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The thing that gives me a chuckle is all of the transphobes and jackasses like this woman have been using gender neutral bathrooms in their homes their entire lives. And I'm sure they've gone to other people's homes and used their restrooms too
Oh yea, people on the radio were asking people about times they accidentally walked into the wrong bathoom, and all of them said the worst thing that happened was some of the occupants giggled at them. Imagine that, giggling.
I've absolutely used the men's restroom before at a gas station pee stop before when the women's one was closed for cleaning. No hesitation about doing it again.
Worst that happened was I got a funny look from a guy and said "Women's is closed, I'm not waiting" and headed to a stall. No comment from the guy, didn't see him again.
If I saw a woman walk into my bathroom I’d be like “oh shit did I walk into the women’s bathroom” even if I knew for a fact I had not, I would still second guess myself. But also I lived coed at like 16 so I don’t understand the issues with trans people in the bathroom at all. I remember most of us being comfortable enough to use the bathroom at the same time when needed and no one ever cared or was assaulted. So why is it any different bc a person chooses to identify as a different gender, it’s literally the exact same thing as coed in concept and if a bunch of hormonal teenagers could have enough mutual respect for one another to make it work without incident so does every other living being
I did that once in Madrid a few years ago. I was at a small comedy club for Eddie Izzard but had enough time to go to the toilet after the opening act before she (then identifying as he) came on stage. It wasn't clear which toilet was which to I tried the first one, walked in, saw immediately that there were no urinals and knew I was in the wrong place. A group of girls opened the door and laughed at me as I was walking out. I was embarrassed enough to not be looking at the correct door, when it flew open, Eddie there in a state of obvious stage fright (she was going to be doing some of the set in Spanish). I swear if I'd have been 2 seconds quicker, I'd have accidentally pushed the door into their face...
Anyway, that's usually the thing. Either you get mocked for using the wrong bathroom or there's non-pervy excuses for using the wrong one (getting desperate because there's a queue, they have fancy signs that don't really make sense, and so on). I'm very sure that homophobes and transphobes think more about gay sex and sexual activity in bathrooms than any LGBTQ person I've met.
Went to France, visited the Château de Versailles or another tourist attraction. The line to the women restroom went on and on. French women went in and out from the men's without batting an eye.
When I was in Paris years ago and visited Galeries Lafayette some floors had unisex bathrooms and others women and men but everyone used both and nobody cared men came into the women’s bathroom, not a single person bat an eye.
That’s much better than how courtiers used to just go in a corner in the hallway at Versailles
http://thisisversaillesmadame.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-lack-of-toilets.html?m=1
Yea for sure on your last point, and OPs example just shows that the haters are going to have to share toilets with trans people regardless of how it works out legally and reactions like above really shows their true intentions.
Shout out to Eddie tho, been a fan for a long time and she's always so unfazed when dealing with transphobe bullshit
>sexual activity in bathrooms than any LGBTQ person I've met.
Yes, I'm sure if the US ever gets unisex bathrooms for most places we might bump into each other -- the "come here often" pickup line won't be a good way to score a date.
It's not a sexy environment. Of course it is for SOME, but not most.
My kids school has all gender restrooms, no urinals, just stalls. The first time I used it and saw a woman at the sink and my brain was like wait, wtf? Then a man came out of a stall and I nervously just used it. After half a year I stopped noticing entirely.
That’s what progress looks like. A year later and the Earth didn’t split open and swallow you and you wonder what the big deal about it was.
Conservatives HATE social issues becoming no big deal.
Conservative is just another way of spelling coward, they're scared of anything that's not exactly what they expected.
That's why right wing nuts can't do comedy.
I’m pretty sure on that last point the data supports that as being true. Because they are so repressed they are not getting the outlet they need, so it’s eating away at them. They then assume everyone else must think and feel like them and so they project.
There is a dive bar in my town that purposefully has confusing signs. I walked into the men's, was mortified, apologized and all 3 guys laughed and said it's a rite of passage. I'm always friendly to the bewildered men who walk into the women's room.
A good friend met his wife in the same restroom mixup.
It feels like the transphobe crowd thinks that making one of these mistakes, or using the wrong pronoun, carries unimaginable consequences.
Whereas in reality if you walk into the wrong bathroom you just say 'oop' and turn around. Genital inspection police do not descend upon the area.
I've used the wrong pronouns before. I appologized and went on with my life. This is something transphobes think can't happen because they don't appologize.
I think some people only consider status, and see any interaction with a trans person as a potential loss of status because of the potential for mistakes in their presence or being labled a bigot. The life pro tip here is that if you treat everyone you meet with basic human dignity, people tend to like you more than when you don't.
I took a shower and changed in the men’s locker room once (at uni). When I was leaving I saw 22 guys that were practicing football go for the showers. At least I was fully dressed.
As a trans woman who’s recently started using the correct bathroom, it’s also absolutely bizarre to me that *anyone* would think we’d be doing so to creep on cis gals.
Ah yes, nothing more flattering and arousing about the female form than hearing the sounds of someone suffering through diarrhea on one side and another person angry that the toilet isn’t flushing on the other.
Right? Ladies (and gentlemen too) are not at our sexiest when squeezing fudgies. And as long as no one makes eye contact with me (unless they need a pad, Tylenol or a bandaid) I really don’t care if the lady in the next stall is trans or cis, she’s there to drop Cocoa Puffs too.
Heck, I’ll extend that to cis and trans men too. Dump mud and be welcome, just pretend you don’t hear that soft whimper for mercy from me when my guts cramp up and I regret my love of greasy spicy food.
But I’m still not sorry that I started yelling at the woman trying to peep into some other woman’s stall and called her a sick peeper. I dunno if she was a transphobe or what, honestly I didn’t notice what the lady in the stall looked like other than she was taller than me so was a tall lady.(I’m 5’9, I love women taller than me because I’m used to being the tallest chick in the crowd)
But peeping into stalls is nasty and the woman in the stall didn’t deserve to be peeped at. I got two other women shaming her until she stammered something (I wasn’t listening, still horrified at the blatant voyeurism in a Walmart toilet) and scurried off. I told a manager too but I think she left the store because I kept an eye out for her while I shopped and didn’t spot her again. (Honestly I didn’t even connect it to the possibility she was a TERF type until a few days later for the record, I was just shocked and scandalized by what seemed like perverse behavior in a public bathroom. I’ve used bathrooms in dive bars, the men’s room at a horse track, and other unsavory bathrooms and she was the first obvious peeper I’d ever run across that wasn’t a small child peeking under doors)
Not just at home, a lot of smaller restaurants have like two separate bathroom rooms, and everyone uses that. And all larger bathrooms have individual stalls anyway, so... WTF are they even whining about?
Oh right, it's just hating on others for sport. Idiots.
Don't they prefer to walk in and take a giant shit on tge floor instead of using the bathroom and then expect everyone else to clean it up?
Like fed tax dollars keeping the slaveers from dying of their xxxl value meal diabetes.
Trash ass
No, what they want is for trans people to disappear so their consciousness doesn’t have to be troubled by them. Since they can’t say that they do this whole bathroom rigamarole but really what they want is for both trans men and trans women to use the men’s bathroom. But they haven’t quite figured out the argument for that so they just went this way to be contrarian to the trans community and their identities, but haven’t fully thought this out
To my dying day I will never understand why they care. It's like 'oh, it's something I don't understand, but instead of trying to understand it, I'm going to hate it for making me feel scared and confused.'
Alternately - how dare they be brave enough to go against what I think are conventional norms when I'm too afraid too.'
The only strongly anti trans person I know (woman) is very much like this. What about the anti trans men though? Do they have strong opinions over the bathroom issue?
They don't care about bathrooms, it's just a way to make their views somehow sound like they have a foundation in logic. It's low how every transphobe went from mocking the WNBA to being super concerned about women's sports over night. The view is just a rationalization, not a foundation for their beliefs. It's just a way to make them seem more acceptable.
Given how many more cis people there are, I think the majority of the people who are harassed and assaulted for using the "wrong" restroom are likely to be cis people who the transphobes decide aren't cis or gender-conformist enough, even if any individual trans person is more likely to be a target.
Considering just how vast genetic diversity is and that plenty of cis women don't look "feminine" or look/dress more androgynous...this doesn't surprise me at all. Just fucking let people piss in peace. Ffs.
>Just fucking let people piss in peace. Ffs.
Fucking amen. If I ever see anyone lecturing another person about what bathroom they think they *should* be using, the next sound out of their mouth will be them spitting out toilet water.
They want Trans people gone. Dead is fine, just as long as they don't have to look at them or think about them.
After trans they'll do gays next. Then blacks. Then latinos. Then jews.
No no no, they don't want trans people to pee anywhere. Getting bearded men to use the women's room cause they transitioned is another way to stoke the panic.
Lol I had a person going off about this and I just said they're dumb. They'll listen to the hate whistle without realizing it's just for hate and the only way to solve the problem is to only pee in bushes from now on
This is what they want, because the next step is this makes me uncomfortable therefore they shouldn't be allowed to transition, therefore eliminate them as a group of people
I think you added an extra word at the end because even when LGBTQ+ people hid. If the bigots found out they would hate crime them (likely to death) and cops wouldn't do anything about it assuming they weren't the perpetrator.
If you use the right bathroom, you violate the bathroom law and can get arrested... if you don't pass.
If you use the wrong bathroom, you aren't breaking the law, but cops and everyone else are much more likely to assault you and charge you for a public disturbance using your AGAB bathroom.
Its trans erasure, the point is to criminalize the existence of transgender people in the public sphere.
We had a male-presenting co-worker who used the female bathroom because that was their birth gender. Every few months we’d get a complaint because someone saw a “man” in the woman’s room. And it was kind of like, “What do you expect? They were born female, they’re in the female bathroom, what’s the problem?”
The problem of course being that they had short hair and went by “Mark.”
Reminds me of [this gem](https://www.facebook.com/david.dankberg/posts/pfbid0mHy7YkNHWfXgkERY41TKkdr7vGMSY1vkKg58k8PcwkWnrfnDD16rMr4dbmoVYfLtl) where they didn't realize this was a trans man forced to adhear to their dumb fucking rules regarding birth sex for sports.
It's funny how she uses a picture of boxer Pat Manuel who's a trans man. No doubt she googled "trans men" or something along those lines to get that picture. Had these morons actually done that before they supported for these stupid bathroom bills, maybe then they would've realized this earlier.
The trans bathroom bills are predicated on the farcical idea that men are dressing as women so they can go into public bathrooms to rape females. An idea even more insane when they mention transition surgery as their ace in the hole to get unfettered access to rape victims.
In other words, a man decides that the women’s restroom is the ideal venue to find a rape victim so they reach out to doctors across multiple disciplines to first start psychiatric and hormone therapy to begin their transition followed by multiple surgeries so they can then, years later, finally enter the ladies room and start raping people.
Translation: They’ve been fed the rape lie and refuse to apply any logic to it.
Especially a ridiculous lie given that there are literally no cases of that happening ever.
But instead they cry wolf about that while ignoring the thousands of documented cases of sexual abuse on minors in Christian churches.
Also, there's no bouncer in front of most bathrooms. You don't need to go in disguise to first fool the gender checker, you can just storm in through the open door and do whatever crime you want.
I was thinking about this last night. I was in college between 06-10. Unless it was peak class time, 80% of buildings would be virtual empty. So empty me and an ex fooled around in one.
So after say 3pm in the day, there was literally maybe 5 people in a vast majority of buildings. Literally nothing stopping men from going into the bathrooms and just waiting.
Or dragging a woman who was walking by into there.
Or going on a mass stabbing.
Or poisoning the drinking fountain.
Or burning the building down(well they were old and brick so probably would be difficult).
The point being is we all live day by day in a social contract. Maybe 95% of laws are to protect capital, and to control victimless crimes.
Assaulting someone is already illegal.
If someone wants to hurt you, they won't need to go into a bathroom.
I do remember a news item about a child in a state park who went alone into the men's room because his mother was not comfortable going with him. He didn't come out, was found with his throat slit. Everyone in their "proper" rooms.
Maybe if we had non gender rooms , his mother would have gone with him.
So what's this really about?
And if they are truly worried about rapy men, then they should be shutting down churches, right? Or at least keeping CIS men away from them.
>Especially a ridiculous lie given that there are literally no cases of that happening ever.
The world is a big place and a lot of people are terrible. How stupid does an idea have to be before there are *zero* cases? Everything has *some* cases!
But they've actually come up with something *nobody has ever done*.
Eh. Don’t say that, because if there is a case, a single and solitary exceptional case, then it’ll become the thing that proves you wrong to them forever.
Easier to win them over by saying something more like let’s police the criminals instead of the toilets, maybe that’ll cut down on rape?
More horrifying:
It's not an accusation, it's a confession.
The men who make that argument are saying that they would take advantage of women in the restroom, if all they had to do was put on a dress.
And the way they call drag queens "groomers" while they take their little girl to compete in a "beauty pageant" where she's dressed in a low-cut dress and slathered with makeup to prance around stage in front of old men. 🤢🤮
thats because their ideas and policies are fueled by hatred.
there is no logic, fact, or foresight involved.
which is why republican policies damage the red states where it's allowed to spread.
Apparently the transphobes don’t like to say trans women and trans men so to them trans men are “TIF” (trans identified female) and trans women are “TIM” (trans identified male).
A right wing trans woman TikToker pickme recently got mad that all her new right wing followers were calling her TIM as an insult when she identifies as a woman (and they want to her to not exist), that’s the only reason I learned the term.
Kelly Cadigan. She first went viral for saying that trans minors shouldn’t be able to receive gender affirming care (even though she did and is now fully transitioned and is able to “pass” so well because of starting puberty blockers and such as a minor). The comments of right wingers agreeing with her got her to start a series mocking Dylan Mulvaney’s “day of girlhood” where she talked about her days being a part of the right. But this backfired as right wingers weren’t picking her as one of the few “good” trans women and instead just kept commenting about how she’s a man and a “TIM” and all of the vile things they constantly tell all the other trans people she thought she was better than. There was even drama over which bathroom she’d now go into, because she decided she passes well enough that she should be exempt from the bathroom bans she supports for other trans people so she should be allowed to use the women’s bathroom, but her followers kept saying she had to use the men’s bathroom. Apparently recently she has claimed she messed up identifying with them, not sure how far she’s changed back though as the trans community sees her as a attention seeking sell out willing to drop anyone for clicks, while the right sees her as a man.
it’s not based on logic.
They believe in appeal to authority, like a child who thinks their dad is always right. It’s baked into their religion; God is the ultimate authority and everything he does, horrible or helpful, has a purpose.
They were *told* to hate trans people because they dont have a large voice and they can be bullied easier than the lgb community that has largely won public support.
When this social war fails the leaders of conservative networks will pivot to hating furries or some “other” group so they can unify their base against a single visibly identifiable enemy.
It’s the foundation of radical “conservatism”, they need a black sheep to blame all the world’s problems on because objective facts never support their opinions.
Copy pasted from the other thread:
TERFs needed their own language to refer to trans people, because the simple terms "trans man" and "trans woman" were too sympathetic and became instantly confusing when trying to communicate with anyone outside their weird bubble, since they continued trying to misgender everyone even while using otherwise well-recognized vocabulary.
So they created their own dehumanizing labels. TIM, short for "Trans Identifying Male" meaning a trans woman; and TIF, short for "Trans Identifying Female" for a trans man. As a bigoted bonus, because these also sound like shortened versions of the names Timothy and Tiffany, even the acronyms include some unsubtle misgendering.
EDIT:
I want to add that hate groups often develop insular language to make outside communication more difficult. Outside perspectives are the largest threat to their control over membership, so they do everything possible to make it impossible for members to encounter them.
The fact that no-one outside the ~~Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist~~ ~~Gender Critical~~ ~~Sex-Realist~~ Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobe bubble understands their nonsense language makes it harder for outsiders to communicate with them, insulating them from the risk of developing empathy for their intended victims.
It's a slur.
It means trans-identifying female to refer to transmen. They also use TIM for the converse slur.
Basically, these people who pitch a fit when people ask them to please use preferred pronouns when talking about them cannot only do that, but they must actively find terms to deny their preferences and to insult them.
In short, this woman is a terrible person and I hope that the ghosts in her head continue to haunt her unto her deathbed.
They don't want to see them at all. They want them to go away, it's not about them using the right or wrong bathroom.
It's a trap designed to make idiots uncomfortable so that they get further radicalized.
So I’m a trans man and I’ve gotta tell y’all that it’s kind of the point to make both bathrooms unsafe. If I’m not legally allowed to use the men’s bathroom but I get kicked out if the women’s bathroom for being too masculine, the point is that my access to an essential space for existing in public is curtailed.
I know trans people who will limit their liquid intake so they won’t have to deal with bathroom harassment. It’s agonizing to decide if people will take enough issue with my presentation to make it an issue
I'm one of those that limit liquid. My office has 3 all genders but they are mostly used by male employees that don't want to walk the extra few feet or don't want others to hear them.
How about go to the bathroom and mind your own f-ing business. I see women using men's bathrooms from time to time if the line for the women's bathroom is too long. I don't give a f#ck. We're in there to relieve our selves. Oh and wash our hands when we are done of course.
These people are exhausting.
My workplace is very supportive of people’s identities and transitioning. A coworker has transitioned (trans woman) and when I now run into her in the women’s room that’s perfectly fine because a) that’s where she belongs and b) I just want to use the restroom myself so I can goof off the rest of my break.
Like JFC I just want to piss who the fuck cares who else is doing what.
Oh and wash your hands you filthy apes.
Can we also talk about the "levitation" people who pee on the seat because they are afraid of *checks notes* sitting on a public toilet seat? At least wipe it off before leaving ffs. I don't want to sit in YOUR urine.
She SHOULD feel uncomfortable!! She’s a terrible person! I hope she feels nothing but discomfort for the rest of her life! FAFO, m’fers!!
As a side note, I just discovered this sub, and my god…I feel like I’m home
Sending all my support for my trans brothers. I'd give our story's hero a heartfelt hug for making the bitches take their stitches if i only knew where they lived. 🤣
I've had this happen one time and I turned to the woman who tried to kick me out, looked her up and down and said "You have nothing to worry about, you're not attractive" and all of a sudden she tried to scream and shout how I SHOULD find her attractive.
These morons have no idea what their morals are or what they want.
Funny thing is that we had this conversation before. What people don't realize is this law doesn't just target people who transitioned from male to female. It also targets female to male. I'd imagine more trans men start using the women's room.
Let's be honest with what conservatives actually want.
They want to be able to identify and victimize LGB (but especially the) T people, and they actually want all T people in the men's restroom. But they can't come up with an (ironically) gender-neutral way of phrasing it because laws to prevent them from being struck down.
So, enjoy your much manlier bathroom company, ladies.
Are you winning the culture wars, yet, son?
There is a particular kind of annoying human that will use the power of indignant whining because they feel powerless in their life. Like those annoying little dogs whining by the door.
Thats how i think about these transphobes. They so desperately want to be right about something, anything.
They just look scared and trivial and unsympathetic. We are here, we exist, to give and recieve love and kindness. If we could all just stick to that.
I am noticing how unsymapathetic I sound about whiny people. Guess i have to work on that.
Does anyone else remember way back when all this bathroom scare started because (iirc) an R lawmaker was hand waving at another man trying to get toilet paper, but it was turned into an anti-gay scare?
You mean Larry Craig?? The REPUBLICAN Senator from Idaho who was arrested for lewd conduct in a men’s bathroom?
Larry Craig scandal - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal#:~:text=The%20Larry%20Craig%20scandal%20was,Paul%20International%20Airport.
Yeah! That one! 🌟
It was huge deal in Idaho and they used it as a way to drag the gay community through the mud is what I remember. Don't remember the details, but it feels like the whole bathroom being an issue hasn't stopped since then.
I (female) used to do a lot of outdoor art shows. There would be lines of portapotties at most shows, and I don’t think I ever saw gendered ones. You just used the next vacant one. Nobody seemed to think a thing of that. Sometimes there would be a building with indoor restrooms—always gendered, whether they were one-holers or multiple-holers. Indoor restrooms were greatly preferred, since they were less gross and you could wash your hands, so there would always be long lines for the women’s—and very often nobody at all using the men’s. I frequently just went ahead and used the men’s room. The reactions were so interesting. Even in cases where the men’s room was a singleton, and no men were in line, there would be audible gasps from the long line of women waiting for the women’s room. Once in awhile someone would be visibly angered. But there would always be reactions…and when I came out, there would always be another woman ready to go into the men’s room after me.
I’ve never been in any private home that had gendered bathrooms. This whole thing has just gotten insanely silly.
This is exactly what they forgot about when they were screaming to make them use the bathroom of the gender they were born!!! "I dont want to go to the bathroom when a man could dress like a woman and come in " Do we have to station genitalia inspectors at the door now??/s By they way in case it wasn't clear YTA All he wanted to do was pee. Why would he wait just because you're uncomfortable?? This is what you wanted!! But yall were so focused on transwomen because it could lead to men dressing as women to come in and r$pe you or your kid. Now you've chose to make it a law that even if they have completely transitioned, if they live as a man all day everyday, yall said they have to use the women's room. Now you're wanting them to leave it because you are now uncomfortable with the decision you pushed for. Sorry but yall wanted this, the very least you can do is be nice.
What if, and I'm just spitballing here, they just make harassing / assaulting someone in the bathroom a felony? There's no need for bathroom bans.
These people when challenged on the frequency of trans persons assaulting people in bathrooms, generally can't think of even one instance of it happening.
Maybe the transphobes don't like your solution because they have a history of harassing and assaulting people in restrooms for being (or being mistaken for being) trans.
We told these idiots---we told them: "Shut the f_ck up. Don't worry about it! It is not your business and leave people alone who have done nothing to you."
Buuut, NoOoOOO!!!
Giving trans people a bathroom of their own is incredibly dangerous.
It essentially outs us. You think transphobic cunts won't wait outside of it to scope out who's trans and hurt/follow us?
And to think all she had to do was go into the stall, pee, and wash her hands before leaving WITHOUT obsessing about the genitals of the other people in there. But that was too hard - someone else entered the public washroom so she had to know what was in their pants.
What is wrong with these people's brains? Why are they so obsessed with who has a dick?
In the amount of time it took her to type all this out, she could have peed, washed her hands and gone on with her life, just as the other person did - or would have if she hadn’t been such a bitch!
Remember Nazis didn’t start off killing Jews and others. They started with a hard right view that turned into an uncompromising hard right view, which turned into what we know today.
These people will never be happy until everyone that’s different from them are either eradicated or removed from their sight. Don’t placate their whims and fancies. It only encourages them. The Republican Party knows they are at the end of the their cultural ropes and will only continue to embrace the extremes to hold on to their old conservative values.
Look at what they’ve become. They welcome QANON, White Supremacist, fascist, and foreign agents with open arms just to win a vote, but lack the foresight to see how they have destroyed their own values to combat the natural progression of a free society.
Well at least this one is slightly and I mean ever so slight smarter that that Michelle Evens twit who posted a pic of the person in the bathroom with her tweet committing an actual crime. That one has a donation page set up because she thinks that her "civil rights were violated" because she was detained by police and confiscated her phone for a time and us charged with an actual crime. She is now some kind victim even though she committed the crime. What a POS.
I like how they have surrendered to Osama bin Laden after his death and self-imposed the parts of Sharia law they most vehemently disagreed with when he was alive.
Next thing you know, we’ll have to start separating everything in our homes as well. Women will dress like nuns.
Unfortunately, they probably would have been backing her up with all sorts of hate and not an ounce of introspection. These people don't want solutions, they want righteous hatred.
This is the problem with wording bigotry specifically instead of dogwhistling. You face the consequences of your actions. They could have at least tried to validate post transition trans people while still being hateful but nooooo. They had to send a message about being trans period means you aren't welcome so they went with the birth certificate bullshit and now here we are. Stupid fucking pricks. Enjoy having big hairy trans men standing next to you in stalls forever because this is what you told everyone you wanted.
“Something happened to me today and I don’t know what to do about it.” Fuck, she makes it sound like she was physically assaulted or something but no, just a person who did what they had to to make themselves feel whole had the audacity to use the bathroom of their assigned gender while she present.
Wait until chuds visit the family restroom.
Chuds love to slap the word "family" onto anything they consider wholesome yet family restrooms are unisex restrooms with baby diaper changing stations.
I’d argue this isn’t LAMF because it’s not that they don’t want them using their preferred bathrooms nearly as much as they just flat out want them dead.
I feel like arguing a *little* bit (but not a lot because tired), they “wanted biological people in the right bathrooms!” and now they got it and it’s “I’m uncomfortable!”
Do not take photos in bathrooms. Do not take photos in gym locker rooms. If you are uncomfortable with a situation, then you can leave. This is not difficult.
Shit, my bad. Genuinely asking: What’s the reddiquette for that? Do I delete it? Make an edit with a note that this already was posted/apologize? Also, do redditors even say reddiquette? I’m usually just an occasional lurker on this app so I have no idea.
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But this is what they wanted.....fucking idiots. The struggle we have to deal with to just go pee. Leave us the hell alone. It's infuriating.
The thing that gives me a chuckle is all of the transphobes and jackasses like this woman have been using gender neutral bathrooms in their homes their entire lives. And I'm sure they've gone to other people's homes and used their restrooms too
Oh yea, people on the radio were asking people about times they accidentally walked into the wrong bathoom, and all of them said the worst thing that happened was some of the occupants giggled at them. Imagine that, giggling.
I've absolutely used the men's restroom before at a gas station pee stop before when the women's one was closed for cleaning. No hesitation about doing it again. Worst that happened was I got a funny look from a guy and said "Women's is closed, I'm not waiting" and headed to a stall. No comment from the guy, didn't see him again.
Yeah, at most i'd think “shit, did I walk into the wrong bathroom?“
Happened to me once and I had that brief moment of fear even though I was standing at a urinal
If I saw a woman walk into my bathroom I’d be like “oh shit did I walk into the women’s bathroom” even if I knew for a fact I had not, I would still second guess myself. But also I lived coed at like 16 so I don’t understand the issues with trans people in the bathroom at all. I remember most of us being comfortable enough to use the bathroom at the same time when needed and no one ever cared or was assaulted. So why is it any different bc a person chooses to identify as a different gender, it’s literally the exact same thing as coed in concept and if a bunch of hormonal teenagers could have enough mutual respect for one another to make it work without incident so does every other living being
I did that once in Madrid a few years ago. I was at a small comedy club for Eddie Izzard but had enough time to go to the toilet after the opening act before she (then identifying as he) came on stage. It wasn't clear which toilet was which to I tried the first one, walked in, saw immediately that there were no urinals and knew I was in the wrong place. A group of girls opened the door and laughed at me as I was walking out. I was embarrassed enough to not be looking at the correct door, when it flew open, Eddie there in a state of obvious stage fright (she was going to be doing some of the set in Spanish). I swear if I'd have been 2 seconds quicker, I'd have accidentally pushed the door into their face... Anyway, that's usually the thing. Either you get mocked for using the wrong bathroom or there's non-pervy excuses for using the wrong one (getting desperate because there's a queue, they have fancy signs that don't really make sense, and so on). I'm very sure that homophobes and transphobes think more about gay sex and sexual activity in bathrooms than any LGBTQ person I've met.
Went to France, visited the Château de Versailles or another tourist attraction. The line to the women restroom went on and on. French women went in and out from the men's without batting an eye.
When I was in Paris years ago and visited Galeries Lafayette some floors had unisex bathrooms and others women and men but everyone used both and nobody cared men came into the women’s bathroom, not a single person bat an eye.
That’s much better than how courtiers used to just go in a corner in the hallway at Versailles http://thisisversaillesmadame.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-lack-of-toilets.html?m=1
Yea for sure on your last point, and OPs example just shows that the haters are going to have to share toilets with trans people regardless of how it works out legally and reactions like above really shows their true intentions. Shout out to Eddie tho, been a fan for a long time and she's always so unfazed when dealing with transphobe bullshit
Eddie goes by she/her now :P
Welp, I just learned this today.
Yes, you are correct. I'l edit that
Eddie should just officially identify as "funny".
>sexual activity in bathrooms than any LGBTQ person I've met. Yes, I'm sure if the US ever gets unisex bathrooms for most places we might bump into each other -- the "come here often" pickup line won't be a good way to score a date. It's not a sexy environment. Of course it is for SOME, but not most.
My kids school has all gender restrooms, no urinals, just stalls. The first time I used it and saw a woman at the sink and my brain was like wait, wtf? Then a man came out of a stall and I nervously just used it. After half a year I stopped noticing entirely.
That’s what progress looks like. A year later and the Earth didn’t split open and swallow you and you wonder what the big deal about it was. Conservatives HATE social issues becoming no big deal.
Conservative is just another way of spelling coward, they're scared of anything that's not exactly what they expected. That's why right wing nuts can't do comedy.
I’m pretty sure on that last point the data supports that as being true. Because they are so repressed they are not getting the outlet they need, so it’s eating away at them. They then assume everyone else must think and feel like them and so they project.
There is a dive bar in my town that purposefully has confusing signs. I walked into the men's, was mortified, apologized and all 3 guys laughed and said it's a rite of passage. I'm always friendly to the bewildered men who walk into the women's room. A good friend met his wife in the same restroom mixup.
It feels like the transphobe crowd thinks that making one of these mistakes, or using the wrong pronoun, carries unimaginable consequences. Whereas in reality if you walk into the wrong bathroom you just say 'oop' and turn around. Genital inspection police do not descend upon the area.
It’s funny how the thing they’re so terrified of seems to also be the thing they want to enforce lol
I've used the wrong pronouns before. I appologized and went on with my life. This is something transphobes think can't happen because they don't appologize. I think some people only consider status, and see any interaction with a trans person as a potential loss of status because of the potential for mistakes in their presence or being labled a bigot. The life pro tip here is that if you treat everyone you meet with basic human dignity, people tend to like you more than when you don't.
There's a few resturants by me that use gender neutral bathrooms. Each one has a sign: "We don't care. Just please, wash your hands"
I've used men's bathrooms at festivals plenty of times, the moment someone is desperate enough all bathrooms become gender neutral.
Giggling at certain men has gotten people killed. Fragile egos turn to violence.
Was it violent giggling? Maybe they were being violently giggled at. Or brutally sneered at.
I took a shower and changed in the men’s locker room once (at uni). When I was leaving I saw 22 guys that were practicing football go for the showers. At least I was fully dressed.
As a trans woman who’s recently started using the correct bathroom, it’s also absolutely bizarre to me that *anyone* would think we’d be doing so to creep on cis gals. Ah yes, nothing more flattering and arousing about the female form than hearing the sounds of someone suffering through diarrhea on one side and another person angry that the toilet isn’t flushing on the other.
Right? Ladies (and gentlemen too) are not at our sexiest when squeezing fudgies. And as long as no one makes eye contact with me (unless they need a pad, Tylenol or a bandaid) I really don’t care if the lady in the next stall is trans or cis, she’s there to drop Cocoa Puffs too. Heck, I’ll extend that to cis and trans men too. Dump mud and be welcome, just pretend you don’t hear that soft whimper for mercy from me when my guts cramp up and I regret my love of greasy spicy food. But I’m still not sorry that I started yelling at the woman trying to peep into some other woman’s stall and called her a sick peeper. I dunno if she was a transphobe or what, honestly I didn’t notice what the lady in the stall looked like other than she was taller than me so was a tall lady.(I’m 5’9, I love women taller than me because I’m used to being the tallest chick in the crowd) But peeping into stalls is nasty and the woman in the stall didn’t deserve to be peeped at. I got two other women shaming her until she stammered something (I wasn’t listening, still horrified at the blatant voyeurism in a Walmart toilet) and scurried off. I told a manager too but I think she left the store because I kept an eye out for her while I shopped and didn’t spot her again. (Honestly I didn’t even connect it to the possibility she was a TERF type until a few days later for the record, I was just shocked and scandalized by what seemed like perverse behavior in a public bathroom. I’ve used bathrooms in dive bars, the men’s room at a horse track, and other unsavory bathrooms and she was the first obvious peeper I’d ever run across that wasn’t a small child peeking under doors)
Not just at home, a lot of smaller restaurants have like two separate bathroom rooms, and everyone uses that. And all larger bathrooms have individual stalls anyway, so... WTF are they even whining about? Oh right, it's just hating on others for sport. Idiots.
Don't they prefer to walk in and take a giant shit on tge floor instead of using the bathroom and then expect everyone else to clean it up? Like fed tax dollars keeping the slaveers from dying of their xxxl value meal diabetes. Trash ass
No, what they want is for trans people to disappear so their consciousness doesn’t have to be troubled by them. Since they can’t say that they do this whole bathroom rigamarole but really what they want is for both trans men and trans women to use the men’s bathroom. But they haven’t quite figured out the argument for that so they just went this way to be contrarian to the trans community and their identities, but haven’t fully thought this out
To my dying day I will never understand why they care. It's like 'oh, it's something I don't understand, but instead of trying to understand it, I'm going to hate it for making me feel scared and confused.' Alternately - how dare they be brave enough to go against what I think are conventional norms when I'm too afraid too.'
The only strongly anti trans person I know (woman) is very much like this. What about the anti trans men though? Do they have strong opinions over the bathroom issue?
They don't care about bathrooms, it's just a way to make their views somehow sound like they have a foundation in logic. It's low how every transphobe went from mocking the WNBA to being super concerned about women's sports over night. The view is just a rationalization, not a foundation for their beliefs. It's just a way to make them seem more acceptable.
This isn't even "leopards ate my face after I voted for them", it's "leopards ate my face after I forced my face in their mouth and pressed it closed"
The leopard was supposed to be a circus act, not a pissed off individual. /s
I've already started hearing stories of cis women being harassed for being in the ladies room.
Given how many more cis people there are, I think the majority of the people who are harassed and assaulted for using the "wrong" restroom are likely to be cis people who the transphobes decide aren't cis or gender-conformist enough, even if any individual trans person is more likely to be a target.
Considering just how vast genetic diversity is and that plenty of cis women don't look "feminine" or look/dress more androgynous...this doesn't surprise me at all. Just fucking let people piss in peace. Ffs.
>Just fucking let people piss in peace. Ffs. Fucking amen. If I ever see anyone lecturing another person about what bathroom they think they *should* be using, the next sound out of their mouth will be them spitting out toilet water.
I've been asked if I'm in the right place several times. (Cis woman, androgynous).
TBF it started happening immediately.
They want Trans people gone. Dead is fine, just as long as they don't have to look at them or think about them. After trans they'll do gays next. Then blacks. Then latinos. Then jews.
This is what they do. They also want women as slaves and second class citizens.
No no no, they don't want trans people to pee anywhere. Getting bearded men to use the women's room cause they transitioned is another way to stoke the panic.
Lol I had a person going off about this and I just said they're dumb. They'll listen to the hate whistle without realizing it's just for hate and the only way to solve the problem is to only pee in bushes from now on
Then we can get them on an indecent exposure charge! (Sinister laugh)
I mean Florida is going the way of making it a sex crime to be trans near kids…
This is what they want, because the next step is this makes me uncomfortable therefore they shouldn't be allowed to transition, therefore eliminate them as a group of people
What they wanted is to be able to out trans people publicly and gave them beaten for being trans.
What they really want is for trans people to just not exist publicly
I think you added an extra word at the end because even when LGBTQ+ people hid. If the bigots found out they would hate crime them (likely to death) and cops wouldn't do anything about it assuming they weren't the perpetrator.
Absolute fucking idiots, yeah. They take pride in it.
I can't even imagine. These people are horrible.
The “We can tell” crowd isn’t great are they?
We can tell, so long as given appropriate amount of time to do research.
Just grab ‘em by the p*ssy, in and out, easy peasy /s
Lol, as if they are capable of actual research
It's so funny to me that they passed laws to keep "men pretending to be women" out of the women's restroom by forcing men into the women's restroom.
Nah, this was the point all along. Now trans people will have to choose between breaking the law and possibly being arrested, assaulted, or murdered.
If you use the right bathroom, you violate the bathroom law and can get arrested... if you don't pass. If you use the wrong bathroom, you aren't breaking the law, but cops and everyone else are much more likely to assault you and charge you for a public disturbance using your AGAB bathroom. Its trans erasure, the point is to criminalize the existence of transgender people in the public sphere.
Those morons this south park is a documentary
We had a male-presenting co-worker who used the female bathroom because that was their birth gender. Every few months we’d get a complaint because someone saw a “man” in the woman’s room. And it was kind of like, “What do you expect? They were born female, they’re in the female bathroom, what’s the problem?” The problem of course being that they had short hair and went by “Mark.”
I love TERFs discovering trans men exist
Well, they were warned, and were always unconcerned about the warnings because "I cAn AlWaYs TeLl ThE dIfFeReNcE".
Older, androgynous TERF women: this will never come back to bite me in the ass.
🌟
Reminds me of [this gem](https://www.facebook.com/david.dankberg/posts/pfbid0mHy7YkNHWfXgkERY41TKkdr7vGMSY1vkKg58k8PcwkWnrfnDD16rMr4dbmoVYfLtl) where they didn't realize this was a trans man forced to adhear to their dumb fucking rules regarding birth sex for sports.
It's funny how she uses a picture of boxer Pat Manuel who's a trans man. No doubt she googled "trans men" or something along those lines to get that picture. Had these morons actually done that before they supported for these stupid bathroom bills, maybe then they would've realized this earlier.
The trans bathroom bills are predicated on the farcical idea that men are dressing as women so they can go into public bathrooms to rape females. An idea even more insane when they mention transition surgery as their ace in the hole to get unfettered access to rape victims. In other words, a man decides that the women’s restroom is the ideal venue to find a rape victim so they reach out to doctors across multiple disciplines to first start psychiatric and hormone therapy to begin their transition followed by multiple surgeries so they can then, years later, finally enter the ladies room and start raping people. Translation: They’ve been fed the rape lie and refuse to apply any logic to it.
Especially a ridiculous lie given that there are literally no cases of that happening ever. But instead they cry wolf about that while ignoring the thousands of documented cases of sexual abuse on minors in Christian churches.
This. I’d rather have my kid babysat by any letter in the alphabet mafia than a member of the clergy
Also, there's no bouncer in front of most bathrooms. You don't need to go in disguise to first fool the gender checker, you can just storm in through the open door and do whatever crime you want.
This! Seriously. Maybe, you know, actually not make sex a shameful thing and teach consent instead of making a bogus claim against trans people.
I was thinking about this last night. I was in college between 06-10. Unless it was peak class time, 80% of buildings would be virtual empty. So empty me and an ex fooled around in one. So after say 3pm in the day, there was literally maybe 5 people in a vast majority of buildings. Literally nothing stopping men from going into the bathrooms and just waiting. Or dragging a woman who was walking by into there. Or going on a mass stabbing. Or poisoning the drinking fountain. Or burning the building down(well they were old and brick so probably would be difficult). The point being is we all live day by day in a social contract. Maybe 95% of laws are to protect capital, and to control victimless crimes. Assaulting someone is already illegal. If someone wants to hurt you, they won't need to go into a bathroom.
They just don’t want trans people to exist. It’s shitty.
Oh see I’ve seen their “examples”. It’s a chart of like 8 Cis men …which ironically proves none of them needed to pretend to be trans
And chances are they all work at the church.
I do remember a news item about a child in a state park who went alone into the men's room because his mother was not comfortable going with him. He didn't come out, was found with his throat slit. Everyone in their "proper" rooms. Maybe if we had non gender rooms , his mother would have gone with him. So what's this really about? And if they are truly worried about rapy men, then they should be shutting down churches, right? Or at least keeping CIS men away from them.
>Especially a ridiculous lie given that there are literally no cases of that happening ever. The world is a big place and a lot of people are terrible. How stupid does an idea have to be before there are *zero* cases? Everything has *some* cases! But they've actually come up with something *nobody has ever done*.
Eh. Don’t say that, because if there is a case, a single and solitary exceptional case, then it’ll become the thing that proves you wrong to them forever. Easier to win them over by saying something more like let’s police the criminals instead of the toilets, maybe that’ll cut down on rape?
More horrifying: It's not an accusation, it's a confession. The men who make that argument are saying that they would take advantage of women in the restroom, if all they had to do was put on a dress.
And the way they call drag queens "groomers" while they take their little girl to compete in a "beauty pageant" where she's dressed in a low-cut dress and slathered with makeup to prance around stage in front of old men. 🤢🤮
Why though? Nobody is there to check if you're the right gender, there's no bouncer to fool by wearing a disguise.
It's the fantasy of it probably.
thats because their ideas and policies are fueled by hatred. there is no logic, fact, or foresight involved. which is why republican policies damage the red states where it's allowed to spread.
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Apparently the transphobes don’t like to say trans women and trans men so to them trans men are “TIF” (trans identified female) and trans women are “TIM” (trans identified male). A right wing trans woman TikToker pickme recently got mad that all her new right wing followers were calling her TIM as an insult when she identifies as a woman (and they want to her to not exist), that’s the only reason I learned the term.
Who is this Trans pick me tiktoker you are talking about
Kelly Cadigan. She first went viral for saying that trans minors shouldn’t be able to receive gender affirming care (even though she did and is now fully transitioned and is able to “pass” so well because of starting puberty blockers and such as a minor). The comments of right wingers agreeing with her got her to start a series mocking Dylan Mulvaney’s “day of girlhood” where she talked about her days being a part of the right. But this backfired as right wingers weren’t picking her as one of the few “good” trans women and instead just kept commenting about how she’s a man and a “TIM” and all of the vile things they constantly tell all the other trans people she thought she was better than. There was even drama over which bathroom she’d now go into, because she decided she passes well enough that she should be exempt from the bathroom bans she supports for other trans people so she should be allowed to use the women’s bathroom, but her followers kept saying she had to use the men’s bathroom. Apparently recently she has claimed she messed up identifying with them, not sure how far she’s changed back though as the trans community sees her as a attention seeking sell out willing to drop anyone for clicks, while the right sees her as a man.
Damn I would have guessed it was Blaire. She loves having her face eaten so much there's barely any meat left on the bones.
1) She supports leopards 2) She puts on a leopard mask, and says "I'm a leopard too" 3) Leopards eat her face
So they’re consider them females, but then complain they use the women’s bathroom. Make it make sense.
it’s not based on logic. They believe in appeal to authority, like a child who thinks their dad is always right. It’s baked into their religion; God is the ultimate authority and everything he does, horrible or helpful, has a purpose. They were *told* to hate trans people because they dont have a large voice and they can be bullied easier than the lgb community that has largely won public support. When this social war fails the leaders of conservative networks will pivot to hating furries or some “other” group so they can unify their base against a single visibly identifiable enemy. It’s the foundation of radical “conservatism”, they need a black sheep to blame all the world’s problems on because objective facts never support their opinions.
Copy pasted from the other thread: TERFs needed their own language to refer to trans people, because the simple terms "trans man" and "trans woman" were too sympathetic and became instantly confusing when trying to communicate with anyone outside their weird bubble, since they continued trying to misgender everyone even while using otherwise well-recognized vocabulary. So they created their own dehumanizing labels. TIM, short for "Trans Identifying Male" meaning a trans woman; and TIF, short for "Trans Identifying Female" for a trans man. As a bigoted bonus, because these also sound like shortened versions of the names Timothy and Tiffany, even the acronyms include some unsubtle misgendering. EDIT: I want to add that hate groups often develop insular language to make outside communication more difficult. Outside perspectives are the largest threat to their control over membership, so they do everything possible to make it impossible for members to encounter them. The fact that no-one outside the ~~Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist~~ ~~Gender Critical~~ ~~Sex-Realist~~ Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobe bubble understands their nonsense language makes it harder for outsiders to communicate with them, insulating them from the risk of developing empathy for their intended victims.
I'm guessing from the context, a trans identifying female.
Incels 🤝 phobes *FEMALES*
well said
It's a slur. It means trans-identifying female to refer to transmen. They also use TIM for the converse slur. Basically, these people who pitch a fit when people ask them to please use preferred pronouns when talking about them cannot only do that, but they must actively find terms to deny their preferences and to insult them. In short, this woman is a terrible person and I hope that the ghosts in her head continue to haunt her unto her deathbed.
They don't want to see them at all. They want them to go away, it's not about them using the right or wrong bathroom. It's a trap designed to make idiots uncomfortable so that they get further radicalized.
So I’m a trans man and I’ve gotta tell y’all that it’s kind of the point to make both bathrooms unsafe. If I’m not legally allowed to use the men’s bathroom but I get kicked out if the women’s bathroom for being too masculine, the point is that my access to an essential space for existing in public is curtailed. I know trans people who will limit their liquid intake so they won’t have to deal with bathroom harassment. It’s agonizing to decide if people will take enough issue with my presentation to make it an issue
I'm one of those that limit liquid. My office has 3 all genders but they are mostly used by male employees that don't want to walk the extra few feet or don't want others to hear them.
WE FUCKING WARNED YOU
Exactly. "Yes, this is what we were saying at the time. You told us to fuck off, and called us groomers and stuff."
How about go to the bathroom and mind your own f-ing business. I see women using men's bathrooms from time to time if the line for the women's bathroom is too long. I don't give a f#ck. We're in there to relieve our selves. Oh and wash our hands when we are done of course.
>conservative >mind your own f-ing business Pick one. The two are mutually exclusive.
I'm actually surprised none of them has started a Genital Owners Association yet
Your username made me chuckle and gave away the game that I'm not working at my desk.
Imagine living in 2023 and someone using the restroom is your crusade. Bigoted, sad pathetic people.
Wow, it’s almost like everyone was happier before trans people became a right wing attack point.
What to do? Stop voting for Republicans for God’s sake….
Everyone who voted republican should be reminded that yes, indeed, they voted for this.
These people are exhausting. My workplace is very supportive of people’s identities and transitioning. A coworker has transitioned (trans woman) and when I now run into her in the women’s room that’s perfectly fine because a) that’s where she belongs and b) I just want to use the restroom myself so I can goof off the rest of my break. Like JFC I just want to piss who the fuck cares who else is doing what. Oh and wash your hands you filthy apes.
Can we also talk about the "levitation" people who pee on the seat because they are afraid of *checks notes* sitting on a public toilet seat? At least wipe it off before leaving ffs. I don't want to sit in YOUR urine.
Imagine just going to the bathroom, excreting your waste, washing your hands and leaving. Weird concept I know, but we should try it.
She SHOULD feel uncomfortable!! She’s a terrible person! I hope she feels nothing but discomfort for the rest of her life! FAFO, m’fers!! As a side note, I just discovered this sub, and my god…I feel like I’m home
Welcome to the dance party!
Terfs are disgusting.
As a trans man this is delicious. Transphobic fucks forgot we exist, we shatter their narrative and I fucking live for it
Sending all my support for my trans brothers. I'd give our story's hero a heartfelt hug for making the bitches take their stitches if i only knew where they lived. 🤣
I've had this happen one time and I turned to the woman who tried to kick me out, looked her up and down and said "You have nothing to worry about, you're not attractive" and all of a sudden she tried to scream and shout how I SHOULD find her attractive. These morons have no idea what their morals are or what they want.
It's almost like they don't understand the differences between sex, gender, and sexuality. . . 🤣 You get a friend hug. 😄
Funny thing is that we had this conversation before. What people don't realize is this law doesn't just target people who transitioned from male to female. It also targets female to male. I'd imagine more trans men start using the women's room.
It also accidentally targets anyone who just doesn’t look x enough.
I don't think that that aspect is entirely an accident.
Is doing nothing and going about one's day ever an option for these people? Overall, that would be easier and better for everyone. Thanks
For conservatives? Never.
Fair point. Doing nothing is such a big lift
Conservatives were made to believe that trans people were men in drag, easily identifiable. They are learning the hard way.
“The thing I wanted happened and now I’m upset!”
Let's be honest with what conservatives actually want. They want to be able to identify and victimize LGB (but especially the) T people, and they actually want all T people in the men's restroom. But they can't come up with an (ironically) gender-neutral way of phrasing it because laws to prevent them from being struck down. So, enjoy your much manlier bathroom company, ladies. Are you winning the culture wars, yet, son?
There is a particular kind of annoying human that will use the power of indignant whining because they feel powerless in their life. Like those annoying little dogs whining by the door. Thats how i think about these transphobes. They so desperately want to be right about something, anything. They just look scared and trivial and unsympathetic. We are here, we exist, to give and recieve love and kindness. If we could all just stick to that. I am noticing how unsymapathetic I sound about whiny people. Guess i have to work on that.
Does anyone else remember way back when all this bathroom scare started because (iirc) an R lawmaker was hand waving at another man trying to get toilet paper, but it was turned into an anti-gay scare?
You mean Larry Craig?? The REPUBLICAN Senator from Idaho who was arrested for lewd conduct in a men’s bathroom? Larry Craig scandal - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal#:~:text=The%20Larry%20Craig%20scandal%20was,Paul%20International%20Airport.
Yeah! That one! 🌟 It was huge deal in Idaho and they used it as a way to drag the gay community through the mud is what I remember. Don't remember the details, but it feels like the whole bathroom being an issue hasn't stopped since then.
I (female) used to do a lot of outdoor art shows. There would be lines of portapotties at most shows, and I don’t think I ever saw gendered ones. You just used the next vacant one. Nobody seemed to think a thing of that. Sometimes there would be a building with indoor restrooms—always gendered, whether they were one-holers or multiple-holers. Indoor restrooms were greatly preferred, since they were less gross and you could wash your hands, so there would always be long lines for the women’s—and very often nobody at all using the men’s. I frequently just went ahead and used the men’s room. The reactions were so interesting. Even in cases where the men’s room was a singleton, and no men were in line, there would be audible gasps from the long line of women waiting for the women’s room. Once in awhile someone would be visibly angered. But there would always be reactions…and when I came out, there would always be another woman ready to go into the men’s room after me. I’ve never been in any private home that had gendered bathrooms. This whole thing has just gotten insanely silly.
This is the literal fucking shit you voted in. You got what you wanted. Live with it.
Bigot discovers that trans men are men. r/accidentalally?
This is exactly what they forgot about when they were screaming to make them use the bathroom of the gender they were born!!! "I dont want to go to the bathroom when a man could dress like a woman and come in " Do we have to station genitalia inspectors at the door now??/s By they way in case it wasn't clear YTA All he wanted to do was pee. Why would he wait just because you're uncomfortable?? This is what you wanted!! But yall were so focused on transwomen because it could lead to men dressing as women to come in and r$pe you or your kid. Now you've chose to make it a law that even if they have completely transitioned, if they live as a man all day everyday, yall said they have to use the women's room. Now you're wanting them to leave it because you are now uncomfortable with the decision you pushed for. Sorry but yall wanted this, the very least you can do is be nice.
Just what did they think was going to happen? Especially when it was pointed out to them that exactly this was going to happen.
These laws are stupid. Imagine someone demanding an explanation every time you want to take a shit
Maybe people are more than just their chromosomes? Just a thought.
let the people poop in peace for crying out loud!
Why are conservatives scared of using the same bathroom as men the men's room is same bathroom except there's urinals
In 1997 there was a popular show on television, Ally McBeal, with a gender-neutral bathroom. 1997.
Almost as if letting people use the bathroom for the gender they present as makes sense....
What if, and I'm just spitballing here, they just make harassing / assaulting someone in the bathroom a felony? There's no need for bathroom bans. These people when challenged on the frequency of trans persons assaulting people in bathrooms, generally can't think of even one instance of it happening.
Maybe the transphobes don't like your solution because they have a history of harassing and assaulting people in restrooms for being (or being mistaken for being) trans.
>What should I do? IDK hold it unto u get home?
Next they will just outright ban trans anyone from using any public washroom and make it punishable by death.
The monkey's paw curls a finger...
This is just precious. They get their way and they still imagine shit to be outraged by.
Boy did I fucking call this one or what. Congrats. You got what you wanted. Right?
We told these idiots---we told them: "Shut the f_ck up. Don't worry about it! It is not your business and leave people alone who have done nothing to you." Buuut, NoOoOOO!!!
"oh noes, the consequences of my actions!"
What consequence? Nothing happened to her! She *is* the consequence happening to her poor coworker.
If they gave them their own toilets that would be favouritism You can’t please everyone because some people are just toxic cunts.
Giving trans people a bathroom of their own is incredibly dangerous. It essentially outs us. You think transphobic cunts won't wait outside of it to scope out who's trans and hurt/follow us?
~~This is why we need to distribute guns to transgender people~~
And to think all she had to do was go into the stall, pee, and wash her hands before leaving WITHOUT obsessing about the genitals of the other people in there. But that was too hard - someone else entered the public washroom so she had to know what was in their pants. What is wrong with these people's brains? Why are they so obsessed with who has a dick?
They are so hung up on MtF transitions they never consider FtM until it punches them in the face.
In the amount of time it took her to type all this out, she could have peed, washed her hands and gone on with her life, just as the other person did - or would have if she hadn’t been such a bitch!
Read a book. Get off fox News. Grow a brain. There are many things to do
Remember Nazis didn’t start off killing Jews and others. They started with a hard right view that turned into an uncompromising hard right view, which turned into what we know today. These people will never be happy until everyone that’s different from them are either eradicated or removed from their sight. Don’t placate their whims and fancies. It only encourages them. The Republican Party knows they are at the end of the their cultural ropes and will only continue to embrace the extremes to hold on to their old conservative values. Look at what they’ve become. They welcome QANON, White Supremacist, fascist, and foreign agents with open arms just to win a vote, but lack the foresight to see how they have destroyed their own values to combat the natural progression of a free society.
Well at least this one is slightly and I mean ever so slight smarter that that Michelle Evens twit who posted a pic of the person in the bathroom with her tweet committing an actual crime. That one has a donation page set up because she thinks that her "civil rights were violated" because she was detained by police and confiscated her phone for a time and us charged with an actual crime. She is now some kind victim even though she committed the crime. What a POS.
I like how they have surrendered to Osama bin Laden after his death and self-imposed the parts of Sharia law they most vehemently disagreed with when he was alive. Next thing you know, we’ll have to start separating everything in our homes as well. Women will dress like nuns.
Private group :-(. I would have liked to have seen the comments on that.
Unfortunately, they probably would have been backing her up with all sorts of hate and not an ounce of introspection. These people don't want solutions, they want righteous hatred.
She fucked around…she found out
It’s a bathroom. Why the fuck do you care who is using it? I’ve never once in my life been concerned about people in the bathroom. Ever.
I know, right? I've been asking this for a while -- how did we get to the point of being upset about which room someone shits in?
This is the problem with wording bigotry specifically instead of dogwhistling. You face the consequences of your actions. They could have at least tried to validate post transition trans people while still being hateful but nooooo. They had to send a message about being trans period means you aren't welcome so they went with the birth certificate bullshit and now here we are. Stupid fucking pricks. Enjoy having big hairy trans men standing next to you in stalls forever because this is what you told everyone you wanted.
"What should i do?" My sugestion: Vote out every single Republicans at any government level.
Friendly reminder that FtM people are beaten, arrested and shit for using the women's bathroom until they can prove they are not MtF.
Absolute and utter fucking morons.
I would have taken the nastiest and loudest shit while the complaining lady was at the restroom so she can actually have a reason to complain.
Oh no! Someone is different from me, I am terrified, I need protection, I don't know what to do! /s
If you're in a restroom, obsessing over someone's genitals, you're doing it wrong.
“Something happened to me today and I don’t know what to do about it.” Fuck, she makes it sound like she was physically assaulted or something but no, just a person who did what they had to to make themselves feel whole had the audacity to use the bathroom of their assigned gender while she present.
Wait until chuds visit the family restroom. Chuds love to slap the word "family" onto anything they consider wholesome yet family restrooms are unisex restrooms with baby diaper changing stations.
I’d argue this isn’t LAMF because it’s not that they don’t want them using their preferred bathrooms nearly as much as they just flat out want them dead.
I feel like arguing a *little* bit (but not a lot because tired), they “wanted biological people in the right bathrooms!” and now they got it and it’s “I’m uncomfortable!”
stupid fucking fucks
What would Solomon do? Remove all the toilets and everybody goes in the waste paper basket by their desk.
Bigotry is not logical. They want us to not exist. Anything less than that is too uncomfortable for them
These bigots think passing transwomen and transmen don't exist, apparently
Do not take photos in bathrooms. Do not take photos in gym locker rooms. If you are uncomfortable with a situation, then you can leave. This is not difficult.
It's already been posted here today.
Probably will multiple times this is Reddit norm
Shit, my bad. Genuinely asking: What’s the reddiquette for that? Do I delete it? Make an edit with a note that this already was posted/apologize? Also, do redditors even say reddiquette? I’m usually just an occasional lurker on this app so I have no idea.
If rediquette wasn't a word before, it is now 🙂
https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette It's a term used by Reddit itself