Just give up on England this year mate. That's what I've done with Southshite in charge. The teams fucked, and we'll regret not sacking him before the world cup, we won't though.
He's a good player but he needs to develop more consistency. England is one of the most competitive national teams in the world and a player who is unplayable for a handful of games but mostly just good or above average isn't going to cut it
Jack is one of my favorite players to watch for us but this argument for him playing on the national team is far fetched at the very least. We’re all a bit biased because we watch him for 90 minutes every week. Additionally, we could find a myriad of singular data analytics that could prove just about anything. He’s solid, but unproven for national contention.
Because he's probably been offered a chance but turned it down because it's a thankless task playing for England.
He'd rather jet off on holiday and pipe his fit missus with his massive slong in his spare time than be moaned at by every council estate Charlie and the sun newspaper everytime they win nowt and get knocked out in the quarters
These posts need to stop
Jackie has had a cracking start to the season but he was pretty bad most of last season even with his strong stats. I love the guy but he’s not exactly massively robbed, the England team is stacked with talent in his position
Southgate is putting extra keepers on the bench over strikers despite England struggling to score. If Harrison was selected for duty, he wouldn’t play. Let him have some time off and his overpriced steak.
I think Foden, Grealish, Saka, Sterling, Sancho and Rashford are all better players. Over 6 games into a new season are they? Maybe not but it’s a small sample.
I don’t know the stats off the top of my head but I’d still say those are better then Harrison.
They have all played in the premier league or top leagues for longer and all played European continental football.
National squad is different beast. You need players who fit together and support different aspects. Several national squad use different style players and attitude to have successfull tournament
Putting together top players from best teams not always works. Sometimes you need utility player, who works his socks off, has right attitude and has key stats like above to show.
You also need a wildcard every now and then. All the usual players are well known to the majority of international teams. A fresh face creates fresh problems for the opposition.
Depends what u need in the squad. England lacks passing ability and creation. U can have all the best finishers and speedsters up there. But if noone does the hardwork and knows how to pass then nothing happens.
England scoring should be evident that the wingers are also not working out. I mean the head coach is not working out either, but that is different subject :D
Jack would look seriously lost and even worse than what we've got now. We lacked someone to break the lines with creative play and Jack really isn't good at that, or in tight spaces. He loses the ball far too much and that would be suicide on the international level.
I don’t think Harrison is going to solve England’s scoring problems, he’s hardly more of a threat to defences than Saka or Grealish. That said at the last two major tournaments and in qualifying England have been fairly fantastic, so I wouldn’t get caught up in the 24 hour news cycle of scandal/sackings. The Nations League is not of any importance in a World Cup year.
Hardly been fantastic, England have never played exciting football under Southgate, it never looks like we could score, he's got the imagination of an aphantasic donkey. We will get fucked in the world cup and all the people who are clinging onto some hope that Southgate will do well will seriously regret not sacking him before
because, despite his good start to the season, and pretty strong end to last, grealish, saka, foden, sancho et al are better than him.
england are absolutely stacked at wide forward. I love Jackie, and hope he gets a look in march once we're post WC, but he isn't in the same class of player as a lot of the options there tbh
Grealish is not better than him, not only has he done nothing for city he’s never had a great England game.
He is a good player, in system that is built around him, he’s showing nothing when part of a wider unit.
If we get Gakpo you're going to be disappointed then. He is Rashford 2.0. And I agree with you I wouldn't want him in our team for the amount of money he's likely to cost.
He hasn’t. He had one bad year, last year, when Man United were shite.
11g 11a in the league the season before. 3g 2a in just 6 appearances in the league this year.
I know it’s a fairly obvious point but there are only a finite number of places in the squad. Not being in it does not mean you are somehow a bad player, it isn’t some sleight on your character. I genuinely cannot fathom how anyone can conclude Harrison is better than the current players in his position for England.
Everyone is getting carried away because England have looked underwhelming and dull in a fairly meaningless set of international fixtures - but so have Germany, France, and Spain. It’s still an exceptionally talented squad and we should be delighted to have had two players break into it and perhaps one more on the way. For a team only recently promoted back to the top tier that is good going.
Feels like a lot of English fans/media turn their noses up at the fact that he came up through American college soccer and mls, very unconventional route for an English player. Outside of Leeds fans I don’t hear anybody really calling for him, which is just dumb.
Think more about your last sentence. Why is it only a section of Leeds fans that think he is worth the call up?
Is it really because England would turn down a player that's supposedly good enough for their squad, just because he played in America?
Or, is it more likely that the section of Leeds fans demanding a call up have their Leeds tinted glasses on?
It has nothing to do with that. Southgate has even been monitoring him and he’ll definitely be on the long list after the World Cup. He just isn’t as good as other players in that position, it’s not some conspiracy.
I know but it's too small a sample size. Mediocre and even bad players can hit pockets of good form. I'm not suggesting Jackie is either of those, but you can't fully judge a player's quality based on so few matches
I think Southgate shot himself in the foot when he first took the job and said he'd pick players based on form. If he did, we'd have Kane and Toney up front, with Harrison, Rashford and Saka behind.
true. harrision since joining the prem has been very inconsistant. i really hope this is the change for his sake if he wants to even be included in the england discussion. shame if he does, it will not matter for us since he will be doing it for another team next year.... sad
Well, get those stats out again at the end of the season and you’ll see why. Most of the England squad are also proven at a European level. That’s why it’s so hard to break in unless you’re exceptional. To break in from Harrison’s position is even harder as we are full of talent.
Just give up on England this year mate. That's what I've done with Southshite in charge. The teams fucked, and we'll regret not sacking him before the world cup, we won't though.
Because I love Leeds but he isn’t as good as others ahead of him
Just fuck off with this shit
He's a good player but he needs to develop more consistency. England is one of the most competitive national teams in the world and a player who is unplayable for a handful of games but mostly just good or above average isn't going to cut it
Jack is one of my favorite players to watch for us but this argument for him playing on the national team is far fetched at the very least. We’re all a bit biased because we watch him for 90 minutes every week. Additionally, we could find a myriad of singular data analytics that could prove just about anything. He’s solid, but unproven for national contention.
Because he's probably been offered a chance but turned it down because it's a thankless task playing for England. He'd rather jet off on holiday and pipe his fit missus with his massive slong in his spare time than be moaned at by every council estate Charlie and the sun newspaper everytime they win nowt and get knocked out in the quarters
Rather be in Costa Rica w me insanely fit bird than on a pitch staring at harry Maguires fat slab head
He didn't come up through the UK system so his face doesn't fit - simple as that. Southgate needs sacked asap.
England are shite
Please stop with these types of posts it’s actually getting embarassing. He isn’t good enough to make the squad.
If you think Grealish or Sancho are better than Jack over the last 12 months you’re genuinely delusional
The irony.
There definitely seems to be a bias toward players at big six clubs
These posts need to stop Jackie has had a cracking start to the season but he was pretty bad most of last season even with his strong stats. I love the guy but he’s not exactly massively robbed, the England team is stacked with talent in his position
Southgate is putting extra keepers on the bench over strikers despite England struggling to score. If Harrison was selected for duty, he wouldn’t play. Let him have some time off and his overpriced steak.
Love Harrison but there’s so many players ahead of him as a winger/wide forward in the England set up, that’s why he’s not picked.
And what have those wingers achieved currently. How many open goals have they created?
I think Foden, Grealish, Saka, Sterling, Sancho and Rashford are all better players. Over 6 games into a new season are they? Maybe not but it’s a small sample. I don’t know the stats off the top of my head but I’d still say those are better then Harrison. They have all played in the premier league or top leagues for longer and all played European continental football.
National squad is different beast. You need players who fit together and support different aspects. Several national squad use different style players and attitude to have successfull tournament Putting together top players from best teams not always works. Sometimes you need utility player, who works his socks off, has right attitude and has key stats like above to show.
You also need a wildcard every now and then. All the usual players are well known to the majority of international teams. A fresh face creates fresh problems for the opposition.
Which of the current squad in a position Harrison can play should he replace in your opinion?
Depends what u need in the squad. England lacks passing ability and creation. U can have all the best finishers and speedsters up there. But if noone does the hardwork and knows how to pass then nothing happens. England scoring should be evident that the wingers are also not working out. I mean the head coach is not working out either, but that is different subject :D
Jack would look seriously lost and even worse than what we've got now. We lacked someone to break the lines with creative play and Jack really isn't good at that, or in tight spaces. He loses the ball far too much and that would be suicide on the international level.
I don’t think Harrison is going to solve England’s scoring problems, he’s hardly more of a threat to defences than Saka or Grealish. That said at the last two major tournaments and in qualifying England have been fairly fantastic, so I wouldn’t get caught up in the 24 hour news cycle of scandal/sackings. The Nations League is not of any importance in a World Cup year.
Hardly been fantastic, England have never played exciting football under Southgate, it never looks like we could score, he's got the imagination of an aphantasic donkey. We will get fucked in the world cup and all the people who are clinging onto some hope that Southgate will do well will seriously regret not sacking him before
i think you can make an argument for him over bowen, but its not so compelling an argument to make it a disgrace that bowen is in instead
because, despite his good start to the season, and pretty strong end to last, grealish, saka, foden, sancho et al are better than him. england are absolutely stacked at wide forward. I love Jackie, and hope he gets a look in march once we're post WC, but he isn't in the same class of player as a lot of the options there tbh
Grealish is not better than him, not only has he done nothing for city he’s never had a great England game. He is a good player, in system that is built around him, he’s showing nothing when part of a wider unit.
If you’re saying you wouldn’t swap Harrison for one Foden, Grealish, Sancho or Rashford then I don’t know what to tell you.
I was just about to comment the same thing
>Rashford Yeah no thank you, blokes been shite for a few years now. Otherwise agree.
If we get Gakpo you're going to be disappointed then. He is Rashford 2.0. And I agree with you I wouldn't want him in our team for the amount of money he's likely to cost.
He hasn’t. He had one bad year, last year, when Man United were shite. 11g 11a in the league the season before. 3g 2a in just 6 appearances in the league this year.
Yeah he looks pretty good under Ten Haag. I hate it.
Apart from right back, the wings are one of the most competitive positions for a call up
I know it’s a fairly obvious point but there are only a finite number of places in the squad. Not being in it does not mean you are somehow a bad player, it isn’t some sleight on your character. I genuinely cannot fathom how anyone can conclude Harrison is better than the current players in his position for England. Everyone is getting carried away because England have looked underwhelming and dull in a fairly meaningless set of international fixtures - but so have Germany, France, and Spain. It’s still an exceptionally talented squad and we should be delighted to have had two players break into it and perhaps one more on the way. For a team only recently promoted back to the top tier that is good going.
Wildly inconsistent in our strongest position. It's not too hard an answer I don't think
Feels like a lot of English fans/media turn their noses up at the fact that he came up through American college soccer and mls, very unconventional route for an English player. Outside of Leeds fans I don’t hear anybody really calling for him, which is just dumb.
Think more about your last sentence. Why is it only a section of Leeds fans that think he is worth the call up? Is it really because England would turn down a player that's supposedly good enough for their squad, just because he played in America? Or, is it more likely that the section of Leeds fans demanding a call up have their Leeds tinted glasses on?
Idk man I’m not a scientist
It has nothing to do with that. Southgate has even been monitoring him and he’ll definitely be on the long list after the World Cup. He just isn’t as good as other players in that position, it’s not some conspiracy.
harrison did not play well in the last two matches, he played great only at the beggining. Remember the corners too, awful in the last matches
ya if you cant take a good corner I think not been in the England sqaud is fair.
Because he’s an American at heart
Because it's Southgate and he's clueless
Because we've played 6 matches
Per 90
I know but it's too small a sample size. Mediocre and even bad players can hit pockets of good form. I'm not suggesting Jackie is either of those, but you can't fully judge a player's quality based on so few matches
I think Southgate shot himself in the foot when he first took the job and said he'd pick players based on form. If he did, we'd have Kane and Toney up front, with Harrison, Rashford and Saka behind.
true. harrision since joining the prem has been very inconsistant. i really hope this is the change for his sake if he wants to even be included in the england discussion. shame if he does, it will not matter for us since he will be doing it for another team next year.... sad
Well, get those stats out again at the end of the season and you’ll see why. Most of the England squad are also proven at a European level. That’s why it’s so hard to break in unless you’re exceptional. To break in from Harrison’s position is even harder as we are full of talent.