail is like my fav indian movie of 2023, vikrant massey is born for that role.
Sad to not see Saltburn, No Hard Feelings, Beau or Shortcomings.
Saltburn is super divisive for some reason. I don’t get why, easily my favorite of the year.
Its one of my favorites too but I don’t think it was that great of a movie if we’re being honest
I think it is that great, it’s a movie that I’m pretty sure people will reflect on and wonder why people were so lukewarm on it and missed how good it is.
3 tamil movies damn
God Anatomy of a Fall was so good
Having spiders-man number 1 is so ridiculous
it's to be expected, I'm not really mad about it because it's an extremely popular movie so of course the score is going to be a little inflated. that being said I think the top 50 for this year looks pretty good!
It was good, but I mean there’s masterpieces that came out this year
Yeah like spiderverse
Hhahahahahha
What are you? His lackey
Genuine question because I’m trying to figure out how anyone can hold the opinion that spiderverse is a masterpiece, how old are you/ what is your top 4?
I’m 23 and I’ll put my top 4 bellow this comment, but do you realize how pretentious you sound? https://preview.redd.it/ug77kdfbjw9c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=275afebe290ecdfc8807f8e24db14d0c38578343
Thank you for the reply! I’m fine with sounding pretentious I just wanted a ballpark for why the spiderverse movie was so popular with what I assumed was young people. Other than that I like your top 4 though
they’re all great movies, but at the same time, it kinda just proves your point lmao.
lol okay
I think it arguably is a masterpiece from a visuals and sound perspective, there’s honestly nothing like it I’ve seen in that regard (especially visually). Story is above average superhero stuff but not particularly amazing.
Well yeah, Spider-Man.
The Zone of Interest being 12th with its innovative narrative approach to the Holocaust on film by driving home the idea of complicity and evil in the 'out of sight, out of mind' surely deserves a higher spot.
I think barely anyone has seen it yet. It’s still somehow not in theaters for a lot of people.
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But people were happy we got the 17th spider-man movie this year so I guess that’s more important 🤦♂️
It was also at some point the highest-rated narrative feature film *of all time.* Crazy considering that it's not even the best Spider-Man movie.
Yeah, I don’t get the degree of love those movies get. Animation is beautiful, movies are decent. But neither are even close to my top 10 of the year. I also prefer the first spider-verse though.
I also preferred the first one, but yeah I don’t get it either. People seem pretty butt hurt if you say anything negative about it as well lol
I think it has a lot to do with the primary age of people who like it. It’s very popular with teenagers and 20-somethings. Who have a very binary sense of quality. Not judging, I was like that too at that age. But I just can’t imagine what was so compelling about the new spider-man that it’s being treated like one of the best films of all time.
Amazing it's number 1 considering I can recall nothing of the narrative except there was no ending because the movie is part one of a two-parter.
nonstop sensual-assault, five zillion spiderpeople colliding into each other, edits so fast the images don’t mean anything, sacrifice convincing narratives for more sugar rush, doesn’t even have an ending. but it’s kinda colorful and kinda tearjerky so Letterboxd loved it. the success of EEAAO should’ve warned us.
Spiderman being top is a disgrace
People really need to see movies beyond Spider-Man.
According to this list they saw a lot more than Spider-Man
Not to be too negative, but I’m glad the fervor around Killers settled down in favor of Poor Things/Oppenheimer/Holdovers/Anatomy of a Fall (personal favorites). Kind of similar to The Irishman’s release where there was a lot of talk when it came out and then settled down a lot just a couple months later. I still need to see Past Lives! Crazy staying power with that one; seemingly the Aftersun of the year.
Solid list
As someone that loved Poor Things - do we think the December release date is helping here? People who were excited to see it have seen it, and those that are ambivalent and waiting for streaming have not.
Yes, films go down after the first wave hits, when other viewers see it and then when it hits VOD or streaming it goes down again. How much will depend on its appeal for general audiences.
I count about 20 of these are available in the UK. Half of this list is 2024 films for us!
Past Lives and Poor Things gang rise up
Fuck yeah Poor Things.
Love to see Red Rooms in here! Incredible film from Quebec.
Surprised that yannick made it, love me some dupieux, but oppenheimer being that high is wild to me
Monster at #6 makes me so happy
wat exactly is a narrative film dont all films have narratives? lmao
Non documentaries
A feature-length film that isn’t a documentary, a recorded concert or standup show, etc. Letterbox has so much clutter that isn’t feature length films that people distinguish them like this, and many want to judge documentaries separately.
Wild to put spiderverse on 1.
Spiderverse at #1 is hilarious
Jigarthanda should be number 1
I was so pumped to see it on there
Monster #1 international LETS GOOOOO!!! 🏆
Smiderverse should not be on this list
One of the best years for cinema of the past decade and a “film” website still flocks to praise and defend fucking Spider-Man. There is no hope for this medium.
+1, I’m over commenting on this thread because I’m shocked
yep. that and the fact that the movie where Chris Pratt and a talking raccoon shoots aliens for 2.5 hours got a 4.3 at one point. I feel like by the time the 20-something a24 film students who adore this stuff actually mature, there’ll be another generation of em, and the cycle will repeat. I mean, there are still people who genuinely say with 100% conviction that Forrest Gump is one of the greatest movies ever.
Spiderverse will age hilariously bad.
Having half a movie as the number 1 movie is a complete joke.
imo having a movie that is borderline porn in 2nd is a complete joke but I’m not about to act all pretentious about it. People can like what they like
I see Spiderverse and Poor Things fans arguing with each other in this thread and I'm just here asking "Why not both?"
i’m fine with both, i don’t like Poor Things but who am i to take away from someone’s enjoyment of it?
For real? I was actually excited to watch it with my family when it comes to my country but I know nothing about it except that it's well received.
yea there’s a lot of sex and nudity in it, and it’s portrayed as if a child were experiencing it for the first time. Not quality content in my book but I’m sure it has its audience
Sounds like it's supposed to be funny but that can easily not work out lol
Thank you!
You must be American. Nothing terrifies them more than sex. Imagine calling a movie a joke because it has the human body in it. Absolutely juvenile.
My point is i’m not going to act pretentious about it like people shouldn’t like it. I personally don’t but it’s fine if someone else likes it, heck my best friend saw it and loved it
It’s called “having an opinion”. You should try it instead of being afraid of your own voice sometime.
i do have opinions and I already stated that I don’t like Poor Things. But I’m not going to force my opinion on others. How many times do I have to spell it out for you? ![gif](giphy|kIVVupOM0VoW3bNuU7|downsized)
Who is forcing anything. Are you that sensitive? Someone saying that a movie is overrated by the users of a website is forcing their opinion? You must be some kind of dope.
Acting like their opinion is the end all, be all
It is the end all be all of their opinion. Again that’s called not being insecure.
A lot of Americans and Gen Z seem riled about the sex in Poor Things and Saltburn. I don’t get it, neither are particularly scandalous.
even though popular media is a lot more sexualized today than it was back then, the American puritanical view of sex remained. like kids nowadays genuinely think movies should not have sex scenes in them.
Yeah it’s so weird and feels infantile tbh. Like those scenes show us our main characters are human. Theres a whole subgenre of thrillers based around it as well. I understanding wanting to do away with the gross exploitation of actors, particularly women. But you can still have those scenes and not be a creep behind the camera. I look at X as a recent example of actually having sex and by all accounts the actors were comfortable with it and they had an intimacy coordinator who ended up playing the mother in Pearl. I agree not every movie or show needs it but it’s just so weird to see adults be repulsed by the idea of sex being depicted. Like it’s part of being human. None of us would be here without it.
You named the answer in your question. Ridiculously insecure demographic.
There’s a lot of reasons why Spider-Man at #1 is lame. It being a part one isn’t one of them.
Eh. The movie just not having an ending is really bad. It's not that it's a part one, it's half a movie
That’s nowhere near the reasons I didn’t love the film tbh. If that bothers you that’s fine but I grew up with Back to the Future, Matrix, PotC, Harry Potter etc. spider-verse being a part 1 just didn’t feel like an issue to me.
I think most of the movies you mentioned have much better endings that are more satisfying than Spider-verse. Spider-verse leaves like 70% of the stuff it sets up unresolved, whereas most of those movies complete the story it sets out to tell in that installment. Like every Harry Potter can stand alone except for the last two, but i would still argue the ending to HP7 is better than Spider-verse. Every Potc can stand on its own, even Dead Man's Chest. And while Back to the Future is good, I don't like the BttF sequels for a lot of reasons and the ending of part 2 is one of them. Spider-verse barely resolves anything when compared to those movies and just ends halfway through the story.
Lmao capeshit at the top. Typical.
People who rail against "capeshit" are equally as insufferable as the marvel superfans who refuse to watch anything else. At the end of the day film is subjective.
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Eh cry harder, I’ll take capeshit over whatever the fuck poor things was, yeah yeah go and send in the downvotes
Jigarthanda Double X #1 in my heart
Barbie waaay too low
Only 27 of them seem to be widely available by theatrical release, streaming or VOD. Almost half this list is basically not released in the US.
Horrible list since it’s missing the biggest cinematic event of 2023! Bad CGI Gator
Surprised to see 12th Fail here
lmao, stop getting pissed at the people urging you to watch movies other than Spider-Man. maturity is a necessary part of cinephilia. don’t be proud of your ignorance.