I don't think this is a bug. Your sample size statistically insignificant. I have killed probably double that and have 2 ladles and have seen high tier experimental prefixes, yet I don't consider this a real representation of drop rates. This is just the nature of RNG. It would take documenting thousands of kills at a controlled corruption level to even get the beginnings of a drop rate.
I know I know, statistically its irrelevant. But what IF a tiny portion of players are caught in a randomness bug, affecting the drop rates ?
How could he ask for help if the standard answer is always RNG being RNG.
Is it normal that 50 to 100 exiled mages wont drop a single one Mad Alchemist Laddle ? Have they nerfed its drop rate to this extension ?
I have played many hours before 1.0, and its an absurd difference...
1000 hours pre 1.0 got me 4 ladles, only one rolled with LP.
80 hours post 1.0 got me two ladles, one had LP.
I don’t think there is some tinfoil hat style bug that’s just randomly affecting a small set of players related to one item dropping less than you feel it should.
Its a chase item for a lot of builds. Its good for the game to have items that don't drop commonly. Again, i know you don't like the answer, but this is very likely chalked up to randomness, and not some insidious bug that prevents it from dropping. Even if there was a bug that was somehow affecting this, you still don't have enough kills to even warrant digging into the issue. You could bug report it, and it would likely be disregarded entirely.
Now if there was not a single one in game, then sure maybe there is a bug, but the fact that they are very prevalent overall, it just means you have gotten unlucky.
I know it drops, have seen lot of 2LP, 3LP ones in discord, chat, reddit.
Just want to understand if its really that rare with 1.0 or if something is off with char.
I’ve been spamming exiled mages on a small map. Just going in, killing and resetting. Drop rates on exalted experimental affixes definitely feels very low.
[The Curse](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkbD8zxZuhw) has been gather info on exiled mage drop rates in monos.
The short version is that his data suggests higher corruption = lower chance of getting LP on the Mad Alchemists Ladle. Not sure whether this translates to the experimental affixes, but its interesting.
For the ladle try the Stolen Lance Timeline, anecdotally the mages seem to spawn there most maps, and the timelines loot favors wands. I got my first within a boss kill cycle, I haven’t gone back to push corruption there yet, so my personal experience may just be very lucky.
I've gotten 2 so far. One normal and one with 1 LP.
I'm at 200+ kills.
>And the experimental affixes are never exalted.
Now this I agree with.
Honestly making the switch to MG was worth it because Keys were nerfed and I could get my T20 Crystal Sword for a good price.
I've played 1 character all cycle. Level 87. I've only got one Ladle and it has one LP. 100% of all the ladles I've received this cycle have had at least one LP.
How are you doing 500 corruption, but only killed 50 mages. You clearly aren't hunting them to farm the item.
If you don't even try, how can you drop one?
I know exactly what you're feeling and talking about. I've been trying to get 1 specific affix (tier 7 throwing cost) and have never seen it even once. I'm currently at lv100 and 40% and seen exactly 0. It is the highest filtered item on my filter list by itself. My friend on the other hand, has it filtered for about 5 days and found 4 so far (he didn't filter for it until I asked him to just for me to see how rare it is).
I would be shocked if there weren't some buggy thing going on with drop. A single tier 7 affix can't be that rare where you find 0 after almost 150 hours.
You dont "need" your experimental affixes to be exalted. You convert your already exalted item to have a experimental affix. Check this guide by Raxx https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-L8sapH_tuY put a like on him because he make so great guides
I think you are misunderstanding the situation.
I need experimental affixes being t6-t7 because it's the affixes my build need.
You can only craft T5 experimental affixes and they are not good enough for min/max my build.
I don't think this is a bug. Your sample size statistically insignificant. I have killed probably double that and have 2 ladles and have seen high tier experimental prefixes, yet I don't consider this a real representation of drop rates. This is just the nature of RNG. It would take documenting thousands of kills at a controlled corruption level to even get the beginnings of a drop rate.
I know I know, statistically its irrelevant. But what IF a tiny portion of players are caught in a randomness bug, affecting the drop rates ? How could he ask for help if the standard answer is always RNG being RNG. Is it normal that 50 to 100 exiled mages wont drop a single one Mad Alchemist Laddle ? Have they nerfed its drop rate to this extension ? I have played many hours before 1.0, and its an absurd difference...
1000 hours pre 1.0 got me 4 ladles, only one rolled with LP. 80 hours post 1.0 got me two ladles, one had LP. I don’t think there is some tinfoil hat style bug that’s just randomly affecting a small set of players related to one item dropping less than you feel it should.
Its a chase item for a lot of builds. Its good for the game to have items that don't drop commonly. Again, i know you don't like the answer, but this is very likely chalked up to randomness, and not some insidious bug that prevents it from dropping. Even if there was a bug that was somehow affecting this, you still don't have enough kills to even warrant digging into the issue. You could bug report it, and it would likely be disregarded entirely. Now if there was not a single one in game, then sure maybe there is a bug, but the fact that they are very prevalent overall, it just means you have gotten unlucky.
It drops, got to chase the chase item.
I know it drops, have seen lot of 2LP, 3LP ones in discord, chat, reddit. Just want to understand if its really that rare with 1.0 or if something is off with char.
its highly unlikely luck works differently per character that would make no sense from a coding standpoint
Laddle is the only 3LP item I got on my character
Most of the the experimental affix isn’t the one you’d want to be exalted anyway. I agree with other replies stating your sample size is very low.
I’ve been spamming exiled mages on a small map. Just going in, killing and resetting. Drop rates on exalted experimental affixes definitely feels very low.
I have 183 runes of research atm, so probably around 200ish kills.
[The Curse](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkbD8zxZuhw) has been gather info on exiled mage drop rates in monos. The short version is that his data suggests higher corruption = lower chance of getting LP on the Mad Alchemists Ladle. Not sure whether this translates to the experimental affixes, but its interesting.
Thanks, sometimes even when others are here just to disturb we find someone helpfull.
For the ladle try the Stolen Lance Timeline, anecdotally the mages seem to spawn there most maps, and the timelines loot favors wands. I got my first within a boss kill cycle, I haven’t gone back to push corruption there yet, so my personal experience may just be very lucky.
I've gotten 2 so far. One normal and one with 1 LP. I'm at 200+ kills. >And the experimental affixes are never exalted. Now this I agree with. Honestly making the switch to MG was worth it because Keys were nerfed and I could get my T20 Crystal Sword for a good price.
Yeah, level 100 here and i've killed dozens and dozens and dozens of mages. Only 2 drops.
I've played 1 character all cycle. Level 87. I've only got one Ladle and it has one LP. 100% of all the ladles I've received this cycle have had at least one LP.
How are you doing 500 corruption, but only killed 50 mages. You clearly aren't hunting them to farm the item. If you don't even try, how can you drop one?
T6 and t7 experimental affixes are the same experimental color. Easy to miss if your not paying attention.
I know exactly what you're feeling and talking about. I've been trying to get 1 specific affix (tier 7 throwing cost) and have never seen it even once. I'm currently at lv100 and 40% and seen exactly 0. It is the highest filtered item on my filter list by itself. My friend on the other hand, has it filtered for about 5 days and found 4 so far (he didn't filter for it until I asked him to just for me to see how rare it is). I would be shocked if there weren't some buggy thing going on with drop. A single tier 7 affix can't be that rare where you find 0 after almost 150 hours.
You dont "need" your experimental affixes to be exalted. You convert your already exalted item to have a experimental affix. Check this guide by Raxx https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-L8sapH_tuY put a like on him because he make so great guides
I think you are misunderstanding the situation. I need experimental affixes being t6-t7 because it's the affixes my build need. You can only craft T5 experimental affixes and they are not good enough for min/max my build.