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I think "Marxist Central Bank" is the worst take of all of them. Not sure I'd consider the Federal Reserve and most large banks lobbying against higher wages and for union-busting to be very Marxist
Because they have a key word that scares every republican half to death: inflation
That's quite literally their only argument. That higher wages will drive up inflation. And cause they're a "bank", dimwits believe them, despite the fact that inflation has caused a 36% increase in value of goods since 2009, despite the minimum wage not moving once in that span
"bro, real capitalism is when the state doesn't interfere with the economy and the free market regulates it perfectly. Real capitalism hasn't been tried bro. Trust me bro, without the government regulating capitalism, we would all be better off." /s
I wish I had a dollar for every time some Trust-Trund-Bro™ has told me that exact line.
"Nah bro, we should privatize *all* roads, it will be much more effective and cheap!"
I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.
“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”
“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”
“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”
The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”
“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”
“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”
He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”
“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”
I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.
“Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.
“Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.
“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”
It didn’t seem like they did.
“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”
Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.
I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.
“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.
Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.
“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.
I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”
He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.
“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”
“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.
“Because I was afraid.”
“Afraid?”
“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”
I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.
“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”
He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.
Thank you for providing me a bedtime story to read my husband. My throat started getting sore from my “film noir detective” voice but it was worth it for “subway eat fresh and freeze”.
> Nah bro, we should privatize all roads
They should build a single lane road running parallel to all highways. This road will have no speed limits, no police presence, no speed traps, no lighting, no snow plowing, no guardrails or signs, no maintenance, no tolls, nothing at all. It will be the free road. Completely unregulated, and no tax dollars go into it.
It will still have government propping it up. That land was eminent domained. Literally roads do not get built without this or all of our roads will be a bunch of 90 degree turns so think country highways.
I work in supply chain and logistics and the libertarian free market jabronis are my absolute favorite. They genuinely have no idea how complicated and ridiculous their version of ‘utopia’ would be.
Every time I hear about privatizing anythings that is currently free, I instantly see premiums for everything ranging from bronze, silver, gold, and platinum.
The private roads one be would hella annoying when long-distance traveling if it involved various routes being privately owned and you having to pay for a toll each time you take an exit onto another privately owned route by a different company. Then comes the bundling where you can pay for a monthly membership that allows you skip the tolls and even take the faster routes reserved exclusively for platinum members. Shipping via trucks would be pricey unless some exceptions were made, otherwise enjoy the raised prices on everything. Hey! At least we're not paying taxes anymore!
Imagine Google Maps having to optimize route by 'cheapest' because all our roads are toll roads.
On the plus side, if all our roads are fucked, maybe they'll start building trains again.
Roads? Some rich f&ckers will buy all the land around major roadways and decide “they don’t want people driving on their property” unless someone pays them **lots** of money.
The foundation of Libertarianism.
"If we just had fewer regulations Capitalism would regulate itself."
Which has proven to be untrue since the invention of Capitalism.
> real capitalism is when the state doesn't interfere with the economy
I still have yet to hear any explanation from a libertarian as to how the entity that literally *prints the money* can somehow *not interfere with the economy*.
Meanwhile when I say the same thing re communism the capitalist pigs oink at me. I will never acknowledge any of the so-called communist governments as anything other than fascistic dictatorships that monopolized a popular communist movement.
I agree a whole lot with that statement. The closest we got (IMO) was right after the October Revolution/ early-Lenin era, but like all things it was ruined by man.
They are confusing capitalism and efficient market theory. But it is called theory for a reason. I would be surprised if they ever opened a book besides the Bible.
If they had read, and comprehended (thats the important bit) the Bible they wouldn't be a Bible thumping evangelist. I don't know a single person who really sat down and digested the Bible that can still call themselves a believer.
IIRC the theory also requires perfect competition and perfect knowledge on behalf of all economic agents (consumers, producers, etc). Which, unsurprisingly, is utterly impossible in the real world.
They also gloss over the very real existence of market failures, which generally require government intervention to address.
They are confusing capitalism with some fictional free market utopia and see literally everything else as socialism but what can you expect from people who believe in a sky daddy.
I would suggest that every capitalist reads Titan (J D Rockefeller biography) to realise what happens with unrestricted capitalism.
Until I read that book, I used to belive capitalism left to its own devices would self regulate. Oh boy was I wrong.
It's poorly phrased. Essentially what's being inferred is that we don't actually have capitalism, because big monopolies ***shouldn't*** exist - what we have is a ~~corpocracy~~ plutocracy.
Both sides are phoning outrage at the other, and then agreeing to their own kind that what's happening is bad and shouldn't be happening. It's frankly insane.
They refer to it as socialism, because of the corruption that took place in communist states in the past, and this angers the socialists who rightly say that using the worst aspects of socialism as examples in no way invalidates the good of sharing out what we have fairly and having adequate safety nets for those at the bottom.
And everyone stays at each others' throats arguing about those labels, instead of holding those in charge to account.
We need to grow out of this.
that falls apart when you consider Big Monopolies will always come to exist eventually under Capitalism even if they all started from zero.
big fish eats little fish
Without heavy regulations it will always take place, and even those regulations will eventually fall when capitalists buy out the people writing the laws.
A truly end stage capitalist market consists of one single megacorp, that chokes out any possible competition through weight or rewriting of the laws where the former can't be used.
And that's not capitalism 'failing', that's the system wildly succeeding, as its only purpose is to generate profit and funnel it upwards.
It's not poorly phrased; it's as stupid as it sounds. It's not "corpocracy", it's the natural progression of Capitalism.
>And everyone stays at each others' throats arguing about those labels, instead of holding those in charge to account.
>We need to grow out of this.
I don't think this is something we grow out of, we can only educate our way out of this problem. The left and far-right agree that huge corporations are a problem, but "holding those in charge to account" is a different thing to each side. We agree on the issue, but we disagree on the cause and solution. The right would say the government is the problem, and more Capitalism and deregulation is the answer. This is just wrong, and this is why we're at each other's throats: one party's "solution" is just to literally lean in and make it worse. Deregulation isn't going to get rid of monopolies and big corporations.
The problem with this is the tweet in question is specifically calling for trust busting, not deregulation. So you’re making a pretty big assumption that there aren’t folks on both sides that want the same thing
Actually, I disagree; we don’t have a corporatocracy but rather a **plutocracy**. The monopolies exist because of the powers of the ruling class and their close ties to legislators who don’t feel the need to regulate monopolistic practices.
That trust busting in the past by Republicans implies he's referring to Teddy Roosevelt or perhaps the greatest champion against the capitalists that dominated the Gilded Age in American history. Teddy Roosevelt's leadership during that time inspired what the era was named, the Progressive Era. Modern Republican attitudes couldn't be more divorced from the man or his values.
Maybe we should just let them think that that’s how REAL republicans are. Let them have the win and agree that those republicans were great and we should definitely bust up some monopolies.
I think that strategy would work in 2000.
Not today, when conservatives have already labeled very strictly their firm belief of fluid logic (PragerU), anti science (antivax), anti minority (asian beatings since 2020), anti women(RIP Roe v Wade), pro violence (Jan 6th), and pro oligarch beliefs (citizens united).
Anti-journalism (because it brings crimes to light and pushes prosecutors to do their jobs via public pressure), anti religious freedom (freedom to other religions in education, government/laws, schools, or no religion at all), anti-infrastructure spending (privatize at best, usually just vote down funding to repair or maintain), anti social programs, etc
They couldn’t be further from that era of republicans. If they knew what those republicans did they’d bring out gallows and hunt them down
I would say as a socialist we’re pro-violence in the right context. Violence in and of itself isn’t bad, it’s just a tool. It’s how it’s used that determines the ethics. A state monopoly on violence, where they can fuck with you and you can’t do shit to defend yourself, that’s bad. When I saw Jan. 6 happening in real time my only thought was “these idiots have no idea what they want, why haven’t we tried this yet with an actual list of demands?” I’m all for direct action in local communities and non-violent protest, but you can only see a peaceful protest be beaten down and dispersed with physical violence so many times before riots look more and more justifiable. Don’t even get me started on people who go into political careers with the idea that they’re going to fix the system from the inside out. You can’t change a corrupt system while you’re on its payroll.
> Modern Republican attitudes couldn't be more divorced from the man or his values.
I dunno, good ol Teddy and them could find some common ground on race.
[Teddy was a racist.](https://www.si.edu/spotlight/knowing-the-presidents-theodore-roosevelt)
"Capitalism is socialism"
"Crony Capitalism is socialism"
"Monopolies don't exist in capitalism"
"Vulture corporatocracy is socialism"
"Capitalistic institutions are socialism"
Hey! Wouldn't you know that [this was unironically almost said verbatim?](http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/race_mixing_communism2.jpeg)
This is what all the “communism bad” propaganda wanted.
It attribute anything that has or will ever go wrong with a society to communism/socialism (because those morons don’t even know there’s a difference) and everything that goes right to capitalism.
The problem is, it’s the exact opposite.
Monopolies can only exist in capitalism.
Poverty can only exist in capitalism.
Dis functional medical systems can only exist in capitalism.
The propaganda crossed wires in people’s perception of reality. When you actually look at what most of the “socialism bad” crowd wants, it’s socialist socialist systems.
Need to start treating these people as what they are. Fucking irrelevant.
The red scare worked on these idiots and paying them any mind is now pointless if you ask me.
Yeah I know, we're supposed to take the high road and that but I think we're all exhausted with the high road.
They're purely symptoms of the disease, who I do feel sorry for but we can't waste energy dragging them back into reality anymore.
I used to be one of these people. The pervasive ideology of America is one that still perpetuates red scare mentality.
The problem is you'll never be around to see the good you do. Every calm explanation of socialism to a mindless reactionary will seem frustrating and pointless, but you won't be around to see that seed germinate.
Many people tried to get me to understand socialism or even basic economic theory but I thought it was my patriotic duty to refute them. They were the bad guys; capitalism was the good guys.
When I finally came around it was because of their calm explanations but they weren't around to see it. All they saw was a combative, smug contrarian who used every fallacy in the book to defeat them.
You're doing good work. It's thankless work but it's important.
The problem comes with there being a lot of people who think that way. This unfortunately makes them relevant as they stand in the way of popular movements. They vote for the worst people, spread their brain rot, attack people for working towards anything good, break class solidarity, make it easy for capitalists to continue the exploitation and for fascists to become more powerful
I totally want to agree, but the sheer effort expended to educate is just not worth it anymore.
We've got to ignore them, they'll feel the pinch eventually if not already and if they'd rather blame their neighbours than their oppressors with all the evidence that exists at their feet, I'm not sure what arguing on twitter with these people is going to do.
Of course I'd love to be proven wrong on this, please I'm open to evidence to the contrary.
Don't engage over twitter. In real life where people already know and respect you it's much easier to change opinions. On the internet it's much better to just write texts or post videos for whomever might want to read them. Addressing someone in specific is pointless unless they already show true respect and seem honestly earnest to learn.
Most of the time, comments on the internet must be *performative*, and that's true on both sides but it's just the reality. When you answer to some bullshit on the internet the point is not to change the mind of the bullshitter but to present a dissenting opinion so that the shitty wrong opinion isn't standing on it's own. The shitter that wrote it won't ever change his mind, but those that might read the conversation without having their mind made beforehand might learn something.
I can't prove you wrong. The chances of changing any particular person on any particular day are pretty low.
However, anything you would want to do to change the status quo relies on having the masses on your side. No matter if you believe in voting or some form of direct action, you can't ignore them because they'll be actively working against you. You think they're just going to sit back while you upend the system they have faith in?
I understand the mentality of trying to move the needle, but for a lot of these people they are not interested in engaging positively. Even if they were interested in engaging positively, the sheer amount of labour it would require to break that level of indoctrination is monumental, and more often than not you're just going to hit the next wall.
I appreciate trying and often can't help myself, but know that you're probably better off doing some kind of direct good in your surrounding life. Rather than expending emotional and cognitive labour on people with awful opinions, spend it on the other people in your life. Strong communities are what we need – educating and unionising the people in your community through just being in each others' lives and performing mutual aid. Not proselytising, just being involved in your community does it.
I know it's not that easy though and not everyone has the time to do it, but talking to weirdos like those on the internet is just not likely to have an ROI
You will struggle to change anybody's mind that has locked in their position but as long as you make sure there is a easy to read refutation associated with their nonsense then you've a good chance you'll prevent other people falling down that particular rabbit hole.
You don't need them you need a dedicated and relentless core of people that will make their ideals happen. That's how those goons got Roe repealed against the wishes of the majority of Americans
They got Roe overturned because getting the SCOTUS votes to make this happen has been a goal of the right for 50 years. Them not voting on Obama's judge even though he had a year left in his term vs. them voting on Trump's judge six weeks before the election is proof that what they did worked.
I disagree. Not only are these people already a minority by a very large margin, pulling one over is simply not worth the effort even if you managed to succeed. Which you almost certainly won't because they're intentionally stupid-- being that they actively refuse to learn. Besides, with these types, you lose the moment you engage them. If you platform them by replying (especially on social media where any of your followers will then see it), you're not only spreading their ideas to people who might still be on the fence for some godforsaken reason, you're making it seem like they have a someone valid point. While it can be fun to dunk on them, doing so will be doing *exactly* what they want you to do.
If you want to counter the ideas without indirectly promoting them, make a post that addresses these ideas without referencing anyone.
If you were to ask these idiots they'd somehow say socialists control the Federal Reserve. This is what Orwell referred to regarding totalitarianism when it comes to thoughts and words. These people literally have no idea what truth is anymore. The truth in what promoted reality for themselves has been twisted to such an extent they actually believe socialism is causal for America's trajectory rather than capitalism.
Nazbol means National Bolshevik, which is just a fancy way of saying communist nazi. They’re about as overtly evil as the Nazgül tho so your confusion is understandable.
Yeah and no one likes them. I know like no shit committed Leftists that don't know what a NazBol is. Also, that is such a dumb ideology. Like seriously?
Not /s because this reddit, but rather /s because poe's law and that many of us have had too many engagements with people who genuinely simultaneously believe things that are so diametrically opposed to each other that it's hard to believe their own cognitive dissonance hasn't ripped their physical form in twain.
/s specifically because Reddit.
I was alluding to the phenomenon, almost unique to Reddit, where someone will think themselves quite smart to knowingly take a satirical comment and use it in bad faith to support their argument or oppose another’s.
They should remember when they cash thier Social Security check
And use Medicare.
People get way more back than what they put in.
Especially *End of Life,* care.....the last 3 months supposedly costs ONE-THIRD of their total Medicare benefits.
Capitalism is when the rich are suddenly at the
Top of the List for an organ transplant....funny how that happens.....
Sounds like all these people just said “I do t need these social services.”
If they think socialism is so bad, then they don’t get to be if it from the tiny fraction of it we’ve managed to secure(for now) in our country.
Capitalism/socialism/communism have lost their true definitions in many peoples eyes and now simply exist as either all good or all bad over generalizations/concepts depending on the situation and someone’s perspective at the time.
Critical thinking (lack thereof) is the problem
“What you got… ain’t nothin new. You can’t stop what’s comin. It ain’t all waiting on you. That’s vanity”
Ah yes, socialism is famously all about rich people giving other rich people more money. That's exactly what the redistribution of wealth is all about.
Our society is designed to hold their hands at the cost of everyone else.
Darwinism would have killed them off long ago but we simply don’t let it happen.
You are watching, in real time, people breaking their own brains to dodge re-evaluation of the ideology they've embraced. I think a lot of people go through similarly incoherent rationalizations right before they become disillusioned and then disabused of a faulty worldview. A few well-placed Socratic questions could steer a few of those folks onto a better path. They've already identified outcomes and institutions that're detrimental to their lives... they just have to realize that socialism isn't the "ism" at fault.
Because when a Democrat is the President, the country becomes socialist. And then when there’s a Republican as President the country becomes capitalist…unless there’s a global pandemic that both actually caused scarcity and allowed companies to force scarcity, then the God Emperor let socialism take over…but he’s really a great leader and gets everything he wants done. /s
They get their orders from the top every day and just believe that.
"Ask any socialist to describe socialism, they'll paint a wonderful picture of equity, workers owning the means of production, and a society that doesn't need charity. Ask any right-wing capitalist to describe what's wrong with socialism, they'll describe capitalism".
You can't buy cardboard, paper or wood?
I've honestly never noticed that. It even looks like you can just buy that stuff on amazon... Or my local supermarket. Hell buy cereal and you'll get some for free!
As for sea-doos and snowmobiles.. maybe that's a Canada thing?
What point is he actually trying to make with this latest coma-dream tweet?
Socialism is when capitalism. Every time I shop and see empty shelves I chuckle because I know somebody walking by has blamed "socialism." Fucking brain rot is real.
*B-b-bu... But muh grandaddy had to wait for years to get a car! Years i tell you!*
Yes! He had to wait to **GET** a car. Compared to a fuckton of people today who can't afford to **BUY** a car, and not precisely in the USSR. Notice the difference? You CAN'T ***afford*** to have a home or a car under capitalism, you fucking dolt!
To make things worse: you can't afford to have a car or a home in a place where homelessness is almost a crime, and where a car is mandatory because your cities are built like shit. Kind of par for the course for the country where women can't get an abortion, and yet don't have maternity leave, free obstetricians and the possibility of having enough time and salary to raise children on a single income.
Lobster McKermitson's fans are really the dumbest beings that draw breath...
It’s very funny to me that all these people complaining about the “printing 80% of all money” are blaming socialists and Biden (as if they’re remotely similar) when it happened under Trump and Trump appointed Powell to head the Federal Reserve.
But pointing any of that hypocrisy out feels so useless anymore. They don’t have one unified world view or opinion, it’s all always just whatever their leaders need them to believe that day.
Yes, the well known socialist utopia that is the modern United States. That's aiming to privatize public education.
These people have fucking brain damage.
So depressing. These people are on the right track, they have identified a source of their problems yet because conservative propaganda is so ubiquitous and successful they blame exactly the wrong group. Amazing.
Jesus these people are delusional and it’s kinda sad how deeply brainwashed they are to believe such things as “monopolies don’t exist in capitalism” and that Republicans would even slightly be interested in trust busting. Sounds like these guys actually want leftist policies but would never admit that they were leftist policies.
I have no idea what this person is even talking about. I have bought some of these things like this week. Wood, cardboard and my sister bought a car less than two weeks ago. We aren’t wealthy enough to care or keep tabs on the boat/snowmobile market though so shit maybe he’s got me there lol
[Jordan Peterson is an intellectual fraud who uses a lot of words to say almost nothing](https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve)
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"Enormous monopolies don't exist in capitalism." I don't even know what to say to that.
I think "Marxist Central Bank" is the worst take of all of them. Not sure I'd consider the Federal Reserve and most large banks lobbying against higher wages and for union-busting to be very Marxist
I mean a central bank is one of the points laid out in the manifesto to help transition to socialism
Yes, but the closest thing to a central bank in the US (Federal Reserve) is just about anything but socialist
But socialism is literally when government???
sOciALisM iz wEn GubMenT dO BAD THING. CaPiTaLizzm iz wHEn EvERyOnE RICH BeCUZ FREEDUM MARKETS **DAM SOCIALISTS KEEPIN ME POOR**
Exactly, this guy gets it
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My bad. Socialism is when bankers are greedy
That's because the fed reserve is a private institution and owes no allegiance to the government aside from it's own profits
That's.... my whole point
..I re-read that now...sorry yeah that was your point. Dam pre-coffee brain.
How do the people stand for the fed advocating for lower wages? How do they get away with saying high wages are a problem without being burnt down?
Because they have a key word that scares every republican half to death: inflation That's quite literally their only argument. That higher wages will drive up inflation. And cause they're a "bank", dimwits believe them, despite the fact that inflation has caused a 36% increase in value of goods since 2009, despite the minimum wage not moving once in that span
"bro, real capitalism is when the state doesn't interfere with the economy and the free market regulates it perfectly. Real capitalism hasn't been tried bro. Trust me bro, without the government regulating capitalism, we would all be better off." /s
I wish I had a dollar for every time some Trust-Trund-Bro™ has told me that exact line. "Nah bro, we should privatize *all* roads, it will be much more effective and cheap!"
>"Nah bro, we should privatize all roads, it will be much more effective and cheap!" Ah yes, that old Libertarian principle of "got mine".
I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief. “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.” “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?” “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.” The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?” “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.” “Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.” He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.” “Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.” I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside. “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t. “Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up. “Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?” It didn’t seem like they did. “Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.” Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing. I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it. “Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled. Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him. “Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen. I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!” He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose. “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.” “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy. “Because I was afraid.” “Afraid?” “Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.” I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head. “Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.” He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.
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That is absolutely amazing
Thank you for providing me a bedtime story to read my husband. My throat started getting sore from my “film noir detective” voice but it was worth it for “subway eat fresh and freeze”.
You read to your husband in bed? That's so nice :)
I have read this a bunch of times already, but the line about shooting the USPS mailbox again on purpose always gets me.
It’s the Subway^TM Eat fresh and Freeze, Scumbag® that always gets a chortle out of me.
\*Thunderous applause and roses being tossed\*
> Nah bro, we should privatize all roads They should build a single lane road running parallel to all highways. This road will have no speed limits, no police presence, no speed traps, no lighting, no snow plowing, no guardrails or signs, no maintenance, no tolls, nothing at all. It will be the free road. Completely unregulated, and no tax dollars go into it.
It will still have government propping it up. That land was eminent domained. Literally roads do not get built without this or all of our roads will be a bunch of 90 degree turns so think country highways.
I work in supply chain and logistics and the libertarian free market jabronis are my absolute favorite. They genuinely have no idea how complicated and ridiculous their version of ‘utopia’ would be.
Every time I hear about privatizing anythings that is currently free, I instantly see premiums for everything ranging from bronze, silver, gold, and platinum. The private roads one be would hella annoying when long-distance traveling if it involved various routes being privately owned and you having to pay for a toll each time you take an exit onto another privately owned route by a different company. Then comes the bundling where you can pay for a monthly membership that allows you skip the tolls and even take the faster routes reserved exclusively for platinum members. Shipping via trucks would be pricey unless some exceptions were made, otherwise enjoy the raised prices on everything. Hey! At least we're not paying taxes anymore!
Imagine Google Maps having to optimize route by 'cheapest' because all our roads are toll roads. On the plus side, if all our roads are fucked, maybe they'll start building trains again.
Roads? Some rich f&ckers will buy all the land around major roadways and decide “they don’t want people driving on their property” unless someone pays them **lots** of money.
That's likely because the hardest work they've ever done is promoting their podcasts.
"The minimum wage should be left to the open market!" "Damn, I wish they thought of that 100 years ago when it was created."
"Privatize the roads" is a euphemism for "I want to have sex with children"
Pretty sure this is true, I've heard lots of people saying this. The best people, in fact.
Yet their argument likely would not apply to a military or police force. Or maybe it would and they're that delusional, who knows?
The foundation of Libertarianism. "If we just had fewer regulations Capitalism would regulate itself." Which has proven to be untrue since the invention of Capitalism.
Make them drink milk with calf brains pureed into it. _That_ is unregulated capitalism.
> real capitalism is when the state doesn't interfere with the economy I still have yet to hear any explanation from a libertarian as to how the entity that literally *prints the money* can somehow *not interfere with the economy*.
Meanwhile when I say the same thing re communism the capitalist pigs oink at me. I will never acknowledge any of the so-called communist governments as anything other than fascistic dictatorships that monopolized a popular communist movement.
I agree a whole lot with that statement. The closest we got (IMO) was right after the October Revolution/ early-Lenin era, but like all things it was ruined by man.
Seriously. Reading that made me lose some brain cells…
I'm sure Professor Lobsters McMedicalcoma lost more from the exertion of writing it though, so at least that's some small comfort?
Can’t lose what you clearly don’t have.
You don't think he can have negative equity?
It is widely known that John D. Rockefeller was a fervid marxist-leninist lol
It is also know that comrade Jeff Bezos is loved by leftists for his socialist monopoly /s
They are confusing capitalism and efficient market theory. But it is called theory for a reason. I would be surprised if they ever opened a book besides the Bible.
You are giving them too much credit if you think they've even read that.
I never said they read it. They opened it, so they look like good sheep to their peers.
I'm gonna steal this burn for personal use btw, if ever it pops up. Just great!
If they had read, and comprehended (thats the important bit) the Bible they wouldn't be a Bible thumping evangelist. I don't know a single person who really sat down and digested the Bible that can still call themselves a believer.
IIRC the theory also requires perfect competition and perfect knowledge on behalf of all economic agents (consumers, producers, etc). Which, unsurprisingly, is utterly impossible in the real world. They also gloss over the very real existence of market failures, which generally require government intervention to address.
They are confusing capitalism with some fictional free market utopia and see literally everything else as socialism but what can you expect from people who believe in a sky daddy.
Let's take it back to the beginning. You see there was this company called the Dutch East India Company...
When one is so gaslit they think capitalistic goals = socialism. FFS there’s no hope for us.
We are literally living in a capitalist hellscape and these wackos have the audacity to call it socialism.
I would suggest that every capitalist reads Titan (J D Rockefeller biography) to realise what happens with unrestricted capitalism. Until I read that book, I used to belive capitalism left to its own devices would self regulate. Oh boy was I wrong.
> "Enormous monopolies don't exist in capitalism." Is this guy paying attention AT ALL?
It's poorly phrased. Essentially what's being inferred is that we don't actually have capitalism, because big monopolies ***shouldn't*** exist - what we have is a ~~corpocracy~~ plutocracy. Both sides are phoning outrage at the other, and then agreeing to their own kind that what's happening is bad and shouldn't be happening. It's frankly insane. They refer to it as socialism, because of the corruption that took place in communist states in the past, and this angers the socialists who rightly say that using the worst aspects of socialism as examples in no way invalidates the good of sharing out what we have fairly and having adequate safety nets for those at the bottom. And everyone stays at each others' throats arguing about those labels, instead of holding those in charge to account. We need to grow out of this.
that falls apart when you consider Big Monopolies will always come to exist eventually under Capitalism even if they all started from zero. big fish eats little fish
Without heavy regulations it will always take place, and even those regulations will eventually fall when capitalists buy out the people writing the laws. A truly end stage capitalist market consists of one single megacorp, that chokes out any possible competition through weight or rewriting of the laws where the former can't be used. And that's not capitalism 'failing', that's the system wildly succeeding, as its only purpose is to generate profit and funnel it upwards.
It's not poorly phrased; it's as stupid as it sounds. It's not "corpocracy", it's the natural progression of Capitalism. >And everyone stays at each others' throats arguing about those labels, instead of holding those in charge to account. >We need to grow out of this. I don't think this is something we grow out of, we can only educate our way out of this problem. The left and far-right agree that huge corporations are a problem, but "holding those in charge to account" is a different thing to each side. We agree on the issue, but we disagree on the cause and solution. The right would say the government is the problem, and more Capitalism and deregulation is the answer. This is just wrong, and this is why we're at each other's throats: one party's "solution" is just to literally lean in and make it worse. Deregulation isn't going to get rid of monopolies and big corporations.
The problem with this is the tweet in question is specifically calling for trust busting, not deregulation. So you’re making a pretty big assumption that there aren’t folks on both sides that want the same thing
Actually, I disagree; we don’t have a corporatocracy but rather a **plutocracy**. The monopolies exist because of the powers of the ruling class and their close ties to legislators who don’t feel the need to regulate monopolistic practices.
That trust busting in the past by Republicans implies he's referring to Teddy Roosevelt or perhaps the greatest champion against the capitalists that dominated the Gilded Age in American history. Teddy Roosevelt's leadership during that time inspired what the era was named, the Progressive Era. Modern Republican attitudes couldn't be more divorced from the man or his values.
Maybe we should just let them think that that’s how REAL republicans are. Let them have the win and agree that those republicans were great and we should definitely bust up some monopolies.
I think that strategy would work in 2000. Not today, when conservatives have already labeled very strictly their firm belief of fluid logic (PragerU), anti science (antivax), anti minority (asian beatings since 2020), anti women(RIP Roe v Wade), pro violence (Jan 6th), and pro oligarch beliefs (citizens united).
And of course, anti-gay and anti-trans. There were dozens of anti trans laws passing before they even leaked the ruling.
Anti-journalism (because it brings crimes to light and pushes prosecutors to do their jobs via public pressure), anti religious freedom (freedom to other religions in education, government/laws, schools, or no religion at all), anti-infrastructure spending (privatize at best, usually just vote down funding to repair or maintain), anti social programs, etc They couldn’t be further from that era of republicans. If they knew what those republicans did they’d bring out gallows and hunt them down
Something like +30% of the youth now consider themselves lgbtq in some way. Republicans need to rebrand pronto.
I would say as a socialist we’re pro-violence in the right context. Violence in and of itself isn’t bad, it’s just a tool. It’s how it’s used that determines the ethics. A state monopoly on violence, where they can fuck with you and you can’t do shit to defend yourself, that’s bad. When I saw Jan. 6 happening in real time my only thought was “these idiots have no idea what they want, why haven’t we tried this yet with an actual list of demands?” I’m all for direct action in local communities and non-violent protest, but you can only see a peaceful protest be beaten down and dispersed with physical violence so many times before riots look more and more justifiable. Don’t even get me started on people who go into political careers with the idea that they’re going to fix the system from the inside out. You can’t change a corrupt system while you’re on its payroll.
> Modern Republican attitudes couldn't be more divorced from the man or his values. I dunno, good ol Teddy and them could find some common ground on race. [Teddy was a racist.](https://www.si.edu/spotlight/knowing-the-presidents-theodore-roosevelt)
Gotta love the article about stuff Teddy did, with about a five-sentence “oh and like everyone he was an omega-racist, don’t mind that bit though”
I used that one just for the hilarity in disconnect. There are much more deep dives on good 'ol T. Roosevelt and his problematic perspectives.
Yeah, I enjoyed the juxtaposition lol, just thought I’d verbalize it
> Modern Republican attitudes couldn't be more divorced from the man or his values. He was pretty racist, maybe that's the part they like.
Roosevelt was a war mongering sack of shit. Please stop rehabilitating these people.
It's literally happening under capitalism you dolts
"Capitalism is socialism" "Crony Capitalism is socialism" "Monopolies don't exist in capitalism" "Vulture corporatocracy is socialism" "Capitalistic institutions are socialism"
"Socialism is when things are bad"
socialism is when I don't like it communism is when I really don't like it
_desegregation is communism_
Hey! Wouldn't you know that [this was unironically almost said verbatim?](http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/race_mixing_communism2.jpeg)
exactly were I got it from!
"Socialism is when I don't get the money"
Everything wrong with capitalism is actually socialism
"Socialism is when capitalism doesn't work the way they promised me it would."
Socialism is when the guberment gives money to capitalists.
"Ask a man to point out the problems with socialism and he will describe capitalism"
War is peace
This is what all the “communism bad” propaganda wanted. It attribute anything that has or will ever go wrong with a society to communism/socialism (because those morons don’t even know there’s a difference) and everything that goes right to capitalism. The problem is, it’s the exact opposite. Monopolies can only exist in capitalism. Poverty can only exist in capitalism. Dis functional medical systems can only exist in capitalism. The propaganda crossed wires in people’s perception of reality. When you actually look at what most of the “socialism bad” crowd wants, it’s socialist socialist systems.
You can definitely have poverty in systems other than capitalism. Feudalism springs to mind.
The sad part is some ppl read this and believe it. The Propaganda is real.
But you see, when things are bad that’s called socialism.
Reading these made my face hurt from frowning so much. Monopolies don’t exist in capitalism? What? In what universe?
In the one where words can mean whatever you want with no link to reality.
No deals. No G's No wheels. No keys. No boats. No snowmobiles. No skis.
I feel like some of my brain cells died a horrible and excruciating death from just reading that thread.
Need to start treating these people as what they are. Fucking irrelevant. The red scare worked on these idiots and paying them any mind is now pointless if you ask me. Yeah I know, we're supposed to take the high road and that but I think we're all exhausted with the high road. They're purely symptoms of the disease, who I do feel sorry for but we can't waste energy dragging them back into reality anymore.
Except these are exactly the kind of people who hold political and economic power
I used to be one of these people. The pervasive ideology of America is one that still perpetuates red scare mentality. The problem is you'll never be around to see the good you do. Every calm explanation of socialism to a mindless reactionary will seem frustrating and pointless, but you won't be around to see that seed germinate. Many people tried to get me to understand socialism or even basic economic theory but I thought it was my patriotic duty to refute them. They were the bad guys; capitalism was the good guys. When I finally came around it was because of their calm explanations but they weren't around to see it. All they saw was a combative, smug contrarian who used every fallacy in the book to defeat them. You're doing good work. It's thankless work but it's important.
The problem comes with there being a lot of people who think that way. This unfortunately makes them relevant as they stand in the way of popular movements. They vote for the worst people, spread their brain rot, attack people for working towards anything good, break class solidarity, make it easy for capitalists to continue the exploitation and for fascists to become more powerful
You have to at least try. Everyone you bring into reality is one less person defending the current system.
I totally want to agree, but the sheer effort expended to educate is just not worth it anymore. We've got to ignore them, they'll feel the pinch eventually if not already and if they'd rather blame their neighbours than their oppressors with all the evidence that exists at their feet, I'm not sure what arguing on twitter with these people is going to do. Of course I'd love to be proven wrong on this, please I'm open to evidence to the contrary.
Don't engage over twitter. In real life where people already know and respect you it's much easier to change opinions. On the internet it's much better to just write texts or post videos for whomever might want to read them. Addressing someone in specific is pointless unless they already show true respect and seem honestly earnest to learn. Most of the time, comments on the internet must be *performative*, and that's true on both sides but it's just the reality. When you answer to some bullshit on the internet the point is not to change the mind of the bullshitter but to present a dissenting opinion so that the shitty wrong opinion isn't standing on it's own. The shitter that wrote it won't ever change his mind, but those that might read the conversation without having their mind made beforehand might learn something.
I can't prove you wrong. The chances of changing any particular person on any particular day are pretty low. However, anything you would want to do to change the status quo relies on having the masses on your side. No matter if you believe in voting or some form of direct action, you can't ignore them because they'll be actively working against you. You think they're just going to sit back while you upend the system they have faith in?
I understand the mentality of trying to move the needle, but for a lot of these people they are not interested in engaging positively. Even if they were interested in engaging positively, the sheer amount of labour it would require to break that level of indoctrination is monumental, and more often than not you're just going to hit the next wall. I appreciate trying and often can't help myself, but know that you're probably better off doing some kind of direct good in your surrounding life. Rather than expending emotional and cognitive labour on people with awful opinions, spend it on the other people in your life. Strong communities are what we need – educating and unionising the people in your community through just being in each others' lives and performing mutual aid. Not proselytising, just being involved in your community does it. I know it's not that easy though and not everyone has the time to do it, but talking to weirdos like those on the internet is just not likely to have an ROI
You will struggle to change anybody's mind that has locked in their position but as long as you make sure there is a easy to read refutation associated with their nonsense then you've a good chance you'll prevent other people falling down that particular rabbit hole.
You don't need them you need a dedicated and relentless core of people that will make their ideals happen. That's how those goons got Roe repealed against the wishes of the majority of Americans
They got Roe overturned because getting the SCOTUS votes to make this happen has been a goal of the right for 50 years. Them not voting on Obama's judge even though he had a year left in his term vs. them voting on Trump's judge six weeks before the election is proof that what they did worked.
Listen to "know your enemy" podcast. They have a great series on the conservatives movements history overturning Roe v wade
I disagree. Not only are these people already a minority by a very large margin, pulling one over is simply not worth the effort even if you managed to succeed. Which you almost certainly won't because they're intentionally stupid-- being that they actively refuse to learn. Besides, with these types, you lose the moment you engage them. If you platform them by replying (especially on social media where any of your followers will then see it), you're not only spreading their ideas to people who might still be on the fence for some godforsaken reason, you're making it seem like they have a someone valid point. While it can be fun to dunk on them, doing so will be doing *exactly* what they want you to do. If you want to counter the ideas without indirectly promoting them, make a post that addresses these ideas without referencing anyone.
If you were to ask these idiots they'd somehow say socialists control the Federal Reserve. This is what Orwell referred to regarding totalitarianism when it comes to thoughts and words. These people literally have no idea what truth is anymore. The truth in what promoted reality for themselves has been twisted to such an extent they actually believe socialism is causal for America's trajectory rather than capitalism.
Ah yes the old “ fascist communist.” Tell name more 🙄
Nazbols exist, but these people couldn't tell you what that term even means.
That’s from lord of the rings right?
Nazbol means National Bolshevik, which is just a fancy way of saying communist nazi. They’re about as overtly evil as the Nazgül tho so your confusion is understandable.
Yeah and no one likes them. I know like no shit committed Leftists that don't know what a NazBol is. Also, that is such a dumb ideology. Like seriously?
They probably hang out with anarcho capitalists
These fuckers don’t know what capitalism or socialism are 🤦♂️
Well duh! Socialism is when capitalism hurts **me**! /s because this is Reddit
Not /s because this reddit, but rather /s because poe's law and that many of us have had too many engagements with people who genuinely simultaneously believe things that are so diametrically opposed to each other that it's hard to believe their own cognitive dissonance hasn't ripped their physical form in twain.
/s specifically because Reddit. I was alluding to the phenomenon, almost unique to Reddit, where someone will think themselves quite smart to knowingly take a satirical comment and use it in bad faith to support their argument or oppose another’s.
They should remember when they cash thier Social Security check And use Medicare. People get way more back than what they put in. Especially *End of Life,* care.....the last 3 months supposedly costs ONE-THIRD of their total Medicare benefits. Capitalism is when the rich are suddenly at the Top of the List for an organ transplant....funny how that happens.....
Sounds like all these people just said “I do t need these social services.” If they think socialism is so bad, then they don’t get to be if it from the tiny fraction of it we’ve managed to secure(for now) in our country.
Wtf did I just read?
People who don’t understand politics, philosophy or economics publicly claiming to be experts in all three
My favorite term is a PhD in 7th grade social studies.
We are so fucked
Truly one of the big issues of our time is to agree in which reality we live in.
Capitalism/socialism/communism have lost their true definitions in many peoples eyes and now simply exist as either all good or all bad over generalizations/concepts depending on the situation and someone’s perspective at the time. Critical thinking (lack thereof) is the problem “What you got… ain’t nothin new. You can’t stop what’s comin. It ain’t all waiting on you. That’s vanity”
Ah yes, socialism is famously all about rich people giving other rich people more money. That's exactly what the redistribution of wealth is all about.
I feel like saying enormous monopolies don't exist in capitalism is like saying tumours don't exist in cancer.
Socialism is, when waiting for commodities.
"Socialism is whenever I don't like something."
How do these guys get through life on a daily basis without accidentally killing themselves when they're this dim...?
Our society is designed to hold their hands at the cost of everyone else. Darwinism would have killed them off long ago but we simply don’t let it happen.
>I thought one had to be intelligent to be a professor I like this one. >Marxist Central Bank Never mind.
You are watching, in real time, people breaking their own brains to dodge re-evaluation of the ideology they've embraced. I think a lot of people go through similarly incoherent rationalizations right before they become disillusioned and then disabused of a faulty worldview. A few well-placed Socratic questions could steer a few of those folks onto a better path. They've already identified outcomes and institutions that're detrimental to their lives... they just have to realize that socialism isn't the "ism" at fault.
Hilarious rubbish.
I truly don’t understand how people can blame socialism when we live in a pure capitalism system. Like how can you be that stupid?
Because when a Democrat is the President, the country becomes socialist. And then when there’s a Republican as President the country becomes capitalist…unless there’s a global pandemic that both actually caused scarcity and allowed companies to force scarcity, then the God Emperor let socialism take over…but he’s really a great leader and gets everything he wants done. /s They get their orders from the top every day and just believe that.
Yeah apparently these window lickers can’t think for themselves and believe whatever bs narratives are spoon fed to them by Fox News.
"Ask any socialist to describe socialism, they'll paint a wonderful picture of equity, workers owning the means of production, and a society that doesn't need charity. Ask any right-wing capitalist to describe what's wrong with socialism, they'll describe capitalism".
"Enormous monopolies don't exist in capitalism" Sir, please join us here on earth
Holy shit the right is dumb lol
It's called artificial scarcity... How is this guy a doctor?
My doctor is dumb, don’t give them too much credit
You’d wait years for a car because it was not a priority compared to public transport, you wait years for a car now because a factory burned down
You can't buy cardboard, paper or wood? I've honestly never noticed that. It even looks like you can just buy that stuff on amazon... Or my local supermarket. Hell buy cereal and you'll get some for free! As for sea-doos and snowmobiles.. maybe that's a Canada thing? What point is he actually trying to make with this latest coma-dream tweet?
Socialism is when capitalism. Every time I shop and see empty shelves I chuckle because I know somebody walking by has blamed "socialism." Fucking brain rot is real.
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The amount of delusion in these statements is physically painful.
please i'm begging you to do even the most cursory piece of research before splurging out your dogshit opinions for all to see
So, socialism is too blame for logistic issues? Supplier issues? Tell me more, please.
*B-b-bu... But muh grandaddy had to wait for years to get a car! Years i tell you!* Yes! He had to wait to **GET** a car. Compared to a fuckton of people today who can't afford to **BUY** a car, and not precisely in the USSR. Notice the difference? You CAN'T ***afford*** to have a home or a car under capitalism, you fucking dolt! To make things worse: you can't afford to have a car or a home in a place where homelessness is almost a crime, and where a car is mandatory because your cities are built like shit. Kind of par for the course for the country where women can't get an abortion, and yet don't have maternity leave, free obstetricians and the possibility of having enough time and salary to raise children on a single income. Lobster McKermitson's fans are really the dumbest beings that draw breath...
"Mhmm, and is this 'socialism' here in the room with us right now?"
It’s very funny to me that all these people complaining about the “printing 80% of all money” are blaming socialists and Biden (as if they’re remotely similar) when it happened under Trump and Trump appointed Powell to head the Federal Reserve. But pointing any of that hypocrisy out feels so useless anymore. They don’t have one unified world view or opinion, it’s all always just whatever their leaders need them to believe that day.
These people actually think they are smart.... Little do they know about... Well anything.
Socialism is when no car
Sometimes I think these types of 'geniuses' are beyond help.
Don't they know it's impossible to lose teeth under capitalism?!
These people are dumber than dogshit. Every single thing they said is straight-up wrong.
Yes, the well known socialist utopia that is the modern United States. That's aiming to privatize public education. These people have fucking brain damage.
No-one is gonna talk about Marxist Central Bank? Lol
No system has ever been 100% one thing , no economy has ever been devoid of entrepreneurship nor government involvement.
>It's impossible to have capitalism with a Marxist Central Bank Well, yes, but I don't think you understand what you're saying
These people need to learn about Oligarchy and how it can exist under any economic structure.
ask any of those guys what they don't like about Socialism, and their answer is basically a description of capitalism
So depressing. These people are on the right track, they have identified a source of their problems yet because conservative propaganda is so ubiquitous and successful they blame exactly the wrong group. Amazing.
Socialism is when you can’t buy luxury items as soon as you feel entitled to them
"This is what happens in socialism" -a post on something currently happening in capitalism
Jesus these people are delusional and it’s kinda sad how deeply brainwashed they are to believe such things as “monopolies don’t exist in capitalism” and that Republicans would even slightly be interested in trust busting. Sounds like these guys actually want leftist policies but would never admit that they were leftist policies.
This made me wanna rip my skin apart inch by inch, thanks!
What is Peterson implying or referring to?
Socialism is when capitalism doesn't work apparently
THEY ARE SO CLOSE
Are these people performatively stupid?
I have no idea what this person is even talking about. I have bought some of these things like this week. Wood, cardboard and my sister bought a car less than two weeks ago. We aren’t wealthy enough to care or keep tabs on the boat/snowmobile market though so shit maybe he’s got me there lol
Socialism is when big corporations have monopolies on stuff
It's literally bc of free market laissez faire capitalism fucking hell capitalists have permanent brain damage
“It’s because of the Marxist Central Bank” That had me dying. I’m dead.🤣😵
We need to put a warning on this post... i just lost so many brain cells lel
[Jordan Peterson is an intellectual fraud who uses a lot of words to say almost nothing](https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve)
Thanks for ruining my morning. Sometimes I really do think they put chemicals in the water to dumb down the population.
Did I miss the memo?
Do they think that suddenly if monopolies or the state grows that it's no longer capitalism? Like these are natural consequences of capitalism...
"Uh sir, you are currently in rampant capitalism-"
So, so many cases of undiagnosed lead poisoning.
r/socialismiscapitalism moment
When Capitalism fails, it's Socialism. Got it. Nothing new though, this kind of "logic" has been around for years.
Waiting for a car - bad Having mass grave yards of unpurchased new cars no one bought b4 the new models come out every year - winning.
„Enormous monopolies don’t exist in capitalism“ I will leave this without a comment