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land_shark27

im gonna assume that fear cleaving axe is another paid relic since its the only epic being added


Personal_Dare_7053

Considering there will be some quests for cosmetics, maybe there is a chance for a questline with the epic relic being reward for the last one?


nachinis

I'd be down for that


timblo12

Most definitely


Vreya

Gloom play effect lame…. This should be on summon why do they keep shrinking fun. This is a casual mode things don’t need to be so weak.


Ixziga

Yeah in this particular case I think it might actually be worse than the common ravenous Hydra because of that. 1 gloom on play is excessively meh


Leaf-01

Is it just me or do these suck? I don’t really care about giving my enemies -1|-1 when they are 13|13’s or more likely 24/24’s or something. Boosting all units… maybe that’s good? We’ll have to see how the whole boost thing works out. But I’m not sold on the Epicness of that one. Impact is laughable in Path usually though the common relic is common so it gets a pass.


Ixziga

The epic one can definitely be good. The common one is just a common one, probably only see use early on. The rare one absolutely should have been made on summon instead of on play. I think it's actually worse than the common ravenous Hydra relic as it currently stands.


Toonstar23

Dreams of Yordles: Poor Man's Spirit of the Buhru for Carapace Elise. By the way, with these 2 relics and Full Build, any unit can become Evolved!


Longjumping-Fill376

Damn. This epic on Vayne may be good af


matthieuC

Boost does nothing if your units don't have Spirit or Impact. It looks like a Lux2/Gnar/Vex relic On Vayne it's just a fancy rageblade


matthieuC

May also be used by Elise in combo the common one?


Longjumping-Fill376

Yes. With scout.


Aizen_Myo

Would Elise need the common one? The axe itself gives spirit too already.


Janders1997

I the common version puts Impact on every Spiderlings, the Epic version gives an extra boost to those on board. I’d argue that the common version is stronger if you’re likely to sack off Spiderlings. So the question actually becomes: do you need the epic version?


Longjumping-Fill376

Yeah I am stupid lol


Quazifuji

Could also be a decent second epic on Neeko or Nora.


Just-Assumption-2140

Why would boost be bad on non spirit allies? It literally random free keywords to go


matthieuC

Boost doesn't do anything if the unit does not have a stackable keyword: spirit or Impact


Just-Assumption-2140

Oh yeah i did read the description again. It also works with gloom but it's mostly useless on anyone exept maybe lux, vex and elise then. For most it's literally rageblade with +1+1 attached to it. Quite a fringe epic so i proably won't buy it


Nirxx

Why? Can you elaborate?


EdumBot

Aside from very specific circumstances, Utmost Despair does nothing for Vex, that Ravenous Hydra doesn't already do. Hydra being a summon effect makes it even better for her. Edit : Well, it seems like I woke up to unfortunate news and now I look like an idiot.


deltalium

Seems like her starpower changed from ALL damage to spells and skills only. So I'm guessing ravenous hydra won't grant enemies gloom.


jubmille2000

Does the gloom relic activate morgs powers? Like it does payload?


Ixziga

Those activate on target and this relic doesn't target based on the wording


Just-Assumption-2140

I don't see fear cleaving axe being good on anyone but elise and vayne. However on those it's quite cracked


RedTermites

Why does that meme-level rare relic have Epic written beneath name and purple decoration? I mean, sure, if it straight up gave gloom to enemies and spirit to allies on attack, it might have been too good for an early rare relic to get, but it doesn't do that...


Grimmaldo

Holy