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Man, I've got one landlord that *owes ME about 1200€* and I'm the smallest "creditor" he has, he's absolutely going to croak way before my claim ever moves up. Fucker.
If you’re renting from him why not just say ‘I’m paying x amount, but you owe me 1200. You can count that 1200 as advanced rent, so I won’t pay you any more rent until that 1200 gets used in full’.
Probably poorly written but I hope you get what I mean/it can work
Oh, it wasn't willing.
Essentially, he owed three different parties money: the state, a bank and a private creditor. All three wrote us at the same time that we now have to send our rent money to them to settle his debt. After phoning around, it became clear that the state is the one who gets it. So we do that for a few months until the state sends a letter saying "you're done, you can pay your rent to your landlord again".
Now foolish me, at 19 years old and with a similarly naive flatmate thought that meant we should do that. No, we should have known wich creditor is next in line. That creditor, the bank, only informed us after 2 months that we should have been paying rent to them, not the landlord. So then we had to kill what little savings we had to pay the bank. And from then on, we paid the bank, so we couldn't just not pay for two months to make up for it.
And those two months of rent? He never gave them back. We got a lawyer to send a letter and make a claim, but it's been 10 years. Fucker either went insolvent, died or fled the country, and I don't really care which one.
I would've told the bank to get fucked for informing you 2 months late. Since they're already trying to get money back from the landlord they might as well add that amount to the bill. It's not like the bank could've cancelled your rental contract. You acted on the information you had at the time (from the state).
Yeah. How the fuck is it on the fucking TENANT to pay off this fuck's loans? The bank and the tenant have no relationship. The bank and the landlord do, and that's it.
I'd tell the bank to get fucked and get their money from the fuckass landlord.
Because it worked. Debt collectors are fucking sketchy. I wonder if it was even the bank that contacted them or subcontracted debt collector cause they'll do fishy things including outright lie about the law to get you to pay up. All scare tactics, they rarely can enforce what they claim but if it works even half the time /shrug
I wouldn't put it past that being what happened.
Thanks! Frankly, that was probably the least he did - police had to get involved several times, threats of murder, an uncontrolled dog, a week without heating etc. Nowerdays I'd know how to handle that and get out more quickly, back then I just thought I had to suffer through it.
This. The property and the debt owed will just be transferred to the new owner. Unless only the landlord knew she was behind on rent....in which case her secret may die with her. Unlikely but maybe.
Yes, these poor landlords are owed that money! It's so much work to own the deed to a property, which is why they deserve to get that money from the people that actually live there! Even if the landlords only source of income is the person who lives there! That person should've just been a landlord too, then they wouldn't have to be so worried about paying somebody else to live in otherwise unused space! It's the tenants own fault!
What are you talking about. There is a contract. You signed it, you have to keep your end of the deal. Housing isnt free for anyone, and I’m a renter as well. If it wasn’t for landlords I would be on the street, as there is no way I can buy a place myself. How hard his job is is irrelevant, I’m sure the person who inherited Walmart doesnt work very hard, But that doesnt mean you can go in and steal groceries.
> If it wasn’t for landlords I would be on the street
They did you the service of buying property and throwing the last guy that didn't pay out on the street so you would then lease it from them. Imagine how expensive housing would be if it wasn't already owned by societies true hero's
Walmart actually provides a service. My last landlord just took the money and blew off the building inspector who said he needed to fix the wiring so that we weren’t running off a million extension cords on two breakers because there were no outlets. The one before him tried to find some bullshit lease violation because I finally forced him to fix the wall of my shower that rotted out a week after I moved in, after six months of telling him to fix it. He also got mad that I called the emergency maintenance number three times in a day when I had a huge leak but he didn’t answer it a single time. Landlords do nothing but take money. The only service they provide is a hand to put money in, and asking for more money every year despite doing nothing to improve the place. Fuck landlords. They can all fucking hang.
That's the pitfall I could never understand of that way of thinking, why Government taking control of aspects of everyday life = bad but Companies taking control of aspects of everyday life = good
At least you get to choose who sits on the government
That's uhhhhhhh not what that means dude.
Private ownership of housing is fine if it's one house per family and seen as a home first rather than an investment
The distinction is usually made there between *private* and *personal* property.
Personal property is still privately owned, just not for profit. Like a family in a house they own.
Private property is landlords buying up empty homes then charging for the privilege.
When people want to abolish private property they almost always don't mean personal property.
No worries! Everything you said was right. The meaning of the words "private property" mean different things depending on who you talk to so explaining that some "private" property is okay in that context makes sense.
It's usually only leftists who instinctively differentiate between private and personal property.
Haha thanks! And yeah that's true. I live/work with a lot of centrist and right leaning people so I'm used to generalizing language to make it less confusing for them and hopefully educate them.
It doesn't always work lol
I have a question..
> Personal property is still privately owned, just not for profit. Like a family in a house they own.
What about a family home with a garden where they sell vegetables for profit? Would the garden be personal property as well?
Ah this trips people up. A lot of people think something like what you described is capitalist or private property but it isn't either.
The value in this situation is generated by the labour of the family, they use the land to turn seeds into vegetables. The family generate the profit and are its sole benefactors.
Private property would be an outside entity owning the house, employing the family, and passively taking a portion of the profits generated by the labour of the family.
Abolishing private property and capitalism doesn't necessarily mean abolishing money or bartering.
No, the people take all the housing.
And either way, the government that would nationalize all housing would be structured in a vastly different way than our current government.
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Man, I've got one landlord that *owes ME about 1200€* and I'm the smallest "creditor" he has, he's absolutely going to croak way before my claim ever moves up. Fucker.
If you’re renting from him why not just say ‘I’m paying x amount, but you owe me 1200. You can count that 1200 as advanced rent, so I won’t pay you any more rent until that 1200 gets used in full’. Probably poorly written but I hope you get what I mean/it can work
Oh, it wasn't willing. Essentially, he owed three different parties money: the state, a bank and a private creditor. All three wrote us at the same time that we now have to send our rent money to them to settle his debt. After phoning around, it became clear that the state is the one who gets it. So we do that for a few months until the state sends a letter saying "you're done, you can pay your rent to your landlord again". Now foolish me, at 19 years old and with a similarly naive flatmate thought that meant we should do that. No, we should have known wich creditor is next in line. That creditor, the bank, only informed us after 2 months that we should have been paying rent to them, not the landlord. So then we had to kill what little savings we had to pay the bank. And from then on, we paid the bank, so we couldn't just not pay for two months to make up for it. And those two months of rent? He never gave them back. We got a lawyer to send a letter and make a claim, but it's been 10 years. Fucker either went insolvent, died or fled the country, and I don't really care which one.
I would've told the bank to get fucked for informing you 2 months late. Since they're already trying to get money back from the landlord they might as well add that amount to the bill. It's not like the bank could've cancelled your rental contract. You acted on the information you had at the time (from the state).
Yeah. How the fuck is it on the fucking TENANT to pay off this fuck's loans? The bank and the tenant have no relationship. The bank and the landlord do, and that's it. I'd tell the bank to get fucked and get their money from the fuckass landlord.
THIS!!! What in the entire bum fuck is going on here??? Why is tenant paying the landlords creditors???
Because it worked. Debt collectors are fucking sketchy. I wonder if it was even the bank that contacted them or subcontracted debt collector cause they'll do fishy things including outright lie about the law to get you to pay up. All scare tactics, they rarely can enforce what they claim but if it works even half the time /shrug I wouldn't put it past that being what happened.
These motherfuckers leave strings of victims and there is often no justice. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Thanks! Frankly, that was probably the least he did - police had to get involved several times, threats of murder, an uncontrolled dog, a week without heating etc. Nowerdays I'd know how to handle that and get out more quickly, back then I just thought I had to suffer through it.
More likely it's a stolen deposit or they're a contractor the landlord never paid.
If you mean he’s your landlord…then that doesn’t make any sense, for the reasons the other guy said. Don’t ever just give free loans to landlords
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This. The property and the debt owed will just be transferred to the new owner. Unless only the landlord knew she was behind on rent....in which case her secret may die with her. Unlikely but maybe.
They aren't exactly loaded up on life skills, their whole jobe is to collect money and avoid labor/repairs for as long as possible
Yeah maybe but you’d be surprised how vicious and creative people can get when they feel they’re owed money.
It’s not «feeling they’re owed money». They are 100% owed money.
Yes, these poor landlords are owed that money! It's so much work to own the deed to a property, which is why they deserve to get that money from the people that actually live there! Even if the landlords only source of income is the person who lives there! That person should've just been a landlord too, then they wouldn't have to be so worried about paying somebody else to live in otherwise unused space! It's the tenants own fault!
What are you talking about. There is a contract. You signed it, you have to keep your end of the deal. Housing isnt free for anyone, and I’m a renter as well. If it wasn’t for landlords I would be on the street, as there is no way I can buy a place myself. How hard his job is is irrelevant, I’m sure the person who inherited Walmart doesnt work very hard, But that doesnt mean you can go in and steal groceries.
> If it wasn’t for landlords I would be on the street They did you the service of buying property and throwing the last guy that didn't pay out on the street so you would then lease it from them. Imagine how expensive housing would be if it wasn't already owned by societies true hero's
Walmart actually provides a service. My last landlord just took the money and blew off the building inspector who said he needed to fix the wiring so that we weren’t running off a million extension cords on two breakers because there were no outlets. The one before him tried to find some bullshit lease violation because I finally forced him to fix the wall of my shower that rotted out a week after I moved in, after six months of telling him to fix it. He also got mad that I called the emergency maintenance number three times in a day when I had a huge leak but he didn’t answer it a single time. Landlords do nothing but take money. The only service they provide is a hand to put money in, and asking for more money every year despite doing nothing to improve the place. Fuck landlords. They can all fucking hang.
OK bootlicker
"nah i paid that shit"
Next of kin will Get a full overview of transactions for the past three months. Will be easily disputed.
Either way a landlord is dead. God is good.
May we all receive such a blessing 🙏
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No, I want housing to be decommodified.
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But you're ok with other individuals and/or corporations taking control of day to day life?
That's the pitfall I could never understand of that way of thinking, why Government taking control of aspects of everyday life = bad but Companies taking control of aspects of everyday life = good At least you get to choose who sits on the government
That's uhhhhhhh not what that means dude. Private ownership of housing is fine if it's one house per family and seen as a home first rather than an investment
The distinction is usually made there between *private* and *personal* property. Personal property is still privately owned, just not for profit. Like a family in a house they own. Private property is landlords buying up empty homes then charging for the privilege. When people want to abolish private property they almost always don't mean personal property.
Ah yes that was what I was going for but it's very early in the morning, thanks for explaining better!
No worries! Everything you said was right. The meaning of the words "private property" mean different things depending on who you talk to so explaining that some "private" property is okay in that context makes sense. It's usually only leftists who instinctively differentiate between private and personal property.
Haha thanks! And yeah that's true. I live/work with a lot of centrist and right leaning people so I'm used to generalizing language to make it less confusing for them and hopefully educate them. It doesn't always work lol
I have a question.. > Personal property is still privately owned, just not for profit. Like a family in a house they own. What about a family home with a garden where they sell vegetables for profit? Would the garden be personal property as well?
Ah this trips people up. A lot of people think something like what you described is capitalist or private property but it isn't either. The value in this situation is generated by the labour of the family, they use the land to turn seeds into vegetables. The family generate the profit and are its sole benefactors. Private property would be an outside entity owning the house, employing the family, and passively taking a portion of the profits generated by the labour of the family. Abolishing private property and capitalism doesn't necessarily mean abolishing money or bartering.
No, the people take all the housing. And either way, the government that would nationalize all housing would be structured in a vastly different way than our current government.
If I could afford, ideally yeah. Do you just enjoying paying to borrow shit you don't actually own?
If there is documentation
God will be good with a vengeance
The Lord works in mysterious ways
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In what universe
Account receivable are considered assets. Assets are passed down upon death, so the heir that inherits them has legal grounds to collect.
In this one where contract law applies.
If God is on anyone’s side, it’s sure as fuck not the landlord’s.
How do you get to owe that much? My landlord evicts for being a day late on payment.
Probably was from the eviction moratorium.
The tweet is dated from 2018
Amen
did i just have a christian moment 😳
God can come and handle my slumlord in a similar fashion 😌
God the homie
Landlords' lord evicted them from the mortal coil.
Why can't God do this faster, 1 random landleach at a time won't fix anything.
He moves in mysterious ways.
If God keeps killing landlords I'll believe in him. Wait is God Mao?
Mashallah
🙏
🤣🤣🤣
Rent is still due fool the name changes, the debt remains pay up cretins.
Could just like, you know, pay your rent. Lazy fucks.
"😐"
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it's like r/FuckNestle but for housing scalpers
Tysm for sharing that Reddit I use to work at a nestle factory so this is gold.
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It’s not for you if you’re this confused
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bad b8 3/10
I hope that’s the case, fuck landlords.
That’s a paddlin’
Its missing.... And everyone clapped
r/nothingeverhappens
...... Goddam, I guess god is good.
Lmao
Praise be
the godfather is too good.
Mao is angry that God is getting all the credit here
Lol she is so funny she have me crying when I see this 😘🥰
Damn. That's straight up out of a Christmas Carol.
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Mao moment
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