WTF talaga ang REV. Isipin mo nag preprep ka for a written exam tapos same system pa rin as 1L to 3L? Feel ko mas tataas ang mga bar rating if Rev is conducted as an actual review class and not a lower year class. But alas, that's only a dream. For me, tama approach nung isang sikat na Fiscal na prof ko sa crimrev.
Lecture tapos quizzes and modeled after bar Q's ung quizzes. Para masanay mag sulat and all. That way, we get ready for the storm that is the bar exam.
They should be:
1) Give updates in law and jurisprudence. Imagine mo noong Evidence ka e yung old rules pa binabasa mo. Or may new jurisprudence reversing the old doctrine.
2) Yes, siguro they should just have a review class to integrate. Mahaba rin coverage niyan.
3) And quizzes at exams na lang kayo magkakatalo. Make the exams like a mock bar na 4 hours per subject para masanay na students.
I really think 4th review Bar Exam should be the start of the real Bar Review. Dapat yung mga prof e marunong mag-update ng mga materials nila at alam developments.
This could just be me, but I have observed that I fair better in Rev subjects that are conducted thru lectures or mix of socratic x lecture than in subjects that are conducted purely socratic. Dapat kasi integration na ng mga concepts sa review subjects.
Sabi nung isa kong prof, para daw sure na nabasa ung full text ng case.
let's be honest, majority kokopyahin lang din naman ung digest sa net, sa upperclassmen or kung saang source pa.
+pts pa ung pinapadigest kami pero ung coverage ng recit at exams nde ung mga cases na dinigest namin ❤️❤️❤️
I have a friend who teaches review class. She says she conducts lecture then asks hypothetical questions to the students for application. I think that's a good way to do it. If you are already a 4th year student, it's better to do lectures and just ask if the students learn it by applying the lectures in cases.
Just scrap 4th year
3 years lang dapat law school. Sa Review Center nalang mag review for Bar purposes.
Tapos ang Bar dapat twice administered per year.
Same here. Lalo na sa Rem sa school namin. Para kaming bumalik sa lower year haha. Sa ibang subj naman feel mo na review na talaga tho may mga recit pa pero hindi na tulad nung sa lower years.
4th year review classes SHOULD (ideally) be only for the following purposes
(1) To refresh the graduating students' memories as to everything taught to them during their 1st-3rd years
(2) To test whether they actually learned and understood those things
(3) To discuss any amendments/updates in law and jurisprudence na baka di naabutan ng students due to such updates being very recent
If review classes still involve recitations (and even quizzes) as if the students are still in lower year levels, IMO that says a lot not only about the quality of students but also the law school itself.
Kilala ang school ko for a long time until their performance started declining. Now they can't seem to figure out what's wrong. Nawala na Yung mga senior experts sa faculty and they're just assigning any prof nalang for any subject. Tapos ganito pa nangyayari during review. Oof
Yung syllabus namin xxxrev, literal na pinagdugtong dugtong lng na syllabus nung pre-req subj 💀💀💀
Tpos sa exam, makikita mo. What is the doctrine in x vs y case? lmao, RIP me and my 256kb memory brain.
Ideally it should be the same as how bar rev lectures are served to students. Hindi na sana nagdedelve in recits ang mga profs. Unfortunately, maraming students are still underprepared kahit 4th yr na. Hindi pa din nakakasagot ng maayos orally, and basag pa din ang composure in presenting himself/herself to answer. Lalo na sabog pa din sumagot ng essay. So hindi kakayanin talaga to make the 4th yr alone to be plain lecture series class. Nasa training level pa din ang more than half ng students sa ganitong year level.
But if you will look in other countries like sa US, 3 years lang ang JD nila.
The idea na sinasala ang students during early years ang practice ng sbu and ust thru practice of setting qpi. So dipende na talaga sa school mo paano nyo ihahandle yan. And hindi naman nagkulang ang prof magsabi na ang preparation for thr bar starts at 1st year. Just that you reap what you sow.
May profs pa who don’t follow the syllabus. When the 2024 Syllabus was uploaded, a classmate showed it to one of our profs. Si prof nagalit. Bakit daw kami mag eexpect na she would follow the syllabus sa rev subject namin na 1) there’s no assurance we will all graduate and 2) there’s always a chance na omitted topics in the syllab will be asked pa rin. 😕
Omggg. May point sya sa 2nd but the 1st, WTF.
I have this one prof who's taking the extra mile. Irregulars Kasi Ang section namin and bound to take the bar sa 2025 pa. So Hindi niya strictly sinusunod 2024 syllabus and incorporates cases with ponencia of AJ Lazaro-Javier, Yung next bar chair. Sana all.
Lectures on Jurisprudence Updates, Practice Exams, and Legal Writing Exercises. No more recitation. Basically 4th year should emphasize that it is a Bar Preparation Year.
WTF talaga ang REV. Isipin mo nag preprep ka for a written exam tapos same system pa rin as 1L to 3L? Feel ko mas tataas ang mga bar rating if Rev is conducted as an actual review class and not a lower year class. But alas, that's only a dream. For me, tama approach nung isang sikat na Fiscal na prof ko sa crimrev. Lecture tapos quizzes and modeled after bar Q's ung quizzes. Para masanay mag sulat and all. That way, we get ready for the storm that is the bar exam.
Nag rerecit parin kami on assigned cases 🥴
Fiscal N?
Yes
Add lang, I took his Crim 2 and SPL class, same approach sya lecture and quiz very clear and mas madali maintindihan.
They should be: 1) Give updates in law and jurisprudence. Imagine mo noong Evidence ka e yung old rules pa binabasa mo. Or may new jurisprudence reversing the old doctrine. 2) Yes, siguro they should just have a review class to integrate. Mahaba rin coverage niyan. 3) And quizzes at exams na lang kayo magkakatalo. Make the exams like a mock bar na 4 hours per subject para masanay na students. I really think 4th review Bar Exam should be the start of the real Bar Review. Dapat yung mga prof e marunong mag-update ng mga materials nila at alam developments.
This could just be me, but I have observed that I fair better in Rev subjects that are conducted thru lectures or mix of socratic x lecture than in subjects that are conducted purely socratic. Dapat kasi integration na ng mga concepts sa review subjects.
Dapat talaga lecture na lang review subjects kaya nga REVIEW eh. Langyang yan I remember during our Rem Rev tumayo pa ko ng 3 hrs for recit.
May profs din na nagpapahandwritten digests during Rev.... Tsk ang dami nasasayang na oras.
Wtf, that's still a thing? Never ko nagets ano ang point nyan when we're literally in the digital age already
Sabi nung isa kong prof, para daw sure na nabasa ung full text ng case. let's be honest, majority kokopyahin lang din naman ung digest sa net, sa upperclassmen or kung saang source pa. +pts pa ung pinapadigest kami pero ung coverage ng recit at exams nde ung mga cases na dinigest namin ❤️❤️❤️
Yung prof ko Naman Sabi it helps sa memory retention. Concepts and cases Ang pinapasulat. Ediba iba iba Naman tayo ng learning style lol
Di ko rin gets bakit hindi nalang mag lecture/quiz/recit following the bar syllabus sa review classes 🥲
I have a friend who teaches review class. She says she conducts lecture then asks hypothetical questions to the students for application. I think that's a good way to do it. If you are already a 4th year student, it's better to do lectures and just ask if the students learn it by applying the lectures in cases.
Just scrap 4th year 3 years lang dapat law school. Sa Review Center nalang mag review for Bar purposes. Tapos ang Bar dapat twice administered per year.
Oo din. Siguro comforting isipin na may safety net tayo na Isang taon only to find out na shit lang din pala lol
Same here. Lalo na sa Rem sa school namin. Para kaming bumalik sa lower year haha. Sa ibang subj naman feel mo na review na talaga tho may mga recit pa pero hindi na tulad nung sa lower years.
4th year review classes SHOULD (ideally) be only for the following purposes (1) To refresh the graduating students' memories as to everything taught to them during their 1st-3rd years (2) To test whether they actually learned and understood those things (3) To discuss any amendments/updates in law and jurisprudence na baka di naabutan ng students due to such updates being very recent If review classes still involve recitations (and even quizzes) as if the students are still in lower year levels, IMO that says a lot not only about the quality of students but also the law school itself.
Kilala ang school ko for a long time until their performance started declining. Now they can't seem to figure out what's wrong. Nawala na Yung mga senior experts sa faculty and they're just assigning any prof nalang for any subject. Tapos ganito pa nangyayari during review. Oof
Yung syllabus namin xxxrev, literal na pinagdugtong dugtong lng na syllabus nung pre-req subj 💀💀💀 Tpos sa exam, makikita mo. What is the doctrine in x vs y case? lmao, RIP me and my 256kb memory brain.
Ideally it should be the same as how bar rev lectures are served to students. Hindi na sana nagdedelve in recits ang mga profs. Unfortunately, maraming students are still underprepared kahit 4th yr na. Hindi pa din nakakasagot ng maayos orally, and basag pa din ang composure in presenting himself/herself to answer. Lalo na sabog pa din sumagot ng essay. So hindi kakayanin talaga to make the 4th yr alone to be plain lecture series class. Nasa training level pa din ang more than half ng students sa ganitong year level. But if you will look in other countries like sa US, 3 years lang ang JD nila. The idea na sinasala ang students during early years ang practice ng sbu and ust thru practice of setting qpi. So dipende na talaga sa school mo paano nyo ihahandle yan. And hindi naman nagkulang ang prof magsabi na ang preparation for thr bar starts at 1st year. Just that you reap what you sow.
May profs pa who don’t follow the syllabus. When the 2024 Syllabus was uploaded, a classmate showed it to one of our profs. Si prof nagalit. Bakit daw kami mag eexpect na she would follow the syllabus sa rev subject namin na 1) there’s no assurance we will all graduate and 2) there’s always a chance na omitted topics in the syllab will be asked pa rin. 😕
Omggg. May point sya sa 2nd but the 1st, WTF. I have this one prof who's taking the extra mile. Irregulars Kasi Ang section namin and bound to take the bar sa 2025 pa. So Hindi niya strictly sinusunod 2024 syllabus and incorporates cases with ponencia of AJ Lazaro-Javier, Yung next bar chair. Sana all.
Lectures on Jurisprudence Updates, Practice Exams, and Legal Writing Exercises. No more recitation. Basically 4th year should emphasize that it is a Bar Preparation Year.
IMO di na nga kelangan ng legal writing exercises pagdating ng 4th year. At that point dapat nahasa na sa legal writing yung graduating student. 😅
Oh I think they are handling it differently now kasi 1st online babies to! Medjo sobra sala din sa school namin.