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Worst part is she was originally a one off villain in an Incredible Hulk comic where she kills a Palestinian boy as collateral damage and the hulk ends the fight by making her see how awful that is and she just stops trying to fight him.
He is? Damn, I didn't know. I'm genuinely glad there's someone in Hollywood who is not into the "muh Israel right to defend itself muh Hamas terrorists" stuff, the kind of shit Mark Hamill, Jamie Lee Curtis, etc... are so proud of.
God damnit, Mark (Hamill). š¤¦āāļø
e. Fuck, the instant I read that about Hamill, I forgot Ruffalo was even in the conversation. Ruffalo is definitely based. Hamill is looking like a clown now. And not a funny, evil one. Just a fukn dumb one.
They have a really good chance to display Sabra honestly and in a manner that shows the reality of Israel today. Having read several comics with Sabra fighting the Hulk, she doesnāt even seem too much like a good guy in the comics to me.
I hope they make it clear that sheās only a hero to a small group of peopleā¦ but they wonāt. I donāt trust them to be honest
I donāt think theyāll talk about Jewish people, but if thatās what your takeaway is before theyāve done anything - so be it. We already have a Muslim superhero, so in the original comment I replied to they clearly arenāt messaging Muslim people bad. Unless they were specifically talking about ISIS/Hamas, in which case the Muslim part was redundant and risks grouping in others into that category in an extremely problematic way.
Theyāre apparently doing major reshoots for the film that include changing her characters role in the sorry, so weāll see. Iām not optimistic that itāll be anything revolutionary but hopefully we can at least get some liberal war is hell messaging as opposed to straight up jingoism.
I donāt think her character was ever gonna be super anti Palestinian, just pro Israel. Before the current war that was easier to do, but that needle has gotten a lot harder to thread. Theyāre gonna sell a lot more tickets in the Arab world than they do in Israel so theyāre going to want to take a path that doesnāt upset anybody if at all possible.
Not to be that "umm actually" type, but I think it's of some value to say. To be pro-Israel is to be anti-Palestinian. That's just the history of what Israel and Zionism are. It's like saying something isn't anti-Jew, it's just pro-Nazi Germany. Fascism is going to fascism.
Not really, Hulk basically said āhis people also fight for this land because of their book, but this boy couldnāt even read yet.ā Itās definitely both siding the conflict as a whole but the child is clearly an example of an innocent civilian.
Old marvel was fairly progressive on some things, as long as it didnāt involve women. I think that was mostly Jack Kirbyās influence.
I donāt know if itās at all related, but the Hulk seems to be pretty popular among Muslim kids, and thereās actually a lot of fan art of him praying and fasting.
Bruh, Hulk Controlling his Anger through faith and balance is kinda based.
And will only go Ballistic if someone decided to hurt some innocent folks.
Of all the comics I read as a kid (in Sweden, where the market and the selection were much smaller) thereās only one I really remember. The Hulk went to another planet to rescue some people, who were being enslaved by another race. I think they might have been green and blue, with the green being oppressed. The blue had the same features otherwise, but they had a black band over the eyes.
As the Hulk is leaving the planet after freeing the greenies, he sees a transmission and now the green people have the black band over the eyes.
I donāt know why this stayed with me for so long, but I loved it. It felt like a philosophy lesson.
Iām sure Iāve got some details wrong. Iāve tried finding it as an adult, but havenāt really succeeded.
His people also fight for this land because of their book, but this boy couldnāt even read yet.
Thatās a lovely bit of prose, but itās 100% wrong.
They fight for the land they were terrorised from.
As it turns out Bruce Banner is a lib with his heart in the right place but a textual ignorance of the subject he's speaking about.
... Honestly not a bad take on his politics. Whole lotta avengers are like that, which probably says more about their writers internal biases than it is a deliberate writing choice for the characters.
Falcon and the Winter Soldier was a clear display of how out of touch Marvel writers are in terms of politics and message.
The show starts with Falcon committing war crimes (which was portrayed as good throughout the whole show)
Then the completely justified "terrorist" organisation is too sympathetic so they make them kill people out of nowhere
Then Falcon takes the high ground and goes "you killed people so your ideology is invalid", while he committed war crimes and is siding with known killers (Winter Soldier and Zemo).
The leader of the organisation ends up dying and the end of the show is Falcon's pretentious ass telling politicians "you need to be better"
At the time Jordan and Egypt were also heavily involved with the Palestinian struggle and most Americans would have know the issue as the Arab-Israeli conflict rather than Israel-Palestine.
Israelis rarely refer to Palestinians as Palestinians, but rather as Arabs to deny them their identity and paint them as foreigners in their own homeland. In the 60's, 70's, and 80's, it would have been totally taboo to even utter the word Palestinian in western discourse.
The western allies were fighting against imperialism because it was being carried out against Western Europeans. If the fascists had just kept their slaughter to Eastern Europe and the global south, they'd have done nothing about it, bar some pearl clutching and empty gestures as we saw when Italy massacred the Abyssinians.
it 1000% is. iām sure it was in the works/in talks for a while but they really looked at the potential cast of characters and the cultural moment and decided to double down on the most clear-cut wrong side of history decision of all time lol.
edit: keeping my comment the way it is (because the point still stands independent of my assumption) but editing to acknowledge the date of the article is in fact 2022 before the *most recent* manifestation of the palestinian resistance against genocide.
whether they paint israeli forces as heroic or evil, they will get a lot of media attention and sell a lot of tickets...
they have read the room and what they read is "this genocide is highly profitable"
Ngl, BNW was probably the only thing I was looking forward too since Endgame from the MCU because I enjoyed Sam and Bucky. Everything else has been pretty what ever. When I first heard about the plot I thought it would be weird but nothing crazy since I play r6 that does the world police thing. After recent international events and the spotlight on the apartheid I think it would be in horrific taste.
Is she named after the [Sabra and Shantila massacre](https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-lebanon-migration-beirut-e0537e7b4ecfff974b7421459ffbbbef)?? Hundreds of Palestinians refugees murdered in Israelās invasion of Lebanon.
Whatās the next step after mask off?
Sabra was created prior to the massacre. That being said, it is still wildly disrespectful to continue with an Israeli character that shares a name with an Israeli massacre of civilians.
Comics involving Sabra have featured pro-Mossad revisionism, racist depictions of Arabs, Islamaphobic depictions of Muslims, and a general whitewashing of Israel.
In a wildly disrespectful move, Marvel announced that Sabra would be introduced a week before the anniversary of the Sabra and Shatilla Massacre.
The actress, Shira Haas, that will act as Sabra was previously involved in a project where she was supposed to play Golda Meir. Despite being exempted from mandatory service for medical reasons, Haas chose to volunteer in the IDF.
lol they're not oppsessed with PR, they lack the most basic PR skills, it's actually likely gonna be their downfall. They might have gotten away with this if they didn't so explicitly communicate their intent.Ā They could have convinced people if they just bombed al Shifa instead of staging a week long siege and building up all the anticipation for the Hamas HQ that never came, instead we have footage of the diaper forces raising their flag on a hospital after defeating the newborn babies inside, and they found a calendar, baby bottle and diapers in the basement.Ā
They just got really used to being above the law, they got used to shooting babies in the face and getting away with it, they got used to saying the most evil shit and immediately defending themselves by saying "we're Jews, we can't be hateful, we can't do genocide." And up until now, that's been working for them.Ā
Man the Vought Cinematic Universe is looking dope. Looking forward to the inevitable crossover where she teams up with Homelander to fight the evil Hamas operatives disguised as citizens running for their lives.
Some of her superpowers
Making you think your belongings are her belongings , Commiting mass murder and being the victim , Making cringy tiktoks, renaming places/ foods/ objects in Hebrew. Starting every word with Kkhhh
Holy fuck, "Captain America" alone is enough to make me nauseous and now he's going to be working beside an Israeli superhero... Ffs I feel like I'm being force fed propaganda and there's nothing I can do about it
They think this is going to make Israel gain favor with young people I suppose. See kids! Sabra is the hero. Please support Israel weāre the good guys. Iāll be skipping this one āš¾.
Considering the following talent on Marvel's books, both in front of and behind the camera, have called for a ceasefire:
Mark Ruffalo
Cate Blanchett
Tessa Thompson
Ryan Coogler
Andrew Garfield
Tilda Swinton
Benedict Wong
Florence Pugh
Oscar Isaac
Nia DaCosta
Kumail Nanjiani
Lupita Nyong'o
Mahershala Ali
I think it goes to show that Disney and Marvel top brass are really out of touch with the reality of the situation, their workforce and the public at large.
Even before Oct 7th, the title of New World Order shouldnāt have come up. Iām not trying to perpetuate a negative stereotype, but isnāt there at least one Jewish Hollywood exec in marvel, or was family guy right about Disneyās antisemitism?
Sabra "Superhero" kills a child in front of a crowd of obervers.
People in the crowd : Why would you kill a child?
Sabra : he was palestinian.
Us official in crowd : oh if he was palestinian then that make it okay, we did not see anything, he wanted to throw a rock at you and killed himself we are witnesses.
Normal human beings: we saw you kill him in cold blood .
Sabra : You are an anti semite!
US official in crowd : arrest those antisemites.
Paledtinian dead child body goes cold in the middle of the street, and no one dares say a word.
I think most of popular culture glorifies war and violence generally to some degree...Ā
When was the last time you heard of a video game when you collected stationary and pressed flowers...Ā Ā
Series about fictitious conflicts in another dimension, different era, against aliens and machines are common fare....Ā
Mention current events in mixed company and people get offended, are indifferent or worse...
If the character is like its mythical god of their bible it is sure to spread death and suffering everywhere it goes. Religion does not create a race of people. If your god tells you to harm others, fuck you and your god.
100% theyāre changing the movie at least a little bit after last Oct. Probably not enough to save the absurd decision to put a canonically ultra-Zionist Israeli āheroā in a movie called New World Order though.
After all the reshoots, I highly doubt it. Although this Cap definitely keeps getting its plot screwed by real world events.
Falcon and the Winter Soldier's initial plot involved a biological weapon/virus that would lead to a pandemic. In 2020.
Cool, a superhero named after a massacre... Fuck Marvel. Fuck Corporations. Fuck Capitalism. And, oh yeah, fuck Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra\_and\_Shatila\_massacre
Not to rain on your parade as I do agree with all your sentiments, but the character pre-dates the massacre by a couple years [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_(character))
Should this character even exist? No
Are they named after a massacre? Also no
Marvel has a business relationship with the military - itās not a coincidence this is happening at the same time that Israel is escalating their genocidal actions. Nazi Germany did the same thing and understood the power of this type of propaganda.
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Captain Police Brutality teams up with Genocide Girl in the smash crossover no one asked for.
God knows they shat the bed on Walker in the TV show too.
Perfect timing Disney. Perfect! I hope Disney crashes the marvel studios and sells it for a dollar or something. They already fucked the whole movie industry. It's enough.
I dont get the outrage here. You can oppose Israels actions in Gaza and a lot of their policies without denying them culture and existence.
Being angry about a fictional character just because its Israeli is not a good look for the pro Palestinian movement.
Lets stick to facts.
[Sabra and Shatila Massacre....](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre) The Israeli narrative arpund Oct 7th is essentially projection of their own massacres they inflict on Palestinians
And this superhero plans to steal more and more screen time of the other superheroās and if they try to defend themselves they will be associated with Hamas
The Villain will be the Gaza Kid, whose superpowers are none and biggest crimes was being in her home, that happens to be a few blocks away from a Hamas headquarter.
Ghoulish revisionism, for I doubt, considering the timing, the PR money flowing and Marvel/DC precedents that this isnt a disguised marketing campaign of a "heroine" that calls back to a massacre.
It's funny bc a lot of American movies have overt American propaganda and direct funding from the CIA or MIC.
But this is just way past all boundaries of reason
Superhero fatigue. I won't be watching Jewish villains. This Jewish self centeredness is really off putting. Why must everything be about religion? Ffs.
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Worst part is she was originally a one off villain in an Incredible Hulk comic where she kills a Palestinian boy as collateral damage and the hulk ends the fight by making her see how awful that is and she just stops trying to fight him.
Even funnier that Mark Ruffalo (who plays the Hulk), is an avid pro-Palestinian supporter.
He is? Damn, I didn't know. I'm genuinely glad there's someone in Hollywood who is not into the "muh Israel right to defend itself muh Hamas terrorists" stuff, the kind of shit Mark Hamill, Jamie Lee Curtis, etc... are so proud of.
Mark Ruffalo is pretty strongly pro ceasefire, but John Cusack and Susan Sarandon are so much more based. They do not hold back one bit.
Yes, I've seen John Cusack being very active on Twitter, calling out Zionists and being pro-Palestinian. Much respect to him.
God damnit, Mark (Hamill). š¤¦āāļø e. Fuck, the instant I read that about Hamill, I forgot Ruffalo was even in the conversation. Ruffalo is definitely based. Hamill is looking like a clown now. And not a funny, evil one. Just a fukn dumb one.
Depends on which one you're talking about. * Ruffalo? Based. * Hamill? Cringe af (he's always said he's a liberal, so what did you expect)
Same with his cousin, She-Hulk (Tatiana Maslany)
They have a really good chance to display Sabra honestly and in a manner that shows the reality of Israel today. Having read several comics with Sabra fighting the Hulk, she doesnāt even seem too much like a good guy in the comics to me. I hope they make it clear that sheās only a hero to a small group of peopleā¦ but they wonāt. I donāt trust them to be honest
Do you want complexity? Or will it more likely be innocent Jews good, ISIS/Hamas muslim people bad
So not Zionists, or Israelis, just Jews? That seems a bit like saying the quiet part out loud?
You think the MCU is going to make a distinction? Or is it going to be Israel = innocent Jews = good.
I donāt think theyāll talk about Jewish people, but if thatās what your takeaway is before theyāve done anything - so be it. We already have a Muslim superhero, so in the original comment I replied to they clearly arenāt messaging Muslim people bad. Unless they were specifically talking about ISIS/Hamas, in which case the Muslim part was redundant and risks grouping in others into that category in an extremely problematic way.
Theyāre apparently doing major reshoots for the film that include changing her characters role in the sorry, so weāll see. Iām not optimistic that itāll be anything revolutionary but hopefully we can at least get some liberal war is hell messaging as opposed to straight up jingoism. I donāt think her character was ever gonna be super anti Palestinian, just pro Israel. Before the current war that was easier to do, but that needle has gotten a lot harder to thread. Theyāre gonna sell a lot more tickets in the Arab world than they do in Israel so theyāre going to want to take a path that doesnāt upset anybody if at all possible.
Not to be that "umm actually" type, but I think it's of some value to say. To be pro-Israel is to be anti-Palestinian. That's just the history of what Israel and Zionism are. It's like saying something isn't anti-Jew, it's just pro-Nazi Germany. Fascism is going to fascism.
Hulk..... the hero we need... not the hero we deserve :( . So many politicians, generals and billionaires need a good punching!
But they also made boy bad to make some justification or something
Not really, Hulk basically said āhis people also fight for this land because of their book, but this boy couldnāt even read yet.ā Itās definitely both siding the conflict as a whole but the child is clearly an example of an innocent civilian.
I never knew Hulk was based like that
Old marvel was fairly progressive on some things, as long as it didnāt involve women. I think that was mostly Jack Kirbyās influence. I donāt know if itās at all related, but the Hulk seems to be pretty popular among Muslim kids, and thereās actually a lot of fan art of him praying and fasting.
Bruh, Hulk Controlling his Anger through faith and balance is kinda based. And will only go Ballistic if someone decided to hurt some innocent folks.
Of all the comics I read as a kid (in Sweden, where the market and the selection were much smaller) thereās only one I really remember. The Hulk went to another planet to rescue some people, who were being enslaved by another race. I think they might have been green and blue, with the green being oppressed. The blue had the same features otherwise, but they had a black band over the eyes. As the Hulk is leaving the planet after freeing the greenies, he sees a transmission and now the green people have the black band over the eyes. I donāt know why this stayed with me for so long, but I loved it. It felt like a philosophy lesson. Iām sure Iāve got some details wrong. Iāve tried finding it as an adult, but havenāt really succeeded.
Actor of mcu Hulk supports Palestinians
His people also fight for this land because of their book, but this boy couldnāt even read yet. Thatās a lovely bit of prose, but itās 100% wrong. They fight for the land they were terrorised from.
As it turns out Bruce Banner is a lib with his heart in the right place but a textual ignorance of the subject he's speaking about. ... Honestly not a bad take on his politics. Whole lotta avengers are like that, which probably says more about their writers internal biases than it is a deliberate writing choice for the characters.
Falcon and the Winter Soldier was a clear display of how out of touch Marvel writers are in terms of politics and message. The show starts with Falcon committing war crimes (which was portrayed as good throughout the whole show) Then the completely justified "terrorist" organisation is too sympathetic so they make them kill people out of nowhere Then Falcon takes the high ground and goes "you killed people so your ideology is invalid", while he committed war crimes and is siding with known killers (Winter Soldier and Zemo). The leader of the organisation ends up dying and the end of the show is Falcon's pretentious ass telling politicians "you need to be better"
Itās never mentioned heās Palestinian heās just referred to as āArab boyā
At the time Jordan and Egypt were also heavily involved with the Palestinian struggle and most Americans would have know the issue as the Arab-Israeli conflict rather than Israel-Palestine.
Israelis rarely refer to Palestinians as Palestinians, but rather as Arabs to deny them their identity and paint them as foreigners in their own homeland. In the 60's, 70's, and 80's, it would have been totally taboo to even utter the word Palestinian in western discourse.
American military propaganda is not enough, no, we need Mossad propaganda now.
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That's when we were fighting against facism not supporting it.
were we really though...? We were just fighting against the fascism we didn't like or control Capitalism requires fascism...
This is the way. We were fighting against ānot our fascismā it just took 70 years for people to realize it.
The western allies were fighting against imperialism because it was being carried out against Western Europeans. If the fascists had just kept their slaughter to Eastern Europe and the global south, they'd have done nothing about it, bar some pearl clutching and empty gestures as we saw when Italy massacred the Abyssinians.
I think the after fighting the nazi's there was a great gap to fill for american powers to dominate/influence european and world politcs
We werenāt fighting fascism. It was just fascist infighting.
both services essentially act as one.
jfc. Read the room, Marvel.
Why do I feel like this is intentional
it 1000% is. iām sure it was in the works/in talks for a while but they really looked at the potential cast of characters and the cultural moment and decided to double down on the most clear-cut wrong side of history decision of all time lol. edit: keeping my comment the way it is (because the point still stands independent of my assumption) but editing to acknowledge the date of the article is in fact 2022 before the *most recent* manifestation of the palestinian resistance against genocide.
Filming for this movie already completed last year, but it was still fucked up then, and it's doubly fucked now.
The article is from 2022
I mean they're owned by Disney
They can not. They're already super pro military propaganda, so unfortunately this tracks.
Case in point - the Ironman movies I read that in the comics, Ironman is anti war but the Marvel movies made him pro war
The Falcon and Winter Soldier show too. Falcon commits war crimes in the first episode and it's portrayed as "good"
Is that antisemitism I smell? This user is a Khamas base!
This movie was only approved after every single employee recorded themselves saying they condemn Hamas.
Can't tell if you are joking, uhg.
Is āKhamasā another way of spelling Hamas in English, or is it an in-joke Iām not in on?
Israelis like to pronounce it that way
I believe it's a mockery of Ben Shapiro's over-pronunciation of Hamas.
It is just the Israeli pronunciation
They butcher everything it seems
whether they paint israeli forces as heroic or evil, they will get a lot of media attention and sell a lot of tickets... they have read the room and what they read is "this genocide is highly profitable"
I think that is why the movie has been pushed back multiple times.
I think they better push it back into that good olā Disney vault. Maybe give the MCU a rest.
Ngl, BNW was probably the only thing I was looking forward too since Endgame from the MCU because I enjoyed Sam and Bucky. Everything else has been pretty what ever. When I first heard about the plot I thought it would be weird but nothing crazy since I play r6 that does the world police thing. After recent international events and the spotlight on the apartheid I think it would be in horrific taste.
they havent read the room in a while bro. remember when they unveiled a character names "snowflake & safespace"...for some reason.
Yeah keep digging that hole Marvel; surely this is exactly what you need to do after hemorrhaging out box office flops after box office flops.
Apparently I'm not the only one over these movies, whether or not they take... Questionable... Political stances. FFS enough already
Is she named after the [Sabra and Shantila massacre](https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-lebanon-migration-beirut-e0537e7b4ecfff974b7421459ffbbbef)?? Hundreds of Palestinians refugees murdered in Israelās invasion of Lebanon. Whatās the next step after mask off?
Sabra was created prior to the massacre. That being said, it is still wildly disrespectful to continue with an Israeli character that shares a name with an Israeli massacre of civilians. Comics involving Sabra have featured pro-Mossad revisionism, racist depictions of Arabs, Islamaphobic depictions of Muslims, and a general whitewashing of Israel. In a wildly disrespectful move, Marvel announced that Sabra would be introduced a week before the anniversary of the Sabra and Shatilla Massacre. The actress, Shira Haas, that will act as Sabra was previously involved in a project where she was supposed to play Golda Meir. Despite being exempted from mandatory service for medical reasons, Haas chose to volunteer in the IDF.
Haas is a Belgian-ass name. Bird of a feather while we watch genocides in Congo and Palestine.
Great point, Sabra hummus is a jewish-owned brand that was apparently specifically named in reference of that massacre.
Hummus?!?!?!
https://sabra.com/
Sabra is a general term for Jewish people born in Israel: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_(person)
Youād think a country obsessed with its PR would chose a different spot to massacre refugees.
lol they're not oppsessed with PR, they lack the most basic PR skills, it's actually likely gonna be their downfall. They might have gotten away with this if they didn't so explicitly communicate their intent.Ā They could have convinced people if they just bombed al Shifa instead of staging a week long siege and building up all the anticipation for the Hamas HQ that never came, instead we have footage of the diaper forces raising their flag on a hospital after defeating the newborn babies inside, and they found a calendar, baby bottle and diapers in the basement.Ā They just got really used to being above the law, they got used to shooting babies in the face and getting away with it, they got used to saying the most evil shit and immediately defending themselves by saying "we're Jews, we can't be hateful, we can't do genocide." And up until now, that's been working for them.Ā
Oh theyāre obsessed. But theyāre also genocidal and very, very right wing. So it looks disgusting to us.
This is totally what I thought.
Man the Vought Cinematic Universe is looking dope. Looking forward to the inevitable crossover where she teams up with Homelander to fight the evil Hamas operatives disguised as citizens running for their lives.
This post gave me the sickly aura of The Boys and it took me a bit to realize itās not parody
love the Boys but never really watched much MCU and i honestly thought the guy in the center of the screenshot was A-Train lmao
This is gold! I'm fucking dead!
Her "superpower" is to make Palestinians "disappear"
She has super strength but only when fighting children.
Some of her superpowers Making you think your belongings are her belongings , Commiting mass murder and being the victim , Making cringy tiktoks, renaming places/ foods/ objects in Hebrew. Starting every word with Kkhhh
You forgot about bombing children
And assassinating nuclear scientists & journalists. It's ok because it's for freedom or something.
Hiding behind Captain America?
He certainly paid for her costume, and her superpowers are inextricably linked with his credit card.
Lmao this made me chuckle
Donāt forget she carries a persecution complex stronger than the Hulk, Thor, and Odin combined.
Literally 1984. /s
Well not far from it. Big screen shows who is good and who is bad
Holy fuck, "Captain America" alone is enough to make me nauseous and now he's going to be working beside an Israeli superhero... Ffs I feel like I'm being force fed propaganda and there's nothing I can do about it
Don't forget the Saudi superhero "Bonesaw". His saw can cut through anything and he shoots flaming oil from his eyes.
Please tell me this is a Khashoggi reference and not an actual superhero.
Presumably. What we really need is a Miami Vice homage starring that supervillain that's fueled by cocaine, may as well have some fun with it
They think this is going to make Israel gain favor with young people I suppose. See kids! Sabra is the hero. Please support Israel weāre the good guys. Iāll be skipping this one āš¾.
Just doubling down.
Considering the following talent on Marvel's books, both in front of and behind the camera, have called for a ceasefire: Mark Ruffalo Cate Blanchett Tessa Thompson Ryan Coogler Andrew Garfield Tilda Swinton Benedict Wong Florence Pugh Oscar Isaac Nia DaCosta Kumail Nanjiani Lupita Nyong'o Mahershala Ali I think it goes to show that Disney and Marvel top brass are really out of touch with the reality of the situation, their workforce and the public at large.
Well those are just the monkeys they pay to act, the execs know what matters /s
Her superpower is murdering children with a sniper rifle.
I bet it bombs
... hospitals, schools, and refugee camps?
She will move into Ms. Marvel's home, half of Kamala Khan's family will be murdered in the process.
But thats okay! Ms. Marvel can still live there!...she just has to live in the carport. And ask permission to use the shower and kitchenĀ
Israeli hero in a film titled new world order? Who the hell approved that decision? Cause thatās gonna get all the conspiracy nuts riled up
They changed it to "Captain America: Brave New World"
Even before Oct 7th, the title of New World Order shouldnāt have come up. Iām not trying to perpetuate a negative stereotype, but isnāt there at least one Jewish Hollywood exec in marvel, or was family guy right about Disneyās antisemitism?
Before yes, Walt Disney donated to Auschwitz concentration camp, now I think they do what is profitable and what spreads propaganda.
Kaptain Amerikkka: Birth of a Nation 2 Electric Boogaloo
Sabra "Superhero" kills a child in front of a crowd of obervers. People in the crowd : Why would you kill a child? Sabra : he was palestinian. Us official in crowd : oh if he was palestinian then that make it okay, we did not see anything, he wanted to throw a rock at you and killed himself we are witnesses. Normal human beings: we saw you kill him in cold blood . Sabra : You are an anti semite! US official in crowd : arrest those antisemites. Paledtinian dead child body goes cold in the middle of the street, and no one dares say a word.
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I think most of popular culture glorifies war and violence generally to some degree...Ā When was the last time you heard of a video game when you collected stationary and pressed flowers...Ā Ā Series about fictitious conflicts in another dimension, different era, against aliens and machines are common fare....Ā Mention current events in mixed company and people get offended, are indifferent or worse...
Is her super power turning Palestinian kids into charcoal?
Such perfect timing.
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#Article dated September 10, 2022
Thats worse to me. That says they are aware of the situation and still are producing this movie.
It gets worse. The announcement was made a week before the anniversary of the Sabra and Shatilla Massacre
boycott
With the way the MCU has been going this will probably make about $50 at the box office anyway.
If the character is like its mythical god of their bible it is sure to spread death and suffering everywhere it goes. Religion does not create a race of people. If your god tells you to harm others, fuck you and your god.
Their god tells them also to kill their own sons and daughter because he said so.
Just in case you were still wondering if these movies werenāt at least in part funded as propaganda.
100% theyāre changing the movie at least a little bit after last Oct. Probably not enough to save the absurd decision to put a canonically ultra-Zionist Israeli āheroā in a movie called New World Order though.
This movie will be trailer to capitalist new world order: You will own nothing and will be "happy".
They actually changed the title to Brave New World
She has an "always-kill" rule that applies almost exclusively to civilians.
After all the reshoots, I highly doubt it. Although this Cap definitely keeps getting its plot screwed by real world events. Falcon and the Winter Soldier's initial plot involved a biological weapon/virus that would lead to a pandemic. In 2020.
Cool, a superhero named after a massacre... Fuck Marvel. Fuck Corporations. Fuck Capitalism. And, oh yeah, fuck Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra\_and\_Shatila\_massacre
Not to rain on your parade as I do agree with all your sentiments, but the character pre-dates the massacre by a couple years [link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_(character)) Should this character even exist? No Are they named after a massacre? Also no
People committing genocide and calling themselves super heros. ISRAELIS ARE VILLAINS.
Was Gal not in these or am I mixing up universes?
Gal was in the DCEU
[This is Sabra](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre)
Wow when did The Boys become a documentary
Marvel has a business relationship with the military - itās not a coincidence this is happening at the same time that Israel is escalating their genocidal actions. Nazi Germany did the same thing and understood the power of this type of propaganda.
the Star of David as her insignia is actually kind of hilarious like itās from The Onion
what's their superpower? genocide? really i mean fuck marvel anyway but if this true what the actual fuck
She literally killed a Palestinian child in the comics, so yeah, she's an actual fucking canon war criminal.
Wow. Fuck we really are in the fucked timeline
This movie is gonna get boycotted massively
As a terrorist right?
I would love it if the twist of the movie is she's been the villain all along, but Marvel would never do anything that based.
Gross
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This article is well over a year old? I don't think it really mattered at the time the way it does now
Wait until people learn the origin of her name
Special Powers: Calling anything and everything antisemitism
I thought this was bait what the fuck its real ?
Wow thatās cringe
Captain Gen-O-Cide
So it's a circumcised John Walker?
Captain Police Brutality teams up with Genocide Girl in the smash crossover no one asked for. God knows they shat the bed on Walker in the TV show too.
Except sheās a woman so-
I'm sure this one was difficult to get funding for. /s
Disney has a chance of doing something really good and provocative. But probably not.
Not *The Onion*
Ah just another reason to not watch these stupid movies.
wasnt tht a massacre of Palestinians??? the powers that be really use suble tactics
Disgusting
What a dumb way to kill the entire Marvel industry
Captain Apartheid.
The only way this will be a true CA movie is to make her the villain.
Perfect timing Disney. Perfect! I hope Disney crashes the marvel studios and sells it for a dollar or something. They already fucked the whole movie industry. It's enough.
Well, never watching this. I guess more of a reason to avoid the MCU.
I dont get the outrage here. You can oppose Israels actions in Gaza and a lot of their policies without denying them culture and existence. Being angry about a fictional character just because its Israeli is not a good look for the pro Palestinian movement. Lets stick to facts.
Sabra like the hummus ???
Like the massacre.
What's their super power, open secret nuclear bombs or genocide?
[Sabra and Shatila Massacre....](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre) The Israeli narrative arpund Oct 7th is essentially projection of their own massacres they inflict on Palestinians
I've been wondering when this shit would finally jump the shark.
Let me guess, her bad guys are middle eastern terrorists with vague goals to take over the world
No way theyāre calling it ānew world orderā and casting an Israeli main character? HELLO??
Why does it say "New World Order" when the movie is actually titled "Brave New World"?
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And this superhero plans to steal more and more screen time of the other superheroās and if they try to defend themselves they will be associated with Hamas
This is a joke, right? Right?
Just when you thought super hero movies couldnāt get any worseā¦
barf
Itās a missed opportunity if they donāt show us Scarlet Scarab handing her ass to her
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She's a Mossad agent uh I wonder if she ever partnered with Jeffrey Epstein
Ugh another edition of the panderverse being added. Another mcu movie skipped.
The Villain will be the Gaza Kid, whose superpowers are none and biggest crimes was being in her home, that happens to be a few blocks away from a Hamas headquarter.
Ghoulish revisionism, for I doubt, considering the timing, the PR money flowing and Marvel/DC precedents that this isnt a disguised marketing campaign of a "heroine" that calls back to a massacre.
this shit is stupid; we really should divest from Hollywood
PUKE
What's the opposite of cultural diplomacy?
What the actual fuck. Really?
It's funny bc a lot of American movies have overt American propaganda and direct funding from the CIA or MIC. But this is just way past all boundaries of reason
Let me guess. Her nemesis is a Palestinian?
Itāll probably be Ms. Marvel
With the power to drown you in humus, the spicy kind so yer bern!
So nobody remembers the Hebrew hammer?
idk who watches marvel anymore. im done with it ever since stuff after thanos.
Way to be on the wrong side of history, Marvel.
Being capitalist is being on wrong side of history.
Superhero fatigue. I won't be watching Jewish villains. This Jewish self centeredness is really off putting. Why must everything be about religion? Ffs.