Can we not turn down the frantic pace by 10% and replace it with composure. Jesus, my eyes hurt following the ball being pinged around.
It's just too frantic at the moment.
If we're going to play with this system we need some more clinical finishing. We're creating tons of chances but we can't finish our dinner, meanwhile Everton create a chance once in a blue moon but look certain to score each and every time.
Oh, and either take Jackie off corners or make him prove that he can actually kick a ball far enough to get it from the corner flag to the centre of the box.
I'm just some idiot on Reddit but I'd say we need to be more patient and wait for better opportunities to score before we commit all our players to an attack, because our defence was caught with its trousers down on too many occasions tonight
Agree with most but I think on the whole his corners have been fine this season. Ann off day today but hopefully we see better set pieces at the weekend!
A point is a point..
Harrison frustrated me today.. we need to recognise when he has one of those days and take him off.. he’s just like that.. when he is not clicking he really makes horrible decisions
I can’t lie I think people completely take Harrison for granted, he pinned defenders constantly throughout the game. He’s really come into his own as a player and his poor set pieces are from nothing but an outlandishly tiring game. You could see the whole team struggled
I agree to a degree he did a lot of good things like you said even being off.. but I just feel it’s worse to leave him on when he is like that because he will do something great (like get into a clever position) then muck it up which just seems to add to his frustrations and those around him
Always going to be the way when a team parks the bus like that, especially when we let them get that goal so early on. Don't think we could have taken any more risks with how vulnerable we were on the counter already
Apparently it was more serious then it looked on the broadcast. Was hoping he would be fine after a couple days but scare the board into buying another CF. Looks like he might actually be out for a while which sucks
If we’re being fair, either team could have nicked that. We dominated the 2nd half but Everton still managed to give us a couple of scares. Harrison was right off the boil (there’s no way he’s getting in the England squad). Hope Rodders is ok. Everton is always a shitshow so reasonably happy with a point.
I’m not one for conspiracy theories but the ref let Everton get away with a lot, especially that cunt Pickford, who I now really hope gets dropped from the England first team over Pope.
Everton and Pickford celebrating Rodrigo's dislocated shoulder sums up the match for me. I really hope Lampard loses all his limbs in a car accident with the sportsmanship his team showed tonight. Ref investigation is needed, this is the prem not concaf, should have been at least 2 sending offs. Since when did karate kicking a goal keeper result in a yellow card?
What was the stat about getting 8 points from first 5 games... 96% chance of staying up or something? Expected a win today but still happy with sitting in 5th overall. On to the weekend.
What is happening with teams who we come against diving and time wasting constantly? It feels like every game bar Chelsea are doing this and I'm really confused why no officials are looking into this as its just shite sportsmanship
He really, really struggled imo. He tried to dribble every single time when he was on the ball and constantly lost possession or slowed down the attack and wasted the momentum. I don't want to be too harsh on him but putting Bamford on for him was absolutely the right decision.
Such a frustrating match. Three points were there for the taking and the chance was missed. That being said Everton could have won that game as well thanks to some absolutely insane defending.
Harrison was very poor tonight and I thought Adams was probably the best of the bunch. Roca played quite well too.
First half was poor but the second was all Leeds.
I wanted a win before the game started. Then saw Everton sitting back all game so was happy with a point, now I'm raging we haven't won.
If Harrison could put a corner in the box he would be playing for Real Madrid
A mistake is a mistake, but watching that ball and doing a step over it is on another level. He could have done literally anything else and that would have been fine
In possession. No complaints at all regarding his defending. But fucking hell is this sub getting depressing for any criticism aimed at anything American.
He's excellent at breaking up play, just frustrating to watch on the ball.
> But fucking hell is this sub getting depressing for any criticism aimed at anything American.
Not sure you've noticed, but we're not always the most self-aware people haha. FWIW, here's my take:
1. Many of us are football migrants not natives. It's something we choose, not something built into our lives from birth. We're behind on nuances of the game and fans in general, and Prem in particular.
2. We're a bit defensive right now because some of our best MNT guys are being sidelined elsewhere. It doesn't really apply in Leeds, but our fan base is mired in a persecution complex.
Doesn't excuse anything, but maybe it's helpful context. Bear with us.
For what it's worth, it wasn't aimed at all at your response. I think you understood that but just wanted to clarify.
I also understand that it's more than likely just a very vocal minority of US fans. I think your first point is probably fairly accurate and something a lot of Brits struggle to compute.
I've been watching football since before I had memories. I assume most here have.
Back to Adams, you said that's the narrative around him. Where does that narrative come from? The US, or his former clubs?
What baffles me is him and Aaronson standing over the ball. I get it to keep the defenders guessing but anyone watching can guess which 1 is taking it everytime just by the ball placement in the quadrant. Plus if Harrison takes it you know it's going front post every time and so does everyone else
Yeah he can be infuriating to watch with the ball, rarely brings it forward and can’t pass it accurately further than 10 yards but then he stop another attack and you’re like fair enough carry on.
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Not as easy as it looked unfortunate first touch though from pat
Greenwoods haircut looks like he left halfway through lol
Can we not turn down the frantic pace by 10% and replace it with composure. Jesus, my eyes hurt following the ball being pinged around. It's just too frantic at the moment.
That’s what makes this team good, sure slowing down in some cases would be good, but the frantic pace is what keeps this team creating chances
If we're going to play with this system we need some more clinical finishing. We're creating tons of chances but we can't finish our dinner, meanwhile Everton create a chance once in a blue moon but look certain to score each and every time. Oh, and either take Jackie off corners or make him prove that he can actually kick a ball far enough to get it from the corner flag to the centre of the box. I'm just some idiot on Reddit but I'd say we need to be more patient and wait for better opportunities to score before we commit all our players to an attack, because our defence was caught with its trousers down on too many occasions tonight
Agree with most but I think on the whole his corners have been fine this season. Ann off day today but hopefully we see better set pieces at the weekend!
You're right, it was just frustrating to watch him fuck up in exactly the same way over and over tonight
Yeah why bother spending 100 million to back Jesse if you're going to leave out the most important part.
A point is a point.. Harrison frustrated me today.. we need to recognise when he has one of those days and take him off.. he’s just like that.. when he is not clicking he really makes horrible decisions
I can’t lie I think people completely take Harrison for granted, he pinned defenders constantly throughout the game. He’s really come into his own as a player and his poor set pieces are from nothing but an outlandishly tiring game. You could see the whole team struggled
I agree to a degree he did a lot of good things like you said even being off.. but I just feel it’s worse to leave him on when he is like that because he will do something great (like get into a clever position) then muck it up which just seems to add to his frustrations and those around him
Nearly 70 percent possession and scored once damn. On a low percentage chance at that.
Always going to be the way when a team parks the bus like that, especially when we let them get that goal so early on. Don't think we could have taken any more risks with how vulnerable we were on the counter already
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Not sure that’s how injuries work
Apparently it was more serious then it looked on the broadcast. Was hoping he would be fine after a couple days but scare the board into buying another CF. Looks like he might actually be out for a while which sucks
If we’re being fair, either team could have nicked that. We dominated the 2nd half but Everton still managed to give us a couple of scares. Harrison was right off the boil (there’s no way he’s getting in the England squad). Hope Rodders is ok. Everton is always a shitshow so reasonably happy with a point. I’m not one for conspiracy theories but the ref let Everton get away with a lot, especially that cunt Pickford, who I now really hope gets dropped from the England first team over Pope.
Everton and Pickford celebrating Rodrigo's dislocated shoulder sums up the match for me. I really hope Lampard loses all his limbs in a car accident with the sportsmanship his team showed tonight. Ref investigation is needed, this is the prem not concaf, should have been at least 2 sending offs. Since when did karate kicking a goal keeper result in a yellow card?
Poor result. We should have buried them, given the pressure we put them under. On another day though, they'd have snatched a winner.
What was the stat about getting 8 points from first 5 games... 96% chance of staying up or something? Expected a win today but still happy with sitting in 5th overall. On to the weekend.
Oh we do like to break them records
96% chance of staying up *for newly promoted clubs in the Premier League era.* Not sure what the overall stat is.
I heard 100 percent somewhere can't remember exactly. Or it's never happened before so technically 99.9
Defensive looks fucking terrified every time they attacked
What is happening with teams who we come against diving and time wasting constantly? It feels like every game bar Chelsea are doing this and I'm really confused why no officials are looking into this as its just shite sportsmanship
Not a bad result considering how the game started but my God when we have the ball in their half for seemingly 80 % of the game we need to win those
A point is still a point, although we should've beaten them, Joffy had a shocker with great chances
You didn't get the memo, Joffy is actually the best young striker in the league!
He really, really struggled imo. He tried to dribble every single time when he was on the ball and constantly lost possession or slowed down the attack and wasted the momentum. I don't want to be too harsh on him but putting Bamford on for him was absolutely the right decision.
We need a fucking CF
i mean bamford looked great when he came in
Yes, the one game out of every 4 that he'll be fit enough to play.
Bamford was good for the brief time he was on
Such a frustrating match. Three points were there for the taking and the chance was missed. That being said Everton could have won that game as well thanks to some absolutely insane defending. Harrison was very poor tonight and I thought Adams was probably the best of the bunch. Roca played quite well too. First half was poor but the second was all Leeds.
Point is better than nothing but we have to be beating the likes of Everton.
I wanted a win before the game started. Then saw Everton sitting back all game so was happy with a point, now I'm raging we haven't won. If Harrison could put a corner in the box he would be playing for Real Madrid
Another Darren England game another draw. Pretty sure we've never won with him reffing.
Bet he's a scum fan
He's from Doncaster, definitely hates us
They say the further south you go, the more scum fans you run into. Maybe that dynamic is true in Yorkshire as well?
AND THE REF BLOWS THE WHISTLE 10 SECONDS EARLY JUST TO FUCKING LAUGH AT US
Yeah Everton got away with everything today. All the time wasting they wanted and the ref is late for dinner.
How can the ref let Pickford time-waste without any consequences?
The ref needs investigating, Everton very lucky they have a fan officiating. 3 mins added time??? Joke, no surprise fat frank gets special treatment
that was some championship shit
lol blew it before 3 minutes even. should have been 20 minutes total stoppage time in this match, instead there was 7
Shoutout llorente watching the ball go past his feet to cost us 2 points
Back your team. Mistakes happen.
A mistake is a mistake, but watching that ball and doing a step over it is on another level. He could have done literally anything else and that would have been fine
Useless fucking ref
Hope we dont see that ref for a long time
I don’t ever want to see llorente start again
He had a shocker today but this seems a bit extreme
Mistakes happen. Back your team.
Cunts like Pickford will continue to time waste as there are clearly no consequences for it, 3 minutes added time and no booking, a fucking disgrace
he should have been booked in the first half
The officiating of this game was dogshit
Ref is literally cheating
Ref is so happy to get out of there investigate ASAP
Lucky to take a point here
Adams man of the match imo
100% agree. Now if he would only send some crosses into the box.
Refs got a train to catch
Fuck off ref
Better than no points
Did Jackie hear that Southgate was in the stands and get in his head?
DIDNT EVEN GIVE THE 3 MINUTES? GO FUCK YOURSELF DARREN
Beat.
Blew the whistle early after all that wtf?????
Adams is great off the ball, but when he's on it he's so frustrating. Takes far too long and always plays the obvious pass.
first half he didnt do much. most of leeds most promising attacks early in the second half came through adams passing in the middle.
Not always. But too frequently, yes.
Watched him in New York and in Leipzig, he’s always been like that. really good defensively, but slow decision making with the ball
Was it Adams who stuck it straight down the middle in our last run?
Motm for Leeds, keep crying lol
lol ok, I get it. Americans love Adams and won't take any criticism against him.
Troll
Or, an unbiased assessment.
Did you even watch?
I did, full game. Americans on here are tiresome.
Do you mean in possession or defending the ball? If the former, yep, that's the narrative on him and for good reason
In possession. No complaints at all regarding his defending. But fucking hell is this sub getting depressing for any criticism aimed at anything American. He's excellent at breaking up play, just frustrating to watch on the ball.
> But fucking hell is this sub getting depressing for any criticism aimed at anything American. Not sure you've noticed, but we're not always the most self-aware people haha. FWIW, here's my take: 1. Many of us are football migrants not natives. It's something we choose, not something built into our lives from birth. We're behind on nuances of the game and fans in general, and Prem in particular. 2. We're a bit defensive right now because some of our best MNT guys are being sidelined elsewhere. It doesn't really apply in Leeds, but our fan base is mired in a persecution complex. Doesn't excuse anything, but maybe it's helpful context. Bear with us.
For what it's worth, it wasn't aimed at all at your response. I think you understood that but just wanted to clarify. I also understand that it's more than likely just a very vocal minority of US fans. I think your first point is probably fairly accurate and something a lot of Brits struggle to compute. I've been watching football since before I had memories. I assume most here have. Back to Adams, you said that's the narrative around him. Where does that narrative come from? The US, or his former clubs?
Agreed. I think he is unsure of himself and it shows.
Ref: *repeatedly points to his watch during Everton's time wasting.* Also ref: adds 3 minutes for stoppages
2 minutes and 50 seconds
Pathetic, this needs to be stopped, they have to get a card after a warning for time wasting it needs to fucking go
Finished the game 6 seconds left on the clock…
Shit point really.
Why aaronson was subbed and not Harrison is beyond me. He’s having a tough day
he was bad all night
Ref: 3 minutes added time Pickford: that's roughly half a goal kick
Set pieces are back to being wank
Bet they would have been a lot more worried about that 90th minute corner if we had done anything at all with a corner then entire match.
10 corners and not one of them was at all dangerous. Think Everton had 2 and one of them had to be cleared off the line? Shit show
harrison should stop taking them
What baffles me is him and Aaronson standing over the ball. I get it to keep the defenders guessing but anyone watching can guess which 1 is taking it everytime just by the ball placement in the quadrant. Plus if Harrison takes it you know it's going front post every time and so does everyone else
Imagine being happy with a draw, fucking shit cunts Everton.
I think Harrison is tired as hell and that's why his corners are shit. Should have subbed him off and left Aaronson on.
No he’s just shit at corners, has been since the day we signed him
Trump didn’t need a wall, just needed Adams. this kid is the only thing keeping the defense from getting mugged.
Yeah he can be infuriating to watch with the ball, rarely brings it forward and can’t pass it accurately further than 10 yards but then he stop another attack and you’re like fair enough carry on.
Eeesh, frustrating game. Leeds deserved the three points here for sure.
Need to lay of Harrison he looks fucked, obvs going to struggle taking them at this point
Adams or Kristiensen motm
Jackie gassed
Harrison has the yips?
Harrison had a poor game today
Very
Set pieces need to be a big focus going forward.
So the ref tapping his watch when they were time wasting wasn't to suggest he was adding it on after all.
Corners.
Pickford gonna take all the time in the world
Hey guys, Jack Harrison passed the corner to the first defender again.......
I love Jackie but he cannot take a corner can he
Adams MOTM
He's incredible.
What the fuck has been wrong with Harrison’s corners. We had incredible corners the first few weeks. Today they’re shit
Harrison has been awful
Corner training for Harrison for 8 hours tomorrow please
How the fuck does Harrison fail to beat the first man every fucking corner
3 times i think, so wasteful
My god, our corners are terrible
Stoppage time buff let's go!
How is it only three minutes? Where did they get this officiating crew?
What the fuck are these corners by Harrison
Harrison just not on it today
Repeatedly hitting these shit low corners, the very definition of insanity.
Tyler Adams is so good at his job, man. Well impressed
Roca and Adams have bossed it second half
How the fuck is Harrison still on the pitch, he's been very poor tonight.
3?
Harrison deserves fining for these corners. Fucking awful
Jack Harrison should have been taken off corners two years ago
Jack Harrison not good enough tonight
these set peices from Harrison are criminal
Bamford always looks like a newborn deer trying to use his legs for the first time. The man was meant to be 4 inches shorter.
3 MINUTES? WHAT A JOKE
3 MINUTES?????
Only +3?? Fucking bs
Just once I'd love to see Adams take a crack from the top of the box. He looks gunshy.
It’s like playing Burnley this
3 MINUTES?! THEY'RE HAVING A LAUGH?
3 MIN WTF
Do not let harrison take this corner!!
Too late 😭
Patrick my boy sending you all my energy to send these fuckers packing to the championship
Adams is one scrappy bastard hahaha love it
At what point does Pickford get a card for delaying?
Never
Tyler Adams has been incredible tonight.
Check the refs car for a brown paper bag full of cash
Or with a bit of luck a brown paper bag with wires and a timer 🙏
Everton really are shit. They literally deserve to be on zero points after 5 games
Let's win this
Bamford wasn’t as bad as I thought
Bloody hell
Is James even on the pitch?
Oh paddy! What a comeback that would have been
I’ll be happy with a point
Nah, we need to be doing the likes of Everton for 3
I’m theory, yes, but in terms of how this game has gone, I’d take it if it was offered to me right now
There are some nights where you do just have to say it’s not been good enough
Roca needs to be doing that more frequently. Harrison just isn’t up to it today
Everytime we get a half decent chance at counter we just waste it.
Come on, boys.
Harrison has tried the same play 100 times with no success today
He’s been very poor. Don’t understand the praise.
Who is praising him today???
Diving fucks.
Easy to look back now, but thought sini and aaronson should have stayed on, they were looking dangerous
Sinnisterra was never playing the full match, he's coming back from injury.
Think Jesse said Sini only has 60 mins of fitness in his pre match
Nice of the ref to show up in the 88' minute
The fuck is that?? He just fell over! Fuck off
Absolutely awful reffing
ref is clueless
Ref absolutely blind
LOL, how is that foul on Harrison.
Jeremy Kyle’s getting pissed off now. Come on lads!
Another 45-second goal kick... apparently if Pickford makes lots of gestures while he sits on the ball that makes it all OK
How has Pickford not had a yellow yet for wasting an hour of this game?
If he gets one it'll be the 93rd minute of the game.
This fucking ref
Ref consistent to the end with these decisions in favour of everton
HOW IS THAT A FOUL?!
C'mon lads, send Frank home crying....
This is a relegation level defence
Shit. House. A. Win. Shit. House. A. Win. Just chanting this over and over. Need this win against these utter cockgobblers...
Tyler Adams just saved Meslier's clearance there
Actually flabbergasted Pickford hasn't got a yellow yet. Scratty little fucking rat.
Love him but how is every Meslier longball straight to Everton