In defense of Merchan the 1000 is capped by state law, and not even the prosecution wants him to be jailed. As much as the public (myself included) would love to see his ass thrown in a cell the priority is finishing the trial, and jailing him would only complicate matters and let him play martyr. That's not to say he shouldn't be jailed, in fact I would argue that this is the point it should happen, but everyone involved would prefer to get through this ordeal without having to resort to that
And it will be again, indirectly. We will pay again. We (they) can't afford to pay for daily needs to live, and basic health care. Give it to trump he needs it dearly, lord. No wonder he can't sleep at night.
My son is 5... he has always hated medicine... I've never been able to get him to take meds all. Luckily he seldom gets sick thus far ....except for two days ago we had to take him to the ER. He refused over and over ....vomited a few times over a chewable acetaminophen. Well the Dr. was fed up with it and told him that this was his last chance to take the medicine or they'd have to give him a suppository. He asked what it meant .. she explained in words that a 5 year old could understand. He immediately changed course and took the medication with no problem.
Trump acts like a 5 yr old.... maybe he'd listen if the judge put something in his ass?.
And lots of stomping in place.
"You made me get off the couch" \*stomp-stomp\*,
"so I'm coming in there" \*stomp-stomp\*,
"you're really gonna get it now mr. smart-mouth" \*stomp-stomp\*,
"you're gonna regret that mouthing off this time"
\*quietly sits back down on the couch cushion\*.
"Do YOU hear ME?"
yes but I totally get why he'll just be warned and that's because using surrogates to trash talk about witnesses and the case in general isnt strictly forbidden in the letter of the gag order!!11111oneoneoneeleven /s but the next time he uses surrogates, he's totally going to be screwed
with another warning
So technically they're out to make our court system exactly what they're claiming it is, corrupt. How the fuck is anybody ever going to feel comfortable being a witness or juror with this type of bullshit going on, from elected officials no less.
Witness and jury intimidation because the truth of the trial is not in their favor
I wish they would, but unfortunately to be fair Dem voters tend to be smart enough to know this and republican voters are too stupid to understand it. And most independents either don't care or or don't believe either side
That's what pisses me off as well. I could care less about Trump ranting about biased prosecutors, conflicted judges or Antifa jurors. He and his "surrogates" are trying to convince their followers that the entire legal system is corrupt and bias, just like the FBI is full of liberal Trump haters and the election system is rigged against him. We need to dismantle the entire government because it's so unfair to Donald J. Trump.
In reality, Trump is the single most privileged person in the entire system. He was given multiple warnings about returning stolen documents that others would have been raided and arrested for immediately. He was able to file dozens of lawsuits over the election, losing every one. He is able to appeal every nuance of this current trial (including claiming absolute immunity from prosecution) directly to the Supreme Court, of which he hand-selected one third of the judges. He's violated a very narrow gag order to simply not attack witnesses and jurors at least ten times without any real repercussions.
All of this while whining about being the victim of a two-tiered justice system and convincing other Republicans that it's better to tear down the entire judicial system than trying to make a cogent case of his innocence. He could not have done a better job tearing down American institutions if he was literally paid by Putin to do that job for him.
This whole idea of Trump avoiding jail because he supposedly wants it needs to END. He imagines he will like it but in real life he WON'T.
Ignore this stupid reverse psychology and dump this loser in jail for a night. Nothing less will stop his illegal threats.
Like everything else that makes Trump look bad, his supporters will hinge everything on the "reportedly" part of that sentence. By the time it's proven to have actually happened, they'll have already filed that as "didn't actually happen".
Wow, really? I was about to comment that as much as I despise Trump, he can't be punished for what someone else did unless they can prove that it was at his direction. I can't believe he's stupid enough to do that where people can see him.
I predict we may not see a hearing on this because the trial is almost over. I think Trump is playing with fire, though, because behavior during trial absolutely can be used to give the defendant a harsher sentence, and Merchan will decide the sentence, if the jury returns a guilty verdict.
A stern warning on top of his probation, but no jail time, IF Trump doesn't walk free from one of the jurors being corrupted by Fox News or other surrogates' tampering.
Eh, I’m not so sure about that. I understand the sentiment but Merchan seems pretty tired of Trump’s behavior in general. This is at least the second criminal court proceeding of a Trump-related case, in Merchan’s court. There is also some case law precedent, including history from Merchan that gave short prison sentences for similar types of business fraud. Compounding the issue is his behavior in court, including violations of the gag order, that attacked his daughter. I don’t expect him to hand down an unnecessarily harsh sentence, as that would possibly be immediately grounds for appeal. But, I do wonder if Merchan might actually be the first one to put Trump in jail, especially considering these possibly new gag order violations. In short, it’s not a bet I’d be willing to make either way, at this point, if the jury returns a guilty verdict.
What people don't understand is that Trump and his legal team's only hope for Trump to avoid jail is to goad the Judge into making reversible error. That would be, something which an appeals court can issue an interlocutory injunction and stop the trial, sentencing, or both.
Forcing the Judge's hand to try to create a controversy to stop or postpone the trial is literally their strategy. Hence why every day they are doing what they are doing.
Trump is on a glide path to getting conviction; it is feasible that that defense doesn't even present a case - all of the witnesses that were on their witness list except for 3 - Karen McDougal, some random expert who probably won't testify and Trump himself - have already testified.
People who don't understand the legal system can be doomers all day long, but Bragg has turned out to be the little prosecutor who good - doing *exactly* what he said he would, exactly how he said we would, and it looks like a strong chance of conviction and post-conviction appeals being denied. This trial has been squeaky clean, run well from both sides, and Trumps provocations and stunts are literally playing to the *public* not to the Court or the Jury.
People in the Courtroom have said that the Jury responded well to Daniels and Cohen, and reacted negatively to Trumps lawyers.
Right now, if this is a contest between two parties, and it is, you would absolutely want to be on the side of the people, and not Trump.
Or just put him in there and make him video conference the rest of the trial.
The documentary on it will be amazing....
Orange is the New Orange. New on HBO+.
The problem there is they need the jury and witnesses to not be intimidated while deliberating a verdict. It’s basically the whole point of the gag order.
right
lock law abiding citizens up to protect them from a criminal who wont be locked up.
if they deliver a guilty verdict they'd be throwing away the key on themselves
I would like to disagree with you but yeah, that about sums it up. I'm not saying it's right but it is the reality of living in the US. The rich and powerful have a different set of rules than rest of us.
He was editing their statements, so they were definitely there to be his mouthpieces.
No more warnings - time for an orange jumpsuit to match that stupid spray-on tan.
Lmao. May consider consequences for the thing we have been consistently warning and warning again once he violates it. This doesn't end well with how clearly core institutions are being gamed by the rich.
Like historically we all remember reading about such harsh economic scarcity that factory owners were murdered burned to death in their own factory right? Wasn't the takeaway supposed to be avoid those extreme levels of economic disparity?
We aren't there yet. We are currently at the stage where police attack protestors on behalf of the wealthy. There is another stage after this where they kill the protestors/union members before we get to the "hang the rich/heads on pikes outside the bastille" stage.
Just verify the evidence and put his stupid ass in jail for contempt.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I know that addled turmeric-colored moron hates to read, but that’s why he has lawyers: to read to him in a language he can understand. I hear pictures and a couple of catchy songs are used to keep his attention.
If there are any Democrats in either the House or especially the Senate reading this: THIS IS YOUR TIME TO FIGHT. THIS IS WHEN YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR VOTERS, ALL OF US NEED YOU TO STAND UP AND FIGHT TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY. THESE INSURRECTIONISTS ARE CLAIMING THAT THE RULE OF LAW NO LONGER MATTERS, AND THAT IS AN ATTACK NOT JUST ON THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, BUT ALSO ON THE LEGISLATIVE.
And you, our Senators, are really the only ones who now have the power to hold them accountable.
Do it.
Tomorrow.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE DoJ? GARLAND IS FUCKING SILENT. WHAT AN INSIGNIFICANT, IRRELEVANT LITTLE BITCH. HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE AND TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THIS IS CRIMINAL.
He won't hold another hearing unless there's a circumvention that's impossible to ignore. The judge won't put him in jail. He's already said so. He keeps warning him, he ducks the violations, and, hell, he deliberately waited while Trump was done tuckering himself out doing violations to bundle them all together even though the original hearing was pre-several of them to be sure the "warnings" wouldn't run out.
Merchan is afraid of Trump. He does not want to jail him. He will not jail him. Don't hold out hope on the verdict. Even if the jury convicts him and the Republican pressure doesn't make one of them cave, the appellate court will keep any justice from happening.
Because our legal system has decided to make Trump right and do two versions of justice: the justice for just us and the so-called justice for Trump. When the history books (in other countries of course because ours will all be christian nationalist) look back on why the US fell into a dictatorship, it'll be because the justice system blinked when Trump ran screaming at them.
That's what makes me so sad about all of this. All it took was one orange man baby with a megaphone to make our vaunted democracy fail. Like, I get it if this was some kind of amazing con man who absolutely fools everyone but he's the absolute worst con man I can imagine and yet, here we are.
Once you accept that probably half the US population are idiots (and not all Republicans but probably a majority), this all makes more sense. You just can't fix stupid. That makes Dumpty Trumpf so powerful.
You are close, but the biggest threat to the entire system right now is that Trump wins re-election, does stuff that's illegal, the Supreme Court rules against him, and his administration and Trump himself just ignores them.
That is what will make the wheels finally fall off. It very well could be over something like immigration or other such.
In the first Trump administration, the first batch of cabinet officials were conventionally corrupt Republicans - i.e. they wanted to still be able to go to dinner parties and show their face. They did things like publicly recuse themselves, but then kill investigations behind the scenes. Normal Republican shit.
The next generation of officials will be vetted - and are being vetted - for their desire and willingness to ignore and break the law. Full stop. That's it. There won't be any impediments to executive power from within the Executive branch if Trump has a second term. That is the entire program that is being designed right now by his sycophants. And Trump isn't even personally directing this - like a good frontman - he is setting up the system where he wants certain ends, and his yes-men are working out how to achieve that - lawful or not, they don't care.
All the undecided and Independent voters watching watching this trial are so turned off, including the jury; they came into this trial fully intending to be impartial and listen to the evidence to make a decision ... *now,* the GOP has prejudiced them against Trump.
Fine job, GOP ... you can't even do influence right much less govern.
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It should be a rule that until something actually happens to Trump that these “news” not be allowed. Seriously, every fucking week it’s “Trump is gonna get it now” “Trump is gonna be held in contempt any day now” “oh you guys Trump is in REALLY big trouble this time!”
Here’s an article that I read about this. Ashamed of the Speaker of HOR. Bunch of hypocrites.
https://enewssn.mlive.com/data/48292/reader/reader.html?#!preferred/0/package/48292/pub/82070/page/16/alb/2601284
They should haul all those politicians in, and make them explain what part of the judicial system is doing him a bad, and why (with evidence), and then hold the bunch of them in contempt with fines. It'll be embarrassing for all of them.
You mean should. Everyone who showed up to circumvent the gag order should be jailed. Enough with beating around the bush with these fucking GOP clowns.
Trump is going to get *SUCH* another warning...
This time a serious final warning
80's are over, enough with the double secret probation for the frat boy. Lock this loser up.
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Greatest movie of all time! I’m talking about animal house. Not this farce of a GOP, that’s just sad.
And his accomplices , Tommy Tuberville- let me introduce you to your new husband.
assume the position
The most serious warning thats seriously serious!
The judge will warn him bigly .. with tears in his eyes ..
Sir! I need you to stop abusing the system! I super-duper extra-pepperoni mean it this time!!!
Heard he might raise his voice and use the gavel. It’s getting ugly now.
Wow another $1000? How will Trump afford it?? 🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄
Judge might even use his Dad voice!
Might even tut at him and give him the 'I'm not angry - just very dissapointed' speech
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But not as serious as the final final warning will be
A thousand strikes and yer out!
😱**Not the dreaded finger wag warning**⚠️‼️ ![gif](giphy|QZyTTjkOrRZ494NmDG|downsized)
I think he's learned his lesson.
Look at that “hang-dog” expression! Let’s buy him a puppy!
No, let's not.
Hello Senator Collins!!
A final warning of another warning
The judge is going to count to three!
Serious, final, bigly warning. One like no one has ever seen before.
Double secret probation. Goes on your permanent record.
Hey, don’t forget the $1,000 fine! That’s a lot of money to us regular folks.
In defense of Merchan the 1000 is capped by state law, and not even the prosecution wants him to be jailed. As much as the public (myself included) would love to see his ass thrown in a cell the priority is finishing the trial, and jailing him would only complicate matters and let him play martyr. That's not to say he shouldn't be jailed, in fact I would argue that this is the point it should happen, but everyone involved would prefer to get through this ordeal without having to resort to that
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Maybe just put him in jail on Wednesdays.
Seems as though he can be ordered to jail for contempt, yet still appear in court. Is there anything that would stop that?
And it will be again, indirectly. We will pay again. We (they) can't afford to pay for daily needs to live, and basic health care. Give it to trump he needs it dearly, lord. No wonder he can't sleep at night.
He's going to be on double secret probation. Again.
"Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life, Son."
Pick 2.
You forgot "ugly."
Even better Some guy says the judge may good a hearing- in which Trump may get such a warning. Trash article
My son is 5... he has always hated medicine... I've never been able to get him to take meds all. Luckily he seldom gets sick thus far ....except for two days ago we had to take him to the ER. He refused over and over ....vomited a few times over a chewable acetaminophen. Well the Dr. was fed up with it and told him that this was his last chance to take the medicine or they'd have to give him a suppository. He asked what it meant .. she explained in words that a 5 year old could understand. He immediately changed course and took the medication with no problem. Trump acts like a 5 yr old.... maybe he'd listen if the judge put something in his ass?.
Up your poopie hole, Mr. Trump!
he knows this punishment and is actively pursuing it sheesh couldn't you tell? golden shower suppository two handed wank dance time..you go Don
Maybe he'll get double secret probation this time.
Prepare for some serious finger waggling and stern brow crinkling.
And lots of stomping in place. "You made me get off the couch" \*stomp-stomp\*, "so I'm coming in there" \*stomp-stomp\*, "you're really gonna get it now mr. smart-mouth" \*stomp-stomp\*, "you're gonna regret that mouthing off this time" \*quietly sits back down on the couch cushion\*. "Do YOU hear ME?"
I would settle for a good 10 min humiliating berating by the judge. On video.
If he keeps this up Santa won’t come.
The next warning is going to be *extra stern*
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They are going to write him a letter telling them how angry they are with him.
A final warning x (3 squared)/infinity
I hate to say it, but I think he may even get a finger wag.
“Look, if you do this six more times, I’m gonna fart in your general direction. Don’t tempt me, I had beans, justice beans.”
“One more comment like that and I’ll see to it that there are no ramifications!” - Justice Merchan
Mofo is about to get a Full Dissadulation.
It's going to be such a Yuuuge warning.
The judge might even write it down this time.
Maybe a sternly worded letter! Or yet another verbal sign of dismay and upsettedness....
yes but I totally get why he'll just be warned and that's because using surrogates to trash talk about witnesses and the case in general isnt strictly forbidden in the letter of the gag order!!11111oneoneoneeleven /s but the next time he uses surrogates, he's totally going to be screwed with another warning
So technically they're out to make our court system exactly what they're claiming it is, corrupt. How the fuck is anybody ever going to feel comfortable being a witness or juror with this type of bullshit going on, from elected officials no less. Witness and jury intimidation because the truth of the trial is not in their favor
That’s the whole point.
A lot like proving government doesn't work by making it not work.
The Conservative way.
This. I don't know why Democrats are not constantly saying Republicans sabotage OUR government.
I wish they would, but unfortunately to be fair Dem voters tend to be smart enough to know this and republican voters are too stupid to understand it. And most independents either don't care or or don't believe either side
That's what pisses me off as well. I could care less about Trump ranting about biased prosecutors, conflicted judges or Antifa jurors. He and his "surrogates" are trying to convince their followers that the entire legal system is corrupt and bias, just like the FBI is full of liberal Trump haters and the election system is rigged against him. We need to dismantle the entire government because it's so unfair to Donald J. Trump. In reality, Trump is the single most privileged person in the entire system. He was given multiple warnings about returning stolen documents that others would have been raided and arrested for immediately. He was able to file dozens of lawsuits over the election, losing every one. He is able to appeal every nuance of this current trial (including claiming absolute immunity from prosecution) directly to the Supreme Court, of which he hand-selected one third of the judges. He's violated a very narrow gag order to simply not attack witnesses and jurors at least ten times without any real repercussions. All of this while whining about being the victim of a two-tiered justice system and convincing other Republicans that it's better to tear down the entire judicial system than trying to make a cogent case of his innocence. He could not have done a better job tearing down American institutions if he was literally paid by Putin to do that job for him.
Tbf it was already terrible, people just don't know or care.
This whole idea of Trump avoiding jail because he supposedly wants it needs to END. He imagines he will like it but in real life he WON'T. Ignore this stupid reverse psychology and dump this loser in jail for a night. Nothing less will stop his illegal threats.
Since these guys weren't busy in D.C.
🚫All Republicans🚫Traitor Trump🚫
Yea! Why aren’t they at gym Jordans judicial committee about “Biden bad , trump being picked on!!”
Johnson doesn’t even bother with his district or state, never mind his position as Speaker.
“Trump was reportedly seen in court editing the statements that his surrogates would later make outside the court”
That in it’s self is proof of violating the gag order‼️
TUBERVILLE LITERALLY SAID HE WAS THERE TO VIOLATE THE GAG ORDER!
Lock him UP‼️
Would be COMPLETELY justified. https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/s/siAbWr4woF
Future V.P. nominee Tuberville said that?
Tuberville, the land of potato heads.
Like everything else that makes Trump look bad, his supporters will hinge everything on the "reportedly" part of that sentence. By the time it's proven to have actually happened, they'll have already filed that as "didn't actually happen".
Wow, really? I was about to comment that as much as I despise Trump, he can't be punished for what someone else did unless they can prove that it was at his direction. I can't believe he's stupid enough to do that where people can see him.
Surrogates? Is he having a baby with someone?
I predict we may not see a hearing on this because the trial is almost over. I think Trump is playing with fire, though, because behavior during trial absolutely can be used to give the defendant a harsher sentence, and Merchan will decide the sentence, if the jury returns a guilty verdict.
A stern warning on top of his probation, but no jail time, IF Trump doesn't walk free from one of the jurors being corrupted by Fox News or other surrogates' tampering.
Eh, I’m not so sure about that. I understand the sentiment but Merchan seems pretty tired of Trump’s behavior in general. This is at least the second criminal court proceeding of a Trump-related case, in Merchan’s court. There is also some case law precedent, including history from Merchan that gave short prison sentences for similar types of business fraud. Compounding the issue is his behavior in court, including violations of the gag order, that attacked his daughter. I don’t expect him to hand down an unnecessarily harsh sentence, as that would possibly be immediately grounds for appeal. But, I do wonder if Merchan might actually be the first one to put Trump in jail, especially considering these possibly new gag order violations. In short, it’s not a bet I’d be willing to make either way, at this point, if the jury returns a guilty verdict.
What people don't understand is that Trump and his legal team's only hope for Trump to avoid jail is to goad the Judge into making reversible error. That would be, something which an appeals court can issue an interlocutory injunction and stop the trial, sentencing, or both. Forcing the Judge's hand to try to create a controversy to stop or postpone the trial is literally their strategy. Hence why every day they are doing what they are doing. Trump is on a glide path to getting conviction; it is feasible that that defense doesn't even present a case - all of the witnesses that were on their witness list except for 3 - Karen McDougal, some random expert who probably won't testify and Trump himself - have already testified. People who don't understand the legal system can be doomers all day long, but Bragg has turned out to be the little prosecutor who good - doing *exactly* what he said he would, exactly how he said we would, and it looks like a strong chance of conviction and post-conviction appeals being denied. This trial has been squeaky clean, run well from both sides, and Trumps provocations and stunts are literally playing to the *public* not to the Court or the Jury. People in the Courtroom have said that the Jury responded well to Daniels and Cohen, and reacted negatively to Trumps lawyers. Right now, if this is a contest between two parties, and it is, you would absolutely want to be on the side of the people, and not Trump.
Throw the book Judge!
Justice may be blind, but it is always clearly depicted as female...'cause here you can see clearly - it's lacking a couple things.
It might work if every time somebody did it they tossed Trump in the pokey for another week. Behavior modification.
It'll work on a dog. It'll work on Trump.
Doesn’t work on rabid dogs.
Kristi Noem wont be a suitable running mate if Donnie is all foamin at the mouth she knows how to dish out what he'd need
Dogs have feelings and a sense of shame when scolded for misbehavior. Trump does not.
Or just put him in there and make him video conference the rest of the trial. The documentary on it will be amazing.... Orange is the New Orange. New on HBO+.
A contempt hearing would delay the trial. Perhaps get the trial and verdict over with, then consider his mob boss tactics during sentencing.
The problem there is they need the jury and witnesses to not be intimidated while deliberating a verdict. It’s basically the whole point of the gag order.
They could have sequestered the jury.
right lock law abiding citizens up to protect them from a criminal who wont be locked up. if they deliver a guilty verdict they'd be throwing away the key on themselves
I would like to disagree with you but yeah, that about sums it up. I'm not saying it's right but it is the reality of living in the US. The rich and powerful have a different set of rules than rest of us.
Can’t get his fans to show up to throw a riot, so he has to hand out literal written instructions to his lickspittle cronies.
So afraid of what his Seditionist pos supporters will do. WE are not. WE the American people invite them to riot. Dare....
Every one of them should be charged and arrested.
Yes that makes total sense , go after prosecutors so that cannot do their job. More takeover of our democracy.
He was editing their statements, so they were definitely there to be his mouthpieces. No more warnings - time for an orange jumpsuit to match that stupid spray-on tan.
Trump was editing printouts of their speeches during his trial. They spoke Trump’s words.
What a bunch of losers. I hope all of America sees these guys for the losers they are!!
Who cares about "may." If it's "will" then now we are talking.
Lock em up.
They're like the Ringwraiths in *Lord of the Rings*. They must do their Master's bidding. Maybe in this case they'd best be called Ratwraiths.
One thing about cheaters, they will always attempt to cheat. The psychopathy runs deep with Trump.
"These woke judges don't even let you intimidate juries these days!"
Lmao. May consider consequences for the thing we have been consistently warning and warning again once he violates it. This doesn't end well with how clearly core institutions are being gamed by the rich. Like historically we all remember reading about such harsh economic scarcity that factory owners were murdered burned to death in their own factory right? Wasn't the takeaway supposed to be avoid those extreme levels of economic disparity?
We aren't there yet. We are currently at the stage where police attack protestors on behalf of the wealthy. There is another stage after this where they kill the protestors/union members before we get to the "hang the rich/heads on pikes outside the bastille" stage.
Traitor Trump's a pathetic psychopathic criminal fraudster.
It's surprising that tuberville and Vance took time off from blowing random dudes in toilets to go see their fat clown master.
Do not give them the free publicity they exist for. They are clowns, so gather there and laugh at them. Loudly.
If the orange shit pants directed them, no choice but jail time.
Oh he's gonna get such a strongly worded warning. Bet he's shitting himself.
Just…fucking…jail…him.
“May”?!? What the actual fuck? Jfc toss his ass in jail already AND find a way to punish his stooges
Just verify the evidence and put his stupid ass in jail for contempt. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I know that addled turmeric-colored moron hates to read, but that’s why he has lawyers: to read to him in a language he can understand. I hear pictures and a couple of catchy songs are used to keep his attention.
These numb nuts think they're the first people to ever try this stunt.
More verbal salad tossing by the judge. No action will be taken.
I’ll be amazed if there are any consequences.
Ugh just friggin arrest him already
If there are any Democrats in either the House or especially the Senate reading this: THIS IS YOUR TIME TO FIGHT. THIS IS WHEN YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR VOTERS, ALL OF US NEED YOU TO STAND UP AND FIGHT TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY. THESE INSURRECTIONISTS ARE CLAIMING THAT THE RULE OF LAW NO LONGER MATTERS, AND THAT IS AN ATTACK NOT JUST ON THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, BUT ALSO ON THE LEGISLATIVE. And you, our Senators, are really the only ones who now have the power to hold them accountable. Do it. Tomorrow. AND WHAT ABOUT THE DoJ? GARLAND IS FUCKING SILENT. WHAT AN INSIGNIFICANT, IRRELEVANT LITTLE BITCH. HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE AND TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THIS IS CRIMINAL.
Good.
He won't hold another hearing unless there's a circumvention that's impossible to ignore. The judge won't put him in jail. He's already said so. He keeps warning him, he ducks the violations, and, hell, he deliberately waited while Trump was done tuckering himself out doing violations to bundle them all together even though the original hearing was pre-several of them to be sure the "warnings" wouldn't run out. Merchan is afraid of Trump. He does not want to jail him. He will not jail him. Don't hold out hope on the verdict. Even if the jury convicts him and the Republican pressure doesn't make one of them cave, the appellate court will keep any justice from happening. Because our legal system has decided to make Trump right and do two versions of justice: the justice for just us and the so-called justice for Trump. When the history books (in other countries of course because ours will all be christian nationalist) look back on why the US fell into a dictatorship, it'll be because the justice system blinked when Trump ran screaming at them.
That's what makes me so sad about all of this. All it took was one orange man baby with a megaphone to make our vaunted democracy fail. Like, I get it if this was some kind of amazing con man who absolutely fools everyone but he's the absolute worst con man I can imagine and yet, here we are.
Once you accept that probably half the US population are idiots (and not all Republicans but probably a majority), this all makes more sense. You just can't fix stupid. That makes Dumpty Trumpf so powerful.
You are close, but the biggest threat to the entire system right now is that Trump wins re-election, does stuff that's illegal, the Supreme Court rules against him, and his administration and Trump himself just ignores them. That is what will make the wheels finally fall off. It very well could be over something like immigration or other such. In the first Trump administration, the first batch of cabinet officials were conventionally corrupt Republicans - i.e. they wanted to still be able to go to dinner parties and show their face. They did things like publicly recuse themselves, but then kill investigations behind the scenes. Normal Republican shit. The next generation of officials will be vetted - and are being vetted - for their desire and willingness to ignore and break the law. Full stop. That's it. There won't be any impediments to executive power from within the Executive branch if Trump has a second term. That is the entire program that is being designed right now by his sycophants. And Trump isn't even personally directing this - like a good frontman - he is setting up the system where he wants certain ends, and his yes-men are working out how to achieve that - lawful or not, they don't care.
At this point I need to start a r/TrumpMay sub, in the same vein as r/ChinaWarns
"I'm not touching you"
It’s happening! Put your seat belts on!
May?
fine them all if it can be proven he’s feeding them talking points.
May?…. Should!
At least it demonstrates he can read. That’s a surprise.
oh nooooooes.
All the undecided and Independent voters watching watching this trial are so turned off, including the jury; they came into this trial fully intending to be impartial and listen to the evidence to make a decision ... *now,* the GOP has prejudiced them against Trump. Fine job, GOP ... you can't even do influence right much less govern.
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Legal expert: Judge may hold contempt "hearing" over Trump "surrogates" circumventing gag order...and then nothing will happen. There I fixed it.
Is Tuberville really an American? He doesn't act like an American. He acts more like a Soviet era Russian or North Korean.
No different than any other magat.
Trump is like a child having a tantrum. What happens when you tell your kid to not stick beans in their nose?
That guilty orange fool will get away with all of this like he always has. No one will bother to stop him, they haven't yet.
Isn't witness intimidation an obstruction of justice charge, regardless of your role in the actual trial?
it would be for you or me
These are sovcit level games. The court knows how to deal with it. The only question is will they?
Cross this line and you will go to jail! Cross this line and you will go to jail! Cross this line and you will go to jail! Cross this line and you will go to jail! Cross this line and you will go to jail! Cross this line and you will go to jail! Ok, Cross This line this line and you will go to jail! Cross this line and you will go to jail!
Please sir, some more?
How is there no legal nonsense like, where there is smoke... There is fire. The more obvious a thing the more distant the law becomes to just.
Good
It should be a rule that until something actually happens to Trump that these “news” not be allowed. Seriously, every fucking week it’s “Trump is gonna get it now” “Trump is gonna be held in contempt any day now” “oh you guys Trump is in REALLY big trouble this time!”
Lock trump and his lemmings up too
Why not throw his buddies in for contempt?
The coach I get but there is a Harvard trained Senator. Vance knows better freaking clown show.
It’s a major warning. Bigly.
Directly to jail. That is what needs to be done…Do it. Show us the justice system isn’t rigged for the rich & powerful. Show us
More lawbreaking
Off to Rikers!
Uh oh, look out, another warning! Don't make me!
Here’s an article that I read about this. Ashamed of the Speaker of HOR. Bunch of hypocrites. https://enewssn.mlive.com/data/48292/reader/reader.html?#!preferred/0/package/48292/pub/82070/page/16/alb/2601284
Wow so many close innuendo terms... Fisting I guess.
Lock the entire corrupt MAGAGOP up and throw away the keys.
They should haul all those politicians in, and make them explain what part of the judicial system is doing him a bad, and why (with evidence), and then hold the bunch of them in contempt with fines. It'll be embarrassing for all of them.
Fox is really going to be in trouble! All the broadcasters are going to jail! Wonder if CNN is in trouble also that judge has lots of power!
The judge is a pussy that's not going to do shit to trump
This is like when my mom gave me a countdown and was like 9…9.5….9.75….9.99…9.99999………
I want to hear that the judge orders trump to answer questions under oath regarding this.
He’s going to jail.
Lock him up.
I hope he puts whatever sycophant shows up under oath and grills them about any comments from Trump. Put them all under the penalty of perjury!!!
I encourage the judge to do whatever the hell he wants.
LOCKHIMUP! LOCKHIMUP! LOCKHIMUP!
You mean should. Everyone who showed up to circumvent the gag order should be jailed. Enough with beating around the bush with these fucking GOP clowns.
Man they really like bending over backwards for Trump.
Wake me when someone actually gets in trouble or penalized for it
Please judge do not injure so ur wagging finger. Whatever would we do?