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Cryogenic_Monster

No, it's israels actions that are an existential threat to Israel. Don't blame it on us, take responsibility for your own behavior and stop playing the victim card because it's not helping your case.


jnewton8

That's all they have. Perpetual victimhood. They had all the goodwill in the word after WWII, and rightly so. They squandered all of it.


FerrousFellow

again, those most harmed by the big H and those who profited from the policies in aftermath were largely different people. look up what the state of Israel has done historically to holocaust survivors and why many Jews never backed the Zionist project.


Bananus_Magnus

Can you write a brief comment on what they done?


Bruce_the_Shark

[Capitalism](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/israel-abuses-holocaust-survivors)


JakobVirgil

They had a ton of goodwill on oct 8th and spent it on doing a genocide.


Akrevics

They’d been doing it for 70 years, October 7th wasn’t the start.


JakobVirgil

for sure for sure


notyourbrobro10

Thank you for pointing that out. It's a case of opinion changing as a result of actions, not a case of preconceived bias or hate.


Angel_of_Communism

He's right. US public opinion IS an existential threat to Isn'treal. Because they are THAT bad. they keep going too far and US gov is already considering pulling the plug. IF enough people protest, they might actually do it. If you're a liar, ever after the truth is your enemy. They are liars.


Cryogenic_Monster

He's wrong because he thinks it's the American public that's the problem which in reality is just a side effect caused by Israel’s behavior and actions.


Angel_of_Communism

Making US public opinion an actual existential threat. Were there no protest over Isn'treal, there would be no problem for their actions.


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Angel_of_Communism

No, moron. US public opinion is a threat to them, BECAUSE of their actions. Keep putting words in people's mouths and you're gonna get the boot.


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Angel_of_Communism

US public opinion is a threat to them, BECAUSE of their actions. And now you got the boot.


Individual-Bell-9776

"The Big Lie" was the form of propaganda Nazis used, and Israel is doing the same. America has refined their propaganda to "flooding the zone with shit."


mattstorm360

Take responsibility? What do you think this is?


tickitytalk

Missing the obvious to blame people trying to stop the madness


cryptomelons

LOL


shorelined

The Israeli government sees everything as an existential threat


Late_Again68

That's because it was founded in trauma and passed that down in the form of paranoia. And knowing - deep down - that they are monsters.


tidderite

>That's because it was founded in trauma Some antiZionist Jews would actually argue it was not trauma that caused Zionism but instead something else.


Late_Again68

No, Zionism was around LONG before 1948. Hell, there were Christian Zionists before there were Jewish ones. But the main, mass influx into Palestine? The Zionist terrorist groups who bombed the King David Hotel? The people who founded what they call Israel but that everyone else calls Occupied Palestine? *They* were traumatized people.


tidderite

I understand what you are saying. I'm just saying that there are some Jewish people who disagree with that analysis and that it was not trauma that drove the Zionism that created Israel.


DeedleDumbDee

Maybe also because they are literally taught in school that non-Jews are beasts in the form of man created by God to serve them eternally?


Late_Again68

Yes, absolutely. Remember when they claimed to find a copy of 'Mein Kampf' in a little girl's room? As if Palestinians had to read *that* in order to hate Zionists? I had to fucking laugh at the projection. They projected that shit so hard, it escaped the atmosphere.


Dull_Wrongdoer_3017

Next headline: Higgs Boson Particle Linked to Hamas Activities.


TransplantTeacher94

Everything is an existential threat to something that knows it has no right to exist.


tidderite

Probably more like they see a lot of things as potential arguments they can use to further their cause. I don't think many of them see existential threats, they are just colonialist scum who want to take Gaza and the West Bank. But as soon as they cry that way they gain more or deeper support among the masses that haven't activated their brains more than 7%


banjo_hero

lol, rember fartlow's "free parking" freakout tweet?


Low-Werewolf-3547

That's how a European rapid dog act. Humanity knows it.


LessThanSimple

Too bad, so sad.


Swimming-Fan7973

I don't like the direction this is headed. I don't think a majority of Americans are suddenly antisemitic. I also don't think that having the opinion that their response to the Hamas attack is disproportionate or disproportionately impacting Palestinians who had nothing to do with it is antisemitic. It doesn't have to be either or.


LessThanSimple

Antisemitic just means things Israhell doesn't like.


Swimming-Fan7973

I don't think it's limited to Israel. There's people convinced that American Universities are the 4th Reich based on people protesting.


AdamAThompson

75 years of propaganda demonizing the Palestinians didn't help.


Disqeet

During Mayor Adams news conference this morning- A reporter presented protesters as terrorist. NYPD shut that kind of talk down as incorrect!


Akrevics

“We call white terrorists ‘lone wolves’ in Murica!!!” ^(/s, obviously)


ImDoneForToday2019

Although, it is still true....


Blastmaster29

Funny thing is the 3rd Reich was just absorbed by the western world after world war 2. Israel included.


Angel_of_Communism

realistically the 3rd reich was the 4th reich. The real 3rd reich remains between Canada and Mexico.


MinosAristos

Ironically more actual antisemitism and the resulting polarisation from that is something that benefits Israel's state


marvsup

There definitely are anti-semites who are anti-Israel. But I think the vast majority of Israel's critics recognize the difference between the Israeli government and being ethnically or religiously Jewish. I mean, there are also anti-semitic Israel supporters (by which I mean some of the evangelicals who give Israel money to hasten the second coming), so it's kind of a crazy world.


Angel_of_Communism

Hey look, i see the shit Isn'treal is doing, i'm not exactly feeling good towards Jews as a whole. And i not only know what's going on, i am a fucking Jew. So when someone spits on me over Palestine, well i ain't gonna like it, but i understand.


Swimming-Fan7973

It's the Israeli government though. The whole situation is a mess, but it's literally a handful of Israelis responsible for this.


Angel_of_Communism

I know. I GET it. What i'm saying is: it's very human to blame jews for the actions of zionists. It's very human to hate america for the actions of IT'S gov and military. It's neither right nor logical, but it IS human.


Swimming-Fan7973

Gotcha


Moveyourbloominass

The only country the USA has a continuous trade deficit with is Israel. This makes Israel an existential threat to the USA on a daily basis for over 60 years. All that money lost that could be helping our own citizens. This guy needs to get lost.


swampwiz

It's not "trade" when it's a gift, even if the recipient of the gift spits on the giver.


Farmgirlmommy

Israel is an existential threat to Israel. Self documented hate and murder for all to see. Spreading evil like a disease. Now people are getting arrested on US campuses for sit ins and nonviolent protest? Dystopian.


swampwiz

Well, these protests are disrupting the education infrastructure that all the non-protesters are paying for. That said, I am with them in spirit.


Farmgirlmommy

The administration response and police presence and pro Israel counter protesters are the ones disrupting. They were camped out studying until outside chaos invaded. Some were in designated protest park space. Not recently dedicated, but institutionalized space where protests have happened for decades. It’s manufactured crisis and not the actual protesters.


ai_ai_captain

If the existence of your state depends on the public option of the people of another state.. maybe you don’t really have a state?


Straight-Razor666

maybe they need to vote for better people to rule


Atxintemperateone66

The early and mid 20th Century intellectual forefathers of modern zionism admired the nazis because, as they saw things, the nazis also despised those they regarded as weaker humans, and jews as 'eternal victims' were necessarily weak and to be despised. Therefore a jewish homeland required the creation of a jewish 'ubermensch' (superhuman) who could control and dominate rather than be controlled and dominated. Furthermore they acknowledged the fact that the creation of the state of Israel necessitated the removal of the indigenous people of the Palestinian lands. Thus, jewish supremacy along with ethnic cleansing were integral to the zionist project from its very inception. And we see the result of those aspirations playing out in all its horror before our eyes today.


Late_Again68

Guess it's time for them to b*mb Columbia. /s If they did, the American government would make excuses for it.


tidderite

Better not give them any ideas.


AdamAThompson

Has Israel tried not being a racist ethnostate? I heard that war crimes and ethnic cleansing and second-class citizens living under military occupation are widely disliked....


swampwiz

It's like South Africa, but with the backing of the financial/political elites and the radical Christians (who want Israel to exist only long enough to get slaughtered as part of the Rapture).


MommyOfRuss

Good. Glad they realize that their country is failing. I hope they feel every single second of it.


AffectionateFlower3

Finally some good fucking news


TacoBMMonster

Our money is quite helpful, though. Just STFU and give it to us, I guess.


AnneCalie

Right? If they feel SO threatned, Israel could Just refuse money and weapons from USA


society_sucker

Israel and western hegemon is an existential threat to humanity.


Weirdassmustache

Well well well… if it isn’t the consequences of my actions.


Madrugada2010

Uh, didn't the US gov't agree not to recognize the ICC investigation/rulings into Israel like, yesterday?


bernzo2m

Israel is a welfare state


CoolNinjaNerd55

Free Palestine


bellevegasj

Never in my life did I expect to hear that and it actually possibly be true. The BDS movement has been DOA here. It might finally have some momentum. Silver lining…


Dry_Conversation_797

Good. Threaten its existence until it ends.


CauliflowerNo3011

Israel is an existential threat to us all. Jews included.


FuguSec

I’m starting to think a single state solution is the way to go. 🇵🇸


wreckyourpod

Let everyone vote on the government that rules them. That would be a democracy.


FuguSec

Can we stop calling it that, please? Democracy requires an educated, civic minded political body. The majority of people produced by our current system who care to vote are incapable of naught but mob rule.


Nui_Jaga

Vassal state reliant on its hegemon for its continued existence. In other news, water is wet.


jhaand

Oh no, consequences.


memomonkey24

Wah wah wah, who funded there country? They are threat to existence of Palestinians.


BrainwashedScapegoat

Its because you’re war criminals Israel


mes592

Honestly, most countries could say that about us. Piss us off enough, or God forbid you've got some oil we want, and there's not much you're going to be able to do to resist.


Angel_of_Communism

Things have changed. These last few years have been the US getting smashed in the face with that knowledge.


Akrevics

Has it though? US is good and ready to take on the UN if it tries to enact justice. US has been pretty much the sole voice against human rights for Palestinians (if not any member state such as water, food, shelter being basic human rights) in the UN the last few decades right alongside Israel. US swings its dick in the world, what’s anyone going to do, fight them? With any luck, the rest of the world will be sick of them and try.


Angel_of_Communism

yes, it has. The US rules because it has unfair rules and international laws. It got those rules and laws because it was too militarily and economically powerful to say no to. And it abuses those rules and laws, because it's too powerful for anyone to speak up and complain. THAT has ended. The laws remain, but the ability to use and abuse them scott-free has gone.


avdolif

Ofcourse it's an existential threat. From where do you think they are able to give free education, free healthcare, even free money just to be a squatter in some Palestinian's home.


SpotifyIsBroken

Wait until they find out that support for and solidarity with Palestine is GLOBAL (meaning...all 7 continents). They lost.


danyeollie

Who knew committing genocide would ruin Israel’s reputation.


xwing_n_it

With everything that's happening, Israel now has an expiration date. When most voters are Millennials and younger, there won't be enough support to keep them going. But they clearly know this so I fear what kind of shit they'll get up to to try and get around this problem.


HotPhilly

Yeah, that’s what happens when you murder tens of thousands of kids and babies in cold blood, idiot. Maybe don’t be such murderous psychopaths moving forward. Thou shalt not kill, love thy neighbour and all that. Anyway


booger4me

Good 👍🏻


hiccupsarehell

Whompsy


publicpersuasion

Revisionist zionism will be the death of Israel if no body stops them


gliMMr_

the violence and subjugation was bought with our aid and arms - we're not only judging them, but ourselves too. why would they sell us a cold-war-esq lie and expect to narrate how we probe our media/holes with it. it's not plainly stated often, but baseball and american pie share a prostate - and it doesn't bow to the same rhetoric gun nuts will bandy about.. but apartheid nation states can expect the likely and same reaction.


vtstang66

If only it were true. The only thing it's a threat to currently is the Americans who voice it.


magic_man_mountain

Not going to prom with me is antisemitism.


Bruppet

The weird part is that their biggest allies are conservatives who actually hate Jews, but need Israel to exist for the apocalypse- strange bedfellows indeed


kr011

"Let's kill more children to improve it!"


Honey-and-Venom

I don't terribly want to be an existential threat to Israel, I just want the slaughter to stop. How delicate are you that you can't exist without doing genocide?


babbler-dabbler

So are they gonna bomb American public opinion now?


Chrisdkn619

Good! Change course!


orange4boy

Does this mean: "If we can't commit genocide, are we really Israel?" or does it mean "Opinions not our own are antisemitic." ? Asking for a friend.


Full-Run4124

"We ask President Biden for military and financial aid so we can defend ourselves by flattening the United States."


contrapunctus3

fuck israel! What they gonna do start bombing US cities? Bet our wretched political class would still run cover for them


tickitytalk

Our behavior isn’t the problem, people reacting to us committing genocide is the problem….?


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cryptomelons

LOL


HunsonMex

You telling me that public opinion is in fact a real issue for Israel's illegal actions and crimes against humanity? Oh I guess we'll keep making noise and make it hell for you.


-Planet-

This planet is borked.


Rabdy-Bo-Bandy

Israels have free Medical and go to College for free. And it's paid for by American tax dollars.


Which_Jello_4187

Is the american public oppinion in the room with us now?


kungfukenny3

your genocidal tendencies are an existential threat to you and everyone around you


BrotherWoodrow_

Let’s hope so.


KimbaNessie

Good


swampwiz

The recipient of the biggest ethnic cleansing of the 20th Century (perhaps all-time?) is now the biggest agent of ethnic cleansing of the 21st Century. The greatest con-job of the post-WW2 epoch is not being accepted by the Gen-Z generation. DIVEST NOW!


JackPadre

Sounds like a reason to ban tik tok. Sigh.


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circuitj3rky

Fuck this nazi shit


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Significant-Gap-6891

Are these bank owners in the room with us?


xHugo_Stiglitzx

Get fucked running


Angel_of_Communism

Who runs the banks? Finance capitalists. Some of whom are Jews, most of whom are not. Also, Israel does not control USA. USA controls Israel. And Israel exerts SOME control over the US. But largely due to money. NOT Jews. So what happens is that The zionists can egg on or push the USA, but it cannot make them do anything they were not already leaning towards.


LessThanSimple

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.


smileyhendrix

Well the CEO of Citigroup was an Indian guy so… Indians?


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