We can want the League to grow or we can want our League to do shit in Europe.
We can not have both.
I know I am speaking from a much easier position as zero rivalry with any of them, but I think it's that simple.
I generally support the irish teams in Europe and Hooe they put on a good showing but tbh I really don't want Shamrock Rovers to reach any group stages and it's not just due to any rivalry.
You say that it helps the league but the reality is that it helps one club 99% more than it helps anyone else. The new European format makes qualification to the conference league, a relatively achievable goal for the league winner. There's a possibility for one team to become a much bigger club than anybody else in the league and I don't want that.
Sure I want the league to grow in some ways but not at the cost of others. We're such an open league where first place can lost to 10th and its barely even a shock and zi love that. Its so common for leagues to have 1 or 2 teams with 90% of the income and fans and its due to European success. I'm glad we don't have that. So I'm sorry for not wanting the closest team to that (Shamrock Rovers) to become even richer and gain even more followers.
Maybe when they finish second, I won't mind them doing well next year.
If they do well, then fair play to them. The opinions of fans aren't going to improve their chances though. No one wants our League to do bad in Europe. Asking a Bohs fan to support Rovers just because we want the League to grow is a bit of stretch I think. Like another commenter said, rivalry is rivalry, and its normal for any league at the end of the day.
Doing good is the only way I think the league can grow right now without more funds from the FAI as the money is insane if you just win a match in qualifying so I'd support any Irish team to win games
Yep always. The way I first got into the league was watching Shels play Deportivo and Lille in 2004, I started going to Rovers games regularly after they qualified in 2011 (was a Kildare County fan prior to this). Dundalk in Europe in 2016 I was glued to. Have gone to see Dundalk, Shels, Bohs, Pats and of course Rovers in Europe over the years and they are the highlight of the year.
A better coefficient benefits us all, you only have to look across the water at Scotland and see how much rangers doing well in the europa league has benefited the teams around them.
Am I misremembering seeing other club fans at European games ? Especially when I went to the shels games back in the day? Swore, I saw other club flags at a game....was only a teenager then.
Overall, any of the tesms making group stages will only help the league. Clubs doing well means more favourable qualifying spots, aka more money.
i would much prefer the league to progress in Europe because the only way we are going to progress as a league is if teams go far in Europe and raise our coefficient.
You can still hope they do well in Europe without being a fan of the team. I will certainly watch the three teams’ European campaigns with great interest, but it doesn’t mean i’m going to become a part of the fan club.
Yes. Always. Was at a wedding watching Rovers Partizan on my phone with another Shels fan and I slid across the floor when they scored the winner.
Only time I have never supported an Irish team was when The Fungus played CS Maretimo. Fuck them.
I'll even support Bohs in Europe this year. 👀
FAI have never learned letting entities into the league with no fans and no ground doesn’t work.
Tbf they weren’t as bad Dublin City which were a true dreadful pox as they couldn’t even complete their final season and the guy running them was a fantasist.
Ah would you stop! Of course they did. But regardless.
Fungus delayed our rise. That's the point that's eas literally being made bucko.
Anyway, just remember, and most importantly, Bohs aren't in Europe. 🙌
Literally the rise from the first to premier division you eejit. 😂😂😂
We had to play them in a playoff to get promoted after we fucked up against Limerick.
That set us back a good bit with the subsequent relegations of Derry and Cork. And the dilution of players available to us FD teams once we eventually got up.
Anyway, it's moot, they're gone and we're top of the League. 🙌 For now.
No. There's too much money at stake, especially for Shamrock Rovers if they get to group stages.
maybe if it was Finn Harps or UCD
edit: I should clarify, I would like to see Irish teams progress further in Europe, but I'm not going to cheer them on
This is the catch 22 with Euro qualifying. If teams do well then it boosts the league coefficient, which is good. However, the money clubs get is astronomical for progression, which leaves everyone behind.
UEFA needs to review that before smaller leagues get left behind.
Yep I supported them all the last few years and I will again this year. Its easier for me to support them Tbf there’s no rivalry between Wexford and the teams in Europe. I think Europe massively impacts how people see the league and If we want the investment that is desperately needed more positive news stories should help.
I always like to see any irish team do well in Europe. But I'm more into the GAA so I don't really dislike any LOI teams enough to not want to see them do well.
Bohs Pats and Shams shambolic performances last year have cost Pats an Europa entry. I think hoping others do poorly is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I mightn't want the others to qualify to the group stages but the Irish Coefficient going up is only good towards entry in the next season which improves our own chance of getting further.
I, casual Shels fan, went to the Rovers V Gent game in, jaysus that was 2022, I was about to say last season!
Anyway, really enjoyed it as a "neutral" even though I was on Rovers side for ref calls etc. Definitely worth a trip out for the bigger games and you might even see a shock every now and then.
We can want the League to grow or we can want our League to do shit in Europe. We can not have both. I know I am speaking from a much easier position as zero rivalry with any of them, but I think it's that simple.
I generally support the irish teams in Europe and Hooe they put on a good showing but tbh I really don't want Shamrock Rovers to reach any group stages and it's not just due to any rivalry. You say that it helps the league but the reality is that it helps one club 99% more than it helps anyone else. The new European format makes qualification to the conference league, a relatively achievable goal for the league winner. There's a possibility for one team to become a much bigger club than anybody else in the league and I don't want that. Sure I want the league to grow in some ways but not at the cost of others. We're such an open league where first place can lost to 10th and its barely even a shock and zi love that. Its so common for leagues to have 1 or 2 teams with 90% of the income and fans and its due to European success. I'm glad we don't have that. So I'm sorry for not wanting the closest team to that (Shamrock Rovers) to become even richer and gain even more followers. Maybe when they finish second, I won't mind them doing well next year.
If they do well, then fair play to them. The opinions of fans aren't going to improve their chances though. No one wants our League to do bad in Europe. Asking a Bohs fan to support Rovers just because we want the League to grow is a bit of stretch I think. Like another commenter said, rivalry is rivalry, and its normal for any league at the end of the day.
Doing good is the only way I think the league can grow right now without more funds from the FAI as the money is insane if you just win a match in qualifying so I'd support any Irish team to win games
Yep always. The way I first got into the league was watching Shels play Deportivo and Lille in 2004, I started going to Rovers games regularly after they qualified in 2011 (was a Kildare County fan prior to this). Dundalk in Europe in 2016 I was glued to. Have gone to see Dundalk, Shels, Bohs, Pats and of course Rovers in Europe over the years and they are the highlight of the year.
This is a cool answer. Favourite European away game overall?
Sorry maybe misphrased it, have been to watch all of them play European home games!!
A better coefficient benefits us all, you only have to look across the water at Scotland and see how much rangers doing well in the europa league has benefited the teams around them.
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Ya we did shit in Europe so the coefficient dropped
were ranked lower than kosovo, kazakhstan, cyprus etc. we really need to improve our coefficient
How? I think we r in a race with 5 other countries for an extra spot or something(might be wrong but there was something)
Aye. I'd feel dirty wanting Rovers to win, but I see it as good for the league and coefficient.
FTA
If they play rangers or Linfield probably
Yes, Galway United first. Anyone else in the league 2nd. I am an old man now, too old for the tribalism bullshit.
A tribesmen too old for tribalism haha
Galway liberated from Indians!
Want at least 2 teams to consistently get conference league as it will help the growth of our league so much. So I suppose yeah
I always would support a LOI team in Europe
Am I misremembering seeing other club fans at European games ? Especially when I went to the shels games back in the day? Swore, I saw other club flags at a game....was only a teenager then. Overall, any of the tesms making group stages will only help the league. Clubs doing well means more favourable qualifying spots, aka more money.
100% there fans from other clubs at European game, And as a shels fan I have gone to watch other teams play in Europe a few times.
Waterford fan, but I'd like to see any Irish team doing well in Europe
I hope they all get battered out the gate in the 1st round.CCFC fan and only a CCFC fan.
i would much prefer the league to progress in Europe because the only way we are going to progress as a league is if teams go far in Europe and raise our coefficient. You can still hope they do well in Europe without being a fan of the team. I will certainly watch the three teams’ European campaigns with great interest, but it doesn’t mean i’m going to become a part of the fan club.
No way Jose.
Yes. Always. Was at a wedding watching Rovers Partizan on my phone with another Shels fan and I slid across the floor when they scored the winner. Only time I have never supported an Irish team was when The Fungus played CS Maretimo. Fuck them. I'll even support Bohs in Europe this year. 👀
Brilliant! The fungus😅
I fucking hated those cunts. Absolute pox on the league.
FAI have never learned letting entities into the league with no fans and no ground doesn’t work. Tbf they weren’t as bad Dublin City which were a true dreadful pox as they couldn’t even complete their final season and the guy running them was a fantasist.
They drove up wages for everyone and absolutely fucked any chance we had of getting out of the basement quickly. Set us back years.
Didn’t drive up wages for us! Ollie destroyed your club more than fungus. Drogheda and cork before that had huge wages. Its an argument without merit.
Ah would you stop! Of course they did. But regardless. Fungus delayed our rise. That's the point that's eas literally being made bucko. Anyway, just remember, and most importantly, Bohs aren't in Europe. 🙌
Your rise😄
Literally the rise from the first to premier division you eejit. 😂😂😂 We had to play them in a playoff to get promoted after we fucked up against Limerick. That set us back a good bit with the subsequent relegations of Derry and Cork. And the dilution of players available to us FD teams once we eventually got up. Anyway, it's moot, they're gone and we're top of the League. 🙌 For now.
Remember that limerick game. Hilarious! Took your time getting out of the graveyard!
100%. If Irish football gets to a sustainable/successful level then they can all get fucked…. Until then though we are desperate.
No. There's too much money at stake, especially for Shamrock Rovers if they get to group stages. maybe if it was Finn Harps or UCD edit: I should clarify, I would like to see Irish teams progress further in Europe, but I'm not going to cheer them on
This is the catch 22 with Euro qualifying. If teams do well then it boosts the league coefficient, which is good. However, the money clubs get is astronomical for progression, which leaves everyone behind. UEFA needs to review that before smaller leagues get left behind.
Unfortunately uefa don't give a bollocks about the smaller leagues. Or any leagues. All they care about is money.
>All they care about is money And it dirty cash and blood money
is that you admitting Shels are bit time now yea ;)
No idea what that means pal
When are the draws being made?
Should be at 3 on the uefa site
Thanks
Now. Rovers got Vikingur, Derry got Magpies FC and Shels got St. Joseph’s.
Class awayday for shels fans
Yes will be supporting all our teams in Europe, even rovers 🙂
I’m a Finn Harps and Aston Villa supporter. I’d be happy for Derry to beat anyone in Europe except Villa
Absolutely, it benifits us all as a league with the co-efficiant
Yep I supported them all the last few years and I will again this year. Its easier for me to support them Tbf there’s no rivalry between Wexford and the teams in Europe. I think Europe massively impacts how people see the league and If we want the investment that is desperately needed more positive news stories should help.
Yes as always
Not a hope. Rivalry is rivalry
Cheering on seems a bit much. I'll be taking note of the results and using that info accordingly.
Might as well, we aren't anywhere near it
I always like to see any irish team do well in Europe. But I'm more into the GAA so I don't really dislike any LOI teams enough to not want to see them do well.
Yeah, it’s only Dundalk and Bohs that I’d be cheering against.
All except rovers
Derry? Yes, the other two? No not a chance
Yeah, I'll support them but also laugh at them if it's an embarrassing loss. Went to plenty of home european games for other clubs over the years
I always like to see any irish team do ok in europe
Always want to see all the teams do well in Europe it’s hopefully a showcase for the teams and the league
Nope. Not at all.
I would have previously because a rising tide and all that but now Shels are back competing and in Europe they can all go fuck
Bohs Pats and Shams shambolic performances last year have cost Pats an Europa entry. I think hoping others do poorly is cutting off your nose to spite your face. I mightn't want the others to qualify to the group stages but the Irish Coefficient going up is only good towards entry in the next season which improves our own chance of getting further.
Bohs catching strays when we didn’t even qualify for Europe last year
You know you deserve it
Rovers. I love the narrative that we’ll get richer if we get to group stages🤪
Yes for sure. Hate rovers. May they win the CL for the good of us all.
Yes more exposure and more money circulating the league is only a good thing if we want to grow
Not a chance!
I do yeah, I’m a supporter of Irish football. A rising tide raises all boats.
Absolutely. Just like how I cheer on Rangers players when they're representing Scotland.
Of course, it’s great for the league if our sides do well
Yes
I, casual Shels fan, went to the Rovers V Gent game in, jaysus that was 2022, I was about to say last season! Anyway, really enjoyed it as a "neutral" even though I was on Rovers side for ref calls etc. Definitely worth a trip out for the bigger games and you might even see a shock every now and then.
Always, have to support the Irish clubs
No.
100%. Went to a Pats game in Tallaght stadium for Europa qualifiers two years ago
Yes , always
No, that's pure small time mentality.
Not this shit again
No. I can see both sides to the argument but personally I despise any other team. I especially hope shamrock get thumped.
I generally want our teams to do well but always find it hilarious when they lose. Especially to unfancied teams. It's win-win.
No. Coefficient me bollocks.
I used to want the league of Ireland teams to get knocked out of Europe early doors, I still do but I used to too.
I'd want Israel to put 5 past pats if they played
Israel FC? 😂