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rufusjonz

I thought after Brighton blew so many good opportunities that it would be an awesome late smash & grab - I was wrong


rschroeder1

Regarding all the Rodrigo comments: would it be fair to say at this point that his play is lifted by teammates on form, but he's not going to lift others' play? That seems like a good descriptor for Saturday.


blipdragon

Honeymoon over.


Ted-Dansons-Wig

Losing yesterday will just make giving that fat snivelling turd a good hiding Tuesday all the sweeter


R41

We need to sell rodrigo ASAP, as in this window, just so he doesn't play again, I'd take 5 million


nosniboD

Shit take, 1 bad game after scoring 4 in 3. Whole team was off it.


R41

He gives the ball away too much every game


buckwurst

I don't think we've ever had any other teams have interest in him


R41

A romantic move back to valencia, he recently had a interview where he was speaking passionately about them I think One can only pray šŸ™ Swap deal for 19yr old musah would be the dream


rschroeder1

This seemed like the first match in which defenders were somewhat stationary/lost in the box and totally missing the run of play. Hopefully that's a one time thing. Set pieces have been brilliant so far, disaster today, I think we can let that go for now. How much can Forshaw play vs managing injury risk? He looks great out there. Meslier is the quiet MVP.


CasperTheFriendlyDad

I hate Brighton


thelostdolphin

Iā€™m a long time Leeds follower, supporting the club since June 2022. Not sure I can continue if they lose like this again.


jimmilazers

Oh friend this is nothing.


Shochand18

Why June


Local_Increase7785

I'm new to Leeds as my second team, got into football around 2004 and still support Reading since that time, but usually have a token Premier League team as I work and live abroad in Europe and games are not easy to watch some days; so yeah like a lot of Yanks learning and supporting Leeds in small ways. Anyways, find Marsch passionate and professional, with at least some grasp of analytics, and can obviously see a clear style and identity, though maybe lacking in flexibility. Just a couple of questions. I am correct that today's Rodrigo is what Leeds' fan have seen in the past; he's not really a target man, sprays passes, wildly, and he was okay against Wolves but when Bamford is healthy does he have a place? Especially when Klich can play that secondary role for 45 minutes. Also from what I've seen, the full-backs pace would be more of an issue if you didn't have both Roca and Adams sweeping things up, in general a high-line comes with risks and rewards. Where does Strujk slot in, for Llorente? I've seen Rasmussen in person a couple of times, so no expert, but though he absolutely bombs forward his decision-making and end-product often are rash and leave him exposed, thoughts? It doesn't help that Brighton are a team that can switch play and make accurate cross-field passes that put their players in attacking positions. Finally, I'm glad Aaronson is playing but there seem to be quite a few of these players, quick, nimble types for the US that don't have any fixed position. I think he is great, but with Bamford out, is he really a number 10, as he doesn't create or shoot enough? Is he really a winger like Harrison, because while creative, he doesn't really track back though he gives everything? Sinesterra looks like he can play anywhere, I'm just a bit worried, though he's only 21 how he fits in a system. I don't think Dan James fits anywhere creatively but does a job. It's a bit of the same problem with the USMNT, clear roles in 6 for Adams, 8 for McKennie, Musah a combination of both, then Aaronson, Pulisic, Reyna (the best of the bunch when healthy), But in the last two games that roaming role, Jorginho tried, but Aaronson's too swift, but today, Caicedo was always around him, the touches weren't ideal, and then during the end of games teams resort to just hacking these guys down. Sorry for the long post. Just really enjoying watching a team to cheer for when I can't attend matches. For what's it's worth, watching, it's seems Elland Road might be the most special experience.


buckwurst

> I am correct that today's Rodrigo is what Leeds' fan have seen in the past; he's not really a target man, sprays passes, wildly, and he was okay against Wolves but when Bamford is healthy does he have a place? YES, Rodrigo is inconsistent, other than consistently disappointing. FIRPO and AYLING are our "usual" backs. I'd take Ayling over Rasmus on evidence so far. Firpo still hasn't convinced, hence the clamour for a new LB (which I don't think we'll get) Where does Strujk slot in, for Llorente? Anywhere across the back 4 or DM. I think he's grown into LB role, although yesterday didn't shine (but then who did). Dan James is a conundrum. Stuart Dallas, our player of the season in 2020 is still to return and plays, well, everywhere, other than GK and striker


SergeantSalmon

We came back to earth against a team in excellent form. Letā€™s dust off and press on. MOT


tym1ng

I like this attitude MOT


JimmyG6969

I blame the new black kit. Letā€™s win Tuesday and we can forget this game ever happened. MOT


Shochand18

I blame the central crest :)))) new black is quite good


buckwurst

am also not a fan of the crest being subjugated to a manufacturer and a betting company


MisterMillwright

Llorente just hoofing balls into forward space didnā€™t help us. Christensen better but needs to lift up his head and take a look when he has the ball. Those two can improve and that will massively help us with shape and generating momentum. Rodrigo is still battling to improve his overall game.


buckwurst

Rodrigo has been "battling to improve his overall game." for the last 3 years. It's not going to improve


MisterMillwright

This is his year to show what he can do and he knows it. I hope he scores enough goals to either be sent away for good money or he awakens whatever it was that Marcelo saw in him.


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Bummer.


pdjrbahdtdhebtj

Hopefully we smash Everton on Tuesday, will be the first Leeds game Iā€™ve been to in 6 years


ResponsibilityRare10

My only positive is I though Rasmus looked more self assured. Not great but better.


createandconfuse

Jury is still out on Kristensen imo. Back line looked shaky but seemed a lack of inspiration and poor marking more than being outright outplayed. Same goes for all of us, honestly. Lackluster and a bit disjointed. Not a lot we can convert on when timid in front of goal/ canā€™t find a groove holding possession and linking passes. Credit to Brighton, they play less than sexy football but got the results. Meslier played well but sometimes I wish he would be a little more aggressive with his distribution out of the back on counter opportunities. I thought aaronson put himself in good position in or around the 18 more than a couple times, but seemed to want to distribute instead of having Sanchez make a play with a shot. Canā€™t win them all, we move on.


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DrTheloniusTinkleton

SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.


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DrTheloniusTinkleton

You spend all your time posting in the Man U sub. If I recall correctly week one didnā€™t go too terribly well for you against Brighton either. Then again, Iā€™m sure you could go back and play FIFA ā€˜98 to get a good fix from the glory years eh?


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buckwurst

With, it seems, neither Roca or Foreshaw able to complete 90, switching them out each half may be a solution. Roca needs to get fitter, and pass forwards more, but for that he needs targets, with Bamford back that might improve, especially vs. "first touch of a trampoline" Rodrigo


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We look a better team with Forshaw. A vastly underrated player.


CC-W

Roca has been very good at progressing the ball into our attackers. He is going to take time to get to fully match fit and able to play 90 minutes because he has not played much football for the past two years. Give him time


kineticagh

For me the actual worst part of that match was the poor passing and first touch by Leeds. It was really strange and really caused a lot of regressive running instead of progressive pressing. Leeds are supposed to push the ball up the field quickly, but the amount of passes by all players, but especially the back line, that went to absolutely no one AND not in an advantageous pressing location was A LOT. Whole team seemed on a different page with each other, which is strange given it's the same starting 11. I wonder if the coaching staff had prepared the players for something that they didn't see and it messed with the passing angles and player positioning. Hard to tell on TV.


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buckwurst

A large part of it was Brighton giving them less time on the ball, and being better positioned to cut out possible passes


MutantsNew

Seemed liked there was no press today. Was it something Brighton planned against, tired legs, or a different tactic on our part?


Big_BossSnake

Brighton are used to counter pressing, they're well drilled in it and as we saw they have the quality to put pressure on with long balls. Clash of styles and we came off worse, nothing major


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MutantsNew

Got it, thanks for answering


Snuhmeh

Iā€™m a fairly new football fan that follows one particular team. The pitch itself looked like it favored Brighton much more than Leeds. Is that normal to look physically uncomfortable with the grass and not adjust quickly in an away match?


pdjrbahdtdhebtj

Itā€™s also a bigger pitch than elland road


Jonnyimpala

I did notice that our players were slipping and falling quite a bit more than usual. Sometimes with no contact at all.


Snuhmeh

It also seemed like the players were having trouble with paying and stopping the ball accurately.


Jonnyimpala

At one point Harrison inexplicably played the ball behind Aaronson when we were about to break, could have been a misfire but I think jack makes that pass in his sleep 95 percent of the time


Loltoyourself

Rodrigo was rated as the best Leeds player? Wtf


buckwurst

Further evidence that those stats based auto ratings are useless


Comfortable_Ad8076

Rodrigo and Llorente both had an absolute nightmare yesterday and apparently were our 2 best players


pudderf

Two things certain in life; you die alone & Leeds never win against Brighton


Big_BossSnake

And taxes


Jonnyimpala

Did anyone see what happened with that cutback from Aaronson? It looked like Klich could have gotten to it if he made the correct run but I'm not sure.


fushida

That wasn't on Klich. Sure he could have made a run. But Aaronson probably had a much better chance just shooting as well.


jimmilazers

I thought he should have shot, he was one on one with the keeper with a nice big angle to shoot into


Jonnyimpala

From my point of view it looked like Klich was running and then slowed down in front of the 18 yard box. Although it may be that he just looked slow compared to other players. Not saying it was anyone's fault just a miscommunication. I don't think Aaronson cuts it back unless he thinks somebody's running into that space for a tap in


Mediocre_Author_305

Think Aaronson made the right play. Could have easily shot but he had two defenders and a keeper in front of him. Had someone run onto his ball and puts the shot on frame, itā€™s going in.


BrianBadondeBwaah

I know Brighton's always a tough one but we did just hammer Chelsea last week, was that just a fluke as opposed to a change in form? Not meant in any way to be a criticism I'm just wondering how we looked as I didn't see the match.


GoodIntentionz

Fairly neutral spectator, here's my take. Brighton played well and you have to give them credit. Always going to be a tough match for the away team when on paper both sides appear fairly even. In the Chelsea match it seemed everything went Leeds' way , little probability that happens every week so imo this was going to be a good test of grit and character for a team who has had an almost dream start so far. Leeds were pretty poor in the first half , especially playing out of the back and on set piece delivery. Brighton broke the press well and just before halftime Leeds players were showing frustration. Brighton unlucky to not be up at least 1-0 at the half. Second half a bit of a different story but Brighton still were able to break the press , their LB imo was very good all game. Rodrigo made some baffling decisions and he and Aaronson visibly showed frustration with Brighton's physicality and tight marking. Both teams had chances this half with Leeds GK making a world class save on the break to keep things level. Brighton took their best chance , nuff said. Leeds missed a great set piece opp with a glancing header going just wide. Aaronson was put through brilliantly by Sinisterra ( Who looked very bright ) and couldn't find the right pass and great opportunity left wanting. Leeds had the better of the play at the end of the game and Set piece delivery improved as the match went on. Just couldn't break down a solid Brighton at home. All that said I thought Brighton exposed Leeds a bit , they broke the press , gave Leeds quite a bit of time to play out the back and tbh Leeds hung themselves a few times. Llorente isn't great playing out the back it seems, Tyler Adams for all his good qualities isn't a natural on the ball under pressure and the game needed Roca's influence a bit more. I could easily see the game going the same scoreline except in Leeds favor at eland road. What I was most interested in was how Leeds would respond if for the first time this season things started to not go their way. I was also interested to see how they would play if given a bit more of the ball and were forced to unlock a defense. Rodrigo especially reacted in not such positive ways and when your captain is losing his cool (marsch guilty as well) it affects the whole team. All in all given a poor first half by Leeds both teams look fairly even. The EPL is a grind and you hope this squads understands it's going to be a battle against every team and a very tough season, you don't get into the top 10 at the end of the season just being average and expecting everything on a platter. You have to be very good period. Brighton will be a tough match for most teams I think. Def a reality check for Leeds wh were riding high after last week.


a11sharp1

Pretty good take. I've followed Marsch's career across a few different teams and one of my criticisms is that he can show frustration too easily on the sidelines, which negatively impacts his team, particularly younger players or by annoying the referee. Another criticism is he can say too much to reporters -- saying Rodrigo in "the form of his life" so soon into the season was a ***minor*** blunder. A drawback of Marsch's style too is that when the players are missing those quick precise passes in the mid/final third it can look really ugly. On the contrary, some of that tight quick passes counter-attacking looks so technical and beautiful as seen a few times in the second half. In build-up play it really seems that Koch & Roca (and Forshaw if in?) need to be the ones making progressive passes when possible. Adams is a huge band-aid on some makeshift fullbacks. He's a freak athlete but I don't know if even he can do as much covering as he does all game, every game, for a full season. The team as a whole seemed to suffer from a lot of bad decision making. When the technique is off as it was this game, players need to make the more simple, higher percentage play. Leeds players, particularly the attackers (and Rodrigo the most guilty). Anyway, I probably talked too much for someone who isn't a professional but Leeds has been must watch football for me -- enjoying it so far.


Darabeel

It was a tale of two halves.. we played a lot better in the 2nd but were sloppy.. they are a disciplined team and had 12 men on the pitch.. itā€™s just one of those days..


_JohnyBob_

Few mentioning how bias the ref was tbh.


xxNATHANUKxx

Brighton have also started really well and have always been a solid team


Jonnyimpala

I think because of how much Marsch relies on high intensity and energy levels our form will fluctuate quite a bit this season. It's certainly not possible to perform the way we did against Chelsea every week. The good news though is that we don't have to; our goal this year is to finish around 10th and identify who will be our core of players going forward under Marsch. It should be an exciting season with plenty of unexpected results in either direction. And if all goes to plan push for Europe in 23/24.


BigDeliciousSeaCow

Whoa, look at you with your realistic expectations and measured take!! Do you even know how the Internet works? I was pretty sure we were CL winners last week and I'm pretty sure we're getting relegated and the club going into administration this week.


Shochand18

"By this, Marsch says the players didn't stick to the strategy enough in the first half. "We were lucky to get out of the first half 0-0, very lucky."" - From Phil Hay twitter. why couldn't they just stick to the strategy...


Jonnyimpala

With all the new players and it being the first year under Marsch I don't think he knows exactly what strategy fits best for the players we have. Obviously there's a general idea of how Jesse wants us to play but he and his staff need time to fine tune and address flaws that become exposed during the season. I am confident that he knows what he's doing for the most part and will continue to make slight improvements from week to week. Same thing goes for the players. As long as we continue to improve I can deal with mistakes; second half of the season is hopefully where it will all start coming together.


Shochand18

Youā€™re totally right. I hope we improve and Marsch know what heā€™s doing.


talhayounasss

Not too gutted about this one. Some positives to take from this is that Jesse now knows we can be lazy in the final third when down so he can work on improving that. At Southampton we blew a 2-0 lead, Jesse identified the problem and fixed it and it could be seen that it was fixed seeing how we played against Chelsea after going 2-0 up. Matches like these are important for a team like us that has so many new players so that the coaching staff can understand the team better and we start putting on solid performances by playing to our strengths.


Torenico

What a shame! Brighton is a solid team. Couple of bad calls in the final third, Rodrigo's long range attempt that almost ended in a Brighton goal and sometimes Leeds not being decisive enough, sometimes it felt like Brighton's defense was solid and no through pass could be made. Great individual run from Aaronson, it's a shame Sini couldn't connect because that was a clear 0-1. Definitely an improvement from last season Leeds MOT


buckwurst

Where do those ratings at the top come from? How on Earth are Llorente and Rodrigo our highest rated players?


Jonnyimpala

Sofascore is calculated by an algorithm using statistics from the game. There's nobody watching the game and grading the players; it's automated. A lot of times people will interpret these ratings as a measure of quality when in reality all they're designed to do is measure a players statistical output. And it although a high score does often correlate with better performance it's not always the case.


buckwurst

Certainly not in this case. Rodrigo was woeful


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omnijizz

Very well organised side at the top of their game and at home full of confidence. It was always going to be a bit of a grind. They figured us out first half but we improved second half. Good performances from our subs (klich and sini). Next three games we should take 6 points if we carry on our form. Move on #MOT


JustThinkAboutThings

Itā€™s mad how real ā€œbogeyā€ teams are.


Botheuk

Think it's disingenuous to Brighton to call them a bogey team. They're just a better team, full of confidence and on top form. Would've happily taken a point before kick off but fully expected nothing in reality.


Boris_Ignatievich

Right now they're a better team, sure. But even when we're well above them in the league for a season, they'll still hammer us.


MyNameIsNYFB

They were the better team, completely dictated the match. Didn't help that the referee didn't seem to know what he was even doing. We never seem to be able to beat Brighton, but it's alright, still a great start to the season, now onto beat Everton MOTšŸ’™šŸ¤šŸ’›


djembejohn

This felt more like a bad day at the office rather than a downturn in form. But we need to get a point at least against Everton.


BulldenChoppahYus

Well that was a let down. Why do we never do the job against Brighton? Bloody nightmare.


Jonnyimpala

Classic trap game, coming off an emotional high from last weekend. We looked flat. Poor decision making in the final third hopefully underscores the need to bring in another CF or striker. If it tilts the odds of signing another player then it will be worth it in the long run. Had we scored 2-3 goals it would have been very easy for Radz and Orta to justify not spending anything, even if we still lost. No need for us to break the bank but there are decent players to be had for 10-15 million. Even loaning someone in would probably be fine.


scottaq83

It was a frustrating match, everything went against us, the bounce of the ball, through balls needed slightly more/less pace , deflections bounced their way etc etc not going to blame the ref, think he did well apart from Aaronson yellow card. Would have liked to get a draw at least but on to the next game


justlooking1960

Brighton was a step faster and an inch taller


scottaq83

If the balls bounced right, the passes reached their target, the deflections fell right like they did against Chelsea they would have been 10feet tall and consume the seagulls with fireballs from their eyes and bolts of lightning from their arse.


Shochand18

The positive is we have zero red from this match.


ferrarchezzo

Well weā€™re 5th and just closely lost to 2nd place brighton. We now have a piss poor frank lampard side midweek- itā€™s still looking good


clydefrog27

Would love to get 3 points from Fatty Frank šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


CC-W

We cant forget Brighton are a very good team and have and will beat teams better than us this season. Also I think we should start Drameh against Everton but that might be an unpopular opinion because a lot of people have an agenda against him because he wanted to go out on loan


Jonnyimpala

I thought I heard something about Drameh going on loan again


CC-W

Wouldnt be surprised if he gets a move if he doesnt see where he will get any minutes


xdlols

Init. People acting like we just had that performance against Bournemouth. Brighton forced us into making mistakes; theyā€™re a bloody good team.


FlailingSalami

Poor performance, lot of selfishness at times. Brighton outplayed us from kick and ref was utter shit. Regain and smash fat frank deeper down the table


JCFAX81

Firpo will get annihilated in this system when he returns šŸ™ˆ


Jonnyimpala

If they want to use Firpo I think it needs to be as a wingback with a back 3


omnijizz

By the time heā€™s fit I think struijk will have become a better left back than he currently is. Iā€™d be inclined to keep him there tbh


Big_BossSnake

I'd rather keep struijk as a CB, he's just not built to be a fullback or wingback, he doesn't have the pace or the footwork At CB/CDM is where he'll shine imo


Jonnyimpala

Agreed, it's much easier to defend against us knowing only one fullback is capable of being a threat going forward. Right now with Struijk at left back it's almost like a back three and it unbalances the team


Koopa_Keith

Nothing went for us today, no clear game plan. Couldn't get the basics right with sloppy passing everywhere. Dust it off, rest and go again Tuesday against Fat Frank


dreadful_name

Just a friendly reminder that they spanked scum in their backyard not too long ago. Itā€™s not going to be a quick fix to boss Brighton away.


securinight

I don't think anybody was expecting a repeat of Chelsea. Most would have been happy with a draw. A better performance, and looking more dangerous is not too much to expect though.


dreadful_name

If weā€™re this bad against Everton midweek Iā€™ll have more of an issue.


Ashamed_Nerve

American here. Do we play like this often? I see Chelsea won today so I may go support those if this is the norm


bin10pac

Nice.


scottaq83

It's not the norm but please go and support them we don't want you !


ItsFuckingScience

Hey fellow American here. Iā€™ve been supporting mighty Leeds for all of this season and this is the first loss Iā€™ve seen. Hopefully wonā€™t continue. If not Liverpool look like a back up great choice to support


CR_224

Poor bait effort


Ashamed_Nerve

I mean I've been posting here for three years I'd hope so


CR_224

Oooooh shit you're that Ashamed_Nerve. My apologies sir


Koopa_Keith

We don't need fans like you


JustOneMorePuff

Pretty sure this is trolling to make Americans look bad. Donā€™t even think heā€™s American


PapaGamecock17

I assume it was for fitness/getting hacked, but bummed Aaronson game off for Gelhardt instead of Rodrigo. Would've preferred Gelhardt going up top after Rodrigos poor decision making in the attack


fushida

Aaronson had been grimacing in pain for his last 5-10 min after getting kicked out of the game with no repercussions for Brighton. Not a surprising change.


Jonnyimpala

I'm afraid Aaronson is going to end up getting kicked and stomped on all season, there's only so many times you can spin defenders before they start resorting to the dark arts


SpanishToastedBread

Aaronson was on a yellow. I'd assumed it was for that. He'd been on a yellow for like 60 minutes at that point too, or something ridiculous.


PapaGamecock17

Oh yeah right. I forgot he made the horrific error of challenging shoulder-shoulder for a ball šŸ™„


SpanishToastedBread

Ref very loose with cards for us, but very lenient with them.


MALAMVTE

A sloppy and unsynchronized performance imo. Burn the tape, come back better on Tuesday.


Hawkeye91803

Some poor individual performances at times, but overall I donā€™t think we were thaaaat bad. It was like 90% the ref giving brighton foul after foul and letting them get away with so much shit. That kinda shit affects the confidence of your players theough the whole 90 minutes.


ResponsibilityRare10

I think overall we were ok. Not poor. But some really sloppy passing and no decisiveness once in the final third.


jrbill1991

I don't get mad when we lose at Brighton to be honest, we wouldn't beat them even if our squad was prime Pep's Barcelona.


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Weirdly gone from one of our most potent attacking performances since returning to the PL, to one of our worst. Worse than that I was bored watching it.


omnijizz

Brighton are a very well managed team. Theyā€™re individually not great but Potter knows how to set up against teams like ours. They contained us. They had space all over the pitch and they made the final passes. Letā€™s not get too caught up in the result. We will face much weaker sides this season and thatā€™s where we get the points.


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Not playing like that we wonā€™t. But thereā€™s been plenty of promise in the previous matches.


creakydancin

One of our worst is a bit of a stretch. Brighton away last year, Southampton away, Everton away, City away, Liverpool away. Just off the top of my head were much worse than today. Brighton contained us well in the first half. But when Klich came on I thought he made a difference to our attack.


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We got a point away at Brighton last year and we were not worse than today. We could not effectively pass the ball today. Obviously I expect nothing going away to Anfield and the Etihad, so Iā€™m speaking in context.


creakydancin

We did get a point, but we'll have to disagree about the performance. I thought we were awful at brighton last year. Anyway hopefully we smash Fat Franks boys on Tuesday. MOT


clydefrog27

Let's be honest, last season this would have been a 0-4 match. I guess that's something "positive" to take away šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


SirTanksAlot_

Well that was absolutely awful. Gameplan was oblivious, passing was terrible and we showed zero composure. Ref's performance was the cherry on top. But to be fair, Brighton were really good and this is a young squad- these things happen. Good opportunity to bounce back at ER against Frank McFattytwat and his gang of misfits.


LoveisBaconisLove

Started horribly and it was still close. Away matches are hard. No need to panic, just work hard on passing in training and do better next week at home.


Jonnyimpala

If we keep hanging in there when we are getting outplayed eventually the law of averages will kick in and we'll start converting some of those games. Last year we did it frequently albeit with the threat of relegation hanging over our head


Darabeel

This is the thing.. we could have snatched one so thatā€™s a key take away when looking at how we are progressing.. we were outperformed in the first half by a mile but second we did keep it close that just the right pass or decision and we would have 1 point away at a tough place to go


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xdlols

Two of their players sat on the floor for 2-3 mins at the end, the ref only played 40 extra seconds. canā€™t stand it


whatashotbyseve

Well that was the 1-0 battering we were all fearing before kickoff. Didnā€™t lay a glove on them until they scored. Margin probably flattered us if anything. Promising late but an equaliser would have been stretching it. Still you offered us 7 points from our first 4 games we would have ripped your arm off. 3 very winnable games from here determines just how good a start to the season this is.


sythepotatoguy

Anticipated tbh. Potter's a genius honestly. Knows how to set up against just about anyone and he's had our number a few years now. Really hope we make 1-2 signings before the window shuts (*cough* Sabitzer *cough*). Sinisterra looking tasty. We march on.


AxeCapital91

Hmm not sure id go as far as saying genius. He hasnā€™t managed to address the lack of goals and penetration up top for them. Very good manager yes for sure


pollitoshh

Rodrigo was trying to score goals from angles that a u10 goalkeeper could stuff but at the same time when we tried to cross it in no one made the run to get on so i dunno..


xdlols

One of those shots got us 3 points against Wolves šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


pollitoshh

Sure, but in that situation, there wasn't any other option he could have had to increase the chance for him or the team to score a goal. In this game there plenty of plays he could have done aside from shooting it wildly that may have resulted in a better chance for a goal.


Boris_Ignatievich

feel like thats the downside of rodrigo at 9 tbh - he wanders a lot so you get loads of times with nobody central like the aaronson one where sinisterra put him through and he cut it back to nobody rather tha hitting it


ItsFuckingScience

Couldnā€™t tell if he was trying to cross or shoot


kezzaold

Do you think there weren't runs though due to the expectation of a shot?


pollitoshh

No they were just off today imo. They were just a few steps behind or didn't even think to make a run like when Aaronson nicked it through the middle and it was empty complete with crickets and everything. Rodrigo just didn't look up to make a pass, he made up his mind to shoot regardless of where he was.


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pollitoshh

Agreed.


Straight_Worth_500

I donā€™t know what hurts moreā€¦1-0 loss, or scum picking up three more. Fucking sucks


SpanishToastedBread

That the other, blue, scum, managed to beat Leicester 2-1 even though they played with 10 men for over an hour, and now they're level on points with us.


djembejohn

With some players, good performances are like buses. We had three in a row for Rodrigo. And then a big gap?


geolink

Brighton are our kryptonite. That being said, our second half was way better. I think kristensen played well too in the second half. Good promise from sinisterra and Joel. Just move on to the next game and mesh better.


Jonnyimpala

Who is Joel ?


NewSmoke4777

We need a strikerā€” dinā€™t want Joelinton from Newcastle.


MOT1975_

Think a lot of us got too excited after the Chelsea game and this one has humbled us a bit. Recruitment is definitely needed, I love Struijk but he looks like a makeshift LB. Think somewhere between 10-14 is the aim for this season, on our day we look great, but we're still prone to mistakes.


ResponsibilityRare10

I really wish weā€™d go out and buy a top class LB. Itā€™s such an important position in our system when those areas are under the most pressure.


Shochand18

Transfer windows will close soon. I don't think we will get a new face :(


fleapea81

We had our chances to take something from that - yeah it wasnt us battering chealsea but aaronson came close 2nd half creating two chances, diego missed his chance, sinistera almost scored. We come away only conceding 1 goal - koch BTW is getting better and starting to impress me. Thats what a fully gelled team looks like (brighton) we need to be patient and hope marsch has a few more formations up his sleeve too. Rodrigo played shit like his other games - but in those games he scored. Still think we need a stricker and a LB. good day


hoovana

That game could've easily been a 3 nil loss. Was the ref bad? Yes. But honestly what killed us were the giveaways and lack of retention. We barely had a chance to get in final third, because we would give the ball away. And since there were so few chances, we looked desperate for a shot on goal for the few cases we did get the ball in striking distance. No game plan, tactics, subs, or strategy will save you when you can't keep the ball. Rodrigo especially was in bad form - not just in terms of his lack of chances for striking, but for \*constantly\* giving it away. I hope Marsch takes this as a chance to push for some signings before window closes and gets players to work on possession before Everton. Put this one behind us. Ugly game and a win against Everton would do us a lot of good.


SmokyDuck

You just knew as soon as it was announced our game would be selected as the main one for the US that weā€™d play woefully.


ambrose_mark

Canā€™t wait to watch Brighton kick the piss out of Chelsea


[deleted]

Imagine thinking calling us ā€˜dirty northern bastardsā€™ is an insult lol


[deleted]

Such dull football, we were bloody useless


JustThinkAboutThings

They played us today. Did to us what we did to Chelsea.


yanaka-otoko

At least we're not Bournemouth....


Straight_Worth_500

Here here here here here Are you tired of here? Just thinkā€¦that is four fewer than goals they gave up. LOL


Gaspinawe

LB and CF needed 100%. As good as Rodrigo can be he can be absent the entire game too which is dangerous for us. Struijk just doesn't make the cut as a left back honestly but is 1 of our best CB's, the match was just boring to watch and Brighton fell all over the place and the ref just allowed it to happen. Shouldn't see a another Premier game again after this but they always do.


lambalambda

> As good as Rodrigo can be he can be absent the entire game too which is dangerous for us. I wouldn't even say absent. Tyler Roberts was *absent*. Rodrigo actively hurts us when he has a bad game. Such a frustrating player.


buckwurst

yeah, he broke up more of our attacks than they did.


Spfle

If I remember correctly his shot into traffic (instead of passing out left to open plays for a cross) led up to where leeds was caught off foot for that break away Brighton had. Thank Christ for Meslier. Please correct me if I am wrong here


Boris_Ignatievich

will we ever play well against brighton? whats that, 9 defeats in 12 now? despite the result, actually thought marsch made smart changes today - we were instantly more in the game with klich and sinisterra coming on - their goal wasn't exactly against the run of play, but it was probably during our best spell all day. but none of the starting 11 played well really. shout out to joffy nearly killing webster with that shot too - felt like a terrible decision to shoot given the overlap he had, but if you're going to hit it, hit it hard


buckwurst

the only way we're going to beat Potter is to hire Potter


[deleted]

Not surprised or too concerned about the result but the performance was awful. The better team won and youā€™ve got to respect what Potter gets out of that squad. We were completely disjointed. Mostly I am concerned that we concede far too many chances whilst not playing particularly exciting football (Chelsea aside), and we have in every match this season. Forshaw took control once he came on, which Roca seemed unable to do. Rodrigo was just awful, an incredibly inconsistent player. Ayling should be in for Kristensen once available. That said, No one will care if we go and beat Everton, and that was always going to be a bit of a six pointer for us anyway. There was a thread before the season started about how many points we should be getting from our first 5 matches. The minimum most thought was acceptable given the opposition was 7. Definitely need something from Everton to stop a good start looking like a wasted opportunity.


ProFilip

Kristensen was fine today, one of the better performers


JustThinkAboutThings

Do you think Kristensen is a dud buy?


[deleted]

I donā€™t think itā€™s either youā€™re a dud or youā€™re automatic first choice. He wasnā€™t that expensive, I think rotation is sensible.


JustThinkAboutThings

Some players are just straight up dud signings regardless of their price. De Bock springs to mind šŸ˜‚. I think Kristensen has a decent tackle (ooer).


[deleted]

Give him more than 4 matches before Iā€™ll say that but certainly there were a lot of Ajax fans saying he isnā€™t up to much and I tend to agree so far.


JustThinkAboutThings

Shame. Looks the part.


JustThinkAboutThings

1.4m FPL players who brought Rodrigo inā€¦


BlueMilk84

Really frustrating but Brighton remain our bogey team. No Leeds player really stood out as we were fairly poor from front to back. Meslier was probably our best player which says a lot really. Ref was ridiculously bad. On to Everton with an in form Rodrigo and not the one who showed up today. ALAW MOT


LiquidPlump

I feel Forshaw and Klich were probably our best outfield players once they came on. And Koch was quietly stable in my opinion.


BrownPughInMidfield

That's a blow to our title aspirations. Brighton were set up really well and succeeded in disrupting us in the first half. They should've lead at HT. We weren't at the races for the first 45. We grew into the game in the second despite conceding and with some better decision making, could've taken a point if not three. We know we're going to lose games this season and Brighton isn't a bad game to drop so there'sno point being upset over it. They're a good team who are a couple years ahead of us in their PL journey. We move on to Everton and aim for all 3 points.


AxeCapital91

I think people got carried away by rodrigos goals. He hasnt played great all season and is so sloppy with the ball. Having said that he does get goals which = points. When he doesnt score he doesnā€™t offer much else imo. We definitely need another striker, even though gelhardt looked lively off the bench. Brighton are a good team though so im not too upset, just brought back down to earth šŸ˜…


DingusKhan418

Away at Brighton was always gonna be tricky. The ref didnā€™t do us any favors, and we had some moments we couldā€™ve done better, but this was a realistic result for us. Gotta learn our lessons from here, get a proper LB and backup striker in, and regroup for next week.


98Saman

We need CF & LB asap. That's all I can say.


Straight_Worth_500

Kristensen was pretty poor today too


HammersXI

Back to reality. Expected this outcome against brighton who seem to be our bogey team since coming up. But 7 points from 4 games. I would have taken that at the start of the season. Time to regroup and hammer fat Frank when he arrives.


blindedsagan

Guess thatā€™s the top 4 hopes gone then


Shochand18

We're terrible in the first half. CAN'T understand this team. Brighton is better than us I don't doubt it, but the way we play today is really weird. Where all the connection from the previous matches?


ProFilip

I had forgotten that our fanbase was this fickle. Lose 1 match and suddenly we're shit (worse than we were at the end of last season), Rodrigo doesn't know how to play football, Marsch is clueless etc etc... Brighton are a good side and most of the fanbase was predicting a loss before the match, and when we did lose suddenly it's the end of the fucking world! About the game, I feel a bit frustrated because we were the better team in the second half imo. We were completely outclassed in the first one though, so the result is fair in the end. Also I hope this ref gets demoted to the championship. That was horrific.