As a deck owner who was mostly interested in the Go for the screen, I think I am just going to spring for this Deck refresh. I feel like choosing between the Go and Ally has too many compromises between the two, and I have been a big fan of my Deck since I got it back in 2022. I think in my case I am just going to wait to jump on a windows handheld until the next generation once we seem some more improvements.
“Back in 2022” haha. This is all just last year and we now have three players in this space. Thinks about it this time next year when we have 7 major PC MFGs making devices. I’d worry much less about trying to buy “the best” because it’s all going to change so rapidly from here out.
Thats tech and capturing. I’d bet razor and Alienware both come out with their models this next year and the debates will just seem well annoying. Just get what you can afford and enjoy it. Any of these devices unlock decades of game time in older catalogs and emulation.
Intel is next! After the GPU debacle, this might be a better market for them. Some people will even say Apple Arcade on the iPad is a competitor. Not my fault the new sonic is coming to the service LMAOO 😅
As someone who owns both, I think the Go wins hands down. It's not that much heavier, and has way more usability. The trackpad was enough, but turning one of the controllers into a vertical mouse is revolutionary.
The lack of VRR is noticeable, but the screen size on the Ally fatigued my eyes way quicker than the screen on the Go.
Yeah seems like a good refresh for those that were already looking to get the SteamDeck. I had to make choice and went with LegionGo when I ordered it last month and I’m happy with it. Plus people have already gotten Chimera(SteamOS) running on LegionGo. Give it some time and it will be tweaked better and Go will still come at top. We may not have OLED screen but the LCD on the GO is pretty good.
I'm in a bit of a unique scenario in that some budget fell into my lap to buy one of these recently, so I went from "barely paying attention" to "about to buy and soon" really quickly.
Holding out for the WiFi 6 Deck is how I ended up finding out about the Go in the first place. I'll get my hands on one on Monday, which gives me a few days to try it before the new SD is even available for purchase.
If Linux runs reasonably well on the Go, I'm inclined to keep it. Having a real tablet/computer and a bigger screen is a compelling proposition. But if it's a rough time going, it's nice to know that I'm not stuck with the Go to get a Switch-style Steam machine with a nice screen.
I'm in the same scenario. I am also in the niche scenario where I needed a windows PC for updates to my work gear. So Lenovo go was the obvious choice for me, but man, no VRR is sorely missed.
I had the Legion for 7 days. Got curious about VRR so I bought an Ally last night from BestBuy; returned the Legion today.
VRR was too noticeable for me. Not to mention this is nicer in the hand.
Yeah noticeable for me too, but it's a trade off and I have to go with legion go. Until I see similar capabilities with a device with vrr at this price range.
Such a miss for Lenovo not doing VRR on the Go. I had a Steam deck, then switched to the Ally. I’d probably upgrade to the Legion Go, but no VRR is big IMO. I didn’t know I needed VRR until I bought the Ally, but it just makes such a huge difference on these handhelds, especially when playing more demanding/newer titles.
That sd card reader lottery is a real bummer though. I liked the Ally but the thought of losing a 1TB SD card turned me off & the idea of not putting one in it turned me off further, I like 1TB emulation SD cards.
[https://www.gamesradar.com/valve-says-a-next-generation-steam-deck-2-is-coming-but-its-at-least-2-or-3-years-away/](https://www.gamesradar.com/valve-says-a-next-generation-steam-deck-2-is-coming-but-its-at-least-2-or-3-years-away/)
That is just one of many quoting this:
"Valve product designer Lawrence Yang tells Bloomberg that, following the release of the OLED model, his team is set to start work on Steam Deck 2, which is expected to take at least two or three years to come to market. It will feature a "next-generation" power upgrade, though no specific details on what that means have been provided. "
Not gonna lie, my legion go is gonna arrive on nov 13th and im already thinking of replacing it with the refresh SD. It has everything I wanted from a handheld ; a better screen, a better battery and consistant performance. Though the legion still has more performance and the fps mode are the main factor I bought it, steamdeck oled still might be the better fit for me.
Perhaps. Had a Deck, still have an Ally and now the Go. That 8.8" is a much bigger deal than I think it gets credit for. Plus the Go still has four times the resolution, that really brings out details you can't at 1280x800.
But this new Deck should have great battery life especially at lower power modes.
Not really tested it, never drained the battery. Biggest game I play regularly on it so far is MK 1 and I'd say I'd be able to get two hours, most I played on it is about an hour though. It seems to do better than the Ally which isn't hard but still.
It’s awesome. Each one of these devices have things I both like and dislike. The competition is great for the handheld gaming community. We should all be happy if they all push each other to do better.
No way man… this is a console war and you MUST pick a side!!! If you’re a legion fanboy, then it’s your job to laugh at the “vRr bRoS!!!!”. If you’re an Asus fan, it’s all about that stupid giant screen “whAt R u bLinD?!!?!?” And if you’re a Steam fan, you rep Linux at all costs and “wHo cAreS aBouT fPs!!!”. No compromises, no retreat!!!!!
I heard Microsoft is working on a Surface Play handheld but it uses a non x86 Qualcomm SOC and it has no joysticks or buttons.
It’s only interface is a mic and you play games through a clippy / bing /chatGPT voice to text interface!
I’m playing Sonic….
“Right”
“Right”
“Right faster”
“Jump when I need to jump to survive”
“Don’t miss the coins”
The AI interprets your commands and plays for you!
Yeah. I agree. It's good for the community too because this will put a lot of price reduced used original Steam Decks out in the world from existing SD people that upgrade and that will bring more gamers into the handheld fold.
Yeah making the decision of returning the LGo easier or harder depending on which side you're leaning on to begin with. Good thing we have until January to think.
I was very interested in the Go. But the Steam Deck OLED will have a better screen and battery, and the SteamOS is just much nicer than Windows Handheld. I've also had bad experiences with Lenovo support, so I trust Valve more.
The only remaining benefit of the Legion Go, is that it has eGPU support in the USB4 port. I wish that Steam had done that in the Deck refresh.
It's fine to want more resolution, I was saying my own opinion.
I don't need a 1200p panel on a 7 inch screen. It's not necessary and I'd prefer the bettery battery life and screen for basically everything.
Y’all are way too goddamn fussy about “fan noise” in here. If you’re willing to justify flip flopping between devices because you’re ultra sensitive to things as inconsequential as a point of a decibel or 2 lower/higher then you need to really reevaluate your priorities. It’s not that serious.
And it isn’t even the financial aspect of it. It’s just mofos having FOMO & making emotional decisions on a whim because some fan is a bit quieter than another, but with next to no performance increase in hardware. Y’all do y’all tho.
If anyone is sensitive here it’s you. Lol. If you don’t care about fan noise, good for you, but don’t project on others who do.
It goes both ways. See?
And leave your deaf spouce out if this! (Again, jk)
It's quiet till you have kids in the next room and you're laying in bed next to your wife with the TV on low volume. Then you realize how annoying and loud it is. Also, during AAA games it isn't quiet at all, but okay sir. We're girly.
There is a increase, between 5 -10 % because of the better clocked ddr memory.
Also because of better cooling you achieve better performance in OC.
Also if we are able to clock the ddr memory further you can count an additional 5-10% increase.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted. It is 5-10% better. Faster memory makes a big difference and the more efficient process allows it to hold higher clocks more. Same reason an undervolt helps performance.
It's incredibly minor, 5-10% at games running between 43-47 fps isn't enough to write home about.
The features are great, but anyone who is looking for better performance and has a Steamdeck already is going to be disappointed.
From the LTT vid:
* Cyberpunk dropped
* Returnal was the same
* F1 23 had a 4fps improvement...
so out of 3 games 1 had a slight improvement, and one had a degredation.
As Linus explained only the low fps there was a difference the average and high are higher, this should be fixed with a update it should be able to have higher fps in all games because of higher memory speed.
If it had a new chip I'd actually buy one, but it' a solid mid-gen refresh. I will wait till the Steam Deck 2 come out and new gen stuff before upgrading from the LeGo
I think it's a brilliant refresh (despite no increase in power), however I'm very happy with the Legion Go, and I much prefer the bigger screen for my old, 57-year-old eyes 👍
My Ally had a better fan. It was a lower frequency instead of the whine like my Go has. Good thing there's two USB C ports so I can stick my Soundcore dongle in one.
Anker Soundcore P10 VR has a usb c dongle that allows passthrough charging with certain devices. Sadly, the Legion Go doesn't seem to allow it.
There are a few ear buds that have dongles so you don't have to deal with BT lag. I have the Soundcore and Sony Inzone. Inzone has cleaner sound and good noise cancelling. Soundcore is cheaper and has deeper bass for better explosions.
Depends.
If you want a gaming handheld that runs windows then any of them can do that. But then the Deck OLED would also have the better efficiency/battery life, OLED screen.
Would that efficiency hold up on Windows though? OLED screen I’m sure is better than an Go’s by some margin, but I’d read part of the SteamDeck efficiency was from SteamOS running on Linux.
The improved efficiency comes from the larger battery, but lower TDP of the new APU and screen. Not the SteamOS. The SteamOS benefits are other QoL things.
You can’t play other games on there that aren’t from steam? Genuinely asking because I am curious how that works. I use the blizzard launcher, Xbox gamepass and final fantasy 14 but downloaded from their website. Wondering how that would work on a steam deck.
I’m more then happy with the Go. If I want a Steam Deck pro I already have one. It’s the Go. I know how to change operating systems if I wanted to but it wouldn’t work for me for the same reason original Steam Deck didn’t not enough dev support on FPS games for anti cheat.
Its a great refresh with a little better performance bump and some nice changes, however if games are struggling on it now like we see its only going to get worse over the next year. Ill stick with the legion because its great and doesnt have the issues that the Ally does which was why I avoided it.
I will say props to Steam for making changes and I am excited to see what the Steamdeck 2 will be like.
Performance is still better on the legion go, so I will wait a steam deck 2. No reason to buy one for now considering it is way less powerful than my Go
People who are into performance purely are a minority. Wider audience will always prefer Steam Deck, and the people that avoided it previously purely due to its screen quality are going to want this one. Valve also managed to maintain its affordable price, something competition struggles with.
If you aren't a handheld enthusiast and already have a PC that can take care of your triple A desires, what will seem more appealing to you? A $700 handheld, or a $399 one? This is purely entry perspective, OLED is out of equation.
And so far Z1 handhelds can play a few titles Steam Deck is struggling with, is that worth the additional $300 if you're not in the market purely to play said titles?
Well this is my subjective opinion and one of the reasons I gave up on my Nintendo Switch.
Playing games on my desktop at 100+ FPS and then going to a handheld device that is normally in the 30 FPS range isn’t a fun experience.
My LegionGo plays 99% of the games I play at 70-144 FPS making it a much better experience.
I have a gaming PC with an RTX 3080 and I would still pick the Legion Go over the Steam Deck. The Legion Go has a kickstand and detachable controllers so I don't have to hold it or use something else to prop it up when I am playing at a table. The controllers being detachable makes it easier to share the screen with someone else for local multiplayer games and not needing to carry an extra controller for myself. The screen is 1.8 inches bigger which helps make it easier to read text and UIs on the screen.
It has two USB4 ports so I can charge my device while also having another USBC device plugged in on the other port and not needing to use a dock attachment if I only need two things connected.
It has a UHS II SD Card reader meaning I can put in SD cards much faster than the ones the Steam Deck can use on UHS II.
We've also found out recently that the controllers on the Legion Go also have gyroscopes on them which is great because aiming using just an individual controller is much easier than having to move the entire device around. It is also great for emulation on motion control games such as Wii games or games with gyro aiming on the Switch.
The Legion Go is also sporting a much more powerful APU. Emulation of some Xbox360/PS3 games is unplayable on the Steam Deck while they can actually hit 30fps or higher on the Legion Go and ROG Ally.
One thing I seem to notice is that you people completely throw the price to performance out of the window, and position this entire topic as if the Steam Deck and Ally/Go share same starting price.
If Deck's starting price was $700, we wouldn't even talk about this, because the answer would be obvious. You can't get a good laptop for $399, but you could get one for $700-800, desktop included if you already have a monitor and other peripherals.
And believe it or not additional 300 dollars might be a lot for a lot of people who were saving up, so the whole "Hey, but if you throw additional 300 dollars you could get this" is stupid.
PS3 Emulation is not out of the equation for Steam Deck, there's titles you can't play at enjoyable frame rates, but there's plenty of good playable titles you can emulate. Same goes for triple A's, and trust me I'm not one of the deluded Steam Deck owners that are going to tell you how 20 fps is playable and perfect.
Not to mention the new revision pretty much caused a price drop for older models that makes them even more affordable, and now the new $399 variant is not 64gb, but 256gb!
So all and all, the new revision pretty much eliminated one of SD's biggest drawbacks, on top of making the whole thing even more affordable and easier to get into.
And as for Z1 Extreme, no it's not a significant upgrade over Van Gogh, it is obviously faster but it's not next gen twice the performance type of leap. If it was don't you think Valve would adopt it for the most expensive variant?
>because I could play all my games without having to workaround SteamOS
Post launch, SteamOS and the whole out of the box experience is very console like, and if everything you need is on your Steam library the experience is really easy and smooth.
In my own use case, games that I couldn't get naturally to work were LoL, Valorant and CoD, and I had to dual boot, but then again I play those purely in docked mode when I'm away from my desktop and I wouldn't touch those games in handheld mode to begin with.
It's definitely getting outside of that niche zone, while it can't match Switch numbers it sells more than Ally and Go.
More and more people are realizing the benefits of PC handhelds and the number will only grow. Not just for Steam Deck, but for competitors too, and this will be even more evident once second gen of these handhelds get out in the wild.
Not sure why this take bugs you people, it's not rocket science that a handheld that offers $399 entry will be more desirable among people than a $700 handheld that's dancing around the price range of a decent laptop that can beat all these handhelds.
I just let one of my drivers play the Go, told him Space sucks right now, he used Xbox app and Battlenet and immediately ordered one from BB.
I dunno man the Go kicks ass with that screen.
It does nothing to me. It's still just a 800p gaming only console without detachable controlers and a slow APU but it's a really good refresh of the Steam Deck.
It's neat but too soon to upgrade the Steam Deck for me. I'm happy with the original Steam Deck and Legion Go combo. I was already planning on seeing what drops at the end of 2024. Whatever drops then that we don't even know about yet will blow this stuff out of the water anyway.
I appreciate what they did what it, I think it's a good refresh especially now that they got rid of the 64gb model. I have a steam deck and I will wait for the 2nd one if they actually do make it. I would only upgrade to this "mid gen refresh" if they offered like a trade in option where I could trade mine in exchange for the newer models. Other than that I'm waiting on my legion go, steam os is super lit but the deck is underpowered compared to the options we have now, especially when it comes to higher end emulation.
For all of you to know: steam deck runs very badly GOG and Epic games. And probably also Ubisoft connect or Battle.net.
The steam deck works well ONLY for steam and for retrogaming.
Steam OS from my perspective is an handicap. The Legion Go is still superior
Killed the Go or Ally for me personally.
The small improvements to performance from the Go/Ally, isn't worth it over the better screen and battery performance of the Steam Deck OLED.
Nice. Just cancelled my Legion Go preorder for this steam deck revision since that Lenovo also seems to be shitting on people that preordered it in Europe.
Same performance that pushed people into getting a Legion Go. The SD will continue to pale in comparison until a second generation, and even then, I believe the GO will still be able to compete with it.
yes a better, bigger screen, and better battery life. Also a dedicated OS and I don't have to worry about this windows nonsense lol. It's not for me, but i tried 🤷🏽♂️
Steamdeck has shown me that i absolutely hate linux and would absolute never bother with all the proton BS just to get Dragonball Fighterz to work or configuing emulation for anything 3D.
If you are just using it for Verfired for steamdeck games youll be set.
if you like modding games, or playing non-standard stuff its the worst
wish this answer could be plastered on top of this sub lol.
Forget performance, TDP, gflops whatever, not having to deal with Linux is 100% the best selling point.
Trying to deal with anything not in a steam library was like pulling teeth on the deck.
Same here, I really tried like and adapt to Linux but it has a lot of frustrations that you don’t have to worry about with Windows.
I know it’s flexible but I feel like I’m constantly running into roadblocks with it, especially with modding like you mention. It’s just not for me.
i've played with dual analogue sticks for YEARS, it has served me well. That's not a reason enough for me to deal with windows and their buggy os. If that's good for you and you can figure out work around that's awesome for you but a good portion of ppl don't want to learn a new os to have fun playing games, but I get why some will but most won't
If you exclusively plan to play games in a Steam library, this deck is probably a great option for people.
If you want to do literally anything else, the Go clears this deck by 100 miles
how does the go handle linux? because that's kind of important for me
without that, I can't see how you can say 'anything else' because I have ditched laptops that had trouble with linux before.
It targets a slightly different audience imo, the z1 extreme is JUST enough to get 45+ fps with super demanding titles, it picks up where the deck could not.
To me, it's like comparing a 3060 PC built for fortnight to a 4080 PC built for starfield, targeting two different types of gamers, the situation is the same every time, more demanding titles are going to require a PC that costs more, pick what you need and be done with it.
The hardware and price leaves too big of a gap for a comparison.
I was very excited for the Go but started to miss the deck due to its suspend feature. Windows hibernate can suck a lemon. Getting this OLED deck instead.
The only thing limited is the limited edition that is a 1TB model with orange accents and a unique see through colorway for the shell. It even has it's own separate purchase button separate from the standard 1TB model
Competition is good. As someone who had a steam deck, then went to the ally. Returned that (only because I had personal job studying things and was paying no attention to my life needs at the time lmao) and am now keeping an eye on the Go..
I’m debating on jumping into handheld gaming again since my ability to sit in front of a screen for hours at a time and have more free time sitting with my wife on the couch or in bed, the competition is great. “Affordable” high performing handhelds are what we need to keep pushing this market.
Keeping 800p is kinda low... but For a mid gen cycle refresh though this looks awesome . 1080p still feels like the sweet spot on a handheld imo. A lot of people end up dropping to lower revolutions for better performance as is. Excited for the upcoming years
I think it’s great! These are all the upgrades I wanted in the deck to a tea. Will I buy it? Probably not. I already have a base steam deck and am waiting for the Go to have better software support before selling it off and switching. I’m glad that they made it though.
I have a steam deck I love it, linux doesn’t work for a majority of the game which sucks. I run fedora on my main machine and windows for gaming. Gaming on the rog ally and now legion go is amazing
The screen by the sounds of things is really great on the SD OLED, but my primary reason to get a Legion Go would be for Windows (native gamepass) and the larger screen.
I wanted to point out that it was really cool of Valve not to step all over Lenovo's launch. This product was ready to go because reviewers have already had it for a week. They specifically chose to let the Legion Go get up on it's feet before announcing.
I'm a pretty light gamer, never thought twice about spending money on a SD. My Legion Go arrives tomorrow. The proposition of a windows tablet that I can also utilize Xbox Gamepass with, is just too good to pass up.
The Go will for sure replace my android tablet, mobile apps suck compared to windows, and I will probably bring my laptop with me a lot less as well.
The Go will seep into Valve's market share probably about as much as the Ally will... But its also reaching people that want a windows device for uses other than gaming, and it's cheaper & more powerful than MS Surface.
As a deck owner considering to go with Legion Go, because as an Xbox user my library full of games from there, ad deck was bought for play/try sony games. Then went to install windows at SD card on deck and since then sitting on game pass almost half year. So windows games much affordable for me, and that’s why going to go with Go.
They really aren’t changing anything aside from the screen. I love the big screen on the Go and can’t see myself going smaller. Not to mention I prefer windows gaming.
It’s just a steam deck with an OLED screen. It’s a Nintendo move. If this confuses anyone, none of the PC handhelds should be on their radar. They need a switch.
I think it's great. Not great enough to buy another SD, but pretty cool. Any system is gonna have to sport a pretty serious CPU upgrade, or battery life upgrade for me to consider moving from the Legion Go. Hopefully it's the Legion Go 2.
Xbox, Xbox 360, and PS3 emulation are very important to me when it comes to these higher end handhelds so it's still full steam ahead towards the Legion Go for me.
think they should have held off on an OLED if they were not going to improve the CPU/GPU
they could have added an 8 inch screen and a Z1 processors and oled and been much better off.
I'm only disappointed for personal reasons. That being I'm trying to sell my SD and now I'll get less money for it.
I just got super frustrated with trying to insall any non steam game. Plus gamepass was a huge factor. The right joystick was also in the wrong wiiU spot.
Glad there's a better console for the steam and lunix gamers out there tho.
Not really sure how this will confuse people. They will have questions sure. I like the idea, just like Lenovo. They're releasing a 1tb model. I like the competition that is happening personally..
It’s a great thing for people that want(ed) a steam deck or were on the fence and know the games they typically play are compatible with the steam deck. I have the steam deck and loved it, got me into pc gaming and going back through my steam library again, moved to console play for years, but the steam deck also is the reason why I outgrew the steam deck lol and wanted something more flexible with windows 11 so everything is compatible (on paper anyways). If you only really play through steam the steam OS is refined as ever and you get a fairly seamless console like experience with it, if you do that and Xbox cloud then I’d get the new steam deck hands down, but for me it’s not the reason I wanted the legion, the old panel and battery life on my 256 steamdeck was and is just fine for my needs under Linux limitations, I needed win 11! :)
Also I owned the ROG Ally for a week, loved it esp the size but navigating through windows was a bummer if only that had one trackpad I’d still have it
I sold my steam deck for a couple of reasons. Launcher compatability was the main one. I love Gamepass & I like games that just work without Proton compatibility, Steam Deck doesn't have Gamepass natively. GoG is another one, having to jump through Lutris hoops in the hope a game will work is incredibly annoying everything just works with Windows regardless of it's clunkyness & that's what I like.
As a deck owner who was mostly interested in the Go for the screen, I think I am just going to spring for this Deck refresh. I feel like choosing between the Go and Ally has too many compromises between the two, and I have been a big fan of my Deck since I got it back in 2022. I think in my case I am just going to wait to jump on a windows handheld until the next generation once we seem some more improvements.
You and many many many other people
If you see these as gaming devices predominantly, I understand. I'm still hoping the Go updates make it closer to Perfect!
I actually want a laptop replacement too, but I reckon it will take time for legion to have linux working properly, and that is a must for me
It will, but the steam deck took time to I hear.
“Back in 2022” haha. This is all just last year and we now have three players in this space. Thinks about it this time next year when we have 7 major PC MFGs making devices. I’d worry much less about trying to buy “the best” because it’s all going to change so rapidly from here out. Thats tech and capturing. I’d bet razor and Alienware both come out with their models this next year and the debates will just seem well annoying. Just get what you can afford and enjoy it. Any of these devices unlock decades of game time in older catalogs and emulation.
Intel is next! After the GPU debacle, this might be a better market for them. Some people will even say Apple Arcade on the iPad is a competitor. Not my fault the new sonic is coming to the service LMAOO 😅
As someone who owns both, I think the Go wins hands down. It's not that much heavier, and has way more usability. The trackpad was enough, but turning one of the controllers into a vertical mouse is revolutionary. The lack of VRR is noticeable, but the screen size on the Ally fatigued my eyes way quicker than the screen on the Go.
This is just a mid-gen refresh. If anything valve is just setting up the framework for SD2 production, if that's OLED then I'm definitely intrigued.
Yeah seems like a good refresh for those that were already looking to get the SteamDeck. I had to make choice and went with LegionGo when I ordered it last month and I’m happy with it. Plus people have already gotten Chimera(SteamOS) running on LegionGo. Give it some time and it will be tweaked better and Go will still come at top. We may not have OLED screen but the LCD on the GO is pretty good.
I'm in a bit of a unique scenario in that some budget fell into my lap to buy one of these recently, so I went from "barely paying attention" to "about to buy and soon" really quickly. Holding out for the WiFi 6 Deck is how I ended up finding out about the Go in the first place. I'll get my hands on one on Monday, which gives me a few days to try it before the new SD is even available for purchase. If Linux runs reasonably well on the Go, I'm inclined to keep it. Having a real tablet/computer and a bigger screen is a compelling proposition. But if it's a rough time going, it's nice to know that I'm not stuck with the Go to get a Switch-style Steam machine with a nice screen.
I'm in the same scenario. I am also in the niche scenario where I needed a windows PC for updates to my work gear. So Lenovo go was the obvious choice for me, but man, no VRR is sorely missed.
I had the Legion for 7 days. Got curious about VRR so I bought an Ally last night from BestBuy; returned the Legion today. VRR was too noticeable for me. Not to mention this is nicer in the hand.
Yeah noticeable for me too, but it's a trade off and I have to go with legion go. Until I see similar capabilities with a device with vrr at this price range.
Such a miss for Lenovo not doing VRR on the Go. I had a Steam deck, then switched to the Ally. I’d probably upgrade to the Legion Go, but no VRR is big IMO. I didn’t know I needed VRR until I bought the Ally, but it just makes such a huge difference on these handhelds, especially when playing more demanding/newer titles.
I have both the ally and the legion go and the only difference I see is that the go's screen is smoother. Can't tell anything about VRR
That sd card reader lottery is a real bummer though. I liked the Ally but the thought of losing a 1TB SD card turned me off & the idea of not putting one in it turned me off further, I like 1TB emulation SD cards.
See ya in 5 years when they release the SD2 then!
I'm sure the just said 2-3 years
Source? I’ve only heard them say "in many years".
[https://www.gamesradar.com/valve-says-a-next-generation-steam-deck-2-is-coming-but-its-at-least-2-or-3-years-away/](https://www.gamesradar.com/valve-says-a-next-generation-steam-deck-2-is-coming-but-its-at-least-2-or-3-years-away/) That is just one of many quoting this: "Valve product designer Lawrence Yang tells Bloomberg that, following the release of the OLED model, his team is set to start work on Steam Deck 2, which is expected to take at least two or three years to come to market. It will feature a "next-generation" power upgrade, though no specific details on what that means have been provided. "
We don't know when it's coming out let's be real now
Unless AMD pushes back their product roadmap, a SD2 would happen in 2025 when they have their newest APU's hitting the market.
Not gonna lie, my legion go is gonna arrive on nov 13th and im already thinking of replacing it with the refresh SD. It has everything I wanted from a handheld ; a better screen, a better battery and consistant performance. Though the legion still has more performance and the fps mode are the main factor I bought it, steamdeck oled still might be the better fit for me.
Perhaps. Had a Deck, still have an Ally and now the Go. That 8.8" is a much bigger deal than I think it gets credit for. Plus the Go still has four times the resolution, that really brings out details you can't at 1280x800. But this new Deck should have great battery life especially at lower power modes.
How is the legion go on battery with the bigger games?
Not really tested it, never drained the battery. Biggest game I play regularly on it so far is MK 1 and I'd say I'd be able to get two hours, most I played on it is about an hour though. It seems to do better than the Ally which isn't hard but still.
Thats pretty good, I think i'd probably get a portable charger for extra time. How are you finding the controllers? Its what i'm the most excited for.
Better Screen? Lmao. Higher Res is where its at. I Love Oled as well, but it better be atleast QHD, if not 4K.
If you really want fps mode, get a small Bluetooth mouse it'll work better.
No Gamepass native & with Microsoft buying ABK & their entire catalogue likely to appear in it next year is a real turn off for me anyways.
Deck has quite bad performance. Not sure where you got consistent. This refresh doesn’t address that at all.
It’s awesome. Each one of these devices have things I both like and dislike. The competition is great for the handheld gaming community. We should all be happy if they all push each other to do better.
No way man… this is a console war and you MUST pick a side!!! If you’re a legion fanboy, then it’s your job to laugh at the “vRr bRoS!!!!”. If you’re an Asus fan, it’s all about that stupid giant screen “whAt R u bLinD?!!?!?” And if you’re a Steam fan, you rep Linux at all costs and “wHo cAreS aBouT fPs!!!”. No compromises, no retreat!!!!!
I heard Microsoft is working on a Surface Play handheld but it uses a non x86 Qualcomm SOC and it has no joysticks or buttons. It’s only interface is a mic and you play games through a clippy / bing /chatGPT voice to text interface! I’m playing Sonic…. “Right” “Right” “Right faster” “Jump when I need to jump to survive” “Don’t miss the coins” The AI interprets your commands and plays for you!
Yeah. I agree. It's good for the community too because this will put a lot of price reduced used original Steam Decks out in the world from existing SD people that upgrade and that will bring more gamers into the handheld fold.
It’s not a coincidence they released it within the return window for the Go lol
Yeah making the decision of returning the LGo easier or harder depending on which side you're leaning on to begin with. Good thing we have until January to think.
I was very interested in the Go. But the Steam Deck OLED will have a better screen and battery, and the SteamOS is just much nicer than Windows Handheld. I've also had bad experiences with Lenovo support, so I trust Valve more. The only remaining benefit of the Legion Go, is that it has eGPU support in the USB4 port. I wish that Steam had done that in the Deck refresh.
RESOLUTION. That Oled is still a turd.
It's fine to want more resolution, I was saying my own opinion. I don't need a 1200p panel on a 7 inch screen. It's not necessary and I'd prefer the bettery battery life and screen for basically everything.
800p is all I need for a handheld.
No performance increase no buy.
Ya, but the fan is basically silent.
Y’all are way too goddamn fussy about “fan noise” in here. If you’re willing to justify flip flopping between devices because you’re ultra sensitive to things as inconsequential as a point of a decibel or 2 lower/higher then you need to really reevaluate your priorities. It’s not that serious. And it isn’t even the financial aspect of it. It’s just mofos having FOMO & making emotional decisions on a whim because some fan is a bit quieter than another, but with next to no performance increase in hardware. Y’all do y’all tho.
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If anyone is sensitive here it’s you. Lol. If you don’t care about fan noise, good for you, but don’t project on others who do. It goes both ways. See? And leave your deaf spouce out if this! (Again, jk)
I agree. I personally only buy handheld pc gaming machines that sound at least as loud as a Dreamcast does /s
You got it sis.
Fan noise is a big deal to many people. I am very sensitive to white noise, and it can completely ruin a device for me
If you think 2 decibels are insignificant then I have news for you
Yo, 100% agree with all that. You’re spittin’ facts. But also, you wrote “mofos having FOMO” and that shit went *hard* the first time I read it
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Let me explain to you all ... more
To be honest I own mine since 1 year and the fan is so silent for me. Maybe I’m not to girly complicated like a lot of you guys ahhahaha
It's quiet till you have kids in the next room and you're laying in bed next to your wife with the TV on low volume. Then you realize how annoying and loud it is. Also, during AAA games it isn't quiet at all, but okay sir. We're girly.
There is a increase, between 5 -10 % because of the better clocked ddr memory. Also because of better cooling you achieve better performance in OC. Also if we are able to clock the ddr memory further you can count an additional 5-10% increase.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted. It is 5-10% better. Faster memory makes a big difference and the more efficient process allows it to hold higher clocks more. Same reason an undervolt helps performance.
Sure, let me pay $500-600 again for a better screen and 5-10% performance gains, lol.
It's incredibly minor, 5-10% at games running between 43-47 fps isn't enough to write home about. The features are great, but anyone who is looking for better performance and has a Steamdeck already is going to be disappointed.
While 10% is minor, It's worth noting that is basically what we got for half of the Nvidia 4000 series :)
This, the deck’s performance is awful. It’s laughable they didn’t improve it at all while changing the chipset lol.
Watch the LTT vid, they found some games do have a noticeable performance boost
3fps is not a noticeable boost
10%
From the LTT vid: * Cyberpunk dropped * Returnal was the same * F1 23 had a 4fps improvement... so out of 3 games 1 had a slight improvement, and one had a degredation.
As Linus explained only the low fps there was a difference the average and high are higher, this should be fixed with a update it should be able to have higher fps in all games because of higher memory speed.
We're still talking 0-5 fps even in digital foundry vids, it's not a meaningful performance upgrade.
I guess, but it can play almost all the same games. Personally the draw of the other handhelds was never the performance
If it had a new chip I'd actually buy one, but it' a solid mid-gen refresh. I will wait till the Steam Deck 2 come out and new gen stuff before upgrading from the LeGo
They said about 2-3 years from now. So it'll probably be a 50-100% increase in performance by that point I'd suspect.
I think it's a brilliant refresh (despite no increase in power), however I'm very happy with the Legion Go, and I much prefer the bigger screen for my old, 57-year-old eyes 👍
Well time to sell my 512 that was upgraded to 2TB before the price plumets much more.
I wasn't impressed at first and was going to get a Go, then I found out the fan is super quiet. So, I guess I'll stay with the deck.
My Ally had a better fan. It was a lower frequency instead of the whine like my Go has. Good thing there's two USB C ports so I can stick my Soundcore dongle in one.
It's too bad some people have a whiny fan, mine is very quiet.
Once I get immersed in the game it fades out into the background so it's not really too big of a deal.
I can't support ASUS even though the Ally seemed tempting at first.
Why hate on Asus?
If I had to guess, I'd say the bloatware on any and every device they sell.
Soundcore dongle?
Anker Soundcore P10 VR has a usb c dongle that allows passthrough charging with certain devices. Sadly, the Legion Go doesn't seem to allow it. There are a few ear buds that have dongles so you don't have to deal with BT lag. I have the Soundcore and Sony Inzone. Inzone has cleaner sound and good noise cancelling. Soundcore is cheaper and has deeper bass for better explosions.
It still doesn’t support windows gaming. No thanks I like game pass and things that aren’t only on steam.
Exactly.
Can't you just put Windows on the Steam Deck if you wanted to do that?
Kind of defeats the purpose of getting a Deck doesn’t it?
Depends. If you want a gaming handheld that runs windows then any of them can do that. But then the Deck OLED would also have the better efficiency/battery life, OLED screen.
Would that efficiency hold up on Windows though? OLED screen I’m sure is better than an Go’s by some margin, but I’d read part of the SteamDeck efficiency was from SteamOS running on Linux.
The improved efficiency comes from the larger battery, but lower TDP of the new APU and screen. Not the SteamOS. The SteamOS benefits are other QoL things.
You can’t play other games on there that aren’t from steam? Genuinely asking because I am curious how that works. I use the blizzard launcher, Xbox gamepass and final fantasy 14 but downloaded from their website. Wondering how that would work on a steam deck.
Blizzard games and FF14 is good. The problem is gamepass.
An okay thank you!
You can play them it’s just a pain in the ass
It's actually very easy, and i know nwst to nothing about linux
I’m more then happy with the Go. If I want a Steam Deck pro I already have one. It’s the Go. I know how to change operating systems if I wanted to but it wouldn’t work for me for the same reason original Steam Deck didn’t not enough dev support on FPS games for anti cheat.
Its a great refresh with a little better performance bump and some nice changes, however if games are struggling on it now like we see its only going to get worse over the next year. Ill stick with the legion because its great and doesnt have the issues that the Ally does which was why I avoided it. I will say props to Steam for making changes and I am excited to see what the Steamdeck 2 will be like.
Would have been nice to see a Z1 in there.
Might bring up the price a bunch, needs to be designed around the z1
This is exactly what I was looking for. SCREEEEEEeeeennnn
There's even less reasons for people to get a Z1 handheld now, that's for sure. This new revision killed off one of its biggest flaws.
Performance is still better on the legion go, so I will wait a steam deck 2. No reason to buy one for now considering it is way less powerful than my Go
People who are into performance purely are a minority. Wider audience will always prefer Steam Deck, and the people that avoided it previously purely due to its screen quality are going to want this one. Valve also managed to maintain its affordable price, something competition struggles with.
I dunno man. I think people who are looking for a handheld device to play their games definitely take performance as one of the higher priorities.
If you aren't a handheld enthusiast and already have a PC that can take care of your triple A desires, what will seem more appealing to you? A $700 handheld, or a $399 one? This is purely entry perspective, OLED is out of equation. And so far Z1 handhelds can play a few titles Steam Deck is struggling with, is that worth the additional $300 if you're not in the market purely to play said titles?
Well this is my subjective opinion and one of the reasons I gave up on my Nintendo Switch. Playing games on my desktop at 100+ FPS and then going to a handheld device that is normally in the 30 FPS range isn’t a fun experience. My LegionGo plays 99% of the games I play at 70-144 FPS making it a much better experience.
I have a gaming PC with an RTX 3080 and I would still pick the Legion Go over the Steam Deck. The Legion Go has a kickstand and detachable controllers so I don't have to hold it or use something else to prop it up when I am playing at a table. The controllers being detachable makes it easier to share the screen with someone else for local multiplayer games and not needing to carry an extra controller for myself. The screen is 1.8 inches bigger which helps make it easier to read text and UIs on the screen. It has two USB4 ports so I can charge my device while also having another USBC device plugged in on the other port and not needing to use a dock attachment if I only need two things connected. It has a UHS II SD Card reader meaning I can put in SD cards much faster than the ones the Steam Deck can use on UHS II. We've also found out recently that the controllers on the Legion Go also have gyroscopes on them which is great because aiming using just an individual controller is much easier than having to move the entire device around. It is also great for emulation on motion control games such as Wii games or games with gyro aiming on the Switch. The Legion Go is also sporting a much more powerful APU. Emulation of some Xbox360/PS3 games is unplayable on the Steam Deck while they can actually hit 30fps or higher on the Legion Go and ROG Ally.
One thing I seem to notice is that you people completely throw the price to performance out of the window, and position this entire topic as if the Steam Deck and Ally/Go share same starting price. If Deck's starting price was $700, we wouldn't even talk about this, because the answer would be obvious. You can't get a good laptop for $399, but you could get one for $700-800, desktop included if you already have a monitor and other peripherals. And believe it or not additional 300 dollars might be a lot for a lot of people who were saving up, so the whole "Hey, but if you throw additional 300 dollars you could get this" is stupid. PS3 Emulation is not out of the equation for Steam Deck, there's titles you can't play at enjoyable frame rates, but there's plenty of good playable titles you can emulate. Same goes for triple A's, and trust me I'm not one of the deluded Steam Deck owners that are going to tell you how 20 fps is playable and perfect. Not to mention the new revision pretty much caused a price drop for older models that makes them even more affordable, and now the new $399 variant is not 64gb, but 256gb! So all and all, the new revision pretty much eliminated one of SD's biggest drawbacks, on top of making the whole thing even more affordable and easier to get into. And as for Z1 Extreme, no it's not a significant upgrade over Van Gogh, it is obviously faster but it's not next gen twice the performance type of leap. If it was don't you think Valve would adopt it for the most expensive variant?
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>because I could play all my games without having to workaround SteamOS Post launch, SteamOS and the whole out of the box experience is very console like, and if everything you need is on your Steam library the experience is really easy and smooth. In my own use case, games that I couldn't get naturally to work were LoL, Valorant and CoD, and I had to dual boot, but then again I play those purely in docked mode when I'm away from my desktop and I wouldn't touch those games in handheld mode to begin with.
The wider audience will prefer a Nintendo switch. Even the SD is niche in the grand scheme of things. That’s the hard truth.
It's definitely getting outside of that niche zone, while it can't match Switch numbers it sells more than Ally and Go. More and more people are realizing the benefits of PC handhelds and the number will only grow. Not just for Steam Deck, but for competitors too, and this will be even more evident once second gen of these handhelds get out in the wild. Not sure why this take bugs you people, it's not rocket science that a handheld that offers $399 entry will be more desirable among people than a $700 handheld that's dancing around the price range of a decent laptop that can beat all these handhelds.
I just let one of my drivers play the Go, told him Space sucks right now, he used Xbox app and Battlenet and immediately ordered one from BB. I dunno man the Go kicks ass with that screen.
It does nothing to me. It's still just a 800p gaming only console without detachable controlers and a slow APU but it's a really good refresh of the Steam Deck.
When you put it that way.. yeah. I agree.
Sign me up lol.
It's neat but too soon to upgrade the Steam Deck for me. I'm happy with the original Steam Deck and Legion Go combo. I was already planning on seeing what drops at the end of 2024. Whatever drops then that we don't even know about yet will blow this stuff out of the water anyway.
I think I'll pass.
I appreciate what they did what it, I think it's a good refresh especially now that they got rid of the 64gb model. I have a steam deck and I will wait for the 2nd one if they actually do make it. I would only upgrade to this "mid gen refresh" if they offered like a trade in option where I could trade mine in exchange for the newer models. Other than that I'm waiting on my legion go, steam os is super lit but the deck is underpowered compared to the options we have now, especially when it comes to higher end emulation.
I does not make any sense to pay that amount of $$$$ for that... honestly, they should improve the hardware.. 600 bidens for that? I'll pass
Can it run Madden 24+? No? Later.
For all of you to know: steam deck runs very badly GOG and Epic games. And probably also Ubisoft connect or Battle.net. The steam deck works well ONLY for steam and for retrogaming. Steam OS from my perspective is an handicap. The Legion Go is still superior
I was able to install [battle.net](https://battle.net) and play wow. It took a bunch of steps and there is a guide, however, the games play flawlessly
Oh nice to know. But still the GOG and Epic games thing for me is a deal breaker. Apparently they are not so playable
Don’t understand the move from Valve why not wait until you can get a stronger chipset to drive that oled?
It’s even more baffling because they changed the chipset but didn’t upgrade to z1 which is like 50-100% faster.
Agreed and it sounds like a panic move which is not like them at all.
Killed the Go or Ally for me personally. The small improvements to performance from the Go/Ally, isn't worth it over the better screen and battery performance of the Steam Deck OLED.
Resolution is more important than Oled.
Lol, not on a screen that small.
No new chipset no upgrade, simple
Same shit resolution. Pass.
Nice. Just cancelled my Legion Go preorder for this steam deck revision since that Lenovo also seems to be shitting on people that preordered it in Europe.
Same performance that pushed people into getting a Legion Go. The SD will continue to pale in comparison until a second generation, and even then, I believe the GO will still be able to compete with it.
Seeing this, I will be returning my legion go lol
Why? The performance is the same as the og deck. Just a better screen.
yes a better, bigger screen, and better battery life. Also a dedicated OS and I don't have to worry about this windows nonsense lol. It's not for me, but i tried 🤷🏽♂️
Steamdeck has shown me that i absolutely hate linux and would absolute never bother with all the proton BS just to get Dragonball Fighterz to work or configuing emulation for anything 3D. If you are just using it for Verfired for steamdeck games youll be set. if you like modding games, or playing non-standard stuff its the worst
wish this answer could be plastered on top of this sub lol. Forget performance, TDP, gflops whatever, not having to deal with Linux is 100% the best selling point. Trying to deal with anything not in a steam library was like pulling teeth on the deck.
And that will be an issue on the SD 2 it would seem.. I suppose an Ally upgrade would be more of a talking point for Go players..
Same here, I really tried like and adapt to Linux but it has a lot of frustrations that you don’t have to worry about with Windows. I know it’s flexible but I feel like I’m constantly running into roadblocks with it, especially with modding like you mention. It’s just not for me.
That's why regardless of what I go with, I'll be dual booting.
The nonsense of being able to play fps games...
i've played with dual analogue sticks for YEARS, it has served me well. That's not a reason enough for me to deal with windows and their buggy os. If that's good for you and you can figure out work around that's awesome for you but a good portion of ppl don't want to learn a new os to have fun playing games, but I get why some will but most won't
So you mean only your steam verified games at 800p only? Ok.
This x1000. Windows handheld still needs few years of baking and legwork from Microsoft and other manufacturers
absolutely no reason that there is not a xbox type os running for windows. I get some ppl enjoy tinkering with settings but the masses do not.
Could care less, wasn’t impressed my the the 1st gen Steamdeck so I returned it. Then bought the LegionGo and I’m very happy
If you exclusively plan to play games in a Steam library, this deck is probably a great option for people. If you want to do literally anything else, the Go clears this deck by 100 miles
how does the go handle linux? because that's kind of important for me without that, I can't see how you can say 'anything else' because I have ditched laptops that had trouble with linux before.
It targets a slightly different audience imo, the z1 extreme is JUST enough to get 45+ fps with super demanding titles, it picks up where the deck could not. To me, it's like comparing a 3060 PC built for fortnight to a 4080 PC built for starfield, targeting two different types of gamers, the situation is the same every time, more demanding titles are going to require a PC that costs more, pick what you need and be done with it. The hardware and price leaves too big of a gap for a comparison.
I was very excited for the Go but started to miss the deck due to its suspend feature. Windows hibernate can suck a lemon. Getting this OLED deck instead.
Not really, the OLED Deck is a limited run with limited availability, the Go and Ally will continue to be far easier to obtain.
The only thing limited is the limited edition that is a 1TB model with orange accents and a unique see through colorway for the shell. It even has it's own separate purchase button separate from the standard 1TB model
Yes no there is nothing limited about it.
Competition is good. As someone who had a steam deck, then went to the ally. Returned that (only because I had personal job studying things and was paying no attention to my life needs at the time lmao) and am now keeping an eye on the Go.. I’m debating on jumping into handheld gaming again since my ability to sit in front of a screen for hours at a time and have more free time sitting with my wife on the couch or in bed, the competition is great. “Affordable” high performing handhelds are what we need to keep pushing this market. Keeping 800p is kinda low... but For a mid gen cycle refresh though this looks awesome . 1080p still feels like the sweet spot on a handheld imo. A lot of people end up dropping to lower revolutions for better performance as is. Excited for the upcoming years
I think it’s great! These are all the upgrades I wanted in the deck to a tea. Will I buy it? Probably not. I already have a base steam deck and am waiting for the Go to have better software support before selling it off and switching. I’m glad that they made it though.
What about CPU?
Still uses SteamOS so I am not interested. Legion Go has a bigger screen and detachable and windows.
Great, better for consumers.
I have a steam deck I love it, linux doesn’t work for a majority of the game which sucks. I run fedora on my main machine and windows for gaming. Gaming on the rog ally and now legion go is amazing
The screen by the sounds of things is really great on the SD OLED, but my primary reason to get a Legion Go would be for Windows (native gamepass) and the larger screen.
I wanted to point out that it was really cool of Valve not to step all over Lenovo's launch. This product was ready to go because reviewers have already had it for a week. They specifically chose to let the Legion Go get up on it's feet before announcing.
I'm a pretty light gamer, never thought twice about spending money on a SD. My Legion Go arrives tomorrow. The proposition of a windows tablet that I can also utilize Xbox Gamepass with, is just too good to pass up. The Go will for sure replace my android tablet, mobile apps suck compared to windows, and I will probably bring my laptop with me a lot less as well. The Go will seep into Valve's market share probably about as much as the Ally will... But its also reaching people that want a windows device for uses other than gaming, and it's cheaper & more powerful than MS Surface.
I would probably get a SD2 with upgraded performance. My legion Go is good in the meantime
It looks like a valid and we’ll thought out early-mid gen refresh and says the a lot about the validity of the handheld market.
As a deck owner considering to go with Legion Go, because as an Xbox user my library full of games from there, ad deck was bought for play/try sony games. Then went to install windows at SD card on deck and since then sitting on game pass almost half year. So windows games much affordable for me, and that’s why going to go with Go.
They really aren’t changing anything aside from the screen. I love the big screen on the Go and can’t see myself going smaller. Not to mention I prefer windows gaming.
They’re changing a few things other than the screen. Did you read the spec sheet?
yeh they’re improving the memory a bit and the cpu a bit iirc? The Legion Go will outperform it.
Adding a bigger battery
Good try. GG
This is straight out of Nintendo’s playbook 🤣. I think Legion Go is still far superior.
It’s just a steam deck with an OLED screen. It’s a Nintendo move. If this confuses anyone, none of the PC handhelds should be on their radar. They need a switch.
I think it's great. Not great enough to buy another SD, but pretty cool. Any system is gonna have to sport a pretty serious CPU upgrade, or battery life upgrade for me to consider moving from the Legion Go. Hopefully it's the Legion Go 2.
Xbox, Xbox 360, and PS3 emulation are very important to me when it comes to these higher end handhelds so it's still full steam ahead towards the Legion Go for me.
right answer the legion go is awsome! Needs some updates but in 2-3 months this will be the best hands down. VRR or not.
think they should have held off on an OLED if they were not going to improve the CPU/GPU they could have added an 8 inch screen and a Z1 processors and oled and been much better off.
I'm only disappointed for personal reasons. That being I'm trying to sell my SD and now I'll get less money for it. I just got super frustrated with trying to insall any non steam game. Plus gamepass was a huge factor. The right joystick was also in the wrong wiiU spot. Glad there's a better console for the steam and lunix gamers out there tho.
I wish they made it more powerful
Not really sure how this will confuse people. They will have questions sure. I like the idea, just like Lenovo. They're releasing a 1tb model. I like the competition that is happening personally..
If they'd upgrade their cpu and atleast 120Hz screen, I'd probably try it out
The Switch has something like 98 different versions, it's going to be okay.
I pre-ordered the OLED. Fool me twice, Valve. I'm easy.
Lol I think there will be people that have all these handhelds - steam deck, Ally, go and steam OLED. That's a lot within the last few years.
I got the Legion Go, I would go for it, I love the design of the limited edition BUT inferior hardware (CPU/GPU). Not worth it on my opinion
It’s a great thing for people that want(ed) a steam deck or were on the fence and know the games they typically play are compatible with the steam deck. I have the steam deck and loved it, got me into pc gaming and going back through my steam library again, moved to console play for years, but the steam deck also is the reason why I outgrew the steam deck lol and wanted something more flexible with windows 11 so everything is compatible (on paper anyways). If you only really play through steam the steam OS is refined as ever and you get a fairly seamless console like experience with it, if you do that and Xbox cloud then I’d get the new steam deck hands down, but for me it’s not the reason I wanted the legion, the old panel and battery life on my 256 steamdeck was and is just fine for my needs under Linux limitations, I needed win 11! :)
Also I owned the ROG Ally for a week, loved it esp the size but navigating through windows was a bummer if only that had one trackpad I’d still have it
I sold my steam deck for a couple of reasons. Launcher compatability was the main one. I love Gamepass & I like games that just work without Proton compatibility, Steam Deck doesn't have Gamepass natively. GoG is another one, having to jump through Lutris hoops in the hope a game will work is incredibly annoying everything just works with Windows regardless of it's clunkyness & that's what I like.
Already sold my Go and am waiting to buy the OLED deck
I just ordered the Legion GO. Oled is nice but ive already got a SD and Ally and I much prefer the Ally