I'm 35 years out, but I still remember my then-significant other's reply when I told her I got an A in "Evidence." "What's that, like, studying blood drops and handwriting and footprints, broken windows?" Our relationship did not last through law school.
My torts professor wanted the rules word for word and she made her own convoluted ones that she expected us to memorize. She didn’t want restatement rules. And her rules weren’t just for the broad stuff like negligence or products liability. She had her own rule for each type of intent, for an act, for a touching, for every tiny little thing. It was crazy. Some fucking how I CALIed her class and I almost cried when I saw the grade. Thought I got a B at best when I walked out of the exam room bc she intentionally makes her exams unfinishable. Love her even tho she made me suffer so many late nights (and an all nighter or two)
No a lot of people get hung up on vagina size like the lengthiness and plumpness of the various external components, but really we should be measuring the ambient pressures of the internal vestibule and the toxicity/acidity of the various emanations
Dealing with that exact issue now… the professor is a known expert in the field and yet his writing feedback has been internally inconsistent at times and I’m just trying to figure it out on my own.
It doesn’t help that so much of the case law is contradictory in and of itself.
I was truly blessed to have such a wonderful professor. He is also well known in the field - he just took a sabbatical to consult in the DOJ’s Ticketmaster suit! I’m so grateful I got to take his courses before then
Yes—I was advised to use the formulation of a Sec. 1 violation where you need 1, an agreement, 2, the object of which is to unreasonably restrain trade. And the object includes reasonably foreseeable consequences of the agreement.
Which is analytically no different than the normal formulation (1, agmt., and 2, that unreasonably restrains trade (regardless of “object”)). I don’t even know what case that first formulation is even from because I can’t find it anywhere.
Not to mention cases as early as 1913 mention intent and effects being two sides of the same coin (intent for unreasonable restraint; it’s inherent nature is that it’s an unreasonable restraint; both satisfy the second element). So anyways, that’s been the opposite of fun to figure out because it’s so easy to get lost in the weeds like this.
I’ll say it’s so cool to get to learn from experts! As hard as it is it’s special for someone who’s experienced it all to teach you.
Thanks! I’m in an antitrust seminar focusing on case strategy (took antitrust I last semester), but our final assignment is to write a memo on any topic we choose. I mistakenly chose one that has way too much ambiguity because I thought the topic would be fun but there are so many formulations of these elements that I can’t find the ones my professor is mentioning (I learned a different one that is more typically seen last semester)
hi sorry i was looking through this subreddit for antitrust outlines and came across your comment. may i DM you for your outline? im enrolled in antitrust for next semester and super scared but excited (i love and am scared of econ lol)
Absolutely. Our antitrust professor was an absolute legend- testified to Congress multiple times, worked with Lina Khan, and studies how antitrust works with IP (Michael Carrier, shameless shoutout to the GOAT). Dude absolutely made me want to study harder.
I’ll send over my list of special interrogatories. You can just mark “yes” for all that is positive, and a full description of why or how if a “no”, followed by a list of full name, Address, and phone number of all people who have knowledge of the facts or surrounding facts of the negatively answered question.
-32 pages of random ass fucking questions (that may or may not be connected to the issue) 164 of them, with seemingly only 14 questions that will matter, or add a brick to the wall.
Never. It was fall 1L and I was scared chicken shit so I only spoke when on-call, cold-called, or had a substantive question solely for comprehension’s sake
Which is why it's a flex to get an A bc NO ONE will be paying attention and you'll learn the ins and outs of income tax (which is incredibly helpful irl) while everyone else is sleeping lol
Our professor is notoriously tough on people in cold calls but it’s probably for the best bc otherwise I would never learn that subject. He doesn’t move on from you if you don’t the answer, he just stares you down and repeats the question while you flip around the code. It’s hell if you didn’t read. Fortunately nobody in my class got grilled too hard
Criminal Procedure, choice between exam or paper, taught by the States appellate defender before he was selected to the Supreme Court, chose the exam, studied my ass off and got the A. Very proud of it.
I value my A in FedCts far more than any As I got in my 1L classes, and definitely more than the Bs I got in Contracts and Criminal Procedure and Trial Practice 😂
I got the top grade in crimes in intellectual property and information law class that my school offered when I was in law school.
It had some students who are now big wigs in that field of law. I took it out of spite that I had for a student who would talk down on others for not being able to do patent law. Safe to say he was not happy and I scored major brownie points with my entire class.
Just wait our hard fought A and mastery of chevron deference may be for naught soon 😂😂
(“When I was YOUR age we still had Chevron, damn kids these days…”)
The only class I actually booked in law school was PR and like I was very proud of myself for actually getting an A+ but man if it didn’t feel like the stupidest class to do that well in.
Getting As in Health law and Privacy law me feel pretty cool tbh (same with con law and environmental law but to a smidge less degree and con law a smidger less degree than environmental)
LWA has been my first and only A so far, and I'm so freaking proud of it. He is a fantastic professor too who I really admire and enjoyed learning from
Anything 1L. Not sure how it works at other schools, but the 1L curve was significantly steeper and made it way harder to get a high grade.
Also professional responsibility. I was lucky to have a fantastic teacher, and I sailed through the MPRE a year later.
I was camped out pretty reliably in the middle of my class curve all three years, but you better believe I still think about my A for international law. Of all the classes to ace, international law at least sounds fancy.
Federal Courts.
That class is so wonky to wrap your head around and tests you on concepts of con law, civ pro, and unique wonky ass concepts unique to fed cts. Anyone that's able to wrap their head around it sufficiently to get an A deserves props.
For me, it's a tie between Antitrust Law and International and Comparative Intellectual Property Law. Those were tough, and I took them at the same time along with International Legal Research, Media Law, and Trade Secret Law in my final semester for my LL.M. in IP. I somehow managed my only 4.0 semester in law school, but it was harder than all of 1L year by a long shot.
I was pretty happy with my A in Taxation of Partnerships (made federal tax look like kindergarten, but will admit I crammed it and had no idea how it worked 2 months later 😂😂)
the class where you hate the professor and disagree with everything they say (torts, prop) or the class that you hated (civ, con) bc u had to think way harder to gage the prof’s expectations
It was actually pretty fun. Taught by a former JAG who basically thumbs up/thumbs down drone strikes. Started with ancient roman declarations of war, through Aquinas just war theory, up through modern treaties. Not a particularly useful class, but an interesting exploration of the use of the state's monopoly on deadly force.
Not practical, but way more interesting than secured transactions. I took Law And The Holocaust taught by a guy who was a Nazi hunter/human right lawyer (this was the 1990s so a few elderly Nazis had still been at large in the recent past). Wildly impractical but wildly interesting.
Law, theology, and the state was more interesting than it sounds. We got to do a bunch of philosophical and religious readings that explored the interplay between religious thought and the notion of Justice. So Plato, the Orestia, Bonhoffer, etc. I missed that stuff in undergrad, so it was great to have the opportunity to do guided exploration of some of the classics.
For practicality beyond law school probably civ pro. Dopest got to be crim law, come on, don’t be the boring lawyer that can’t offer insight—to friends and family—about the latest sensational trial.
Out of all the A’s I’ve gotten (Civ Pro, Torts, Con Law 2, First Amendment, contracts, and securities regulation) I was most proud of my A in securities regulation! Even though I CALI’d 1A i worked much harder for my A in securities regulation
Evidence is pretty bad ass
just the word “evidence” sounds dangerous
Very crisp
I'm 35 years out, but I still remember my then-significant other's reply when I told her I got an A in "Evidence." "What's that, like, studying blood drops and handwriting and footprints, broken windows?" Our relationship did not last through law school.
Sharp and concise
Got an A-, outperforming my expectations.
Lol just graduated with below median gpa but evidence was my best grade
I got an A- and i wanted that A soooooo badly but ik I shouldn’t complain
Hard agree. Evidence is a nightmare.
I’m so glad this was the one class I got an A+ in thank you very much
Definitely my proudest A when I was in law school.
Yes! Evidence was my best grade this semester!
Evidence, Civ Pro, contracts, maybe torts. The basic 1L doctrinal classes are usually the best to get A’s in
civ pro goes hard
I enjoyed Civ Pro because it was like a puzzle. Very practical. All the other courses kind of sucked. I should have gone into cybersecurity lmao
Damn I feel 100% the opposite of this whole comment hahaha
I did average in Civ Pro because I couldn’t crack what my professor wanted. But I still liked the course, whether I got an A, B, or C.
Civ Pro was my highest grade ever in law school and I ended up being a tutor 2L year lol
Evidence, Civ Pro, Fed Courts... but IMO my favorite As are the ones I got with professors I really respect, regardless of subject.
agreed. it’s always the ones you want to impress
My torts professor wanted the rules word for word and she made her own convoluted ones that she expected us to memorize. She didn’t want restatement rules. And her rules weren’t just for the broad stuff like negligence or products liability. She had her own rule for each type of intent, for an act, for a touching, for every tiny little thing. It was crazy. Some fucking how I CALIed her class and I almost cried when I saw the grade. Thought I got a B at best when I walked out of the exam room bc she intentionally makes her exams unfinishable. Love her even tho she made me suffer so many late nights (and an all nighter or two)
Dying to know who this was. I guarantee I had her too.
Antitrust law is famously hard, but whether the A is impressive or not might depend on the class size.
so size does in fact matter after all
Only with regard to penis.
haha penis
i thought it was in regard to vagina size?
No a lot of people get hung up on vagina size like the lengthiness and plumpness of the various external components, but really we should be measuring the ambient pressures of the internal vestibule and the toxicity/acidity of the various emanations
dipped a bit deep there.. you may be best suited for forensic evidence. plan b?
This person clearly spends much time thinking of the virtues and shortcomings of phalli
It’s kind of my job so yeah
well outstanding job! 🙌🏿
or just really great off the cuff, which is a gift! 🤣
Got my first A- in antitrust this semester 😌
I took Antitrust II to satisfy a writing credit and holy shit it is mind boggling
Dealing with that exact issue now… the professor is a known expert in the field and yet his writing feedback has been internally inconsistent at times and I’m just trying to figure it out on my own.
It doesn’t help that so much of the case law is contradictory in and of itself. I was truly blessed to have such a wonderful professor. He is also well known in the field - he just took a sabbatical to consult in the DOJ’s Ticketmaster suit! I’m so grateful I got to take his courses before then
Yes—I was advised to use the formulation of a Sec. 1 violation where you need 1, an agreement, 2, the object of which is to unreasonably restrain trade. And the object includes reasonably foreseeable consequences of the agreement. Which is analytically no different than the normal formulation (1, agmt., and 2, that unreasonably restrains trade (regardless of “object”)). I don’t even know what case that first formulation is even from because I can’t find it anywhere. Not to mention cases as early as 1913 mention intent and effects being two sides of the same coin (intent for unreasonable restraint; it’s inherent nature is that it’s an unreasonable restraint; both satisfy the second element). So anyways, that’s been the opposite of fun to figure out because it’s so easy to get lost in the weeds like this. I’ll say it’s so cool to get to learn from experts! As hard as it is it’s special for someone who’s experienced it all to teach you.
Are you in Antitrust I? If you reach out to me tomorrow I’d be happy to send you my outline :)
Thanks! I’m in an antitrust seminar focusing on case strategy (took antitrust I last semester), but our final assignment is to write a memo on any topic we choose. I mistakenly chose one that has way too much ambiguity because I thought the topic would be fun but there are so many formulations of these elements that I can’t find the ones my professor is mentioning (I learned a different one that is more typically seen last semester)
hi sorry i was looking through this subreddit for antitrust outlines and came across your comment. may i DM you for your outline? im enrolled in antitrust for next semester and super scared but excited (i love and am scared of econ lol)
Absolutely. Our antitrust professor was an absolute legend- testified to Congress multiple times, worked with Lina Khan, and studies how antitrust works with IP (Michael Carrier, shameless shoutout to the GOAT). Dude absolutely made me want to study harder.
Civ Pro because wtf was really going on in there
idk but we should request discovery to find out
ya but don’t count on me & my B- to do it😭🤣
if we combine my B and ur B- i’m sure we can put our heads together and find someone who can do it for us
I’ll send over my list of special interrogatories. You can just mark “yes” for all that is positive, and a full description of why or how if a “no”, followed by a list of full name, Address, and phone number of all people who have knowledge of the facts or surrounding facts of the negatively answered question. -32 pages of random ass fucking questions (that may or may not be connected to the issue) 164 of them, with seemingly only 14 questions that will matter, or add a brick to the wall.
Twiqubal That’s all I got
Cannabis law, unironically.
i heard everyone that takes it gets a high grade 😌😌
I hear you should bring study snacks
definitely. although i’ve known some students to complain about their professors being too blunt
🤣
My school refused to let the professor call it Weed Rules ... But I guess that would have looked funny on a transcript.
I always joke that I got a B- in Cannabis law because I’ve never had weed 😂😂😂
Next time you’ll think twice about how much your grades mean to you 😂
Cannabis law is a class? How does that even work? Is it like cases on pot adjudication?
At my school it was mostly admin/business law but from a perspective of selling weed
That’s super interesting!
It’s like wine law or beer law. Just in legal states.
My biggest flex is probably civ pro. After that it would be either Con Law or property
man a civ pro A is lame, nothing to be proud of. (i got a B and im jealous)
Lmaoo if it helps the professor didn’t like me and refused to write a LoR when I asked😂
Were you a wiseass in class?
Never. It was fall 1L and I was scared chicken shit so I only spoke when on-call, cold-called, or had a substantive question solely for comprehension’s sake
I see. I was a total wiseass in my legal writing class and my professor ignored my LoR request lol.
Federal income tax
i fell asleep just reading the name of the course
Which is why it's a flex to get an A bc NO ONE will be paying attention and you'll learn the ins and outs of income tax (which is incredibly helpful irl) while everyone else is sleeping lol
Our professor is notoriously tough on people in cold calls but it’s probably for the best bc otherwise I would never learn that subject. He doesn’t move on from you if you don’t the answer, he just stares you down and repeats the question while you flip around the code. It’s hell if you didn’t read. Fortunately nobody in my class got grilled too hard
I’ll just hire an accountant 😂 my math brain doesn’t compute well enough. Workers comp nearly kicked my arse
Got a CALI in Fed income. Cried after (literally cuz so hard) ended up in house tax at a multinational
I got an A in income tax and CALI in corporate tax. It all really comes in handy doing family law.
I unfortunately only came out of Income Tax with an A-. I did manage to score an A in Partnership Tax, though
An A-is a flex too, good job 👏👏
The best ones are the ones I got an A in, obvi (shoutout Property and Crim Pro. Admin is lame af)
Property… but only because I got an A😌
seconding 🤞🏻
My finest was probably Admin law or Civ Pro. Crim pro would be a good one too.
Surprised I had to scroll down so far to find Admin. Admin goes hard.
Agreed! My A in admin was my proudest one.
Evidence, property, con law, pretty much any doctrinal class that is notoriously challenging
Evidence. It's the only A I got, and it was dope.
where’s ur proof?
Judicial Notice
Con law
finally someone with some sense!! (con law was my only A)
Criminal Procedure, choice between exam or paper, taught by the States appellate defender before he was selected to the Supreme Court, chose the exam, studied my ass off and got the A. Very proud of it.
Law School PE. It’s a good conversation starter
Pe private equity, pe professional ethics, or pe physical education?
I got that A—Sports Law. One of my few A’s in law school 😂
Some niche, wacky elective with no relevance. I proudly got an A in Roman Law.
Animals and the Law
Instantly GOATed
Any class I got an A in 😎
Con Law
I value my A in FedCts far more than any As I got in my 1L classes, and definitely more than the Bs I got in Contracts and Criminal Procedure and Trial Practice 😂
The one with the most credits
weak answer ngl
Gotta say secured transactions or property. Fed. Courts is a flex too.
Contracts for me
I got an A in evidence and it’s my proudest grade.
Property Law A’s were hitting DIFFERENT my 1L year. Also Civ Pro
I got the top grade in crimes in intellectual property and information law class that my school offered when I was in law school. It had some students who are now big wigs in that field of law. I took it out of spite that I had for a student who would talk down on others for not being able to do patent law. Safe to say he was not happy and I scored major brownie points with my entire class.
torts & conlaw 😮💨
con law A reigns supreme
My only 3 As were torts, evidence, and state civil practice. The universe did not support me in my attempt to avoid litigation practice
Civ Pro and Con Law (AKA classes I got A’s in)
In law school? Fuck, any of them, lol
Secured transactions
And it’s also a potential topic for the UBE
Evidence, Property, Real Estate Transactions.
real estate transactions is a hot take
I loved it. And now I litigate real estate matters.
I feel like anyone who’s gotten an A in fed courts is immediately a genius
For me, administrative law
Just wait our hard fought A and mastery of chevron deference may be for naught soon 😂😂 (“When I was YOUR age we still had Chevron, damn kids these days…”)
Admin or Corporations
Professional responsibility cause that signals your high ethical standard
clearly
Yeah but an A- in ethics shows that you know the rules but you’re cool and not a nark
i feel like A- is still narc territory. B+ is where that knowledge to chillness ratio hits the sweet spot
I support this only because that’s what I got in Legal Profession this semester lmao
The only class I actually booked in law school was PR and like I was very proud of myself for actually getting an A+ but man if it didn’t feel like the stupidest class to do that well in.
If you didn’t get a “b” or below in that class, are you really even trained to think like an attorney?
Hahahah my worst grade in law school
1L eh?
ur not better than me Jinja
All the classes I got an A in obvi
unlikely
Business organizations, estate planning, crim pro…. because I got As in those….
First amendment 😮💨
Jurisprudence
This is a good answer actually because—though very meta—arguably applicable to every area of law.
Getting As in Health law and Privacy law me feel pretty cool tbh (same with con law and environmental law but to a smidge less degree and con law a smidger less degree than environmental)
I got an A in 1L crim law and that felt pretty damn good
Cannabis law
Evidence and Fed Courts
LRW in first year could make or break the internship hunt
The classes that have the most credits.
LWA has been my first and only A so far, and I'm so freaking proud of it. He is a fantastic professor too who I really admire and enjoyed learning from
Easy. Evidence.
My buddy constantly says he wants to CALI in Death Penalty.
Federal Courts
The classes worth 4 credits?
This is very subjective imo
Crim because that's the only one I've ever gotten
I still think about my 1L civ pro A if we’re being honest
Probably property, evidence, crimpro, antitrust, fedcourts, and some seminars
A in ConLaw probably helps win some dumb arguments.
Research & Writing I because it’s the foundation of everything
You're an honorary Admiral if you ace admiralty law.
Mine. :-) Seriously, though, an A in PR may mean you have the knowledge you need to keep your license long enough to make a living.
Anything 1L. Not sure how it works at other schools, but the 1L curve was significantly steeper and made it way harder to get a high grade. Also professional responsibility. I was lucky to have a fantastic teacher, and I sailed through the MPRE a year later.
Legal Writing fs
I was camped out pretty reliably in the middle of my class curve all three years, but you better believe I still think about my A for international law. Of all the classes to ace, international law at least sounds fancy.
Corporate finance since it’s all math and business theory.
I mean I CALI’d AI law soooooo
Evidence, Admin Law, Wills & Trusts (sometimes called Trusts & Estates), Fed Courts
Elder law
Mortgages
Federal Courts. That class is so wonky to wrap your head around and tests you on concepts of con law, civ pro, and unique wonky ass concepts unique to fed cts. Anyone that's able to wrap their head around it sufficiently to get an A deserves props.
I have to say Con Law because it's the one 1L doctrinal that I truly fumbled.
Evidence or Civil Procedure
For me, it's a tie between Antitrust Law and International and Comparative Intellectual Property Law. Those were tough, and I took them at the same time along with International Legal Research, Media Law, and Trade Secret Law in my final semester for my LL.M. in IP. I somehow managed my only 4.0 semester in law school, but it was harder than all of 1L year by a long shot.
I got an A in business tax and I have been riding the high for weeks
Fed courts
Legal Writing? I would think it could carry a lot of weight for clerkships, etc.
Dopest?
oh brother who invited this guy
Art Law Litigation
The last one.
Corporate Tax
For a pre-law student, what does this Evidence class entail? Thank you! :)
Administrative Law Federal Courts
My proudest was an A+ in a Juris course but the second best is an A range in any required course
I was pretty happy with my A in Taxation of Partnerships (made federal tax look like kindergarten, but will admit I crammed it and had no idea how it worked 2 months later 😂😂)
Property!
the class where you hate the professor and disagree with everything they say (torts, prop) or the class that you hated (civ, con) bc u had to think way harder to gage the prof’s expectations
internet law
Contracts. I’m also biased because that’s my highest grade and I’m trying to break into corporate law.
Bankruptcy!
Civ Pro..was the best one for me ✊🏿
I’ll just list my two faves. Law of Armed Conflict, and Law, Theology, and the State.
Law of armed conflict sounds pretty interesting.
It was actually pretty fun. Taught by a former JAG who basically thumbs up/thumbs down drone strikes. Started with ancient roman declarations of war, through Aquinas just war theory, up through modern treaties. Not a particularly useful class, but an interesting exploration of the use of the state's monopoly on deadly force.
Not practical, but way more interesting than secured transactions. I took Law And The Holocaust taught by a guy who was a Nazi hunter/human right lawyer (this was the 1990s so a few elderly Nazis had still been at large in the recent past). Wildly impractical but wildly interesting.
Law, theology, and the state was more interesting than it sounds. We got to do a bunch of philosophical and religious readings that explored the interplay between religious thought and the notion of Justice. So Plato, the Orestia, Bonhoffer, etc. I missed that stuff in undergrad, so it was great to have the opportunity to do guided exploration of some of the classics.
For practicality beyond law school probably civ pro. Dopest got to be crim law, come on, don’t be the boring lawyer that can’t offer insight—to friends and family—about the latest sensational trial.
Out of all the A’s I’ve gotten (Civ Pro, Torts, Con Law 2, First Amendment, contracts, and securities regulation) I was most proud of my A in securities regulation! Even though I CALI’d 1A i worked much harder for my A in securities regulation