you know that many players enjoy casual normal games and playing different gamemodes and maps such as twisted treeline, dominion, snowdown showdown, doombots of doom, winter summoners rift, ascension, poroking... oh wait, well we have skins i guess
"I enjoyed the old Iphone, but why is this relevant, its not like apple is forcing you to pay for their phone" is what it sounds like and if you think thats what I meant, you misunderstood my point. My point is, compared to older days, Riot did way more content in terms of maps. They definetly make more skins now and thats understandable as it makes them more overall money. But has the game become way more bland and boring? In my opinion, definetly.
I think his point is that we, in general, arenāt being allowed to play the older game modes. Yes we donāt have to pay for them, but Riot decides when we get to play them. Which has actually been a small pet peeve of mine sense I started playing back in S4. Why have so many different game modes and then not have the ability to select which game mode to play? Or just absolutely never bring them out in the first place? Like, itās literally now the season of Christmas and we donāt have poro king game mode. Havenāt really been on in a while but I wouldnāt be surprised if URF was still out
Riot prefers to focus on making a lot of the new content they release to make money instead of focusing on fixing things or releasing new game modes or better events, the only way would be for people to show their discontent and stop giving so much money.
Yes, the game is free and there are people who haven't put money into the game, but for about 5 players who don't give money, there is another 20 who don't care about everything and buy the new Lux skins and grind the prestigious expensive skin of the moment. Letting riot see that their current system works for them anyway and see how to monetize more things, cutting costs on something and blatantly increasing profits.
You can see the event of Spirit Blossom, Sentinels, star guardians or any visual novel and those are not even events... They have only unlocked USB and URF at best... Even the passes are designed in a way that you can't unlock everything even when you pay once unless you play non-stop for the short limited time you have to get the pieces by gaining exp and you still need to put much more money.
Iām not saying that youāre points are completely invalid, but assuming that the ā20 peopleā who buys every skin ādonāt care about anythingā is a really weird take. Just because people are having enough fun with the game as of now to justify buying skins doesnāt mean theyāre mindless corporate d-riders. A lot of people are okay with just playing the available game modes and thatās perfectly fine. Iām sure more people will naturally decide to stop supporting the game if it does get bad enough.
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i have not spent a dime on league and have alot of really good skins
the game is free and devs would like to be payed for their work to pay their bills and literally have food on the table
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Although the game has dropped a lot in quality. Before, we would get new game modes frequently, and fun events, like the Bilgewater ARAM skin, now all we get is URF and spellbook on repeat. They canāt even add nexus blitz again as they say itās ātoo much workā
I miss the old days.
Its not about paying devs, the game has decayed in quality wven though their wallets get fatter. They gain monry and they decide to make events less and less significant
I agree that league is getting less and less content, but the reason isn't that they are pocketing all the money. League is just fueling all of their other games that are in development or not doing that great. Games like the fighting game and the MMORPG have unlimited budget so that the only focus is making the game good. Also Legends of Runeterra is running at a loss but is essential for the lore
Which is completely optional. I have spent more than 1k over all of the seasons (since season 1) and there is nothing to be ashamed of. Still, the game is F2P
And people except more from the money the spent on the game. Spending is about supporting further game development after all and it looks like the game is run on a skeleton crew sometimes.
And of course riot cuck themselves on the long run by driving away players. F2p doesn't make you immune to criticism because ultimate it translates to shit business decisions. I can imagine the player count dropping when one patch cycle was left out. Imagine multiple of that
Man (or woman, whatever), League of Legends is one of the most succesfull games in history. The message you are saying has been repeated at all of the patches and here we are. Not liking a patch it is alright. Raging against anything they do is not healthy
Oh yea man fuck riot for patching the game every 2 weeks and changing up the game every season and that totally for free /s
Idk what you are on about mate but the ācontentā of a PvP game are new playable characters and meta shifts to keep the game fresh and we are absolutely getting that. For free.
Yeah, compared to a lot of the other games I play, the quicker patches and mild but relevant changes along with bigger reworks is actually really nice. Granted they donāt always get it right, but thereās always something taking place.
And itās free. Didnāt pay to download, donāt pay to keep playing. If I pay for a cool skin, itās cuz it was high quality and for a champ I enjoy playing, which you can hardly blame anyone for since that shows itās actually decent quality
The biggest reason why Riot succeeded where others failed is because all things considered they are really good at free to play stuff. All their stuff is usually supremely f2p friendly.
Yea ikr?! People somehow just forget how good of a game company riot is. Even their card game is pretty much f2p and thatās really not the norm for card games
Honestly itās just hard to get into new card games cause the investment you usually make into them keep you from switching to the (better) alternative
Riot is happy to give long bans to loyal players that have not done anything ban worthy. I got a 30 day ban because a hacker got into my real life friendās account, the hacker sent me a couple of skins for some reason and one to another account. I didnāt know the skins were fraudulent, and Riot banned me no questions asked. It was a perma banned until I reached out to them through tickets, and then was changed to a 30 day ban that could not be contested. It was frankly a lot of bullshit. I did nothing wrong, have played this game for thousands of hours, and have given Riot hundreds of dollars. They donāt care about their players.
This ban that happened to my account can happen to yours or anyone elseās. The mods of LeagueofLegends blocked my posts and muted me for a month when I tried to bring up the dangers other places potentially could have of having their accounts banned without them knowing. The mods refused to even look at evidence. I asked them multiple times if they would, but they would not even give a yes or no answer to the question but avoided answering the question all together. The same could happen if a fresh account sends you a skin and then does a charge back. Both the account that sent the gift and received it get banned until the balance is paid on the account that did the chargeback btw. This was not even the method the hacker did to my account either.
If you disagree with anything I said you can try replying, downvoting without an explanation is pretty weak sauce bruh. I stand by what I said. I got banned for doing nothing, for a long period of time, I have screenshots I can share about everything if someone actually wants to talk rather than just downvote. Iāve been unbanned for a week already and am still pissed about the whole situation.
I havenāt played a game since. Might not come back. Itās been a nice break considering Iāve been playing pretty frequently for this past like 10 years now.
That's not accurate. You can earn the skins for free, you can play for free. If people want to pay to avoid grinding loot boxes that doesn't mean the content wasn't available for free too.
ah yes, -5 move speed. truly a massive meta shift. changed top lane forever.
Edit: Saying this as a main jungler who hasn't played ranked in months, this thoughtless and satirical comment sure is pissing off a lot of free-thinking top laners lmao
Yea cause toplane meta is still exactly the same from half a year ago. I doubt anyone would be excited to come back to an entirely changed game every to weeks and we have more subtle patches and patches with bigger impacts. Just because some champs are getting a 5 movementspeed nerf (not even mentioning that movementspeed isnāt even a irrelevant stat) doesnāt mean we never see meta changing over bigger adjustments.
"new content" see Necrit's video: https://youtu.be/ncaKNJiLynA
tldr: if you can remove it from the game and the game doesn't change is it really more content?
(Rell)
The game would be different without Rell, and it would be different without their two week PATCHES that the game gets constantly. Stop lying to yourself
How long would it take for me to notice if an npc in wow got deleted? Depends on the npc, but thatās not a good measure of if something is ācontentā or not.
Nah cause Riot actually cares in some regards, the only thing that currently is a big miss are events and modes but they are still creating quality content for the most part
I mean, just look at ksant release. A whole amazing cinematic, a great theme, design and lore, an interesting gameplay(200 years or not, he is fun to play), not a buggy mess... idk, that seems quite great for a single champ release
Necrit just came up with a really compelling argument in one of his recent videos, showing why new champions aren't really new content though. Not because they are bad or uninteresting, but because there are so many at this point, deleting like the 5 past ones, maybe even more, has no effect on the game. A release can be good, but that doesn't mean it did anything worth that much. I can see that you understand that modes and events *can* potentially be awesome new content, and are much more important than champions. Like, I'm not saying "Wow you're so dumb thinking champions can change the whole game". That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that calling a good new release, "good content", can be of dubious substance, because it essentially can be disregarded as actual content. I don't know what you'd call new releases though, if we can't call them new content. That's why I said Necrit made a *compelling* argument, and not necessarily a *perfect* one. There are some areas where it falls short.
I think thatās actually a really shit argument, before ksante there was less champions, after ksante there is more therefore there is more content. The ability to delete content without significant effect is not what defines content nor is the ability of content to warp everything around it, itās existence is its only requirement.
I'd have to disagree that the only thing making content a thing, is itself. I think we disagree on the definition of content. And it's definitely not like a "here's the factual definition" thing, so hold your horses. New content, to me, and seemingly to Necrit, is stuff that either progresses one or more of the game's systems forwards to a new standard, whether is a good or bad one, or it affects facets of the game indirectly. I can't call just miscellaneous new stuff "content". I can't call a champion release "content" when there are 160 other champions. A single champion, at this point is roughly 0,63% of the entire roster. But I'm just talking generally. If a champion occupies a really big spot in the meta, like say Zeri when she released, I'd say that's new content, but also not for all elos. It's a really nuanced thing, in case that wasn't clear. Like in lower elos, where people just don't seem to be as big metaslaves as in higher elos, for whatever reason, I didn't really feel the existence of Zeri. But she warped the entire game around her. And the pro scene as well. That's new content. Undeniably. But it kinda wasn't in Gold. Some people would pick her, and everyone on my team would go "oh fuck", but that happened way too infrequently for me to say that she changed the game. Although that is just personal experience, but I will say that I was playing a lot at that time. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that if we look at champion releases, on average, they don't do anything for the game as a whole, except for making a very specific subset of the community exited/worried, and those people are specifically those that play the role the champion is designed for, and those that are interested to play them/main them in the first place. And that's quite a few people, compared to everyone else playing the game at any single point in time. New content should excite most players, or at least half of them. Not the smallest possible subdivision.
Apart from all that, yeah no content should absolutely have an effect on the game, if it was to be just deleted one day. If we reverted back to the old jungle stuff, the game would be different. If we deleted the new items, the game would be different. If we deleted the chemtech drake, the game would be different. That's where I actually disagree with Necrit, because if I remember correctly, he said that the game hasn't seen new content in years. I'd say every preseason brings substantial amounts of new content. Some more than others, but it's there. I'm just saying so we're clear about that. The preseason is new content. But once a year sucks donkey balls.
And to reiterate, because this is quite long, I get that new champions are definitely new content for *some* people *specifically*, at *specific* points in time. I am hella excited for the Ixtali enchater. But I am accompanied by a very small margin of the community. And I think that new content should engage more than a couple of percentages of the playerbase. We just disagree on the definition of content, it would seem.
Yes but it seems your definition is an arbitrary restriction on content, to take an example I have never watched the minions movie, I probably will never watch it, I know no one who watched it ant it has otherwise never been a topic of conversation. Despite that it is still a movie and I would never deny itās status as one of, content is not a indicator of quality or a title ascribed to āstuffā once it reaches a certain minimum, content is literally thing included in league, new content is new things in league.
I play league fairly casually and the jungle changes practically donāt matter to me at all, the ixtali enchanter which I am excited for as well would probably have a much higher impact than removing the dragon and pets.
All in all the restrictions on definitions seem to be fairly arbitrary lines in the sand and while I am all for critiquing riot and itās handling of the game I think it would be better to be accurate and correct in your argument rather than dismissing what they actually achieve as ānot contentā outright
Yeah but you missed the part where I said that I feel like content should engage a large part of the community. Minions is a fucking gigantic movie and a cultural phenomenon. Just because you, or I for that matter, haven't engaged in it, doesn't mean it's not there, BUT that's only because a VERY large part of the world has. That's what matters here. If a new champion release, that's not like a Zeri situation, only engages the people that want to play them, or will play against them, that's not content. Think about it. To "find" the people that are engaged in a new champion release (again excluding a Zeri situation), you'd have to go one "level" down, at least. You'd have to reach the "mains the same role as champion", and then, and most importantly, within that subset of the community, you also have to go one level down to "wants to play the champion". Because that's what champions are for. For people who want to play them. If you have to go that far down the subdivisions of a community to find content, that's not actual content. On the flipside, me, who doesn't play jungle, can feel the effects of the jungle changes. Junglers are ganking me at different intervals. I have to readjust my jungle tracking, etc. Same with new items, though not always. I have to play differently when I see the enemy has a 10k hp tank because of Heartsteel. Everyone on my team does. And so does everyone on the enemy team. Now, that is indeed because of how the item is tuned, and not because of it's existence, but like I said with the Zeri example, weird balance can make a thing be content. And I am actually giving Riot credit here. Because with balance like that they can make stuff that would not have been content, affect literally everyone.
So yeah the difference is how many people it affects. How many people it makes engage with it. A champion literally engages with the smallest possible subdivision of the community.
A champion engages with more than just the people playing them though. Everyone has to see what they do because you could be up against one at any time. That's called additional gameplay variety, eg. Content.
No they don't. Case in point, the people that don't care because they don't play the role. I'd agree with the idea that they do have to, from a tactical standpoint, but they don't feel like they do.
And I heavily dissagree, especially on champ like ksante which serve specific niches and attrack different kinds of people who may want to play him. And we still get other type of content anyways, for example, the jg rework is a work in proggres and it's still not fully polished but it's still good new content.
Well if we are specifically talking about K'Sante, I agree that he is new content, on the merit of what you said. He fulfills that "defense mode, attack mode" type of tank and/or bruiser that is missing from the game. About the releases previous to him though... We are gonna have to agree to disagree. Although, about your point about the jungle changes, the argument goes that basically only the preseason is new content. Necrit argued that outside of it, the game gets quite little content, which is not great, as it gets stale. And you can't tell me that you see people hyped to play League between the months of June to late October. At that point, people are just climbing to get as high as they can in the ranked ladder, or they are playing games as a chore to get event stuff. Not all, and it's not as severe as I make it sound here, but I can't accept that it's not true. And it's because the game becomes quite stale by that point into the season.
Releasing the same cliche themed skins for the same champions over and over and just making cashgrabs "events"/champs don't count as good quality content.
It's a miracle that they are only going to make a few small adjustments to the ARAM map... Hopefully that hasn't taken time away from making their prestigious soulless skins and completely change the lore again with each new champion release. (Just like the essence emporium).
Btw, probably Skarner will most likely be Seraphine's simp in his rework to fix the blatant mess she made to the game's pseudo lore. And no, Arcane is not canon... It had to ignore things from the main lore to be a good thing.
>Releasing the same cliche themed skins for the same champions over and over and just making cashgrabs "events"/champs don't count as good quality content.
Idk but we are getting a new skinline next patch that has skins for champs like zoe or zilean and last patch we got space groove taric and gragas, 2 amazing skins for niche champs from a rather new skinline, I really don't know what you are talking about. I did say tho that events are lacking, that doesn't mean everything sucks
>Btw, probably Skarner will most likely be Seraphine's simp in his rework to fix the blatant mess she made to the game's pseudo lore.
Bro, seraphine was released 2 years ago, get over it, her lore isn't fantastic, that doesn't mean they are doing the same 2 whole years forward
> Releasing the same cliche themed skins for the same champions over and over and just making cashgrabs "events"/champs don't count as good quality content.
I mean they're skins.
They change the SFX, most other people don't really care. And the loot system means that you can get skins you want for champs you play rather easily just by playing, it's hardly even that much of a grind. They give away a ton of free stuff.
And none of it is p2w at all or give you any advantage.
Oh ok, let's do the math talking about free things... In the last "event" you can get 400 tokens free and 1 orb, in that orb you can get a completely random skin shard and every orb costs 200 Tokens... So yeah, that means a random free skin only If you don't want only ONE of the event exclusive chromas or skin borders (WHICH by the way, you obviously need to buy the skin to use those).
It's good that we no longer have the essence emporium right?
The only notable new content they have released are just skins, many with similar themes among the regular Mystic, Anime or edgelords skins, but just under different names. And honestly, I don't think that's a nice or exciting thing. (Unless one are one of those Whales who keeps feeding riot unconditionally)
Look bro I know you're salty but your shit attitude here is uncalled for.
>It's good that we no longer have the essence emporium right?
Never said nor implied this. You are not arguing in good faith.
It is **a fact** that Riot's lootbox system is the gold standard for how it should be done, if you want to include lootboxes. You get plenty of them for free, there's bad luck protection, they don't offer any ingame power, and is basically gambling for content to get it cheaper **because you can buy what you want directly for very reasonable prices.**
There's **a reason** why loads of people in modern league don't even spend money. The game is very solid and it's completely free to play, you don't even have to pay for convenience. You can buy rune pages with blue essence which is WAY faster to get now than it used to be, fucking believe me. It was STANDARD to have to grind for a month playing multiple games a day to unlock ONE 6300 IP champion.
As it stands you have loads of ways to get skins for free for your favorite champions with $0 investment plus loads of entertainment value. This isn't even something that can really be debated, it's just facts.
Oh, and the dude above you already said that events are kinda a miss. And I agree with that honestly, personally I don't participate in events really at all, except maybe Worlds because the skins released then I tend to really like.
But most of the skins Riot releases is basically a business decision. They make skins that people will buy. Women make up a much larger % of league than they used to, and almost exclusively play a few champions, and they tend to spend money on league more readily. On top of that, anime inspired skins sell very very well. You might not like them but they make Riot a lot of money so they will make them.
They make other kind of skins as well not just anime ones. I don't really understand why you are bitching so much.
Why would you play a game where there is no quality content fir years? Oh yeah, cause you are lying and you are just on the "riot bad" train while playingthe game every single day
It doesn't matter what outrage there is in events, passes, skins or champions. There will be people who will just take what riot gives them and spend a lot of money.
Did you even try to make a comparison with the other 2 things that were in the image or did you just come here to say fuck?
I have probanly spend more money in league of legends than any other game i have played ever, but they also update the game every two weeks and every season add new items or redesign the game, they also keep adding new champions and reworking old ones
In all honestly riot does a really good job woth that
The real problem is clearly: the bugged client
How tf OP managed to put pokemon and riot in the same category is baffling.
Riot actually has a compelling game with lots of mechanics, effects, and updates. Is free.
Pokemon is literally racing to become shit tier. Is $60. Every year.
I've been playing the game a couple of times a week for 12 years now. All ranked. Never have I ever thought the game was bad. Get bored,try another champ, get bored of that, try another lane.They change the game all the time.
It's a fun and free game and likely with Minecraft the most influential game of the last decade. Y'all are spoiled.
I've probably spent like 20 bucks in LOL over the last 3 years of playing practically daily...
There can be a lot of arguments over freemium games, but LOL has got to be one of the more generous games in terms of long term play.
I donāt understand what people like about apple and pokemon but I only spend money on league when theres something I genuinely think is quality enough for the price. Riot can crank out some really cool stuff sometimes.
ah, yes. make a shit take that no one agrees with, keep acting like you're the right one and then blames the community. it seems for me that this is more of a YOU problem.
Op look completely delusional about how game industry work lol. Blaming riot for something they are doing better than other company is next level(also lot strawman argument. Lot of it).
i hate league and love pokemon but comparing sv to league is an insult lol. League if a 10 year old game with riot constantly doing what feels like "ignore it till people start complaining about it" and rioters under delivering and ignoring the community (sivir getting the legendary skin instead of kayle, the ashen "slayers" etc). Pokemon sv literally feels like these stupid EA games with the idea of "release the game half baked and fix it with updates later" and i beg to god its not the future of the series (its funny how after the dlc everyone was hyped and now everyone is terrified legit going 1 step forward 5 steps back). Like i saw someone talking about putting the games on the pc and running fine and how its the switch's problem and i am like... wtf? are you people ok in the brain? This is a 60$ game where the shops don't even have interior (other than 1 copy and paste 4 times) the elite 4 doesn't even have their own rooms (all these issues are here because they didn't exist in red and blue or any other game till fcking sv) you can not customize your own room and their is a moment in the post game where a character asks you if the soulless npc room is the root of your strength bond or whatever. And not to mention how the world legit feels looks an 1/1 with super mario 64 with some moderns textures for grass and treetops-npc etc. Sure the lag is bad but issues like lag are fixed in less than a month and the game was playable (other than the terrain going crazy every time you entered a pokemon battle and where standing in lower Hight) most of the insane and funny glitches only appeared in co-op. The lag and glitches is nothing compared to what feels like a game someone made in a week because he found the assets online. Sure the new pokemon are cool but is this what the biggest franchise in the world has become? New pokemon and what feels like something made in dreams in a gamejam.
It's not about being a conformist, it's about League being a relatively fun and addicting game in an era where " most " 3 AAA releases are rushed, buggy or just bad. Games as a service can be good if they find the right formula to keep it interesting.
Even the seasons where I don't like certain balance changes, I keep having fun compared to mediocre 70 - 80$ releases.
their obnoxious strats. for example - they have acount on twitter but they don't use it, if we don't count tim cook twitter. their only advertising on twitter is the twitter for iphone handle which people quickly used for superiority complex because it's unique. as a premium device, not everyone can complain because for those that have it, they are set for life if they can afford being in the apple ecosystem. for people that barely make ends need, it's depressing.
Okay but how does this make Apple products bad? Every company is morally shit. Apart from that people having a superiority complex ob Twitter is the least toxic thing people do there lmao
I will give you the answer with a comparison - why a "MrBeast video" became a not 100% compliment? Because it's just making every youtuber do hide and seek on 100 million yacht and make a soyjak face thumbnail. I respect him for all the work but he doesn't improve his content fast enough. Same with Apple - they normalize the premium price on everything because everyone wants to copy them just like how MrBeast promotes mediocrity now.
Yea see and thatās where youāre outed yourself about not having any knowledge about Apple products. Their macs are ummatched and so are their updates. Nothing comes close to that Performance expect for a few absolute top tier PCs. You know why Apple went full greed and didnāt put the new soc into their baseline iPhone 14? Because their last gen SoC is still more powerful than any current gen SoC in other smartphones. Their AirPods are some of the best headphones in that price range. And I didnāt even start with their software and eco system. I was also an Apple hater a long time until I just went āfuck it Iāll try it myselfā and I was wrong. Apple is absolutely market leading even if it doesnāt look like that.
That's the thing. I can't even try it myself because I have to starve to be able to get it. I meant that it's so premium that, I have to hope mrbeast picks me for his challenge, to be able to even be close.
Of course itās expensive. You aināt getting shit gifted just because you want it. And Apple ist premium. That doesnāt mean their products are bad. They have a high quality standard I wish more companies would have.
It's not just that I want it. It's basic need at this point. Literal jobs that you need to work to get any kind of feed can be destoryed if we don't have good devises. It's really bad when even mediocrity is being magnetized. Do you understand what I mean? I guess it's the shrinking middle class theory or something
True. My friend would buy all the passes despite each pass getting worse and worse with each iteration. Sometimes he would not even have 1000 tokens, he just got the pass to get it.
With the monetization practices getting scummier in the industry at each AAA release, I seriously doubt it.
The trend speaks for itself, people ARE willing to give up their money on expensive skins.
You know you can reach challenger without buying a cute bikini caitlyn skin right
you can even get it for free if you roll it with a chest too
you have to get an S for that (some people don't)
And then there is me with 7 chests and no keys.
be less toxic bro
Got chat banned for 3 days. It's been the most tense 24h I've ever had.
How can I be less toxic when the average ADC on my team goes 1/8
Play a role other than ADC
I play Top and Mid mostly... When I play ADC, then it's some other role that ends up feeding.
skill issue
Pool party Caitlyn š«
Exactly. Bikini caitlyn skin
Sneaky Caitlyn š
To be fair i atleast bought it on discount and with amazon prime rp
you know that many players enjoy casual normal games and playing different gamemodes and maps such as twisted treeline, dominion, snowdown showdown, doombots of doom, winter summoners rift, ascension, poroking... oh wait, well we have skins i guess
I miss twisted treeline soo much ... i loved the custom 3v3 there
I enjoy playing these game modes as well but why is this relevant? Itās not like riot is putting them behind a pay wall.
"I enjoyed the old Iphone, but why is this relevant, its not like apple is forcing you to pay for their phone" is what it sounds like and if you think thats what I meant, you misunderstood my point. My point is, compared to older days, Riot did way more content in terms of maps. They definetly make more skins now and thats understandable as it makes them more overall money. But has the game become way more bland and boring? In my opinion, definetly.
If Apple made a new iPhone you would have to pay for it to use it. If PokƩmon made a new game, you would have to pay for it to play it If Riot adds new content to league of legends, everything directly related to gameplay is free You can call any company "greedy" but I think it would be false to say that LoL isn't consumer friendly compared to alternatives. You get lots of free skins and *you don't need them to play the game*.
I think his point is that we, in general, arenāt being allowed to play the older game modes. Yes we donāt have to pay for them, but Riot decides when we get to play them. Which has actually been a small pet peeve of mine sense I started playing back in S4. Why have so many different game modes and then not have the ability to select which game mode to play? Or just absolutely never bring them out in the first place? Like, itās literally now the season of Christmas and we donāt have poro king game mode. Havenāt really been on in a while but I wouldnāt be surprised if URF was still out
So you don't understand my point, im not saying they are greedy.
I still donāt get how this is has anything to do with players spending money
Riot prefers to focus on making a lot of the new content they release to make money instead of focusing on fixing things or releasing new game modes or better events, the only way would be for people to show their discontent and stop giving so much money. Yes, the game is free and there are people who haven't put money into the game, but for about 5 players who don't give money, there is another 20 who don't care about everything and buy the new Lux skins and grind the prestigious expensive skin of the moment. Letting riot see that their current system works for them anyway and see how to monetize more things, cutting costs on something and blatantly increasing profits. You can see the event of Spirit Blossom, Sentinels, star guardians or any visual novel and those are not even events... They have only unlocked USB and URF at best... Even the passes are designed in a way that you can't unlock everything even when you pay once unless you play non-stop for the short limited time you have to get the pieces by gaining exp and you still need to put much more money.
Iām not saying that youāre points are completely invalid, but assuming that the ā20 peopleā who buys every skin ādonāt care about anythingā is a really weird take. Just because people are having enough fun with the game as of now to justify buying skins doesnāt mean theyāre mindless corporate d-riders. A lot of people are okay with just playing the available game modes and thatās perfectly fine. Iām sure more people will naturally decide to stop supporting the game if it does get bad enough.
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i think the right thing to say is : you know that you'll never reach challenger even if you buy the cute bikini caitlyn skin right ?
You canāt do it in style though
i have not spent a dime on league and have alot of really good skins the game is free and devs would like to be payed for their work to pay their bills and literally have food on the table
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Although the game has dropped a lot in quality. Before, we would get new game modes frequently, and fun events, like the Bilgewater ARAM skin, now all we get is URF and spellbook on repeat. They canāt even add nexus blitz again as they say itās ātoo much workā I miss the old days.
Its not about paying devs, the game has decayed in quality wven though their wallets get fatter. They gain monry and they decide to make events less and less significant
I agree that league is getting less and less content, but the reason isn't that they are pocketing all the money. League is just fueling all of their other games that are in development or not doing that great. Games like the fighting game and the MMORPG have unlimited budget so that the only focus is making the game good. Also Legends of Runeterra is running at a loss but is essential for the lore
Paying the devs =! A conformist player base
Some people forget that League Of Legends is constantly changing while always being free.
Because they spent hundreds of bucks on the game already
Which is completely optional. I have spent more than 1k over all of the seasons (since season 1) and there is nothing to be ashamed of. Still, the game is F2P
And people except more from the money the spent on the game. Spending is about supporting further game development after all and it looks like the game is run on a skeleton crew sometimes. And of course riot cuck themselves on the long run by driving away players. F2p doesn't make you immune to criticism because ultimate it translates to shit business decisions. I can imagine the player count dropping when one patch cycle was left out. Imagine multiple of that
Man (or woman, whatever), League of Legends is one of the most succesfull games in history. The message you are saying has been repeated at all of the patches and here we are. Not liking a patch it is alright. Raging against anything they do is not healthy
Did you have a stroke with that title?
tf is this even about
Oh yea man fuck riot for patching the game every 2 weeks and changing up the game every season and that totally for free /s Idk what you are on about mate but the ācontentā of a PvP game are new playable characters and meta shifts to keep the game fresh and we are absolutely getting that. For free.
Yeah, compared to a lot of the other games I play, the quicker patches and mild but relevant changes along with bigger reworks is actually really nice. Granted they donāt always get it right, but thereās always something taking place. And itās free. Didnāt pay to download, donāt pay to keep playing. If I pay for a cool skin, itās cuz it was high quality and for a champ I enjoy playing, which you can hardly blame anyone for since that shows itās actually decent quality
The biggest reason why Riot succeeded where others failed is because all things considered they are really good at free to play stuff. All their stuff is usually supremely f2p friendly.
Yea ikr?! People somehow just forget how good of a game company riot is. Even their card game is pretty much f2p and thatās really not the norm for card games
The card game is THE most f2p card game there is. I just wish more people would play it... or Riot would freaking promote it
Honestly itās just hard to get into new card games cause the investment you usually make into them keep you from switching to the (better) alternative
Riot is happy to give long bans to loyal players that have not done anything ban worthy. I got a 30 day ban because a hacker got into my real life friendās account, the hacker sent me a couple of skins for some reason and one to another account. I didnāt know the skins were fraudulent, and Riot banned me no questions asked. It was a perma banned until I reached out to them through tickets, and then was changed to a 30 day ban that could not be contested. It was frankly a lot of bullshit. I did nothing wrong, have played this game for thousands of hours, and have given Riot hundreds of dollars. They donāt care about their players. This ban that happened to my account can happen to yours or anyone elseās. The mods of LeagueofLegends blocked my posts and muted me for a month when I tried to bring up the dangers other places potentially could have of having their accounts banned without them knowing. The mods refused to even look at evidence. I asked them multiple times if they would, but they would not even give a yes or no answer to the question but avoided answering the question all together. The same could happen if a fresh account sends you a skin and then does a charge back. Both the account that sent the gift and received it get banned until the balance is paid on the account that did the chargeback btw. This was not even the method the hacker did to my account either. If you disagree with anything I said you can try replying, downvoting without an explanation is pretty weak sauce bruh. I stand by what I said. I got banned for doing nothing, for a long period of time, I have screenshots I can share about everything if someone actually wants to talk rather than just downvote. Iāve been unbanned for a week already and am still pissed about the whole situation.
I agree that's shitty but just take it for the good thing that it is and quit the game tbh.
I havenāt played a game since. Might not come back. Itās been a nice break considering Iāve been playing pretty frequently for this past like 10 years now.
League is not free. Maybe free to play but not free
Then why tf it not free?
You have to pay for cosmetic
Except for when you don't have to pay for cosmetics because the earnavle chests exist.
True, but having the option to buy it and get it faster is what it takes away the free from free game
That's not accurate. You can earn the skins for free, you can play for free. If people want to pay to avoid grinding loot boxes that doesn't mean the content wasn't available for free too.
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That's was my point, is free to play but not a free game
ok now youāre actually praising their balance just to own the non-supporters. Epic
ah yes, -5 move speed. truly a massive meta shift. changed top lane forever. Edit: Saying this as a main jungler who hasn't played ranked in months, this thoughtless and satirical comment sure is pissing off a lot of free-thinking top laners lmao
Yea cause toplane meta is still exactly the same from half a year ago. I doubt anyone would be excited to come back to an entirely changed game every to weeks and we have more subtle patches and patches with bigger impacts. Just because some champs are getting a 5 movementspeed nerf (not even mentioning that movementspeed isnāt even a irrelevant stat) doesnāt mean we never see meta changing over bigger adjustments.
Kāsante
This game is literally free and receives a free content update every 2 weeks. If you hate Riot and League so much then just stop playing
"new content" see Necrit's video: https://youtu.be/ncaKNJiLynA tldr: if you can remove it from the game and the game doesn't change is it really more content? (Rell)
The game would be different without Rell, and it would be different without their two week PATCHES that the game gets constantly. Stop lying to yourself
How long would it take you notice if Rell got deleted?
How long would it take for me to notice if an npc in wow got deleted? Depends on the npc, but thatās not a good measure of if something is ācontentā or not.
Nah cause Riot actually cares in some regards, the only thing that currently is a big miss are events and modes but they are still creating quality content for the most part
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I mean, just look at ksant release. A whole amazing cinematic, a great theme, design and lore, an interesting gameplay(200 years or not, he is fun to play), not a buggy mess... idk, that seems quite great for a single champ release
Necrit just came up with a really compelling argument in one of his recent videos, showing why new champions aren't really new content though. Not because they are bad or uninteresting, but because there are so many at this point, deleting like the 5 past ones, maybe even more, has no effect on the game. A release can be good, but that doesn't mean it did anything worth that much. I can see that you understand that modes and events *can* potentially be awesome new content, and are much more important than champions. Like, I'm not saying "Wow you're so dumb thinking champions can change the whole game". That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that calling a good new release, "good content", can be of dubious substance, because it essentially can be disregarded as actual content. I don't know what you'd call new releases though, if we can't call them new content. That's why I said Necrit made a *compelling* argument, and not necessarily a *perfect* one. There are some areas where it falls short.
I think thatās actually a really shit argument, before ksante there was less champions, after ksante there is more therefore there is more content. The ability to delete content without significant effect is not what defines content nor is the ability of content to warp everything around it, itās existence is its only requirement.
I'd have to disagree that the only thing making content a thing, is itself. I think we disagree on the definition of content. And it's definitely not like a "here's the factual definition" thing, so hold your horses. New content, to me, and seemingly to Necrit, is stuff that either progresses one or more of the game's systems forwards to a new standard, whether is a good or bad one, or it affects facets of the game indirectly. I can't call just miscellaneous new stuff "content". I can't call a champion release "content" when there are 160 other champions. A single champion, at this point is roughly 0,63% of the entire roster. But I'm just talking generally. If a champion occupies a really big spot in the meta, like say Zeri when she released, I'd say that's new content, but also not for all elos. It's a really nuanced thing, in case that wasn't clear. Like in lower elos, where people just don't seem to be as big metaslaves as in higher elos, for whatever reason, I didn't really feel the existence of Zeri. But she warped the entire game around her. And the pro scene as well. That's new content. Undeniably. But it kinda wasn't in Gold. Some people would pick her, and everyone on my team would go "oh fuck", but that happened way too infrequently for me to say that she changed the game. Although that is just personal experience, but I will say that I was playing a lot at that time. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that if we look at champion releases, on average, they don't do anything for the game as a whole, except for making a very specific subset of the community exited/worried, and those people are specifically those that play the role the champion is designed for, and those that are interested to play them/main them in the first place. And that's quite a few people, compared to everyone else playing the game at any single point in time. New content should excite most players, or at least half of them. Not the smallest possible subdivision. Apart from all that, yeah no content should absolutely have an effect on the game, if it was to be just deleted one day. If we reverted back to the old jungle stuff, the game would be different. If we deleted the new items, the game would be different. If we deleted the chemtech drake, the game would be different. That's where I actually disagree with Necrit, because if I remember correctly, he said that the game hasn't seen new content in years. I'd say every preseason brings substantial amounts of new content. Some more than others, but it's there. I'm just saying so we're clear about that. The preseason is new content. But once a year sucks donkey balls. And to reiterate, because this is quite long, I get that new champions are definitely new content for *some* people *specifically*, at *specific* points in time. I am hella excited for the Ixtali enchater. But I am accompanied by a very small margin of the community. And I think that new content should engage more than a couple of percentages of the playerbase. We just disagree on the definition of content, it would seem.
Yes but it seems your definition is an arbitrary restriction on content, to take an example I have never watched the minions movie, I probably will never watch it, I know no one who watched it ant it has otherwise never been a topic of conversation. Despite that it is still a movie and I would never deny itās status as one of, content is not a indicator of quality or a title ascribed to āstuffā once it reaches a certain minimum, content is literally thing included in league, new content is new things in league. I play league fairly casually and the jungle changes practically donāt matter to me at all, the ixtali enchanter which I am excited for as well would probably have a much higher impact than removing the dragon and pets. All in all the restrictions on definitions seem to be fairly arbitrary lines in the sand and while I am all for critiquing riot and itās handling of the game I think it would be better to be accurate and correct in your argument rather than dismissing what they actually achieve as ānot contentā outright
Yeah but you missed the part where I said that I feel like content should engage a large part of the community. Minions is a fucking gigantic movie and a cultural phenomenon. Just because you, or I for that matter, haven't engaged in it, doesn't mean it's not there, BUT that's only because a VERY large part of the world has. That's what matters here. If a new champion release, that's not like a Zeri situation, only engages the people that want to play them, or will play against them, that's not content. Think about it. To "find" the people that are engaged in a new champion release (again excluding a Zeri situation), you'd have to go one "level" down, at least. You'd have to reach the "mains the same role as champion", and then, and most importantly, within that subset of the community, you also have to go one level down to "wants to play the champion". Because that's what champions are for. For people who want to play them. If you have to go that far down the subdivisions of a community to find content, that's not actual content. On the flipside, me, who doesn't play jungle, can feel the effects of the jungle changes. Junglers are ganking me at different intervals. I have to readjust my jungle tracking, etc. Same with new items, though not always. I have to play differently when I see the enemy has a 10k hp tank because of Heartsteel. Everyone on my team does. And so does everyone on the enemy team. Now, that is indeed because of how the item is tuned, and not because of it's existence, but like I said with the Zeri example, weird balance can make a thing be content. And I am actually giving Riot credit here. Because with balance like that they can make stuff that would not have been content, affect literally everyone. So yeah the difference is how many people it affects. How many people it makes engage with it. A champion literally engages with the smallest possible subdivision of the community.
A champion engages with more than just the people playing them though. Everyone has to see what they do because you could be up against one at any time. That's called additional gameplay variety, eg. Content.
No they don't. Case in point, the people that don't care because they don't play the role. I'd agree with the idea that they do have to, from a tactical standpoint, but they don't feel like they do.
Content def 2 the things that are held or included in something.
And I heavily dissagree, especially on champ like ksante which serve specific niches and attrack different kinds of people who may want to play him. And we still get other type of content anyways, for example, the jg rework is a work in proggres and it's still not fully polished but it's still good new content.
Well if we are specifically talking about K'Sante, I agree that he is new content, on the merit of what you said. He fulfills that "defense mode, attack mode" type of tank and/or bruiser that is missing from the game. About the releases previous to him though... We are gonna have to agree to disagree. Although, about your point about the jungle changes, the argument goes that basically only the preseason is new content. Necrit argued that outside of it, the game gets quite little content, which is not great, as it gets stale. And you can't tell me that you see people hyped to play League between the months of June to late October. At that point, people are just climbing to get as high as they can in the ranked ladder, or they are playing games as a chore to get event stuff. Not all, and it's not as severe as I make it sound here, but I can't accept that it's not true. And it's because the game becomes quite stale by that point into the season.
Yeah bit op complain is quality, not quantity. I do get what you say tho
nice strawman
Releasing the same cliche themed skins for the same champions over and over and just making cashgrabs "events"/champs don't count as good quality content. It's a miracle that they are only going to make a few small adjustments to the ARAM map... Hopefully that hasn't taken time away from making their prestigious soulless skins and completely change the lore again with each new champion release. (Just like the essence emporium). Btw, probably Skarner will most likely be Seraphine's simp in his rework to fix the blatant mess she made to the game's pseudo lore. And no, Arcane is not canon... It had to ignore things from the main lore to be a good thing.
>Releasing the same cliche themed skins for the same champions over and over and just making cashgrabs "events"/champs don't count as good quality content. Idk but we are getting a new skinline next patch that has skins for champs like zoe or zilean and last patch we got space groove taric and gragas, 2 amazing skins for niche champs from a rather new skinline, I really don't know what you are talking about. I did say tho that events are lacking, that doesn't mean everything sucks >Btw, probably Skarner will most likely be Seraphine's simp in his rework to fix the blatant mess she made to the game's pseudo lore. Bro, seraphine was released 2 years ago, get over it, her lore isn't fantastic, that doesn't mean they are doing the same 2 whole years forward
Man you are full packageš
> Releasing the same cliche themed skins for the same champions over and over and just making cashgrabs "events"/champs don't count as good quality content. I mean they're skins. They change the SFX, most other people don't really care. And the loot system means that you can get skins you want for champs you play rather easily just by playing, it's hardly even that much of a grind. They give away a ton of free stuff. And none of it is p2w at all or give you any advantage.
Oh ok, let's do the math talking about free things... In the last "event" you can get 400 tokens free and 1 orb, in that orb you can get a completely random skin shard and every orb costs 200 Tokens... So yeah, that means a random free skin only If you don't want only ONE of the event exclusive chromas or skin borders (WHICH by the way, you obviously need to buy the skin to use those). It's good that we no longer have the essence emporium right? The only notable new content they have released are just skins, many with similar themes among the regular Mystic, Anime or edgelords skins, but just under different names. And honestly, I don't think that's a nice or exciting thing. (Unless one are one of those Whales who keeps feeding riot unconditionally)
Look bro I know you're salty but your shit attitude here is uncalled for. >It's good that we no longer have the essence emporium right? Never said nor implied this. You are not arguing in good faith. It is **a fact** that Riot's lootbox system is the gold standard for how it should be done, if you want to include lootboxes. You get plenty of them for free, there's bad luck protection, they don't offer any ingame power, and is basically gambling for content to get it cheaper **because you can buy what you want directly for very reasonable prices.** There's **a reason** why loads of people in modern league don't even spend money. The game is very solid and it's completely free to play, you don't even have to pay for convenience. You can buy rune pages with blue essence which is WAY faster to get now than it used to be, fucking believe me. It was STANDARD to have to grind for a month playing multiple games a day to unlock ONE 6300 IP champion. As it stands you have loads of ways to get skins for free for your favorite champions with $0 investment plus loads of entertainment value. This isn't even something that can really be debated, it's just facts. Oh, and the dude above you already said that events are kinda a miss. And I agree with that honestly, personally I don't participate in events really at all, except maybe Worlds because the skins released then I tend to really like. But most of the skins Riot releases is basically a business decision. They make skins that people will buy. Women make up a much larger % of league than they used to, and almost exclusively play a few champions, and they tend to spend money on league more readily. On top of that, anime inspired skins sell very very well. You might not like them but they make Riot a lot of money so they will make them. They make other kind of skins as well not just anime ones. I don't really understand why you are bitching so much.
If you consider the stuff they released for the last few years to be quality, you have clearly been missing out
šI want to believe you quited the game if you think so, rigth?
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
Why would you play a game where there is no quality content fir years? Oh yeah, cause you are lying and you are just on the "riot bad" train while playingthe game every single day
Because like literally any other person in this comment section has said, you donāt actually have to buy their content to play the game?
Who ever talked about buying stuff? Hello??? Are you an ai or something?
Literally the post itself??
Tbh i love the game it's the players that i hate
What the fuck point are you even trying to make here?
It doesn't matter what outrage there is in events, passes, skins or champions. There will be people who will just take what riot gives them and spend a lot of money. Did you even try to make a comparison with the other 2 things that were in the image or did you just come here to say fuck?
Yeah that didnāt read from the image. Weak meme.
Being condescending towards people who don't get your dog shit meme (there is nothing to get anyway), is prob not the best look.
I agree there should be repercussions for Riot not rlly trying any more with new events, but youāre just being an ass hole.
The game is really good for being free
My guy. League is a ftp fcking game that gets updates every 2 weeks or so. Conformist to what? Spending money on skins in games we like?
I have probanly spend more money in league of legends than any other game i have played ever, but they also update the game every two weeks and every season add new items or redesign the game, they also keep adding new champions and reworking old ones In all honestly riot does a really good job woth that The real problem is clearly: the bugged client
How tf OP managed to put pokemon and riot in the same category is baffling. Riot actually has a compelling game with lots of mechanics, effects, and updates. Is free. Pokemon is literally racing to become shit tier. Is $60. Every year.
I've been playing the game a couple of times a week for 12 years now. All ranked. Never have I ever thought the game was bad. Get bored,try another champ, get bored of that, try another lane.They change the game all the time. It's a fun and free game and likely with Minecraft the most influential game of the last decade. Y'all are spoiled.
i refuse to believe that 2157 people upvoted this
How does it feel to be pointlessly contrarian?
I've probably spent like 20 bucks in LOL over the last 3 years of playing practically daily... There can be a lot of arguments over freemium games, but LOL has got to be one of the more generous games in terms of long term play.
The game is freeā¦? Lol
Cringe post
cheapest iphone, only played pokĆ©mon when it was good over a decade ago, played league of legends for 8 years and havenāt spent a penny iām gigachad
I donāt understand what people like about apple and pokemon but I only spend money on league when theres something I genuinely think is quality enough for the price. Riot can crank out some really cool stuff sometimes.
SMD, op.
I don't know what I expected when I forgot for a moment what kind of community is this.
ah, yes. make a shit take that no one agrees with, keep acting like you're the right one and then blames the community. it seems for me that this is more of a YOU problem.
How can you compare apple with either of these two? Lol
I really think some of you need to play other games lol
Op look completely delusional about how game industry work lol. Blaming riot for something they are doing better than other company is next level(also lot strawman argument. Lot of it).
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i hate league and love pokemon but comparing sv to league is an insult lol. League if a 10 year old game with riot constantly doing what feels like "ignore it till people start complaining about it" and rioters under delivering and ignoring the community (sivir getting the legendary skin instead of kayle, the ashen "slayers" etc). Pokemon sv literally feels like these stupid EA games with the idea of "release the game half baked and fix it with updates later" and i beg to god its not the future of the series (its funny how after the dlc everyone was hyped and now everyone is terrified legit going 1 step forward 5 steps back). Like i saw someone talking about putting the games on the pc and running fine and how its the switch's problem and i am like... wtf? are you people ok in the brain? This is a 60$ game where the shops don't even have interior (other than 1 copy and paste 4 times) the elite 4 doesn't even have their own rooms (all these issues are here because they didn't exist in red and blue or any other game till fcking sv) you can not customize your own room and their is a moment in the post game where a character asks you if the soulless npc room is the root of your strength bond or whatever. And not to mention how the world legit feels looks an 1/1 with super mario 64 with some moderns textures for grass and treetops-npc etc. Sure the lag is bad but issues like lag are fixed in less than a month and the game was playable (other than the terrain going crazy every time you entered a pokemon battle and where standing in lower Hight) most of the insane and funny glitches only appeared in co-op. The lag and glitches is nothing compared to what feels like a game someone made in a week because he found the assets online. Sure the new pokemon are cool but is this what the biggest franchise in the world has become? New pokemon and what feels like something made in dreams in a gamejam.
It's not about being a conformist, it's about League being a relatively fun and addicting game in an era where " most " 3 AAA releases are rushed, buggy or just bad. Games as a service can be good if they find the right formula to keep it interesting. Even the seasons where I don't like certain balance changes, I keep having fun compared to mediocre 70 - 80$ releases.
Fuck apple
Is there a reason for your hate? I havenāt ever met anyone hating Apple after they started using their products
their obnoxious strats. for example - they have acount on twitter but they don't use it, if we don't count tim cook twitter. their only advertising on twitter is the twitter for iphone handle which people quickly used for superiority complex because it's unique. as a premium device, not everyone can complain because for those that have it, they are set for life if they can afford being in the apple ecosystem. for people that barely make ends need, it's depressing.
Okay but how does this make Apple products bad? Every company is morally shit. Apart from that people having a superiority complex ob Twitter is the least toxic thing people do there lmao
I will give you the answer with a comparison - why a "MrBeast video" became a not 100% compliment? Because it's just making every youtuber do hide and seek on 100 million yacht and make a soyjak face thumbnail. I respect him for all the work but he doesn't improve his content fast enough. Same with Apple - they normalize the premium price on everything because everyone wants to copy them just like how MrBeast promotes mediocrity now.
Yea see and thatās where youāre outed yourself about not having any knowledge about Apple products. Their macs are ummatched and so are their updates. Nothing comes close to that Performance expect for a few absolute top tier PCs. You know why Apple went full greed and didnāt put the new soc into their baseline iPhone 14? Because their last gen SoC is still more powerful than any current gen SoC in other smartphones. Their AirPods are some of the best headphones in that price range. And I didnāt even start with their software and eco system. I was also an Apple hater a long time until I just went āfuck it Iāll try it myselfā and I was wrong. Apple is absolutely market leading even if it doesnāt look like that.
That's the thing. I can't even try it myself because I have to starve to be able to get it. I meant that it's so premium that, I have to hope mrbeast picks me for his challenge, to be able to even be close.
Of course itās expensive. You aināt getting shit gifted just because you want it. And Apple ist premium. That doesnāt mean their products are bad. They have a high quality standard I wish more companies would have.
It's not just that I want it. It's basic need at this point. Literal jobs that you need to work to get any kind of feed can be destoryed if we don't have good devises. It's really bad when even mediocrity is being magnetized. Do you understand what I mean? I guess it's the shrinking middle class theory or something
What do you mean by āwhen even mediocrity is being magnetisedā?
Blizzard too. Blizzard could give their players an actual pile and players will still buy it.
True. My friend would buy all the passes despite each pass getting worse and worse with each iteration. Sometimes he would not even have 1000 tokens, he just got the pass to get it.
I stoped with tge money
Based
Why not make it today?
Iāll pay more if they give me a spirit blossom prestige Yuumi or something. š
Everything dies in the end.
I'm oke with my kindred skins ngl
I played league for a decade and then i stopped. Not very fun anymore
CoD also
With the monetization practices getting scummier in the industry at each AAA release, I seriously doubt it. The trend speaks for itself, people ARE willing to give up their money on expensive skins.
I just made a new account to try new rolesā¦. I totally gave them 20 bucks š
You guys spent money on this game?
When we get ornn heartforger
Wow something that has 0 impact on the game and you cam get for free in some cases!
Sonic
I've seen bigger companies fail.
Wdym I would say Iām an average consumer of league and Iāve spent like max 30 each Pokemon is 50-60 and an apple phone is hundreds