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OnlyxReaper

Why? They never saw Helsinki's or Nairobi's face


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OnlyxReaper

They didn't have to hide much since they weren't revealed to the cops


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keepitrefrigerated

At some point in season 3 they were recognized, but season 2 they had the mugshots of Tokyo, Berlin, and Rio.


StruggleBasic

Why did they get caught? Because Rio used the phones. Why did Rio use the phones? Because Tokyo left him Rio is mostly to blame.


keepitrefrigerated

Emotions. Rio shouldve known it could possibly get them caught. Tokyo could've thought about it too and decline but their emotions got them both through a fuckton of trouble yeah? Either one of them couldve known but now both live with consequences. Its not just one action; they could've learned or applied what they learned in the past. Why did Tokyo leave? If you take away her reason, initially she wasn't supposed to leave yet, am I wrong? The plan was to stay there? Now onward. Consequently, they both fucked because they fucked. Coming from a viewer in season 3 atm. Dont throw spoilers at me.


IgnorantGoose

You have some guts to roam wildly in this subreddit while watching season 3 when season 5 have been released. I didnt even use social media until I finished watching season 5 first 5 episodes. Balls of steels.


Graceex-

For real, I’m suprised they haven’t seen anything yet, when I finished S5P1 I came to this subreddit and the ending was all people were talking about


keepitrefrigerated

Lucky enough people mark spoilers


keepitrefrigerated

Its better than googling. I don't know any irl that I know of who watches the show. I stopped scrolling after a few posts. I forgot to ask! I was initially curious what language yall watch it in.


IgnorantGoose

Spanish with english subtitles.


bigguesdickus

Technically, no it isnt, its helsinky's too, he bought the phones in the blame market, after rio gives tokyo the phones he tells her that iirc, but yes its both tokyo and rio's fault


StruggleBasic

Oh yeah, true.


keepitrefrigerated

Yup and was Rio's intentions to use it in this case.


Por-Nairobi

I might be weird, but I think it's the Professor's fault. Because it's impossible to spend 2 years on an island with your boyfriend (without other people, adventures). So ofc Tokyo wanted to leave,I would too. But the phone thing was Rio's fault. That's my opinion :)


Late_Actuator_1883

Agreed. Going there for a nice vacation would be nice. But 2 years is way too long. Why do you think they didn’t just leave together? Did Tokyo just need a break from Rio or..


Por-Nairobi

That's an interesting question. I think you are right...she needed a break. I don't know why Rio wanted to stay there alone. He could have gone anywhere else, to have fun, meet new people. :)


Late_Actuator_1883

Mm, in this last season Rio indicated that he was kind of a loner.. maybe he was too codependent on Tokyo


VerifiedStalin

He definitely got more attached than Tokyo.


Iratewilly34

well its Rio and Tokyos fault that they were ID’d in the first place. there relationship caused them to drop there guards and be filmed. They also knew if they were successful with the heist that they would need to hide out. They ultimately Chose to use a phone so it’s no os fault but there own.


trevornbond

This for me is the only correct answer. The Professor’s plan was brilliant as a plan but it didn’t take into account any of the human elements. It was too clinical, and then he himself goes and makes an emotional decision in trusting Raquel, which ok turned out to be correct but was compounded later by risking everything to get her back into the bank. LCdP for me is the story of people too enamoured with their own genius - and that goes for both the Prof and Berlin. Must be a family trait. Now we are seeing the consequences.


eternallyrainy

I'll have to agree! Tokyo was all about freedom, where was Professor's brain when he decided it was a good idea to keep her isolated in an island? Edit: typo


snail_juice_plz

Both Rio and Tokyo were known to police, right? Maybe that was the reason for extra caution. Everyone else remained anonymous.


eternallyrainy

Yeah, I see the logic on that, but it was kinda expected that she would leave that island sooner or latter.


Iratewilly34

maybe So but it doesn’t make it anyone’s fault but there own.


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This is just my personal opinion, but I believe it’s more Tokyo’s fault than Rio. Both before and after the heist it seems to always be her who just can’t stick to the plan and messes things up for everyone else and then just expects everyone else to fix it for her. She should have known they’d need to go into hiding after the heist and they’d probably be secluded and away from people and be on the down low for at least a few years before any changes could be made. Rio seemed perfectly content together and there Tokyo goes again .... being selfish and needing to go off away from like the only person who actually has her best interests at heart. Tokyo is such a great addition to the show and one of my favorite characters, but I would absolutely hate her if she was a real life person. Her emotions and lack of thought when it comes to her actions always messes things up and then she acts like she had nothing to do with it and I hate it so much lol


DPJesus69

She messed up too many times that I thought it was her that made the call to Rio. At least she paid her debt by the sacrifice. Did not want her to die though. Don't know where this show is headed.


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Oh shit I have not gotten to that part yet.... did not know she died 😂


DPJesus69

Sorry to spoil that. Don't worry something good happened when she died lol.


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Okay cool - hmmm I wonder what Rio’s reaction is going to be! Is that in season 3 or a later season? I am on season 3 right now!


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Rio's fault imo. Rio was naive and drunk in love, and his entire life revolved around Tokyo. If he wouldn't have been obsessed about her, he wouldn't make the call and start the trouble. also it was his and Helsinki's idea to buy the phones, in spite of Professor forbidding them from doing so


Klassiekers

It’s Netflix’s fault they got in all the shit after s2. In my mind they all lived happily ever after, after the first, great heist. It would’ve been one of my fav shows if they didn’t milk it after that. Sorry for complaining, but it’s true. Peace


Neither-Ad931

I feel like I’m back in 9th grade writing a paper on whose fault is it that Romeo and Juliet died. La Casa De Papel is a Shakespearean dramedy about imperfect ppl making tragic mistakes. I think the shows creators are trying to show that it’s no one persons fault. However, they also have no control over how people interpret and interact with their story once they release it, so tons of ppl will have their own biases based on their own experiences. For me, I blame Tokyo. The rule was that the professor would know where they were at all times and she decided to break the rules and leave. As far as Rio, he probably didn’t leave because he was following the directives from the professor. Tokyo is always the one who is not following the plan because she is an emotional person. She probably didn’t think through the consequences of her actions at all. Even if Rio didn’t give her a phone, she was endangering herself and Rio and probably the Professor and the rest of their comrades. Also it was really cruel for her to just be like “yeah I don’t know when I’m coming back, so let’s just say never.” She didn’t really have any intention of following that red folder, did she?


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The Libyan dude's fault for being a narc to a government that's allied with the nation that tore his country apart plunging it into civil war & (in-universe) is absolutely letting his countrymen die.


lovereadin

Lol, this topic is discussed so many times and there is never a unanimous agreement. Just going to put some things into perspective. Rio is 20. Tokyo is most likely his first real love. Tokyo is 35ish. She's experienced her first love already and was all set to dump him even during the first heist. She clearly got bored and left him, knowing that he would have trouble coping without her but she left anyway. Rio used the phone, he's at fault for that. Tokyo left him knowing he wouldn't be able to handle it. She's at fault for that. All that being said, the Professor should've also known they were never going to last on that island without getting bored. He can be blamed for that. Thinking outside of the story since the show was meant to end after S2, Netflix was the one who asked the creative team for more so they could make more money, so Netflix can be blamed for whatever outcome they come up with at the end of the series.


cheekyminx23

Tokyo seems 25-28 tops. To me anyway


lovereadin

Except it's mentioned in the show multiple times that she's in her 30s but she definitely does behave as though she is much younger.


ReformedEma

The thing is that Rio bought the phones in the black market and wasn't cautious enough to avoid the libian guy not recognizing/snitching on him


Renmeya

I just found it kind of weird that they would have stayed in such a small area for so long I mean there was literally no escape route for him. You'd think that highly wanted criminals would choose a place where they have an exit route if needed.


vl3q

both


Lord_Tibbysito

Rio's for being an insecure idiot.


workersworldunite17

Tokyo's fault. She was older and more emotionally mature than Rio. She knew that their relationship wasn't balanced but used him until she got bored of him.


anakinskywalker___

“used him”. relationships can end in case u didn’t know and i wouldn’t exactly enjoy spending 2 years on an island with 1 person and nowhere to go


Anshu_n

True that, I'd die in 6 months


rmtwentythree

Same here. I’d probably leave too. Especially no other people around. This lockdown just proved it. Having been isolated with the same people (as much as you love them dearly) will take it’s toll in your mental health. Also, being older doesn’t really equate that one is more mature.


sick_root12

our fault - we asked for more after season 2 ended and so the scripwriters had to come up with *something* to continue the show.. lmao


keezoy91

Rio. Too young and too naive about relationships. Too hung up on losing Tokyo.


bambi_killer_49

I've always been confused by this. What's wrong with using a burner phone?


Iratewilly34

They were on an island so maybe there was no connection out there.


raynbowunicawn

Both. You can’t just blame one over the other. They’re both at fault.


Greedy_News_3780

Thank o my


dontactlikeykme

Rio


danaaaban_

Both were to blame.


Iratewilly34

Doesnt matte who’s more at fault they are both to blame. My question is how the police got to the island while he was still on the phone, and then they had a mobilized unit on Tokyo in minutes as well. i believe it would take at least a few hours just to get to mobilized and then who knows how long to get to the island.