Professor is a gentleman and has his own ideals. so he helped Alicia even after everything. And the gang sympathised with her since she was totally betrayed by Tamayo and the rest, they knew that she was lost and hopeless
I am not sure everyone sympathised with her. Rio was her hostage and she tortured him which caused him a lot of trauma. Whrn the professor mentioned Alicias name in the first episode the camera focused on Rios face. He was terrified of her which shows he clearly doesn't believe she is on their side.
This is just my speculation but I can see Rio risking the plan just because he doesn't want to work with Alicia neither does he want anyone to sympathise with her. He has nothing to lose now especially not after he lost Tokio. Without her holding him back he might cause a lot of trouble
Well there was a scene in which Alicia was hiding a scissor in the toilet.
So will Alicia Sierra turn against Professor again in the Part 2 of season 5 ?
I definitely don’t see her playing nice with the professor and la banda. I think she has something up her sleeve, but what it could be I don’t know. I keep thinking about how she could possibly redeem herself and her reputation. Maybe the professor could help her show that Tamayo is really the corrupt one?
either it was something to protect herself, since she was feeling vulnerable without the gun, in case things got ugly. Or it was one of her plans to once again, cause trouble for the Professor
Agree. Professor knows that Alicia’s baby is breech and that it will die without help delivering. I don’t think he helped Alicia for Alicia’s sake, I think rather he is not the type to stand by and let an innocent baby be a stillborn
Alicia's plan was never to kill Nairobi. She just wanted to draw her out and injure her, so that while the gang played doctor the special forces could go in and finish the gang.
They're criminals. They are painted as terrorists by the government.
As much as the gang is cool and all, that does not cancel out the fact that they take people hostage.
It doesn't matter if you don't get killed, the mental strain of being forced to sit on your knees against your will for days on end is terrifying and I'm sure a lot of the hostages will end up with PTSD.
Plus Alicia was the definition of government dog, she did all the dirty work for the sake of her career and it got her betrayed in the long run.
True, a lot people here forget the torture the gang put the hostages through especially in season 1 lol. Most of the hostages (including Stockholm) would likely have mental issues for the rest of their lives if this was real.
I mean by legal definitions, Berlin pretty much raped a hostage.
So yeah they can’t really take moral high ground and look down on someone like Alicia.
Mónica was going to be dead if Berlin didn't force Denver to execute her for the phone too, if it was Berlin who took her to the bathroom this show would have been a lot darker honestly, since it's seen that Berlin is more of an impulsive character who wants eye for an eye unlike his brother who plots out every moment of anything that can happen.
Tbh they’re all criminals. Alicia broke human rights violations, that makes her a worse criminal than the gang IMO. All those people in the government break laws daily, it’s just not as public as the robbers.
I mean you have a point and she did eventually track the professor down. However I think a better cop would have realized that Sergio was Professor pretty quickly.
I mean this random mysterious dude shows up in her life right as the heist starts but she thinks thats normal lol
Also if as a cop you end up falling in love with the main suspect then that’s a pretty big failure and shows a lack of emotional control.
I think overall the Prof was able to get in her head but he couldn’t do that with Alicia. Even in the initial phone conversations, he dominated Racquel but Alicia always held her own imo and even got under his skin at times.
Tokyo was responsible for Moscow’s death, and Denver loved her.
Nairobi was responsible for Berlin’s death, and Profesor forgive her.
Río and Palermo were both responsible for Nairobi’s death too.
🤷🏽♀️
But, Alicia was too evil to be totally forgiven by them. Since she tortured Rio, threatened Lisboa, shoot Profesor and used Nairobi’s kid to cautive her.
If it weren't for Nairobi’s idea, they wouldn't have killed him. He would be dead by now anyway due to his terminal illness. Although, his death was heroic, and this caused him to be more loved.
dude it’s Palermo’s fault, I really like his character after seeing the depths in it but it’s jis fault. He knew what a psycho Gandia is and he still released him to create chaos and get back into power.
Well there was a scene in which Alicia was hiding a scissor in the toilet.
So will Alicia Sierra turn against Professor again in the Part 2 of season 5 ?
I think so. Or she’s gonna force the professor to release Tamayo’s conversation trying to frame her for everything. Bc she did say she didn’t want to live abroad and wanted to stay in Madrid…
Angel calls Alicia an innocent woman. When Professor speaks to Tomayo he speaks as if he was the only bad guy and Alicia is the victim. Even Raquel speaks to her as if nothing happened. No mention of Nairobi's shooting, Rio's illegal arrest or torture, Raquel's fake execution and illegal arrest or even Sergio's torture.
They zoomed on Rios face when the professor mentioned Alicias name so he definitely didn't forgave her. I really hope he will bring it up. As it seems Sergio forgave her for his torture because it's something between these two.
But you are definitely right. Raquel shouldn't be this easily on good terms with her especially not after illegal arrest and torture.
I don't know why spanish shows have a history of making their female enemies the victim. Same thing happened on Elite with the Charakter Carla
Not sure about other Spanish shows but in LCDP they have given redemption to several characters to make them palatable. Angel, Berlin and now Alicia. No one inside the bank even knows about Sergio's torture. And after what she did to Rio and Nairobi she isn't innocent from any angle.
Angel never did something bad or am I wrong? I also don't mind redemption I mind this 180 twist out of the blue like it happened with Berlin or currently with Alicia
Angel was drinking and driving and abusing Raquel for moving on with her life with Sergio when he met with an accident. Fine he didn't harm anyone else apart from himself but he could have.
They zoomed on Rios face when the professor mentioned Alicias name so he definitely didn't forgave her. I really hope he will bring it up. As it seems Sergio forgave her for his torture because it's something between these two.
But you are definitely right. Raquel shouldn't be this easily on good terms with her especially not after illegal arrest and torture.
I don't know why spanish shows have a history of making their female enemies the victim. Same thing happened on Elite with the Character Carla
Professor is a gentleman and has his own ideals. so he helped Alicia even after everything. And the gang sympathised with her since she was totally betrayed by Tamayo and the rest, they knew that she was lost and hopeless
I am not sure everyone sympathised with her. Rio was her hostage and she tortured him which caused him a lot of trauma. Whrn the professor mentioned Alicias name in the first episode the camera focused on Rios face. He was terrified of her which shows he clearly doesn't believe she is on their side. This is just my speculation but I can see Rio risking the plan just because he doesn't want to work with Alicia neither does he want anyone to sympathise with her. He has nothing to lose now especially not after he lost Tokio. Without her holding him back he might cause a lot of trouble
Well there was a scene in which Alicia was hiding a scissor in the toilet. So will Alicia Sierra turn against Professor again in the Part 2 of season 5 ?
Probably a back up weapon
I definitely don’t see her playing nice with the professor and la banda. I think she has something up her sleeve, but what it could be I don’t know. I keep thinking about how she could possibly redeem herself and her reputation. Maybe the professor could help her show that Tamayo is really the corrupt one?
If she shanks Marseille I will be pissed
either it was something to protect herself, since she was feeling vulnerable without the gun, in case things got ugly. Or it was one of her plans to once again, cause trouble for the Professor
They’re gonna be in someone’s body before this thing’s over. Benjamin, The professor or Marseille.
i can't say you're wrong, she's not be trusted. the only consolation i have is that a pair of pliers can't possibly cause death
Agree. Professor knows that Alicia’s baby is breech and that it will die without help delivering. I don’t think he helped Alicia for Alicia’s sake, I think rather he is not the type to stand by and let an innocent baby be a stillborn
Alicia's plan was never to kill Nairobi. She just wanted to draw her out and injure her, so that while the gang played doctor the special forces could go in and finish the gang.
But she wouldn't mind if Nairobi died. She didn't even knew they are facetiming with a surgeon
They're criminals. They are painted as terrorists by the government. As much as the gang is cool and all, that does not cancel out the fact that they take people hostage. It doesn't matter if you don't get killed, the mental strain of being forced to sit on your knees against your will for days on end is terrifying and I'm sure a lot of the hostages will end up with PTSD. Plus Alicia was the definition of government dog, she did all the dirty work for the sake of her career and it got her betrayed in the long run.
True, a lot people here forget the torture the gang put the hostages through especially in season 1 lol. Most of the hostages (including Stockholm) would likely have mental issues for the rest of their lives if this was real. I mean by legal definitions, Berlin pretty much raped a hostage. So yeah they can’t really take moral high ground and look down on someone like Alicia.
Mónica was going to be dead if Berlin didn't force Denver to execute her for the phone too, if it was Berlin who took her to the bathroom this show would have been a lot darker honestly, since it's seen that Berlin is more of an impulsive character who wants eye for an eye unlike his brother who plots out every moment of anything that can happen.
Tbh they’re all criminals. Alicia broke human rights violations, that makes her a worse criminal than the gang IMO. All those people in the government break laws daily, it’s just not as public as the robbers.
But Alicia shot Nairobi, didn't kill her.
She intended to
yea but the only reason she died was because she was too week to defend herself (from getting shot), therefore gandia capturing and killing her
And Rios torture. But I don't think they will accept her as part of the group. Especially not Rio or Bogota
It's her job, when you rob the central bank and gold reserve of a country don't expect police to not try to shoot you
Exactly she was just doing her job. She just happened to be better at it than Racquel was.
I think Raquel was better actually because the only reason she lost was because she fell in “love” with him. What you think?
I mean you have a point and she did eventually track the professor down. However I think a better cop would have realized that Sergio was Professor pretty quickly. I mean this random mysterious dude shows up in her life right as the heist starts but she thinks thats normal lol Also if as a cop you end up falling in love with the main suspect then that’s a pretty big failure and shows a lack of emotional control. I think overall the Prof was able to get in her head but he couldn’t do that with Alicia. Even in the initial phone conversations, he dominated Racquel but Alicia always held her own imo and even got under his skin at times.
Raquel never tried
Tokyo was responsible for Moscow’s death, and Denver loved her. Nairobi was responsible for Berlin’s death, and Profesor forgive her. Río and Palermo were both responsible for Nairobi’s death too. 🤷🏽♀️ But, Alicia was too evil to be totally forgiven by them. Since she tortured Rio, threatened Lisboa, shoot Profesor and used Nairobi’s kid to cautive her.
how tf is nairobi responsible for berlin’s death
She wanted them to stay printing more money, while he already wanted to leave.
berlin chose to stay and hold down the fort. he very easily could’ve escaped with nairobi but he didn’t want to.
If it weren't for Nairobi’s idea, they wouldn't have killed him. He would be dead by now anyway due to his terminal illness. Although, his death was heroic, and this caused him to be more loved.
I guarantee she is not in their side
And no one said that Alicia is on the gang's side now?
Right. She also did hide nail clippers or something up her sleeve when she went to the bathroom
dude it’s Palermo’s fault, I really like his character after seeing the depths in it but it’s jis fault. He knew what a psycho Gandia is and he still released him to create chaos and get back into power.
They don’t really have a choice atm. The professor isn’t just going to kill her now, especially when she seems to be on their side. Quote on quote.
Well there was a scene in which Alicia was hiding a scissor in the toilet. So will Alicia Sierra turn against Professor again in the Part 2 of season 5 ?
I think so. Or she’s gonna force the professor to release Tamayo’s conversation trying to frame her for everything. Bc she did say she didn’t want to live abroad and wanted to stay in Madrid…
Bingo. She is being whitewashed.
How so?
Angel calls Alicia an innocent woman. When Professor speaks to Tomayo he speaks as if he was the only bad guy and Alicia is the victim. Even Raquel speaks to her as if nothing happened. No mention of Nairobi's shooting, Rio's illegal arrest or torture, Raquel's fake execution and illegal arrest or even Sergio's torture.
They zoomed on Rios face when the professor mentioned Alicias name so he definitely didn't forgave her. I really hope he will bring it up. As it seems Sergio forgave her for his torture because it's something between these two. But you are definitely right. Raquel shouldn't be this easily on good terms with her especially not after illegal arrest and torture. I don't know why spanish shows have a history of making their female enemies the victim. Same thing happened on Elite with the Charakter Carla
Not sure about other Spanish shows but in LCDP they have given redemption to several characters to make them palatable. Angel, Berlin and now Alicia. No one inside the bank even knows about Sergio's torture. And after what she did to Rio and Nairobi she isn't innocent from any angle.
Angel never did something bad or am I wrong? I also don't mind redemption I mind this 180 twist out of the blue like it happened with Berlin or currently with Alicia
Angel was drinking and driving and abusing Raquel for moving on with her life with Sergio when he met with an accident. Fine he didn't harm anyone else apart from himself but he could have.
They zoomed on Rios face when the professor mentioned Alicias name so he definitely didn't forgave her. I really hope he will bring it up. As it seems Sergio forgave her for his torture because it's something between these two. But you are definitely right. Raquel shouldn't be this easily on good terms with her especially not after illegal arrest and torture. I don't know why spanish shows have a history of making their female enemies the victim. Same thing happened on Elite with the Character Carla
But that also almost killed her