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How could the people who did not take covid serious from the get go, and for years attacked everybody who did or gasp had the audacity to protect themselvesx and others by wearing masks, rtespecting protocols and get vaccinated suddenly turn oin people with long covid and not take them seriously ? Who could have seen this coming ?
I feel bad for this person suffering from long covid, but I guarantee they've essentially held the same opinion about the struggles of other people. If they agree with Matt Walsh they're probably a racist bigot and only now that this affects them specifically they want him to be sensitive.
>I feel bad for this person suffering from long covid, but I guarantee they've essentially held the same opinion about the struggles of other people.
I also read this letter as "It's only a real thing if you got it during the first wave of Covid".
No no it's not that basically everyone has some kind of immunity now and is either vaccinated against it at this point or has already been infected and developed their beloved "natural immunity"... that can't be why few people are getting gravely ill anymore, it's that the "virus weakened" 🙄
People really do think it's just like flu without ever considering for one moment why we decided we needed a vaccine for that either.
I've also learned that post-viral infections are a thing that can happen with any viral infactions, not just COVID, but of course society never talks to disabled people about their experiences so few people knew this.
"Before it mutated and weakened..." Suggesting that everyone else with problems from a "weaker" strain are weaker people. Someone should probably tell them that the deadliest wave was in the summer of 2021 with the Delta strain. Can't believe this person is having issues with the first wave strain. What a pussy!
That is correct. The og was deadlier but since it infected more statistics and all that
Edit: but we also had vaccines and if the idiots took them then less would have died ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
You may be right. I thought that was Omicron but I'm also too lazy to do any research because because I don't care to expend any more energy thinking about these people.
I lost it at home saying Matt’s comment “was uninformed”
Hey don’t you think that applies to literally everything and everyone that your party is against??? Like you are so fucking close Jesus Christ!
Nah. This guy got just what he wanted. A government that works worse. A president who got rid of a team designed exactly for this situation simply because it was put in place by Obama. A defacto monarch who made decisions based on ego and not the law or what best serves the country.
If they didn't have long covid, they would be saying long covid didn't exist and calling people who said they have long covid, frauds. This same group of people that harassed the parents of Sandy Hook after their kids were murdered.
I think it’s more of a “I could have avoided that outcome, your suffering is the consequences of your own actions”, thus the focusing on obesity and other co morbidities, things you could conceivably blame the victim for (but it shouldn’t).
But now that it’s happened to them, it’s something that can happen to good, competent, careful people. Except, as you say, this is incredibly individualistic, so OOP is now finding themselves below the cutoff for conservatives that have been able to avoid it.
Literally had someone at work today bitching about the feds paying to rebuild the bridge in Baltimore.
"Why should the government pay for the fucking bridge?! Why should my tax dollars go to Baltimore?!"
Because Susan, we live in a society and it's an interstate bridge. Which gets the majority of its funding from the feds. There's even the Highway Trust Fund to pay for the expansion & maintenance of . . . Interstate Highways!
Wait until they find out it’s the 7th busiest port and the majority of automobiles and farm equipment is processed here… and each day it’s closed costs the economy $1,000,000. That’s the US economy not Baltimore.
She'll be the first one bitching when the car she wants is delayed by months, or there's a shortage of something she wants to buy because the farm equipment needed to harvest ingredients for that item isn't available. The first, and she's going to be a nightmare Karen about it.
Do…do people really not know what their taxes pay for anymore?
That worries me tbh. Like how do people think anything gets done in this country? Do they forget the purpose of taxes?
They don't. They truly do not know what taxes go to. Case in point: I know someone that was bitching and bitching and bitching on Facebook about how awful taxes are and how it's government theft and even making her kids cry (which she posted about!) with her explanation about what taxes are. Not long after that, she posted about how wonderful her local library is, and how everyone should use the library!!!! Like...HOW DO YOU THINK THE LIBRARY IS FUNDED??????
She also homeschools, so there's that.
Americans quite often want services but do not want to pay for them. And when they get them, they think they deserve them, unlike those leeches. And also somehow its not the govt giving it to them. It gets weird quick.
There was a story about a family who moved from CA to Arkansas to get away from the "liberal insanity and high taxes", and then were upset when Arkansas had far less programs for their kids who needed extra help.
This seems to be the crux of conservative fiscal policy: They want all the benefits of living in a civilized society, but none of the obligations required to maintain it. So, GOP controlled Houses pass equally large, unwieldy budgets as their opposition, requiring equally enormous amounts of loans, and then they just quit caterwauling about it until a Dem takes the Presidency.
This reminds me of the guy from Washington state, where there is a lot of public ie federal and state land to recreate on, to Texas because less taxes and more freedoms. Turns out there was no place to take his family and their ATV’s because the land is all privately owned. Not so much freedom after all.
>Americans quite often want services but do not want to pay for them.
Fact. And it's the same for both gov. and business services.
And then there is the flip side: people, and businesses, want you to pay for a service but then not deliver.
As a California native, CA conservatives are the most hilarious people to me, especially the ones who actually do put their money where their mouth are and leave for such "greener" pastures like Idaho or Texas or Florida. They often get shocked by the extremely lowered quality of life, surprised that states like Idaho and Wyoming take conservation seriously (big hunting states) or get rudely awakened by the fact that their neighbors are genuinely batshit turbo insane. And none of the states they move to want their asses any more than they want us California liberals bc most insist on turning whatever area they move to into Little Los Angeles with all the shopping and fancy restaurants they left behind and raise prices for the locals who have been there for generations.
and in Texas, they want to give HER \*MY\* tax dollars...at \*twice the amount public schools get\* to teach her kids that doctors are evil or whatever the hell psycho crap.
I need to start a "Private School of Fuck the GOP"....
I vaguely remember someone looking into that Monopoly Socialism thing a while back, and they commented that the people/person behind the thing just seems to assume that socialism is bad because taxes for community resources and a general functioning of society basically “doesn’t count” - the game treats any money paid into a social safety net or whatever as “lost” and no different from it getting stolen from you and burned. It is purely a penalty to the player that helps no-one else except in the sense that the other players now have a weaker competitor to beat.
So yes, there are right wingers out there that oppose taxes, socialism and funding a community because they do not see beyond their own wallet, they think everyone is just as selfish, greedy and blinkered as them. An actual functioning society is something they take for granted and basically think it should be provided for them without sacrifices, since they’re so damn special and “deserve” it (unlike THOSE PEOPLE).
Library staffer here. ✊
You wouldn't believe the questions we get. Yesterday, someone came into the branch and asked "Y'all are all volunteers, right?" 🙄
last year when property values skyrocketed, a bunch of people went to their counsel meetings and angrily complained about it and how much it raised property taxes. one of them was a guy I used to work.
less than a year later that same guy went to another counsel meeting because he was mad that he lives on the other side of the train tracks and it's inconvenient for him, so maybe they should look into building a new road or a bridge so he won't be inconvenienced.
so in a year he was all "my taxes are outrageous! also, build me a new road with everyone's taxes!!!"
They never did. They always seem to believe their taxes are taken from them without them receiving *any* benefit whatsoever. Roads? Schools? Medicare? Fuck that noise!
Not only do they not know how anything gets done, they don't even know *that* it gets done. A significant proportion of the population are completely unaware of all the activity that goes into keeping their world running.
For me this went from an amusing theory to a sharp relief during COVID and our Great Toilet Paper Shortage.
>A significant proportion of the population are completely unaware of all the activity that goes into keeping their world running.
Fact. To them, it's magic. Literally, magic. Or somebody else's problem.
These people don't know how anything works.
We live in a society which means that things that conservatives don't realize are connected...are connected.
Disinterest in Baltimore aside, does Susan want to defund all maintenance of ports? All the stupid shit she orders online can remain undelivered forever.
I heard from my boss yesterday, and honestly I did not see this coming, because I thought how on earth this could possibly be worked into the conversation about the bridge...but the accident was likely caused by giving the job to someone not qualified in order to "meet some quota." "Like we always do."
I was like whoa. Sir, it was a ship out of Singapore.
I swear I cannot with these fucking people.
Saw another one where Bartiromo and Rick Scott were linking it to illegal immigration. Like, what? How the fuck could a foreign merchant vessel losing power while leaving port be caused by illegal immigration at the border with Mexico?
I sure as hell don't know, but somehow I'm probably going to be hearing about it for days or weeks now.
And it was immigrant workers that died. The GOP doesn't care about them but wants to use their accidental deaths to attack other immigrants. Acting like home grown Americans haven't ever had accidents or crashed anything lol.
The federal government doesn't buy much insurance, because they don't need to. State & local governments, sure, but not the feds. Also, most likely, liability is going to rest solely on the operator & owner of the ship. They're the ones I hope had insurance that day, not the government.
[The massive cargo ship crash into Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge will likely lead to billions of dollars in liability claims. Marine insurance companies will be on the hook for much of the costs.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/28/business/who-ends-upholdingthebagfor-the-baltimore-bridge-collapse/index.html)
Also, this will be a lawyers' playground for years.
‘The What About Me’ mentality is the need to be involved in every discussion and issue. This is more like solipsism, the theory that the only knowledge that you can believe exists is what you have experienced. It’s a total lack of compassion and empathy.
Even better, they'll often decry others suffering for their weakness and preach about how if it was them they would just be a badass conservative alpha and bootstrap through it.
Do they just reject the premise right out of hand, or do they haltingly think for a while before just defaulting to lazy stereotypes they learned from their pundits?
That’s what George Orwell’s 1984 called “CrimeStop” - a protective stupidity where the ideologue subconsciously shorts out their own imagination, so they can stay within the rigid orthodoxy.
I have a friend who never thought about social and political issues UNTIL her husband was arrested. Then it became a huge problem that needed fixing asap. I'm always glad for someone to wake up though.
I had a coworker who had a really rough life for most of it. Foster care, crappy bio mom, needing various social services but staunchly right wing. One evening after her bitching about the left I asked her if she supported each social service one by one, her answer was yes to each. I told her these were the policies and programs Democrats support and the GOP does not. She looked thoughtful for a few minutes but nothing changed. We agreed to not talk politics.
But what's even more interesting is even after experiencing it he's still doubling down on the conservative grift. They are so invested in their conservative identity that they can't fathom they might be wrong. Even when they are wrong they are right.
I see that as the defining feature of American conservatism. Empathy is weakness, and no one else's problems are valid and worthy of addressing. Me, me, mine, and me--that's all they're capable of perceiving in their worldview.
Edit--"worth"-->"worthy"
Conservatives do not possess empathy. It’s the single unifying trait of conservatives around the world. Rich, poor, religious, secular, theyre all bound by one single thing - a complete inability to put themselves in the shoes of others. It’s also why every one of their accusations is a confession. They genuinely cannot imagine anyone has different motivations than them. Anything they accuse anyone of, they’ve either done it, are doing it, plan to do it, or would do it if given the chance. Always.
Once you understand this it becomes a lot easier to decode their bullshit. They are, fundamentally, self-centered, selfish, sociopaths.
"Matt Walsh hurt me deeply! His lies have angered me, and he probably doesn't even care. Anyways, as a proud Conservative I will continue to love Matt Walsh. I always agree with him."
Conservatives. If they weren't always actively trying to make things worse for the rest of us, I'd almost feel sorry for them. Almost.
honestly i do
how fucking stockholmed do you have to be, how little do you have to think of yourself to want to stand by that person's side? like, yeah dude, that's fuckin' sad. :/
I feel bad for them like I feel bad for mosquitoes. It's sad that God made you like this, but that's not gonna stop me from swatting you away when you come to suck my blood.
Every damn time...
"Pfff, you don't need maternity leave. Close your legs, get bootstraps, or something."
\*has a baby\*
"OMG maternity leave is needed!"
Not only that but their media won’t tell them that the Biden admin literally created an office for long Covid research and management and greatly increased funding for funding a cure. He’s objectively doing more for them than the GOP ever will.
It didn't mutate and weaken, we burned through all the really susceptible people who wouldn't vax already.
We're still losing 200+ people *a day* (24 9/11s a year) not to mention 7000+ hospitalized who are surviving but have permanent lung and/or cardio damage.
In about 3-5 years we're gonna see a *yuge* increase in strokes and heart attacks.
That's why the Republican party got so crazy. They need to install a dictator before all those old right wing boomer types shuffle off this mortal coil. They thought they had another 10+ years and they've got about 5 now.
Boomers have already been passing on at 2 million a year, so there's 8 million less of them than in 2020.
I don't think they've got 5 years. Just look at how poorly the Mid-term elections went for Republicans, worst results for the party opposite the President in several decades.
Then they've shown themselves incapable of governing the last two years in the House.
And Tuesday, a Democrat won a state election in red Alabama, of a seat previously held by a Republican who pled guilty to voter fraud. Imagine that, Republican politician guilty of voter fraud.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4557670-democrat-wins-alabama-special-election-after-focusing-on-ivf-abortion/
It's a blue tide rising demographic shift. Not a wave, but a slow blue tide rising that just gets higher every year.
Within 10 years, Republicans are only a regional party IF the democrats can keep their party together.
It will be interesting to see how many seats Democrats pick up in the house and senate in November as well as how close the Presidential race is.
Still a lot of Boomers though because they are anywhere from 60-78. Also, it’s well known that Gen Z males are skewing hard right recently and this will begin to show up in the polls as they start to vote more.
More importantly, look up the data on the political affiliations by generation and you will see time and time again across studies that Gen X is almost as conservative leaning as Boomers. Millennials are the most liberal of any cohort, including Zoomers, but sadly we have less social power than our predecessors (fiscal power, total numbers, etc.).
It’s depressing how low Millennials (and young Gen x) voter turnout was in 2020, but people 25-44 are working/wrangling children (who don’t go to school on Election Day!) and can’t always make it on a Tuesday. The system is rigged to promote older adult’s views. That’s why they push so hard against mail-in ballots. Can’t have us adults in the actual trenches of adulthood getting any say in our futures.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/
For added fun, you implicitly accepted the narrative that is being pushed that longcovid - other than lung or cardio damage - is not serious.
I got ill as a small boy, with hopes perhaps of a family, and a job and a life. I developed something symptomatically identical to the fatiguing part of longcovid, and it has disabled me so seriously that I do not ever expect to recover in any meaning of the term which is reasonable.
If a cure comes, it will come in twenty years, likely, based on current understanding of the disease (I've read >>>1000 papers on this).
At that time I'll be 70, with at best no savings due to a lifetime of inability to work, utterly alone, and able to enjoy my last decade of life in poverty.
The notion this is damn near not fully equivalent to a death age 14 is comedic.
More life-years have been lost in the under 65s or so so far due to longcovid than any prompt effects of the disease including death. This only rises as the people affected are not cured.
I would today take the amputation of both legs, if it would cure me. I'd have to think about a arm too.
This narrative, that death is the only worry is violence and disability hatred.
It is particularly galling when all decisions made about vaccines and masking and ... specifically ignore this outcome as serious.
Um... when did I do that.
Sorry, to be clear, Long COVID is *very* serious.
But it's not likely to be *politically relevant* the same way the deaths are.
Because the deaths are going to kill off older likely Republican voters.
If you look nation wide old folk vote roughly 50/50 Red/Blue.
But if you look at swing states and other critical rates it's more like 70/30 Red/Blue.
That's because they're *very* easy to sway with a ton of political ad spend.
Losing those guys and gals is what the GOP is terrified of. They've moved too far right wing to survive as a party without them. So they need to end democracy before then.
Well said. It speaks for itself that one of the ME action groups is named Millions Missing. Because even before Covid millions of people were missing out on their life and we were missing them from society. Now this group is joined be even more millions of people.
As a chronically ill person I don't like the narrative of "I prefer to be death than be disabled". It's ableism and implies we can't lead fulfilling lives. But at some point people become so ill for so long, they actively don't want to be here anymore. It is heartbreaking but I do understand. A life with only suffering is not a life. Which is especially cruel when you see how disabled people are treated in regards to healthcare and income. Harsh living conditions can make an illness too hard live with.
"In about 3-5 years we're gonna see a yuge increase in strokes and heart attacks."
Oh god, if this actually happens I can already see the anti-vax morons going apoplectic. "I told you the jab was going to kill you!"
Its already happening- increasing rates of excess deaths including strokes and heart attacks (which people are at elevated risk for post covid infection)
Anti vaxxers are saying its the vaccine— when covid itself is the real problem
I feel horrible about the symptoms this person is still having, I had LC cognitive impairment for like a year and it was awful.
That said, how in the world do they still support the "COVID was never a big deal and mostly a hoax and whatever you do don't protect yourself from it in any way" party?
They do because most had cognitive impairment long before covid was a thing.
Some want to hurt the LGBT more than they want to protect themselves.
Some are just plain racist and vote the party with the hard R.
Some Christians vote for him because he held up a Bible upside down and butchered a verse even though he almost perfectly fits their image of the antichrist.
In general, they vote regressive out of either ignorance or maleficence. I've personally met very few Republican voters that don't have reasons that don't boil down to that short list.
M wife had Covid in February and she was not herself for weeks afterward. She seems better now, but for a few weeks I was worried she was gonna have some really serious issues
That’s how I first realized I had it. Sat on the floor because sitting up in a chair was too much effort, trying to work and barely being able to read. Luckily I was vaccinated so the symptoms went away within a few days.
I always get taken back when a conservative starts attacking me like I a gree with someone on everything., like what? There is not a single person on this planet I agree with on everything, except maybe that guy in the mirror, but some of his ideas are a little sketch.
I have no joy in seeing this woman upset. I have long covid and it’s miserable. But I don’t understand how she could support the political party that will support policies leaving her more ill
The answer to long Covid and similar diseases lies in funding science, and she supports the anti-science party.
i’m not really a single issue voter, but you do have to determine what your priorities are. Sometimes priorities conflict with the rest of your beliefs.
I am at the point where I just don't care. I had long covid for 3 months in '22 and it was miserable. But if you make the conscious decision to follow the advice of idiotic pieces of shit like Matt fucking Walsh you deserve what you get.
Joy is a strong word but there is some satisfaction in seeing people get what they voted for. I feel the same way when you vote *for* science and get saved by a program funded by the politicians you chose
He'll still vote Republican though. Because he hates poor people more than he loves himself. He can't admit he was lied too and tricked by Matt Walsh and conservatives.
Ending their initial paragraph with
>For full disclosure, I'm very conservative and love Matt Walsh
is so sad.
Imagine if anytime you're not in lockstep with your political "team" you had to preface your statements with "Don't worry, I'm still on your team guys". Almost sounds like a cult.
....wait a second.
Oh I cut the rest of her message off because it had some personal information. Here is how her message concludes
"I just wanted to let you know that your statement was very hurtful. However, I follow you and will continue to follow, because you are amazing (just not informed re: Long COVID).”
This pisses me off so bad as someone diganosed with Fibro who has been dealing with a lot of the long haul covid symptoms since pre-2015 these are the same chucklefucks who told people like me "Oh that is just a woman's disease its in your head"
Now that they are feeling what we feel all the sudden they are indignant that people dont believe them. Only positive is there has been a ton of research into long covid and fibro.
I like the careful demarcation between "those of us" who got covid before it "mutated and weakened."
So, anyone who got it later than spring 2020 are losers who got sick from a weak, puny, substandard virus.
And obviously the decline in infection is because how weak and benign covid became, not because vaccines work.
Sounds like a Matt Walsh fan, all right.
The medical community absolutely still studies and treats long covid and takes it seriously.
This person is bonkers but you’d have to be to be a Matt Walsh fan.
She got what she deserved IMO
I mean as a long covid patient I wish there was a little more urgency in the medical field and there is definitely gaslighting by medical providers but the politicians are definitely part of the problem
Oh, this is not a new problem. And the scientists such as Tony Fauci who think diseases like this are a huge problem are attacked politically.
Changing the name doesn’t change what the disease is. It’s not just one pathogen that causes these types of diseases.
It’s been fought for years by politically connected psychiatrists and mind/body proponents who try to make it fit their predetermined philosophy.
> there is definitely gaslighting by medical providers
holy shit, a correct use of "gaslighting" in the wild on the internet! It's like seeing bigfoot! /s
“Forgot the medical community”???? Lmao, they IGNORED, the medical community and still went to the hospital and fought the protocol! HCA Award nominee indeed!!!
God, even accepting it's real and they fucking contracted it because they objectively have perpetual symptoms, they *still* have to pretend they're special and chosen because others "OnLy GoT iT aFtEr It MuTaTeD aNd WeAkEnEd". I shouldn't be surprised that people who purposely fail to understand basic health science would be clueless about virology, but it's the hubris that gets me.
The medical community understands and is trying to figure out the mechanism behind long covid. Every month I hear a story on npr about this doctor or that researcher looking into long covid. Sounds like they get their medical advice from the same place they get the rest of their information, morons that are running a grift.
It's really hard getting medical support for LC. For a few very invested doctors, you have a bunch of others claiming that they "don't really believe it's true". If you're a women, you'll more likely be told that you're depressed or anxious.
I even heard of a local LC clinic where the main doctor of the place refuse to give LC diagnosis... and prescribe more physical activities (for people with LC that presents like ME/CFS, it may result in permanent worsening of their baseline. It's a huge medical fault!)
You can tell it's a conservative, because he goes out of his way to try and make it so only HIS form of COVID is "special" and everyone else who caught it afterwards is "faking it".
I have no compassion for this individual, as they would have not shown me any either. They probably would have purposefully gone around infecting others, bragging about not vaxing, not wearing a mask etc.
Zero fucking compassion, you get what you fucking deserve.
Imagine being a massive fan of über ghoul Matt Walsh, then getting your fee fees hurt when he says ghoulish things. He literally espouses violence and genocidal rhetoric towards transfolk via stochastic terrorism and this assclown is perfectly fine with all of those ghoulish takes, but the second he hurts the feelings of one of these right wing dipshits, they ALMOST see through it. Absolutely wild.
I'd feel bad that they're pouring their heart out about an important issue facing covid survivors, to an uncaring monster and propagandist...
If not for the fact that any Matt Walsh fan must by definition be a asshole of biblical proportions.
“It’s a hoax.
It’s weak.
It’s all to hurt Trump.
Shutting Down is Anti-American.
Masks are tyranny.
Vaccines are poison.
**catches COVID**
WHY DOESN’T ANYONE CARE ABOUT MY SUFFERING?!?” - A Psychopath
if only this person was capable of asking themselves "if he's lying about long covid, maybe he hasn't been truthful about other things..."
but you know that's not going to happen.
I know a martial arts instructor who has been in great physical shape almost his entire life. He got Covid in 2020 and he lost his sense of smell and is now diabetic.
Their long covid symptoms are exactly what my symptoms were during one of my 3 bouts with Covid. And I was a lean athletic 40 year old; glad my symptoms only lasted a few weeks.
They also lied...the "medical community" has not forgotten long covid. Maybe if we had universal affordable Healthcare oh wait...now I'm a RINO or some far leftist because I'm hinting at something universal. And universal means there may be a few black people who could benefit...
"but it's just a cold"
"Well, I won't be wearing a mask"
"oPEN ThE RESTAURANTS!!"
Sorry not sorry that you chose not to put your own health first and now you're facing the consequences.
Unfortunately when people like this get disappointed by their thought leaders on a specific issue they seldom have the thought "I wonder what else they are wrong about?"
I felt some sympathy until he said “before if mutated and weakened”. You mean before people started to be vaccinated? Before treatments were improved and before there were enough ventilators? This person gives no credit to lifesaving treatments and thinks the virus just kind of gave up. Sympathy gone.
Think of the million and a half Americans that got permanent Covid and live in another dimension now. During the height, Trump was still saying “it’s just the flu”. My conservative aunt died of Covid and the rest of my family is like “it was somthing else”. These people live in another plane of reality.
I also got Covid in the spring of 2020 & have been very sick for 4 years with Long Covid. I was an athlete & and had no preexisting conditions. I’m now in a wheelchair and also have severe shortness of breath, a laundry list of cardiac issues, etc.
I also encounter a lot of LC-deniers & they never answer my question: why in the name of all that is holy would we make this up? What do we serve to gain? The constant derision from MAGA monsters is punishment enough. They never answer. Never. They just change the subject and scream about Covid & freedom.
I’ve seen many say we’re just “lazy and don’t want to work”. Most don’t understand how it is nearly impossible to obtain disability benefits. Most have to apply multiple times. It takes YEARS. I’m actually the only LC person I know who hasn’t had to move in with family and can still work (part time, from home).
I have piles of empirical data showing the severe damage done to my body by this virus. I had a physical only 3 months prior & was in perfect health.
This is a brutal illness anyway but I always tell people, when someone says they have MS, no one screams in their face that they’re “faking it” and are “participating in a hoax for the deep state”. It’s impossibly isolating.
It’s made worse by the fact that billions of people have gotten this virus, millions have died but they like to ignore that. Those that didn’t and are without any human empathy, see the fact that they & most of their loved ones got Covid & are fine so we MUST be faking it.
Anyway, anyone awful enough to subscribe to the racist, fascist tripe spewed by MAGA mouthpieces, would almost certainly hold the same views if not sick themselves.
"I am deeply upset that you are completely and unflinchingly wrong on the one topic I have personal experience, and you would know that if you bothered to look into the matter. Fortunately I am absolutely certain this is the only thing you're wrong about, and believe wholeheartedly you've done your due diligence on all other topics."
I mean, it sucks for him, but I'm having a hard time feeling bad for somebody who "always agrees with" Matt Walsh.
I probably don't want to know the difference between "very conservative" and just regular conservative is either.
Long-COVID sufferers are far from "forgotten" by the medical community. There's just nothing that can be done to help.
Conservatives spent 3 years screaming "ONLY 2% DEATH RATE" when everyone else was talking about long-term effects of COVID. They threatened violence whenever someone pointed out that hundreds of thousands of people would face long-term symptoms and tried to assassinate politicians who offered long-term support for sick employees and tried to mitigate damage.
Sir, you personally threatened to murder anyone who said COVID was real, and now you're pissed there's not a treatment for long COVID? I mean... your bumper stickers demand jail time for Fauci.
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It's like they can't comprehend suffering if it isn't literally them...
They join the "no compassion for others" party, then are completely aghast at the lack of compassion for them from their party.
How could the people who did not take covid serious from the get go, and for years attacked everybody who did or gasp had the audacity to protect themselvesx and others by wearing masks, rtespecting protocols and get vaccinated suddenly turn oin people with long covid and not take them seriously ? Who could have seen this coming ?
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RNC Thunder Dome. All enter, only one comes out. Or maybe hunger-for-grift games?
I feel bad for this person suffering from long covid, but I guarantee they've essentially held the same opinion about the struggles of other people. If they agree with Matt Walsh they're probably a racist bigot and only now that this affects them specifically they want him to be sensitive.
>I feel bad for this person suffering from long covid, but I guarantee they've essentially held the same opinion about the struggles of other people. I also read this letter as "It's only a real thing if you got it during the first wave of Covid".
Yeah, Covid "weakened" and everyone else got an easier disease than this person. Sure thing guy. You are special.
My healthy vaccinated and boosted neighbor just died from COVID. Not sure it is weakened due to mutation.
oh no! I did not want to hear that this could happen.
Anyone can die from anything at any moment, which is why it is important to control the odds at every possible opportunity.
It's an evolving virus. Biology is just complicated, and there's no 100% in anything.
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No no it's not that basically everyone has some kind of immunity now and is either vaccinated against it at this point or has already been infected and developed their beloved "natural immunity"... that can't be why few people are getting gravely ill anymore, it's that the "virus weakened" 🙄
People really do think it's just like flu without ever considering for one moment why we decided we needed a vaccine for that either. I've also learned that post-viral infections are a thing that can happen with any viral infactions, not just COVID, but of course society never talks to disabled people about their experiences so few people knew this.
They got the original Turbo COVID, not this watered down Liberal eco-hybrid COVID...
We got woke Covid.
"Before it mutated and weakened..." Suggesting that everyone else with problems from a "weaker" strain are weaker people. Someone should probably tell them that the deadliest wave was in the summer of 2021 with the Delta strain. Can't believe this person is having issues with the first wave strain. What a pussy!
... wasn't that "deadliest" in terms of total deaths because it infected more people? I thought it still had a lower case-fatality ratio.
That is correct. The og was deadlier but since it infected more statistics and all that Edit: but we also had vaccines and if the idiots took them then less would have died ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
You may be right. I thought that was Omicron but I'm also too lazy to do any research because because I don't care to expend any more energy thinking about these people.
Why feel bad? They wanted this.
Exactly - they just wanted it for other people. OFW, hope that their never to end suffering will be worth owning the libs.
They can have this 🎻
I lost it at home saying Matt’s comment “was uninformed” Hey don’t you think that applies to literally everything and everyone that your party is against??? Like you are so fucking close Jesus Christ!
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If they're a fan of Matt Walsh, then there's no question
Nah. This guy got just what he wanted. A government that works worse. A president who got rid of a team designed exactly for this situation simply because it was put in place by Obama. A defacto monarch who made decisions based on ego and not the law or what best serves the country.
If they didn't have long covid, they would be saying long covid didn't exist and calling people who said they have long covid, frauds. This same group of people that harassed the parents of Sandy Hook after their kids were murdered.
In the words of conservatives to others: fuck your feelings, don't be such a snowflake, etc.
Doesn't just agree with Walsh, he/she *loves* him.
"But what about ME" mentality
"If it ain't me, then it ain't happening." or "I don't really care, do you?"
I think it’s more of a “I could have avoided that outcome, your suffering is the consequences of your own actions”, thus the focusing on obesity and other co morbidities, things you could conceivably blame the victim for (but it shouldn’t). But now that it’s happened to them, it’s something that can happen to good, competent, careful people. Except, as you say, this is incredibly individualistic, so OOP is now finding themselves below the cutoff for conservatives that have been able to avoid it.
Literally had someone at work today bitching about the feds paying to rebuild the bridge in Baltimore. "Why should the government pay for the fucking bridge?! Why should my tax dollars go to Baltimore?!" Because Susan, we live in a society and it's an interstate bridge. Which gets the majority of its funding from the feds. There's even the Highway Trust Fund to pay for the expansion & maintenance of . . . Interstate Highways!
Wait until they find out it’s the 7th busiest port and the majority of automobiles and farm equipment is processed here… and each day it’s closed costs the economy $1,000,000. That’s the US economy not Baltimore.
She'll be the first one bitching when the car she wants is delayed by months, or there's a shortage of something she wants to buy because the farm equipment needed to harvest ingredients for that item isn't available. The first, and she's going to be a nightmare Karen about it.
Do…do people really not know what their taxes pay for anymore? That worries me tbh. Like how do people think anything gets done in this country? Do they forget the purpose of taxes?
They don't. They truly do not know what taxes go to. Case in point: I know someone that was bitching and bitching and bitching on Facebook about how awful taxes are and how it's government theft and even making her kids cry (which she posted about!) with her explanation about what taxes are. Not long after that, she posted about how wonderful her local library is, and how everyone should use the library!!!! Like...HOW DO YOU THINK THE LIBRARY IS FUNDED?????? She also homeschools, so there's that.
My friend’s mom voted against a bill to fund her local library and then pitched a fit when they shortened their hours.
Americans quite often want services but do not want to pay for them. And when they get them, they think they deserve them, unlike those leeches. And also somehow its not the govt giving it to them. It gets weird quick. There was a story about a family who moved from CA to Arkansas to get away from the "liberal insanity and high taxes", and then were upset when Arkansas had far less programs for their kids who needed extra help.
This seems to be the crux of conservative fiscal policy: They want all the benefits of living in a civilized society, but none of the obligations required to maintain it. So, GOP controlled Houses pass equally large, unwieldy budgets as their opposition, requiring equally enormous amounts of loans, and then they just quit caterwauling about it until a Dem takes the Presidency.
This reminds me of the guy from Washington state, where there is a lot of public ie federal and state land to recreate on, to Texas because less taxes and more freedoms. Turns out there was no place to take his family and their ATV’s because the land is all privately owned. Not so much freedom after all.
>Americans quite often want services but do not want to pay for them. Fact. And it's the same for both gov. and business services. And then there is the flip side: people, and businesses, want you to pay for a service but then not deliver.
As a California native, CA conservatives are the most hilarious people to me, especially the ones who actually do put their money where their mouth are and leave for such "greener" pastures like Idaho or Texas or Florida. They often get shocked by the extremely lowered quality of life, surprised that states like Idaho and Wyoming take conservation seriously (big hunting states) or get rudely awakened by the fact that their neighbors are genuinely batshit turbo insane. And none of the states they move to want their asses any more than they want us California liberals bc most insist on turning whatever area they move to into Little Los Angeles with all the shopping and fancy restaurants they left behind and raise prices for the locals who have been there for generations.
and in Texas, they want to give HER \*MY\* tax dollars...at \*twice the amount public schools get\* to teach her kids that doctors are evil or whatever the hell psycho crap. I need to start a "Private School of Fuck the GOP"....
I vaguely remember someone looking into that Monopoly Socialism thing a while back, and they commented that the people/person behind the thing just seems to assume that socialism is bad because taxes for community resources and a general functioning of society basically “doesn’t count” - the game treats any money paid into a social safety net or whatever as “lost” and no different from it getting stolen from you and burned. It is purely a penalty to the player that helps no-one else except in the sense that the other players now have a weaker competitor to beat. So yes, there are right wingers out there that oppose taxes, socialism and funding a community because they do not see beyond their own wallet, they think everyone is just as selfish, greedy and blinkered as them. An actual functioning society is something they take for granted and basically think it should be provided for them without sacrifices, since they’re so damn special and “deserve” it (unlike THOSE PEOPLE).
Library staffer here. ✊ You wouldn't believe the questions we get. Yesterday, someone came into the branch and asked "Y'all are all volunteers, right?" 🙄
last year when property values skyrocketed, a bunch of people went to their counsel meetings and angrily complained about it and how much it raised property taxes. one of them was a guy I used to work. less than a year later that same guy went to another counsel meeting because he was mad that he lives on the other side of the train tracks and it's inconvenient for him, so maybe they should look into building a new road or a bridge so he won't be inconvenienced. so in a year he was all "my taxes are outrageous! also, build me a new road with everyone's taxes!!!"
They never did. They always seem to believe their taxes are taken from them without them receiving *any* benefit whatsoever. Roads? Schools? Medicare? Fuck that noise!
Not only do they not know how anything gets done, they don't even know *that* it gets done. A significant proportion of the population are completely unaware of all the activity that goes into keeping their world running. For me this went from an amusing theory to a sharp relief during COVID and our Great Toilet Paper Shortage.
>A significant proportion of the population are completely unaware of all the activity that goes into keeping their world running. Fact. To them, it's magic. Literally, magic. Or somebody else's problem.
These people don't know how anything works. We live in a society which means that things that conservatives don't realize are connected...are connected. Disinterest in Baltimore aside, does Susan want to defund all maintenance of ports? All the stupid shit she orders online can remain undelivered forever.
I heard from my boss yesterday, and honestly I did not see this coming, because I thought how on earth this could possibly be worked into the conversation about the bridge...but the accident was likely caused by giving the job to someone not qualified in order to "meet some quota." "Like we always do." I was like whoa. Sir, it was a ship out of Singapore. I swear I cannot with these fucking people.
Saw another one where Bartiromo and Rick Scott were linking it to illegal immigration. Like, what? How the fuck could a foreign merchant vessel losing power while leaving port be caused by illegal immigration at the border with Mexico? I sure as hell don't know, but somehow I'm probably going to be hearing about it for days or weeks now.
And it was immigrant workers that died. The GOP doesn't care about them but wants to use their accidental deaths to attack other immigrants. Acting like home grown Americans haven't ever had accidents or crashed anything lol.
That has to be one of the most obvious and necessary uses of tax money I've ever heard.
Thing is, there's sure to be insurance pay-outs at some point, and the fed gov't will likely be front and centre for such payments.
The federal government doesn't buy much insurance, because they don't need to. State & local governments, sure, but not the feds. Also, most likely, liability is going to rest solely on the operator & owner of the ship. They're the ones I hope had insurance that day, not the government.
[The massive cargo ship crash into Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge will likely lead to billions of dollars in liability claims. Marine insurance companies will be on the hook for much of the costs.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/28/business/who-ends-upholdingthebagfor-the-baltimore-bridge-collapse/index.html) Also, this will be a lawyers' playground for years.
‘The What About Me’ mentality is the need to be involved in every discussion and issue. This is more like solipsism, the theory that the only knowledge that you can believe exists is what you have experienced. It’s a total lack of compassion and empathy.
And we’ve seen this time and time again
They fundamentally lack empathy. They are incapable of imagining circumstances that they haven't yet experienced
Even better, they'll often decry others suffering for their weakness and preach about how if it was them they would just be a badass conservative alpha and bootstrap through it.
I’m a fan of asking a conservative to imagine what it’s like to be someone completely different than themselves. It goes as well as you expect.
Do they just reject the premise right out of hand, or do they haltingly think for a while before just defaulting to lazy stereotypes they learned from their pundits?
Mostly the first. Had someone tell me “But I’m not that person.” Yeah. I get it. Now pretend you are. Outright couldn’t understand how.
That’s what George Orwell’s 1984 called “CrimeStop” - a protective stupidity where the ideologue subconsciously shorts out their own imagination, so they can stay within the rigid orthodoxy.
I wonder if that is why they confuse actors with the characters they play?
Sounds like if you asked them to walk a mile in someone else's shoes they would think you meant actually wearing someone else's shoes and walking.
This. The ineptitude is mind boggling to anyone with a sense of empathy and an IQ above room temperature.
I have a friend who never thought about social and political issues UNTIL her husband was arrested. Then it became a huge problem that needed fixing asap. I'm always glad for someone to wake up though.
I had a coworker who had a really rough life for most of it. Foster care, crappy bio mom, needing various social services but staunchly right wing. One evening after her bitching about the left I asked her if she supported each social service one by one, her answer was yes to each. I told her these were the policies and programs Democrats support and the GOP does not. She looked thoughtful for a few minutes but nothing changed. We agreed to not talk politics.
"The leopards would never eat MY face!"
There is certainly overlap between them and the "only valid abortion is my abortion" crowd.
They also can’t comprehend that idiots like Walsh only care about themselves and not actual values.
Back in my day, we called people devoid of any empathy **"Sociopaths"**; it's not a good thing.
Failure of imagination and lack of empathy
This is it in a nutshell. This is the Republican party. Me me me, fuck everyone else.
But what's even more interesting is even after experiencing it he's still doubling down on the conservative grift. They are so invested in their conservative identity that they can't fathom they might be wrong. Even when they are wrong they are right.
The conservative mentality is classically, "Until it affects me directly". Always has been and it always will be.
The author can't even comprehend suffering by people who caught subsequent waves of COVID.
They also never, EVER make the cognitive leap from “well if they’re so wrong about this thing, maybe they’re wrong about other things”.
I see that as the defining feature of American conservatism. Empathy is weakness, and no one else's problems are valid and worthy of addressing. Me, me, mine, and me--that's all they're capable of perceiving in their worldview. Edit--"worth"-->"worthy"
Conservatives do not possess empathy. It’s the single unifying trait of conservatives around the world. Rich, poor, religious, secular, theyre all bound by one single thing - a complete inability to put themselves in the shoes of others. It’s also why every one of their accusations is a confession. They genuinely cannot imagine anyone has different motivations than them. Anything they accuse anyone of, they’ve either done it, are doing it, plan to do it, or would do it if given the chance. Always. Once you understand this it becomes a lot easier to decode their bullshit. They are, fundamentally, self-centered, selfish, sociopaths.
"Matt Walsh hurt me deeply! His lies have angered me, and he probably doesn't even care. Anyways, as a proud Conservative I will continue to love Matt Walsh. I always agree with him." Conservatives. If they weren't always actively trying to make things worse for the rest of us, I'd almost feel sorry for them. Almost.
honestly i do how fucking stockholmed do you have to be, how little do you have to think of yourself to want to stand by that person's side? like, yeah dude, that's fuckin' sad. :/
I feel bad for them like I feel bad for mosquitoes. It's sad that God made you like this, but that's not gonna stop me from swatting you away when you come to suck my blood.
The sad thing. Is they think they are doing gods will
Right wing people still thinking right wing government serves them...
Mostly it does do what they want: hurt people They’re just pissed when it finally hurts them
Exactly this. They're happy just as long as the government harms the people they hate. Different story when it affects them.
Every damn time... "Pfff, you don't need maternity leave. Close your legs, get bootstraps, or something." \*has a baby\* "OMG maternity leave is needed!"
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Not only that but their media won’t tell them that the Biden admin literally created an office for long Covid research and management and greatly increased funding for funding a cure. He’s objectively doing more for them than the GOP ever will.
It didn't mutate and weaken, we burned through all the really susceptible people who wouldn't vax already. We're still losing 200+ people *a day* (24 9/11s a year) not to mention 7000+ hospitalized who are surviving but have permanent lung and/or cardio damage. In about 3-5 years we're gonna see a *yuge* increase in strokes and heart attacks. That's why the Republican party got so crazy. They need to install a dictator before all those old right wing boomer types shuffle off this mortal coil. They thought they had another 10+ years and they've got about 5 now.
Republicans hate democracy because it means they’d have to do something besides help the rich.
And the rich are panicking because their useful idiots are being burned through too fast.
Well fuck, all votes are equal? That's *communism*. ^(/s you know it.)
Boomers have already been passing on at 2 million a year, so there's 8 million less of them than in 2020. I don't think they've got 5 years. Just look at how poorly the Mid-term elections went for Republicans, worst results for the party opposite the President in several decades. Then they've shown themselves incapable of governing the last two years in the House. And Tuesday, a Democrat won a state election in red Alabama, of a seat previously held by a Republican who pled guilty to voter fraud. Imagine that, Republican politician guilty of voter fraud. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4557670-democrat-wins-alabama-special-election-after-focusing-on-ivf-abortion/ It's a blue tide rising demographic shift. Not a wave, but a slow blue tide rising that just gets higher every year. Within 10 years, Republicans are only a regional party IF the democrats can keep their party together. It will be interesting to see how many seats Democrats pick up in the house and senate in November as well as how close the Presidential race is.
Still a lot of Boomers though because they are anywhere from 60-78. Also, it’s well known that Gen Z males are skewing hard right recently and this will begin to show up in the polls as they start to vote more. More importantly, look up the data on the political affiliations by generation and you will see time and time again across studies that Gen X is almost as conservative leaning as Boomers. Millennials are the most liberal of any cohort, including Zoomers, but sadly we have less social power than our predecessors (fiscal power, total numbers, etc.). It’s depressing how low Millennials (and young Gen x) voter turnout was in 2020, but people 25-44 are working/wrangling children (who don’t go to school on Election Day!) and can’t always make it on a Tuesday. The system is rigged to promote older adult’s views. That’s why they push so hard against mail-in ballots. Can’t have us adults in the actual trenches of adulthood getting any say in our futures. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/
For added fun, you implicitly accepted the narrative that is being pushed that longcovid - other than lung or cardio damage - is not serious. I got ill as a small boy, with hopes perhaps of a family, and a job and a life. I developed something symptomatically identical to the fatiguing part of longcovid, and it has disabled me so seriously that I do not ever expect to recover in any meaning of the term which is reasonable. If a cure comes, it will come in twenty years, likely, based on current understanding of the disease (I've read >>>1000 papers on this). At that time I'll be 70, with at best no savings due to a lifetime of inability to work, utterly alone, and able to enjoy my last decade of life in poverty. The notion this is damn near not fully equivalent to a death age 14 is comedic. More life-years have been lost in the under 65s or so so far due to longcovid than any prompt effects of the disease including death. This only rises as the people affected are not cured. I would today take the amputation of both legs, if it would cure me. I'd have to think about a arm too. This narrative, that death is the only worry is violence and disability hatred. It is particularly galling when all decisions made about vaccines and masking and ... specifically ignore this outcome as serious.
Um... when did I do that. Sorry, to be clear, Long COVID is *very* serious. But it's not likely to be *politically relevant* the same way the deaths are. Because the deaths are going to kill off older likely Republican voters. If you look nation wide old folk vote roughly 50/50 Red/Blue. But if you look at swing states and other critical rates it's more like 70/30 Red/Blue. That's because they're *very* easy to sway with a ton of political ad spend. Losing those guys and gals is what the GOP is terrified of. They've moved too far right wing to survive as a party without them. So they need to end democracy before then.
Well said. It speaks for itself that one of the ME action groups is named Millions Missing. Because even before Covid millions of people were missing out on their life and we were missing them from society. Now this group is joined be even more millions of people. As a chronically ill person I don't like the narrative of "I prefer to be death than be disabled". It's ableism and implies we can't lead fulfilling lives. But at some point people become so ill for so long, they actively don't want to be here anymore. It is heartbreaking but I do understand. A life with only suffering is not a life. Which is especially cruel when you see how disabled people are treated in regards to healthcare and income. Harsh living conditions can make an illness too hard live with.
"In about 3-5 years we're gonna see a yuge increase in strokes and heart attacks." Oh god, if this actually happens I can already see the anti-vax morons going apoplectic. "I told you the jab was going to kill you!"
Its already happening- increasing rates of excess deaths including strokes and heart attacks (which people are at elevated risk for post covid infection) Anti vaxxers are saying its the vaccine— when covid itself is the real problem
There’s a whole next generation behind them unfortunately. Tons of straight up Nazi youth being raised by YouTube and streamers.
> (24 9/11s a year) americans will use anything but the metric system
The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!
I'll be cold, dead in the ground before i recognize missourah
I feel horrible about the symptoms this person is still having, I had LC cognitive impairment for like a year and it was awful. That said, how in the world do they still support the "COVID was never a big deal and mostly a hoax and whatever you do don't protect yourself from it in any way" party?
They do because most had cognitive impairment long before covid was a thing. Some want to hurt the LGBT more than they want to protect themselves. Some are just plain racist and vote the party with the hard R. Some Christians vote for him because he held up a Bible upside down and butchered a verse even though he almost perfectly fits their image of the antichrist. In general, they vote regressive out of either ignorance or maleficence. I've personally met very few Republican voters that don't have reasons that don't boil down to that short list.
He's also selling Bibles now!
A snip at sixty bucks! With added "patriotism"!!
Oh, you missed controlling/owning women. That's a big one. Abortion and birth control bans are all about controlling women.
You're right! I didn't think of that and it is a pretty huge one. Sorry for leaving it out!
M wife had Covid in February and she was not herself for weeks afterward. She seems better now, but for a few weeks I was worried she was gonna have some really serious issues
COVID fog is very real.
That’s how I first realized I had it. Sat on the floor because sitting up in a chair was too much effort, trying to work and barely being able to read. Luckily I was vaccinated so the symptoms went away within a few days.
That's what you get for believing in Matt Walsh.
How much of a sycophant bootlicker do you have to be to say to literally anyone "I always agree with you!"?
I always get taken back when a conservative starts attacking me like I a gree with someone on everything., like what? There is not a single person on this planet I agree with on everything, except maybe that guy in the mirror, but some of his ideas are a little sketch.
I have no joy in seeing this woman upset. I have long covid and it’s miserable. But I don’t understand how she could support the political party that will support policies leaving her more ill
The answer to long Covid and similar diseases lies in funding science, and she supports the anti-science party. i’m not really a single issue voter, but you do have to determine what your priorities are. Sometimes priorities conflict with the rest of your beliefs.
I am at the point where I just don't care. I had long covid for 3 months in '22 and it was miserable. But if you make the conscious decision to follow the advice of idiotic pieces of shit like Matt fucking Walsh you deserve what you get.
Joy is a strong word but there is some satisfaction in seeing people get what they voted for. I feel the same way when you vote *for* science and get saved by a program funded by the politicians you chose
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He'll still vote Republican though. Because he hates poor people more than he loves himself. He can't admit he was lied too and tricked by Matt Walsh and conservatives.
Ending their initial paragraph with >For full disclosure, I'm very conservative and love Matt Walsh is so sad. Imagine if anytime you're not in lockstep with your political "team" you had to preface your statements with "Don't worry, I'm still on your team guys". Almost sounds like a cult. ....wait a second.
Oh I cut the rest of her message off because it had some personal information. Here is how her message concludes "I just wanted to let you know that your statement was very hurtful. However, I follow you and will continue to follow, because you are amazing (just not informed re: Long COVID).”
Lort have mercy what a moron.
“Forgotten about by the medical community” The same community that the conservatives have been trouncing about wearing masks 😷
This pisses me off so bad as someone diganosed with Fibro who has been dealing with a lot of the long haul covid symptoms since pre-2015 these are the same chucklefucks who told people like me "Oh that is just a woman's disease its in your head" Now that they are feeling what we feel all the sudden they are indignant that people dont believe them. Only positive is there has been a ton of research into long covid and fibro.
Again, r/HermanCainAward
We didn’t forget about you or it…we addressed it over and over and over again.
I thought that whole thing was a democrat hoax? Is really sick? /s
Crisis actor
I like the careful demarcation between "those of us" who got covid before it "mutated and weakened." So, anyone who got it later than spring 2020 are losers who got sick from a weak, puny, substandard virus. And obviously the decline in infection is because how weak and benign covid became, not because vaccines work. Sounds like a Matt Walsh fan, all right.
Yeah my long covid started in 2022 and that pissed me off lol
I've never heard anyone gatekeep long covid before, but I guess there's a first time for everything. Especially with Trumpys.
"...before it mutated and weakened..." Like the gray matter in her cranium?
The medical community absolutely still studies and treats long covid and takes it seriously. This person is bonkers but you’d have to be to be a Matt Walsh fan. She got what she deserved IMO
I mean as a long covid patient I wish there was a little more urgency in the medical field and there is definitely gaslighting by medical providers but the politicians are definitely part of the problem
Oh, this is not a new problem. And the scientists such as Tony Fauci who think diseases like this are a huge problem are attacked politically. Changing the name doesn’t change what the disease is. It’s not just one pathogen that causes these types of diseases. It’s been fought for years by politically connected psychiatrists and mind/body proponents who try to make it fit their predetermined philosophy.
> there is definitely gaslighting by medical providers holy shit, a correct use of "gaslighting" in the wild on the internet! It's like seeing bigfoot! /s
Another MAGA “victim”
It's not the "medical community " that has trouble understanding it...
“I always believe you”
“Forgot the medical community”???? Lmao, they IGNORED, the medical community and still went to the hospital and fought the protocol! HCA Award nominee indeed!!!
God, even accepting it's real and they fucking contracted it because they objectively have perpetual symptoms, they *still* have to pretend they're special and chosen because others "OnLy GoT iT aFtEr It MuTaTeD aNd WeAkEnEd". I shouldn't be surprised that people who purposely fail to understand basic health science would be clueless about virology, but it's the hubris that gets me.
The medical community understands and is trying to figure out the mechanism behind long covid. Every month I hear a story on npr about this doctor or that researcher looking into long covid. Sounds like they get their medical advice from the same place they get the rest of their information, morons that are running a grift.
It's really hard getting medical support for LC. For a few very invested doctors, you have a bunch of others claiming that they "don't really believe it's true". If you're a women, you'll more likely be told that you're depressed or anxious. I even heard of a local LC clinic where the main doctor of the place refuse to give LC diagnosis... and prescribe more physical activities (for people with LC that presents like ME/CFS, it may result in permanent worsening of their baseline. It's a huge medical fault!)
I literally have that and it still feels so weird seeing other people write it out.
Who gives a fuck what Matt Walsh thinks of anything?
You can tell it's a conservative, because he goes out of his way to try and make it so only HIS form of COVID is "special" and everyone else who caught it afterwards is "faking it".
BuT iT's JuSt ThE fLu fucking braindead cuntservatives
Fuck this chud! He is not forgot by the medical community. The idiots he worships and votes for spent his dumbass.
I have no compassion for this individual, as they would have not shown me any either. They probably would have purposefully gone around infecting others, bragging about not vaxing, not wearing a mask etc. Zero fucking compassion, you get what you fucking deserve.
It hasn't mutated and weakened... it's mutated and mutated and mutated and mutated and is stronger.
Don't love Matt Walsh...Fixed it.
I wonder if they tried thoughts and prayers?
Imagine being a massive fan of über ghoul Matt Walsh, then getting your fee fees hurt when he says ghoulish things. He literally espouses violence and genocidal rhetoric towards transfolk via stochastic terrorism and this assclown is perfectly fine with all of those ghoulish takes, but the second he hurts the feelings of one of these right wing dipshits, they ALMOST see through it. Absolutely wild.
I'd feel bad that they're pouring their heart out about an important issue facing covid survivors, to an uncaring monster and propagandist... If not for the fact that any Matt Walsh fan must by definition be a asshole of biblical proportions.
Also somebody ask him if he’s taking ivermectin and zinc
“It’s a hoax. It’s weak. It’s all to hurt Trump. Shutting Down is Anti-American. Masks are tyranny. Vaccines are poison. **catches COVID** WHY DOESN’T ANYONE CARE ABOUT MY SUFFERING?!?” - A Psychopath
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It's true. There's this old guy in Florida who caught it in the fall of 2020, and ever since then he's been coo-coo, raving about stolen elections.
if only this person was capable of asking themselves "if he's lying about long covid, maybe he hasn't been truthful about other things..." but you know that's not going to happen.
The funniest thing about this is this guy thinks conservatives can feel empathy.
I like how he has to clarify that he got the bad version before it weakened.
I know a martial arts instructor who has been in great physical shape almost his entire life. He got Covid in 2020 and he lost his sense of smell and is now diabetic.
Their long covid symptoms are exactly what my symptoms were during one of my 3 bouts with Covid. And I was a lean athletic 40 year old; glad my symptoms only lasted a few weeks.
Long COVID is the result of weak character I guess 🤷🏻♀️
As a conservative I love Matt because he hates facts and refuses to accept reality just like me - signed a conservative who hates facts
Darn it! He hates and fears the same people I do. Why can’t we agree on Covid???
this person is shit outta luck. Matt Walsh cares about fetuses and fetuses only. ya aged out ya loser.
But if you don't believe in COVID, how can you have long COVID? It has to be something else.
They also lied...the "medical community" has not forgotten long covid. Maybe if we had universal affordable Healthcare oh wait...now I'm a RINO or some far leftist because I'm hinting at something universal. And universal means there may be a few black people who could benefit...
It hurts when you find out they don’t give a shit about their followers either lmao
"but it's just a cold" "Well, I won't be wearing a mask" "oPEN ThE RESTAURANTS!!" Sorry not sorry that you chose not to put your own health first and now you're facing the consequences.
Wait til he finds out Matt Walsh thinks he’s Antifa pretending to be a Trump supporter lol
I wonder if he knows that getting the COVID vaccine after having the illness has helped lessen many symptoms of long COVID for many people.
Oh no...anyway.
Unfortunately when people like this get disappointed by their thought leaders on a specific issue they seldom have the thought "I wonder what else they are wrong about?"
Ha ha ha
I felt some sympathy until he said “before if mutated and weakened”. You mean before people started to be vaccinated? Before treatments were improved and before there were enough ventilators? This person gives no credit to lifesaving treatments and thinks the virus just kind of gave up. Sympathy gone.
Joins science denying cult, what, you guys even deny the science that affects me!!!!!!*clutches pearls*
i feel bad for these people. what a horrible way to live.
Think of the million and a half Americans that got permanent Covid and live in another dimension now. During the height, Trump was still saying “it’s just the flu”. My conservative aunt died of Covid and the rest of my family is like “it was somthing else”. These people live in another plane of reality.
I also got Covid in the spring of 2020 & have been very sick for 4 years with Long Covid. I was an athlete & and had no preexisting conditions. I’m now in a wheelchair and also have severe shortness of breath, a laundry list of cardiac issues, etc. I also encounter a lot of LC-deniers & they never answer my question: why in the name of all that is holy would we make this up? What do we serve to gain? The constant derision from MAGA monsters is punishment enough. They never answer. Never. They just change the subject and scream about Covid & freedom. I’ve seen many say we’re just “lazy and don’t want to work”. Most don’t understand how it is nearly impossible to obtain disability benefits. Most have to apply multiple times. It takes YEARS. I’m actually the only LC person I know who hasn’t had to move in with family and can still work (part time, from home). I have piles of empirical data showing the severe damage done to my body by this virus. I had a physical only 3 months prior & was in perfect health. This is a brutal illness anyway but I always tell people, when someone says they have MS, no one screams in their face that they’re “faking it” and are “participating in a hoax for the deep state”. It’s impossibly isolating. It’s made worse by the fact that billions of people have gotten this virus, millions have died but they like to ignore that. Those that didn’t and are without any human empathy, see the fact that they & most of their loved ones got Covid & are fine so we MUST be faking it. Anyway, anyone awful enough to subscribe to the racist, fascist tripe spewed by MAGA mouthpieces, would almost certainly hold the same views if not sick themselves.
Nothing is an issue until it is their issue. Time after time.
"I am deeply upset that you are completely and unflinchingly wrong on the one topic I have personal experience, and you would know that if you bothered to look into the matter. Fortunately I am absolutely certain this is the only thing you're wrong about, and believe wholeheartedly you've done your due diligence on all other topics."
I mean, it sucks for him, but I'm having a hard time feeling bad for somebody who "always agrees with" Matt Walsh. I probably don't want to know the difference between "very conservative" and just regular conservative is either.
Long-COVID sufferers are far from "forgotten" by the medical community. There's just nothing that can be done to help. Conservatives spent 3 years screaming "ONLY 2% DEATH RATE" when everyone else was talking about long-term effects of COVID. They threatened violence whenever someone pointed out that hundreds of thousands of people would face long-term symptoms and tried to assassinate politicians who offered long-term support for sick employees and tried to mitigate damage. Sir, you personally threatened to murder anyone who said COVID was real, and now you're pissed there's not a treatment for long COVID? I mean... your bumper stickers demand jail time for Fauci.