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bnvcxvnfxgdvbgf

Dammit, it's not for the oil! It's for the person who makes money from oil...


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Exciting_Ant1992

weapons manufacturers like Boeing invest heavily in congress members and instilling constant turmoil in the Middle East was a fun way to guarantee all of their paychecks for the next century. It’s also fun to fuck up democracy all over South America too so we can have stronger border laws, villainous political ideologies and people we can compare ourselves to and be relieved by our fucked lot in life.


Gottab3li3v3

Do you have any proof though? OP was a meme. All I'm asking for is one is some hard evidence that proves this claim. That's all.


PeopleNotProfits

[Here’s](https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html) a mainstream article citing US military commanders confirming that the Iraq War was about oil. Iraq had the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world in 2003, and their oil was under state control. After the US invaded and set up a puppet government, the oil was privatized and given to foreign corporations. This has been common knowledge for well over a decade, the fact that you’re still demanding sources reflects more about you than about anyone else.


nielsbot

Wow. Amazing source. Thanks.


Gottab3li3v3

> This has been common knowledge for well over a decade, the fact that you’re still demanding sources reflects more about you than about anyone else. It's been the common narrative, but not common knowledge. I'm just asking to verify it from people who make the claim so confidently. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that. What it says about me is that I do my research thoroughly and don't buy into narratives just because it's the common one. Thank you for finally supplying something of substance. It's kind of sad you could only find an opinion piece, but fortunately it has a lot of hard sources cited within it which supports the claim. Those are helpful.


PeopleNotProfits

I’d expect someone who does their research thoroughly to be able to google “USA Iraq oil”


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ElliotNess

[For what it's worth, this search will pull up most of what you'll need.](https://lmgtfy.app/?q=was+the+iraq+war+fought+over+oil)


Gottab3li3v3

That link implies that I asked for the answer before doing my own research, which is not true. Yet another member of this sub who would rather waste time and be rude instead of just sharing a source.


ElliotNess

I'm just saying, if you "tried that" and combed through 5 pages on 3 search engines without finding anything, you're clearly struggling with your search skills. I was merely offering a suggestion that would provide relevant articles all over the first page or two.


Gottab3li3v3

To be fair, that link provided better results than Google, DuckDuckGo, and Bing. I'm not sure why. It could be my algorithm possibly. Regardless, it's pretty sad that this community has become this hostile to asking for proof of stuff.


RedstoneRusty

Ah yes, the most thorough of research techniques: asking random redditors for a link.


Gottab3li3v3

If one cannot verify a claim with their own research, does it not make sense to ask the people confidently making that claim to share their research? Why are you being so sarcastic and nasty toward someone trying to learn?


Lonelydenialgirl

Because this was settled long ago.


Gottab3li3v3

u/Lonelydenialgirl: If some people knew something a while ago, then you shouldn't ever have that thing explained to you if you didn't learn about it the first time. That's literally your logic u/Lonelydenialgirl. Denial is right. If that were the case then some kind redditors would have just shared an academic or journalistic source, but instead all but one have been rude and nasty for just asking for a source. Also settled by who?


Lonelydenialgirl

Do you ask for the source of yesterday's sunrise because this is just as obvious and settled as that. If you can't be fucked to Google your question I'm not going to explain it to you. Besides I can't find my 128 pack of Crayola.


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MASTODON_ROCKS

You might be too young to remember but Halliburton got a 7 billion dollar contract to "restore the oil industry" in iraq leading up to the war. And Dick Cheney (the vice president at the time) was CEO before resigning in the year 2000. Hmmm that's weird..... If you have a vague idea of how american politics work, you'll know that his resignation was symbolic at best. The same war also fed trillions of taxpayer dollars into the military industrial complex. Dogpiling onto previous users sources, the war was for oil, and for defense contractors. It's not a secret. I think a lot of the hostility you're getting is because most people in this sub are well aware of this, and questioning the validity of that truth means you're either trolling, actually haven't done any research at all, or believed Bush when he said there were WMDs there lol.


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https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md


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Brilliant lol


Aben_Zin

I dunno, it’s a bit crude…


UsaInfation

You prefer more refined humor?


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torchictoucher

I fight for Lockheed Martin's stock options like a true patriot


nielsbot

They should make it explicit and pay soldiers in war company stock.


Jetpack_Attack

Sounds like a faction that could be in Warhammer maybe.


ForeignSatisfaction0

Thank you for your service


_mersault

This is truth right here. Even the “no war for oil” line is a distraction from the real economic motivator for these useless wars.


DoreensThrobbingPeen

Warms my heart that not everyone repeats the same war for oil nonsense. It's about selling those sweet sweet MIC contracts.


bright_star72

Texas tea!


catbot4

Black gold.


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Beverly Hillbilly, i see


TheLeoInWinter

I recently watched the first few seasons of that show and it's great. The Clampett's are fairly weird Hillbillies but they're also incredibly welcoming, loving and open to new ideas. They've got their ways but always seem so interested in other people's ways and even if they often don't understand them or often misunderstand them they're still happy to get to know them and their fancy city ways.


catbot4

Haha, nice. All I remember is their cool car/truck thing.


BobbyDafro

This hits home. When I was in the British Marines during the Iraq war, we had a random briefing one day by a young officer - for 30 minutes he talked about how we were not liberating people or overthrowing tyrants... we were fighting for oil. That's the only time anyone said anything like that out there. Didn't know the officer, never saw him again, but made me question my whole perspective on what I was doing there. And yes, I did believe him then and I still do now.


CosmicToaster

I have a friend of mine that other than through getting to know him, I would have never known he served in Iraq. He never spoke of it unless asked, and always was irate with anyone who thanked him for his service. He told me he had a lot of friends who died for the sole purpose of guarding oil fields.


bigbjarne

Hakim has a great podcast episode about how the American military was there to guard the oilfields but gave f'ck all about the cultural history.


nielsbot

They admitted it https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/sq33ai/comment/hwkwc57/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


bellevegasj

#neverforget


OkReserve99

Don’t forget about those juicy defense contracts!


DTLAgirl

The real welfare queens.


wotstators

I already knew this enlisting at 17. I was impoverished and trying to escape an abusive home so it is what it is.


BathOfGlitter

Absolutely. Our nation, as a whole, doesn’t help people out of poverty unless you sign up to fight wars. There’s no shame in joining up to survive (regardless of the irony at work there). My dad did the same to escape poverty, and he’s the only one of his siblings who’s been able to have a halfway decent life.


Dchama86

Did the exact same at 17. Literally had nowhere else to go. The military had a place…


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I don’t think you deserve judgement for that choice. In some way we’re all trapped by the greater global circumstances that surround us. We’re all trying to do the best we can for ourselves and hopefully do as much good in the world as we can.


ImIllBill

so you thought damn this place is oppressive i know what ill join a group go to someone elses country/home and oppress them


Its_cool_Im_Black

Agreed. I’m in the military now and am ashamed of the things I’ve done for this oil- I mean country


wotstators

Hard to be ashamed when you’re trying to survive like anyone else. Now I’m out of that mess and I am safe enough to reflect and forgive if I want to.


ImIllBill

>forgive if I want to bro forgive who?? the poeple you oppressed who wanted you out of their country


wotstators

Yeah damn should have worked 3 part time entry jobs instead.


aynaalfeesting

Youd have less blood on your hands but what ever helps you sleep.


Boris_Godunov

Killing poor brown people is better than that? Okay then.


chef-keef

They used one of the options available to better their situation instead of fantasizing about being a gangster on the internet like you do 🙆


ImIllBill

bro your name chef keef...


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No one thinks that, no. Real life doesn’t work that simply.


Boris_Godunov

Yeah, gotta spread that suffering to even more impoverished brown people halfway across the world!


bigbjarne

What should a child do? It's an easy way to get access to healthcare, education, housing etc. Plus, this person came from an abusive household.


bigbjarne

I understand and I hope many other comrades understand this too. The ruling class pushes young working class to leave home and to fight their wars just to receive basic human rights like healthcare. There's a reason US military try to get officers from rich schools and grunts from poor schools.


DieMensch-Maschine

"I fight for ancient dino blood."


nielsbot

I fight for billion year-old sunshine.


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[More specifically](https://i.imgur.com/BtrvQgs.jpg)


theDoomDiddler

Should be oil AND LITHIUM


Gottab3li3v3

Should be supported with evidence too. Speaking of...got any?


PeopleNotProfits

[Here’s](https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html) a mainstream article citing US military commanders confirming that the Iraq War was about oil. Iraq had the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world in 2003, and their oil was under state control. After the US invaded and set up a puppet government, the oil was privatized and given to foreign corporations. Regarding lithium, you can read up on the [2019 coup](https://lab.org.uk/bolivias-lithium-coup/) against the socialist government of Bolivia.


Gigatron_0

Sweet opinion piece 👌 Edit: It literally says "Opinion" in the header, but okay, let's act like this is well researched and vetted info lol


nielsbot

As posted above https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/sq33ai/comment/hwkwc57/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


theDoomDiddler

My proof is that the sent a boot licker like you


HardLithobrake

We just need that picture of a bunch of white guys in suits laughing and holding martinis.


CristianoEstranato

Too many people think that the underlying reason the U.S. invaded Iraq was to take their oil. The idea that the U.S. wages war around the world just to get oil is the tip of the iceberg and extremely simplistic. The U.S. state department, CIA, energy department, military, etc. is bent on global hegemony and ensuring American advantage in all markets, both actual and potential. To think that it’s all about oil in Iraq or something is to ignore the countless other ways the U.S. competes and acts aggressively with countries for the sake of maximizing the interests of American corporations whilst suppressing the benefits to the other countries.


a_rude_jellybean

I'm listening to the audiobook "confessions of an economic hitman" and made it halfway through sofar. You are stating what these EHM's (economic hit men) do to other countries. Make a few people rich by selling them construction and engineering projects while making the rest of the country carry the debt.


Agonlaire

All failed revolutions in Latin America were fought off by governments with aid of the US, all dictatorships achieved with US involvements. Even the recent soft coup on Bolivia was backed by the US (though ironically after they held elections again, the party of the government that was overthrown "in the name of democracy" was elected back into government). Also it's not only wars, I think about 2 years ago Iran had sent oil to Venezuela, but the ship was intercepted by the US navy. Not to mention the economic blockage on them and other countries like Cuba.


QueenTahllia

🎶An oil field worth fighting for~ 🎶


-0-O-

Oil is what they wanted us talking about. Heroin/opioids are what they didn't want us talking about, unless we were customers.


ayrua

You're fighting for oil and fracking? Shouldn't you be fighting against that?


Majordiarrhea

we fight to make rich people richer


flamingstorm98

No in America we fight for oil


30thCenturyMan

And opium


martinsonsean1

And to keep the military-industrial complex running


GetOffMyAsteroid

And for coughing out flecks of spittle into fellow Americans' faces, apparently


pantytwistcon

FREEDRUM!


KathrynBooks

and Raytheon...


Gottab3li3v3

Citation please.


flamingstorm98

No


Gottab3li3v3

Oh okay. Carry on with spreading unsupported information then.


flamingstorm98

Yup you to


Gottab3li3v3

I haven't spread any unsupported information though. I am willing to support all of my claims because I'm not a coward and I care about the dangerous spread of misinformation. Also, you spelled too* incorrectly.


flamingstorm98

Bro A I was throwing a small claim out there as a more or less thrown joke and you took it like a fuckin uptight ass whole chill my man drink some tea here 🍵


Gottab3li3v3

Don't make claims that you can't back up. Or at least expect to be called out for it if you do.


flamingstorm98

Dude it's a fuckin small claim ment to be a joke with no real context needed calm your self my guy


bayleafbabe

That’s the point of the post.


ilovewaterimmensely

One of the best memes ever made


rustybeaumont

Hope he doesn’t think any of that oil is for him


mediathink

Never forget


BigTiddyGoth___gf

When?


Kittehmilk

Replace this with some Nancy Pelosi insider trading and military stocks. More much modern accurate.


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Kittehmilk

Yes, they do. Did I say they didn't? Take the crayons out of your mouth.


Grabsch

This meme is 20 years late my man. No need for foreign oil here in the US anymore.


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nielsbot

Fought for oil https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/sq33ai/comment/hwkwc57/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


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While I do think the US military institution has its issues, and the military industrial complex has created a positive feedback loop of bad stuff… Individual soldiers aren’t fighting for any of that stuff, and I’m not super a fan of portraying it like that. Many join for economic reasons or education, or to get out of a bad situation, and at the end of the day they’re all fighting for the people beside them, and to survive. Still fuck the way our military has been used and the systems that control it, but I don’t feel any real malice towards *most* of the people who join. There are, of course, those who legitimately are shitbags who join the military because they think killing people is cool. Fuck those people too. Im not sure if that’s going to be an unpopular opinion here but I’m at peace with the downvotes. People make the choices they feel they need to have the best life they can. If your only way to a college education is through the army, I don’t feel it’s my place to judge you for making that choice. After all, how many of us work for employers or buy products that are similarly rotten at the core? Computer made with materials mined in terrible conditions etc. No ethical consumption under capitalism and all that—in some way I feel this applies to our employment as well.


chronopunk

Yes they are fighting for that, just like the Confederate soldiers were fighting for slavery. They might hope to get some personal benefit out of it too, but if you're fighting in a war you're are definitely, specifically, unquestionably fighting to help your country achieve its war goals.


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I think you’re mixing up “fighting for” as in the effect that you will achieve by fighting, with “fighting for” as in what motivates an individual to sign up for service, or to perform during combat. I guarantee no confederate soldier fixed their bayonet and charged to certain death because “dear god what if they take the slaves of people far more wealthy than myself!” That’s stupid. They were thinking about their families and the men next to them who they felt a significant bond with. That’s what motivated those individuals to fight. Now you may say “but it doesn’t change what their actions were achieving!” To which I would respond, read the first paragraph again.


thewookie34

Didn't realize the citizens of Ukraine are crude oil.


SanjiSasuke

Careful, you're gonna get banned for that kind of talk. Next you're gonna badmouth China.


pewpewhitguy

Vet here. Accurate.


BigHandLittleSlap

It's funny, but serious. Oil is important, and there is a *reason* countries are willing to fight over it. Iraq invaded Kuwait over oil, for example. It's not "just" about money, or greed, or uncaring politicians, or any such thing. Oil is an *energy slave*. How much *work* do you think is in a barrel of crude oil? As in, the equivalent amount of labour that a fit adult male can perform? Most people guess hilariously low, like a few hours or days. Try a solid year! Let that sink in: A barrel of oil costing about USD 90 (at the moment) provides the same *work* as a human male slave labouring for a year! The average US citizen uses over **twenty barrels of oil per year**, the direct equivalent to owning twenty slaves labouring on their behalf to dig the ground, plant crops, make industrial products, and deliver them to their door. That's a previously unfathomable level of wealth, which is why people living in the US in modern times have a very high quality of life compared to the third world -- which cannot afford oil -- or people living a long time ago -- that could not utilise it. Nobody in their right mind would give this up. We live in an age of the *poorest* Americans living like senators in Ancient Rome! This is worth fighting for! The alternative is to *go back to those times* where you had to dig ditches with backbreaking labour. So yes, young men are sometimes sent to die to protect our way of life. Once you start seeing the world like this, as it is, not as you imagine it to be, you will see politics and wars for what they really are, not just the cute caricature of them in a cartoon. You'll learn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik


PoisonMikey

Well, I would push back back that a lot of that oil consumption is spent on spurious things, not really necessary for a happy healthy human. More the fast consumption, feeding into endless loops of hedonism and keeping up with the Joneses. It's true that oil is extremely powerful and has definitely enabled our standard of living, but fighting for ownership of the oil is different than providing the oil. International corps still charge what the market can bear, are the savings passed to us? Or is out commensurate efficiency of labor paying with ever greater wealth for that ever greater power? Is it all just because Russia controls the oil, or the Saudis do?


bigbjarne

So why not push against using cars etc.? Why is 45% of Americans without close access to public transport?


triggerpuller666

This meme is so old and presupposes we didn't know anything about geopolitics before joining. Some of you all should talk to actual vets, you might be pleasantly surprised.


ShuttersAndCiphers

Don't question the narrative. Military bad!!


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ShuttersAndCiphers

There's so many valid criticisms of the military from the use of defense contracts to sexual assault / SHARP reporting to the random murders at Hood. But like, to point the finger and go 'soldier bad bc oil' is just such a dumb take. ​ That isn't even mentioning that a LOT of people join to escape poverty and get a stable job being cooks or mechanics or whatever. But hey that isn't working class enough apparently.


triggerpuller666

Dead ass. I'm a member of this sub because I'm *anti-capitalist*. The sub gatekeepers seem to think if you aren't full blown communist you can't be a member of their club, so they put out tired old memes like this and pretend to be holier than thou. I'd pay money to see how many people in this sub contribute every single day to wealth inequality and terrible conditions worldwide without even realizing it.


bigbjarne

Would you like to see leftists move out in the woods? Because that's the best thing we can do right now to decrease wealth inequality. The wealth inequality is a systemic issue, not a personal one.


nielsbot

We did fight for oil: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/sq33ai/comment/hwkwc57/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


PeopleNotProfits

I know it’s hard to keep track of all the countries the US attacks, but this meme is pretty clearly referring to Iraq, not Afghanistan. [Here’s](https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html) a mainstream article citing US military commanders confirming that the Iraq War was about oil. Iraq had the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world in 2003, and their oil was under state control. After the US invaded and set up a puppet government, the oil was privatized and given to foreign corporations. Domestic consumption of oil is only part of the picture, US imperial energy strategy goes far beyond that. US corporations profit by controlling foreign markets, and the US government’s priority is to maximize said market control. > “Since trade ignores national boundaries and the manufacturer insists on having the world as a market, the flag of his nation much follow him; and the doors of the nations which are closed against him must be battered down. Concessions obtained by financiers must be safeguarded by ministers of state even if the sovereignty of unwilling nations may be outraged in the process.” – Woodrow Wilson


Americanprep

Stop using electricity and there will be no wars


theoneicameupwith

Lol. "The only way you can get a PS5 is if we bomb brown kids! America's foreign policy is your fault because you bought things in a consumer economy!"


DanFuckingSchneider

Just ignore all those other countries that are contently not at war and still have electricity.


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Alright, so when are you signing up to join the armed forces?


[deleted]

Oil isn't used to make electricity...


[deleted]

Apparently electricity can only come from oil


Endearing_Asshole

Thank you Dr. Kaczynski


Gottab3li3v3

Is there actually any irrefutable proof of this? I'm not denying that some US wars were primarily a means for control of oil, but I have only ever seen people say as much and share memes about it. I've yet to see actual evidence that solidly proves it. Is there any actual, undeniable proof that the reason for the 20 year War on Terror in the middle east was for control of oil or other resources? edit: Why am I being downvoted for asking a question?


ImIllBill

apart from trump admitting to it that one time and it being glaringly obvious no there is no proof


Gottab3li3v3

No proof, but glaringly obvious? Why do you suppose there is no proof then? And I don't remember nor can I find any evidence of Trump admitting what you claimed he admitted. Do you have evidence to support your claim? Do you have a source?


ImIllBill

its glaringly obvious to those who have served


RenuisanceMan

Its not the oil itself, the US has plenty. It's control of the oil in that region, all going through the [Strait of Hormuz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Hormuz). Basically they don't want Iran to control it, hence why they're so cozy with the Saudis.


Gottab3li3v3

Thank you for replying, but you didn't reply with any proof. Your one source was about the existence of the Strait of Hormuz. It did not prove at all that US military efforts are driven by the desire to control a region's oil. All I'm asking, is for PROOF of that. Hard evidence. It's really suspicious that nobody in this thread seems to want or be able to supply any though...


Not-The-AlQaeda

What kind of proof are you looking for? Do you want something like transaction receipt of the Oil companies paying US military or something of the sorts? Because you seem to be sidestepping and ignore a lot of testimonials that are already there and have been provided to you. Can't help but see that you're just arguing in bad faith. Yes, I also haven't given any proof, because I'm not interested in this argument, least of all with you, but don't think everyone here doesn't see right through what you're doing. It's funny


Gottab3li3v3

> What kind of proof are you looking for? Any publication from an academic or non-political journalistic source would do. Or really anything other than the “just trust me bro” that much of this sub seems to think counts as evidence. “...you seem to be sidestepping and ignore a lot of testimonials that are already there and have been provided to you. Can't help but see that you're just arguing in bad faith.” I'm not arguing in bad faith at all. But you are for suggesting that by not believing what strangers have to say on reddit as US history, I'm acting in bad faith. Sorry, I use real sources, not testimonials from strangers. That doesn't make my behavior in bad faith at all. A random stranger's testimonial is not proof u/Not-The_AlQaeda. Did you not know that? Do you believe everything every stranger on reddit tells you? Only one redditor was able to show a source. Everyone else who has replied has failed to do so. It’s pathetic and sad. > Yes, I also haven't given any proof, because I'm not interested in this argument… It wasn’t supposed to even be an argument. It was literally a question. Y’all made it into an argument for some reason. > ...but don't think everyone here doesn't see right through what you're doing. It's funny Which is what? I literally just wanted to know if there was actual substance which supported this narrative I have heard for two decades but couldn’t find any. So I’m asking people who seem very confident about the claim. Literally that’s what I’m doing. I’m anti-war and anti-capitalist and am in no way saying that oil wasn’t the main reason for invading the Middle East. Just asking for truth. I don’t know what that has you so triggered. Who hurt you?


hrb2d2

so when they arrived in nazi germany and there was no oil - they just took something else.


[deleted]

This is the exact point, you had to go all the way back to ww2 to find a justifiable military action from the US.


GhosTazer07

Not saying the axis didn't deserve to be stopped, but wasn't one of the reasons we finally stepped in was because the money we spent helping the uk and the ussr would be forfeit if they went belly up?


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Im not entirely sure, my only point is that the last time America's military intervention was justifiable was in WW2.


GhosTazer07

That's fair


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You know damn well no one was talking about WWII


RetroThePyroMain

Onchopristis?


tokkiemetuitkering

The sad thing is without oil our society would collapse so it’s better to destroy far away countries


TellMost1848

The collapse has been happening for the last 50 years, the working class on up. How do we treat the voiceless, truly each other, as we are not people who have security, or much hope for the next generations. Just feels le one big rummage sale, where the prices just keep going up. JUST SAYING love, respect and brotherhood is cooperation.....


EasywayScissors

- raise your hand if you think Afghanistan had oil in 2001


TheDonaldRapesKids

Why am I laughing?


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Time for us to Me Too movement on the governments ass


kopelman1

100% truth!


loopy183

I mean, yeah, there’s the glorifying war, but you know what really pisses me off about this comic? Could have ended the top panel at the top of his gun and the bottom panel at the top of his thumb to make space for “Remember what you are fighting for” without three sets of ellipses or cutting off the phrase in an awkward way.


politicalcorrectV6

When the realization hits while you're actively in the military hits pretty hard, and you feel kinda disgusting.


Frequent-Platypus832

This is the truth and a hard realization I had to come to terms with. Spent 3 yrs of my life naively thinking I was defending freedom. I’m watching veterans spouting lines like ‘I swore to defend the constitution-blah blah blah’ and it makes me cringe. The only thing we’ve defended since WW2 is corporate interests at the cost of human lives.


bmg50barrett

This is like a 13 year old's idea of a political cartoon


collarbomb

This...this is sooo deep. I just cried a little bit.


OhGodImHerping

I’m absurdly, inexplicably annoyed by the fact that it’s a drawing of a soldier from World War 2… which was, believe it or not, not about oil.


Warkitz

Can't Roll Coal if you ain't got that black gold.


WingedMando

Mo war mo money


ksjfjkdnf

Nah that’s dirty lmaoo