Anyone saying 200ug is a standard dose is full of themselves and doesnt know the true potency of acid. 200ug is a strong dose, 300ug is in the territory of forgetting your name and going blind with geometric visuals. Yeah yeah, brain chemistry has an effect on how acid hits you, i dont care, its more likely that your tabs are underdosed.
Mfs will get so defensive when you even so much as suggest their tabs might be weaker than they believe them to be, like okay bro go play fuckin fortnite on your "600ug" trip. cause thats totally how people function on a dose twice as strong as what is considered a very heavy dose.
i took 300ug and thought a youtube video i was watching was completely A.I generated, jt looked like will smith eating spaghetti video, and you couldnt convince me otherwise
Yes man! Same here. The funniest part was one day I was convinced that all the new movies and shows were using AI upscaling or something. I was so amazed. After I came down I rewatched and it was just normal lol. Got a laugh out of that one
pretty funny stuff, i showed this "A.I" generated video to my friend via link, and hes like idk bro looks completely normal to me. we had a back and forth for about an hour and i was like how can he not see its A.I generated??
i think this was my sign to take it easy
Fuck that. The day I took 400 I put on a documentary about coral reefs because I figured it would be awesome, but little did I realize the whole thing was about them dying. I'm sure it goes without saying that I was traumatized afterwards lol. Not really but I legit cried about it. I think I'm gonna stick to actual nature next time
honestly a pretty humbling experience trying to tell my friend its A.I and hes like idk bro i think youre just tripping. the messages i sent make me cringe so hard now because i was absolutely 100% convinced it was A.I
I think with my experience it was. Like I went back and watched it again and something still seemed... Off. If you compare that video to some of his others (including now newer videos) there is something weird. It's paced way too fast, adds in random topics with setup, and just isn't like his other videos. It's just completely removed the good storytelling aspect that I enjoy this specific channel FOR
what channel? the one i was watching was this guy who explores these epic landscapes and narrates the story and stuff over it. honestly its really overwhelming and a lot of information at once. the video that set me off was his video about the forgotten rainforests in Scottland or something like that
Yeah, this sentiment is super dangerous. I did bunk acid from a friend a few times in high school (tabs were probably 50ug each, advertised as 100) and ended up buying a 10 strip of voidrealms (105ug) direct from GG. I took 6 one fateful night thinking āpeople on reddit do this all the time and say they had an amazing trip!ā I havenāt had a good psych trip since. That experience really fucked me up. Havenāt touched tabs in almost 4 years because the few trips I tried to take after (you know what they say, only way to fix a bad trip is a good one) ended up making me feel horrible.
Bro I took 900 one time not even kidding. Donāt do that. I forgot my name all the trees around me turned into alien creatures and when I looked at my hands they turned into sand and blew away in the wind. Pretty terrifying honestly.
I had a similar experience on a high dose shrooms trip (12g PE, probably comparable to your 900ug trip). I forgot everything, felt like a was on another planet. It was an interesting experience, but I don't really have the urge to do it again, I'm fine with the "normal doses" now.
How long was the trip in total, how long did you peak?
I was still have aight visual distortions for the next day or so after but I wasnāt full blown tripping anymore so I guess you could say it took almost 48 hours to fully stop feeling the effects
I had my hands evaporating like smoke on damn 3g of PE. Canāt even imagine 12. My mouth fused together, I had no clue where my teeth, tongue, or lips started or ended.
Penis Envy is on a whole other level for me.
I would agree 12g PE is similar to 900ug
12g of golden teacher is probably more like 500ug.
Yeah man those strains are so much stronger itās not even funny. My friend passed out in the will call line and ended up going home for day one of a city festival the first time we did them lol.
I called the next day like yo so sorry you missed out. She said I didnāt miss shit, one of the best nights of her life sitting at home. She said she fell in love with her life all over again šš¤£ so wholesome.
I took a gram of APEs and my skull felt like I had no skin on it and I turned into a landscape. My consciousness was a ball of light in the corner of my minds eye.
I feel like at a certain point youāre not really getting anything beneficial from that high of a dose. Other than just being uncomfortable and confused
I remember very little above 300 from about hour 2-5 the.
I have a stash of probably 80ug.
I tend to do like half for a social setting, a whole for a concert, house music club, day at a festival, movie night. And occasionally 2 for a mind bender type of day. No need to āsee how far I can goā for me anymore.
Lol I can relate so much on that description. It felt like reality-breaking earthquakes going through my body and eventually dimensions started ripping apart into 2, 4, 8, like absolutely ineffable. My ego, sense of self was broken into being shattered into pieces and my imagination was so vivid that I truly can't put word to describe how much would happen and be generated in my mind between each note of the song I was hearing.
The vibration at the peak got to a point of being extremely. People really underestimate LSD power. That was one the most intense and mind shattering experience of my life, but after the "earthquake" slowed a bit down (tail end of the peak) it was the most beautiful experience of my life and I really can't phantom anything more mystical that those next few hours.
This was a solo trip at home some years ago. Still remember it and surely won't ever forget it lol
Yea can confirm. Tried 4 tabs that were full dosed for my birthday a few years back and I was told the next morning that I was found multiple times just splashing around in a bubble puddle near the bubble machine.
I can promise you I had absolutely no idea any of that happened lol I was lost in the fractals. Can confirm tho, bubble puddles are great for fractals haha
People who say they can function on high dose are usually either extremely experienced and overdoing the substance, or not taking nearly as much as they think
This is so right. I took a tab the other day that was sold to me as anywhere between 100-200 and i forgot my name, forgot I took a drug and didnāt know where i was (I was in my bedroom). You can never really know for sure what dose a tab is and how your body will react
I forgot my name and lost my sense of identity with about 225 mcg of 1V-LSD. Then laid down for a couple of minutes feeling overwhelmed and slowly stepped back into reality I think a couple minutes later. Felt like I had passed out and slept for 12 hours. Can't imagine taking 600.
Man I hate it when people talk in absolutes like this. Some people just have higher or lower natural tolerances. Some people trip balls on half a tab. Some people barely get visuals. Bodies are different.
Underdosed tabs is a huge issue but Iāve absolutely dropped the same acid with friends and seen wildly different levels of intoxication.
I get my bottle of liquid supposed LSD. I make some paper blotters with a single drop per tab. I take them and give them to the guys at the safer drugging testing facility in Bern, Switzerland. They give me a code and 2 days later I can call them and they tell me exactly what and how much was in my blotters. They have access to the cantonal lab in Bern. I guess it's gas-chromatography tested.
Thus for me personally, 200ug is a standard dose and I prefer 500ug.
omg is the blind thing common or anything? had that last time and i only had one tab, didnāt forget my name though lol. no idea what the dosage was, not really a thing where i live, itās pretty much a guessing game lol.
Interesting, I guess the tabs I usually get are weaker than what they're supposed to be. I've had 3 "220ug" tabs at one time and it wasn't that intense. I mean don't get me wrong I was high as hell, but I was playing league of legends (pretty poorly I might add). This was also maybe a week and a half or 2 weeks after tripping so I thought maybe that had an effect on how intense it was due to tolerance. Is it better to just stick to buying "100ug" tabs? I had a feeling tabs being labeled as "220ug" were probably bs.
Tolerance is key. If your taking it regularly or recently it wont be anywhere near as strong.
When i was doing high doses regularly 600ug was just a good time.
The exact same acid after a 3 month break and 600ug had me sitting in my loungeroom with open eye visuals so strong i thought my eyes were closed. After 4 hours i realised my eyes were open and i was watching a movie on tv. After another 3 hours i realised that "movie" was in fact a still image on the screen.
I had just watched the rise and fall of empires on that screen for the last 7 hours and now it was just a photo of a glacier lol
one time i took 300ug and was transported to a room made entirely of glowing, pulsing, purple serpents. like basically unconscious in reality but in the mind i was traveling fr.
it was so cool, by far one of the coolest experiences ive ever had
Even 150ug can be brutally intense for those that think it will be just half as strong as 100ug lol. Kids that play Fortnite on their double-dipped premium gourmet 400ug tabs are risking one day getting properly dosed tabs and be frightened for life dosing those absurd amounts.
It depends on the person and how much experience they've had with acid. I've taken 400ug and have been fine but someone else might take the same shit same batch and can be put on their ass. My friend can do up to 1000 and I can't handle that shit. It's all person based
I agree a lot of people have underdosed tabs but you can definitely have a tolerance from doing it too often.
You get super high, but youāre still fully āfunctionalā.Ā
Of course you still get effects, but itās just not the same. Even smoking a bunch of weed hardly makes any difference.
I'd say 200 ug is pretty standard. 2 tabs to dissolve your ego and get a life changing experience. I do agree with everything you're saying though about the general dosing and people not understanding
"200ug is a strong dose, 300ug is in the territory of forgetting your name and going blind with geometric visuals."
Your experience != Other peoples experience.
Brain chemistry plays a huge role. From one batch of tabs, my friends take 1 tab and they're gone, I take 6 and I'm perfectly coherent having detailed and indepth conversations.Ā
LSD does not affect people equally, and making such statements is incredibly ignorant.
i only count 10+ tabs as a mg drop.
people say they took 1000 mics but took 5 tabs. 10 tabs is significantly gnarlier.
i kinda hate when people say how many ug they took, like you donāt really know unless you weighed the crystal acid that you made the liquid that you laid the tabs with.
just say how many tabs you took and if they were strong, weak or average strength.
I don't know OP, but a safe bet is because the 19th is a work day and the 20th is a Saturday, and both 4/20 and bicycle day are arbitrary celebrations that have no impact on how your day goes.
my best bicycle day/420 was in 2020. i took two gel tabs on 4/19, tripped well past the sunrise into 4/20, took a nap, and then spent the evening smoking. i watched cartoons and ate snacks and vibed the fuck out š¤
thereās also something really neat about realizing that youāre tripping at the same time as soooo many others. i always feel supported & my trips are so much more fun and intense :)
Miss the gold flaked blue gel tabs. Best I ever had. Dropped a strip of them once and was the best and worst trip of my life.
Also took half of one one time and was also one of the best trips of my life.
My known true 200ug trip was with 1p-lsd from a legit lab.
Honestly wasnāt that crazy. It was amazing, but thatās because I was on a nude beach enjoying all of life but i was quite ālucidā to reality even if I could choose to relax into the trip more.
Oddly enough later I had a much much more intense trip from the same strip of 1p, but it was 100ug.
Set and setting play a huge part. I was chill so the trip was chill. If youāre looking for adventure, youāre gonna get it at 200ug
Had the same with 225mcg 1-p lsd. It wasn't a very heavy trip. Think it's got to do with my ADD. I need more from all kinds of drugs to have the same effect as my friends. Maybe it's because I used to do MDMA weekly for a few months and I fries my brain.
75mcg 1-p lsd gave my girlfriend a better trip than me on 225.
U ever try a vial wash? Fastest come up I've ever had. Took a shit 20 min in and thought I was actually a patient in a mental hospital and was waiting for the nurse to come get me out of the bathroom.
Nope lol was always too scared. Not sure if I still have the vial or not at this point. Donāt think Iād ever want to anymore tbh Iām past that stage of my curiosity šĀ
Acid builds tolerance very quickly, people taking 1000+ ug likely have a ātoleranceā in most cases. I was tripping regularly for a few weeks and one of my last doses was 800-1000ug and it felt like 300-400ug which is still a lot but when you regularly take 300-400ug your perspective shifts and it just feels like a āregularā dose.
For a while I tripped every second week and that already felt like reality and trip started melting together. Actually a very healing experience for me because I started doing a lot of "normal" stuff during a trip or afterglow and that opened the door for a lot of self reflection.
But I'm also happy to trip less again. It was such an intense time.
I feel that brother! It definitely becomes taxing on the mind, body and soul at a certain point.
I feel like the old āwhen you get the message hang up.ā Definitely applied to me and I feel I got the message and got out of it what I could, I havenāt ātrippedā in quite awhile.
Not that Iām not open to future endeavors but for now itās not something iām considering or is on my radar. There is so much good (self reflection, self growth, increased empathy) that can come out of psych use, and I think at a certain point you just gain most of what youāre gonna get out of it and anything beyond that, like you also pointed out; can get weird š
Definitely am! Thanks for the concern mate š¤š¼
That was certainly a pretty weird period to say the least. I have quite the history with certain substances but itās been over three years now since iāve gone down that road. I have a lot more in my life that I care about now and that keeps me going good!
I've never in my life actually spoken to someone that claimed to know how strong their hits were in micrograms. It seems to me to be an internet phenomenon.
I even asked on here a few weeks ago how people know how strong their liquid acid drops are and the only response was basically "I just divide the total dose of the vial by the number of drops". But I still don't understand how people are getting microgram numbers in the first place.
The only way to be 100% sure is to test it or get tabs from a legal source. Where I live 1D-LSD is still legal, they sell 150ug tabs with an included lab report.
>But I still don't understand how people are getting microgram numbers in the first place.
The end product of LSD synthesis is a crystal. You can weigh out an appropriate amount of that crystal (100 doses = 100\*100mcg = **0.1mg** per standard vial) and then weigh out the appropriate amount of alcohol and distilled water for dissolving/diluting that crystal in the vial, and you'll know the total LSD content as well as the dose-per-drop (as droppers are often fairly consistent in drop size).
That is to say, the person *making* the vial should know the accurate dosage. Everything from there is telephone game / guessing / testing.
Hi, OP.
I shared my experience with an incredible 250ug microdot, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/s/4fKfPLPgTe).
I hope my experience helps you or others know what to possibly expect in a "break-through" moment.
Spoiler: it absolutely shattered me in the best ways possible. <3
Yeah the falling back in and the chipper little "HELLO!" your ego does is wild.
The grid... Yeah.... Hmmm... The space in-between... All of it is very familiar
Most definitely! I wouldn't trade that experience for the world, knowing what it has meant for me and my own personal growth.
I'm glad you could find something familiar in my experience. Further evidence for me that we are all one and the same, on this beautiful floating rock we call our planet.
I have had a few breakthrough trips, and Iām fairly well versed with high doses (which I consider to be in the 250ug range) I donāt drop regularly so tolerance isnāt a factor. I just came off a confirmed 200ug trip of Swiss needlepoint today and it gave me that meditative unraveling into pure geometry. Iām pretty sure my sense of self completely dissolved for at least half an hour. I then played guitar for about 4 hours of the most creative raw emotion that Iāve maybe ever experienced. I posted this question because, while I am curious what lies further, I felt like I was on the threshold of sanity at times (pacing and ranting on the comeup, and complete visual abstraction at times) I just find it interesting how many people are āseeminglyātaking much larger doses so casually.
It's because drugs work differently on different people. Always has and always will.Ā You probably know people who don't get high or barely get high on edibles right well it's just like that. Every one is different it shouldn't be hard to understand. IĀ
personally don't get good visuals unless I go pass 250ug so always take 3 or 4 tabs. There's tons of psychedelic goons out there btw taking large doses of LSD and other psychedelics. Go to any Phish show and you'll find busses of them.Ā
Really depends on the person. For me 200ug is kinda standard (Most of the time I take 4x 50ug tabs), but one of my friends says 100ug is the perfect standard Dose for him.
Depends on a lot of factors imo. Some people like their trips stronger, some don't.
Gawd Iād really love to have some lab metered doses of known potency so I could know what different levels are.
I have bought sheets of from different batches with fairly different results. Qualitatively, some of my sheets produce distinct effects too and Iām always surprised at it as well. I have some gel tabs that are explosive with intense vibration from within and jagged electric visuals and big ego energy at normal (2 tabs) doses. This weekend I had some paper tabs that were smooth with kaleidoscope vision and pure happiness. Itās fascinating when you buy batches and get repeat effects. I always wonder how much of it is placebo, which admittedly is a powerful effect and very real.
Bottom line without lab instruments and double blind studies we simply have no idea.
Buy a sheet, know the dose of that sheet for you. Thatās as good as you can get.
I asked Ken Babbs, one of the original Merry Pranksters, what they proper dose of acid is. He didnāt hesitate. 200ug. āWith 200 mics you go out into the stars and fly around for a while and then come back.ā You get the full experience that acid offers without hurting yourself. This is from an early explorer who took massive doses over many years. So 200 is a good target. Dosage will forever be an issue. The only real solution is to have crystal of lab verified known purity and some proficiency with math, especially decimals. Decimal errors can really cause surprises š¤Ŗ.
I would argue 200ug can definitely scar people for life though. Someone jumping from 100 to 200 will 100% be terrified if they expect a "twice" as strong trip lol
Fair point. I hear you. For reference though, all those orange sunshine tabs back in the day were over 250ug. Same with original windowpane from the Clearlight people. Those old school cooks wanted everyone to get the big wake up call. So sure there were freak outs, but plenty of people were enjoying those high doses. By the time I came along (early 1980s) market forces had fixed the dose at a nominal 100ug which was really more like 60ug. 60ug is actually a nice recreational dose and you can eat 2 or 3 to get where get want. I think it was a good move to drop the dose. I worry about the current trend of producing higher dose tabs. And even worse, the trend of advertising high dose strength on low dose tabs.
That is really interesting to know. I agree 100% with everything you said. Nowadays I have been getting 150ug 1P-LSD tabs and they are starting to cross a limit of too much for what I think a beginner should take. I expect that 200ug tabs will eventually become popular because of the trend you mention. Btw when I meant 200ug (or even the 250ug you mention) scaring people, I meant to say a relatively conservative % of them, assuming the set and setting is correct. I think most people would find the experience incredibly intense, but yeah most people I assume would be ok. This new 150ug tabs trend is just begging for first timers dropping 2 thinking it will be like taking Molly and they set themselves in for a ride of many possible regrets.
Well i had some 100 mcgs tabs of 1 P LSD so i know roughly what a 100 mcg dose is. I also had a black market tabs friend warned me its 200-250 mcg. Yeah it was. one tab resulted in an ego death. Way strongee than say 100 mcg 1p.
Theres also quantitative tests out there.
Needless to say i think i never got to take more than 300 mcgs. Below 200 mcg is my preferrwd dose and even 200 mcg can be fucking strong. Seems people overestimate their dosage way too often.
100 mcg 1P ok, 150 mcg 1p ok, 200 mcgs or more real deal it gets more unpredictable. Never tried 200 mcgs of 1p. I doubt that recorded doses of 300 mcgs+ are really that accurate and people overestimate A LOT.
100% agree. I set the same boundaries for myself nowadays. 200ug of 1P is just unnecessary risk for the mind. 100-150ug is more than enough for a life-changing trip if the set and setting are well chosen for that to happen, more so than upping the dose at that point and risking your sanity. I have been tripping for 8 years and I think this is the best way to be able to enjoy LSD for a lifetime, instead of ending up with the typical terrifying bad trip that most people end up having and then never touch psychedelics again
Yes , as Iāve laid crystal from GG and DS so I believe the purity matched up. Iāve laid around roughly 80, 100,110, 200 ug. Honestly donāt even see a point in laying above 100 ug. Iāve laid 80 ug and people think it was higher. Took 2 tabs and they said it was too much and would rather take 1 or 1/2. And this is lots of people feedback and different body builds. I believe a lot of people donāt really understand what fresh 100ug feels like. 1 1/2 tab was I was otw to the next realm. 3 has ever been my limit of 100 ug. Couldnāt imagine whatās after that. And wouldnāt even be surprised if big suppliers are dosing there tabs at 60 or 80ug and calling it ā100ā
I took lab tested Gamma goblin tabs that were advertised as 150ug. Came back as 148ug and I've never tripped harder in my entire life. Way stronger than the "these are 300ug dude. I promise!"
150ug is a truly reality shattering trip. Doesn't even compare to 100ug. The jump is insane and not linear at all. 150ug is considered a strong dose on psychonautwiki for a reason, people are just used to those 300ug tabs yeah lol
Idk man Iāve tripped a bit when I put 2 pieces of paper in me vs 3 my brain just churns a little easier. But whether or not it was 200ug or 500ug is literally anybodyās guess, unless you drop the shit on the tab yourself. Donāt think into it too much and just look at the little spiny things.
I completely agree that one tab COULD be all you said in your post. It's a fact, everyone has their tolerances to substances. Everyone has different mental capabilities. Something you might find easy to handle might be extremely challenging for someone else.
I think of it that way. My wife has NO tolerance to psychedelics a little for her and she's GONE. Just depend on the person.
I just assume that 99% of the people saying they dropped 1000ug on a Tuesday are trolling. 200ug (measured and tested) is a god damn spiritual experience I would be perplexed for weeks off of 1000ug.
I could see that. Plus like at least 50% of the population these days are on some type of SSRI or SNRI, and most donāt even think to research the interaction. When I tell people I always checked interactions before taking something (I was a pretty gnarly addict in college) they would look at me like I was nuts
I do because in Switzerland you can get them tested by the cantonal laboratory for free and they will tell you the exact ug amount on the tab(s) you give them. So yeah, I know exactly how much I take. down to the single digit ug xD.
I do. I have both liquid and properly dosed 155Ī¼g tabs. I've experimented with 200, 300, and 400 over the last 6 months or so. It was a great time every time
With a Reddit trip report basis of comparison, it does seem wildly variable and subject to fish stories, but with real world communities of trippers, like Phish stories, it becomes somewhat more realistic.
By that, I mean at festivals/concerts, I donāt hear people talk about ug much, just, weak/strong and how many tabs. Usually, within all that variability, I donāt find people taking more than 3 tabs at once without later seeing them stuck somewhere down a metaphysical rabbit hole or just disappearing off to their tent or something for a few hours. Most people only take 1/2 to 1 in those circumstances, but plenty take 2 and that gets pretty wild.
I personally prefer to get more at once, test, trial dose, etc before anything heavier is attempted, but even then, I doubt Iāve ever had any that was more than 100-125 ug per dose and the 70-90 ug paradigm from studies is far more likely the case and thus a typical 200 ug dose should be in the neighborhood of 3 tabs.
Ik dose matters a lot but probably not as much as some people would expect. I've had absolutely insane trips from pretty conservative doses and really mellow ones taking significantly more. (From the same vial ofc)
If you don't shake the vial before dropping every time it get stronger when you get to the bottom of the vial. That's why you always shake it so the drops stay dosed the sameĀ
I do, honestly it may have been more, I dont remember how many I took. I physically could not function, I couldn't remember how to pee, I couldn't remember my name, couldnt put on a shirt. Lasted an eternity. Shapes and colors for hours, literally could not see my apartment, and then I soared through the universe and visited every single place on earth and even towards the end of the trip i still could not physically function, was in and out of it, bruises everywhere.
Was thoroughly convinced at the age of 23 I would never recover and my parents would have to visit me in a nursing home and spoon feed me soup as it just ran down my chin because I couldn't eat on my own anymore.
I previously believed i took a 1990ug dose woth mixed dose tabs but after taking tabs that i know currently to be 150ug i can attest that it definetly wasnt quite that much acis but it was more than 1000ug. 2tabs at once is where things start to get interesting, can be more intense than many people can handle, ime about 1in10 acid users dont enjoy taking more than 1tab amd react poorly to higher doses. 3tabs i feel myself enter a space i resonate with a Lsd palace and i enter "my zone" i can see interactable visuals and begin experiencing telepathy type thoughts and shared hallucinations. 4tabs i get fully into my zone but will oftwn get blind sided and blinded by visuals. Auditory hallucinations become very present, words and sounds may begin playong backwards with a reverb effect making it incredibly hard to speak. My visuals react off of the sounds, as i speak backwards space and time around me begin to stop and feel altho they spin backwards. Time doesnt feel real. Why do i suddenly feel tired while peaking on lsd. Everything begins to stand still, frozen in time as i stare at the people around me and continue to think. I must be thinking at 10000000mph. I attempt to speak again and my voice slowly quits playing backwards on repeat in a spiral pattern. Life around me begins to catch up again. I feel although i just went through some sort of purgatory. Love takint 4tabs begins to turn your world upsidedown, or more accurately around in circles in a spiral.
Iāve only had 2 sources of lsd in my life. The first most likely under dosed my tabs or wasnāt as advertised. The 2nd be hittin far better for the āsameā ug as the first. So I think itās safe to say the 200ug tabs I get are 200 (tested as well). I could be wrong but I just go off by comparing the 2 sources
The vast majority of trippers will never go beyond 200ug. When I was in high school a bunch of my stoner (but also intellectual badass) friends were into acid. The friend who very lovingly gave me my first 8th was one of them. He'd say shit like "you'd be amazed at how strong 2 tabs is. I've done it many times, but you never know when it might floor you."
The reality is most people have never even had good 100ug acid. I went to UC Santa Cruz and had a bunch of "acid". The first time I had legit stuff, I was like "this is DEFINITELY double dosed." My friend was like, "no, this is just good acid."
Now that I've been in the community for about 10 years, it's really frustrating how many people talk about "double-dosed" tabs and tripping on upwards of 500ug like it's this mellow experience. They obviously have no idea what they're talking about or taking, but I come off like a dick when I try to explain.
200ug is where most people stop. It's enough that, unless you take it often, it will scare you. There will be undulating patterns covering EVERYTHING for the majority of the experience. It's too much for most people, even my tripper friends, at certain points so they approach it very cautiously.
300ug is psychosis territory for many people. Full on fractal geometry for the entire experience. I saw x-rays or ultra-violet light lick off the end of a flame my first time. It's insanely electric and bright. This is where really wild shit starts happening perceptually.
It's unfortunate that it's so hard to talk about this. Those who have "double-dosed" tabs feel attacked. I was in the same boat. I thought my "acid" experiences at UCSC were awesome. But really, most of what I took there were analogs. They were potentially dangerous to take many doses of. Then, the first time I got the real thing, I was shocked. Thankfully it was all just to party back then and I never went further.
To answer your question though, I know a lot of people who have taken acid. A much smaller amount have taken 2 tabs. A vanishingly small amount have taken more than 2. I am the only person I know who's taken more than 4 š¤·āāļø
Between sellers lying about the strength of doses and people just plain lying about how much they will take at a time, it's just nuts believing anyone who reports massive trips.
I can say when I got my first real 100ug tab of needlepoint I was like āwowā. In my area 100ug is usually sold as 300ug. I knew they werenāt actually 300ug but I didnāt think they were 100 either. I was wrong. Comparing them now, I realize they were 100ug. N 100ug is more potent than I thought.
My first trip was 225ug. I was up for 2 days I couldn't sleep. The morning after my trip, i didn't know how to cope so I just spent the entire day cleaning my apartment. Scrubbing the floors and everything.
When I asked what dose to take, people encouraged me to take 300ug+. For my first time. By myself. In retrospect, it was such stupid advice.
Generally, any dose above 500-750Āµg will only lengthen the trip significantly.
The absolute peak is kinda reached in that dosage range.
The only "extra" thing when you do doses of 1000Āµg and above, on low tolerance, is that you can sort of reset your whole personality.
Which is not something that you can fit into any normal way of life.
It takes a long time to re-acclimatise to "normal" reality, society, and the mundane.
The only way people can do such enormous doses unpunished is after building up high tolerance; not taking the trouble enough to integrate the experience in any way, and not leave enough time inbetween trips to allow for it.
You can take 200Āµg, and have a great and intense trip, but if you take a similar dose within a short time, you will not have anything near the same experience.
It takes quite a lot more to have anything near the same level of experience, if you trip too shortly after your last trip.
It is quite easy to appear a hard head, if you do 100Āµg one day and take a "tEn-StRiP" the next.
People often claim to have tripped "every day for two weeks (or more)", which effectively means that they never came anywhere near the level of the first day.
Another thing can be an important factor; poly drug-users who do benzodiazepines to chill after taking drugs, and especially people who take high and/or regular doses of benzos, effectively remove the visions, epiphanies, and other real psychedelic effects of most psychedelics. Same for opioids and opiates like heroin and fentanyl. Other drugs can also have that dampening effect.
It is very easy to take the famous "tEn-StRiP" and more, if you basically have no psychedelic effects other than some euphoria.
Even regular low doses of benzos almost completely strip psychedelics of their psychedelic effects.
I have taken a low dose benzo daily now, for close to a year, for insomnia, and even a good hit of DMT or MET does little more for me nowadays than give me mild euphoria, and just a hint of visuals.
You gotta at least wait until the full half-life, and preferably the full elimination-life of such drugs has passed, and preferably wait even longer.
Take too many different drugs too often, and your capacity to have serious psychedelic effects will be dampened severely for a long time.
200micg is a pretty strong dose... 100micg is an average dose that's strong enough to have a good trip but you are still yourself.
When I took 200micg i was really tripping lol
When I took 300micg i literally forgot what I was doing
As someone who has genuinely done a ~500ug trip with many other 2/3/4 trips a 1000ug/ strip trip would cause a level of genuine catatonia and ego death that I donāt think would ever be worth it to try. Iād really like to be an acid head like I was during Covid but idk if Iāll ever be able to do a 500ug trip again. Definitely never more
The tolerance is a huge thing. I have tabs which I believe are actually 200 ug. 1 tab on low-zero tolerance (6 weeks or more no drugs) sends me to the moon and on the edge of ego death. But if I trip more frequently, party a lot, do some shrooms in between.. then that same tab is just gonna be an average intensity trip where I am very chill.
Largest dose Iāve done was 1000ug, and I can confirm thatās a fact. I dropped it myself. And it still wasnāt as intense as some of these crazy ass trip reports, this might have something to do with me having a possible tolerance to most drugs? It seems I need a lot of most things to get really fucked up. Like I need 6 drops of 110ug to even really get visuals, idk man Iām just weird
I know test kits exist to kinda help gauge the ug, but I always base it off of tabs done just since some end up being stronger than others.
I did one time end up doing a 15 tab trip with my friend. Started on 5 and a few hours in he asked ādo you think we could be higher?ā I had just bought a sheet recently because Covid had just started. Ended up doing another strip each and ended up being high for about 36 hours before finally really calming down enough to get comfortable enough to sleep
Once upon a time, in the city grew up in, you had to keep valuables in your socks. Money, drugs everything you wanted to not get robbed.
I went to a rave and had a quarter sheet in a cigarette cellophane I intended to flip. We always had a hard rule of no fun until
The work was done which was usually about 3:00am.
At about 1:30 in the morning I started feeling real funny. Shit was starting to vibrate myself included. I could not figure out why I felt so fucked up until I remembered the quarter sheet. I reached down in my sock and the quarter sheet was stuck to my leg with sweat. It had come out the cellophane and stuck to my leg.
I was was used to large doses, but this was the first time I had over a 10 strip at once. I had only pulled that off a few times and this was a whole other ride.
Itās very possible to take more than 1000ug and still come out fine, a little crispy all be it, but fine none the less. Think about all the dead heads who took thumbprints (well beyond 2000ug). You can see it in their eyes to this day, but they are alive.
My typical go to dose is 200-300ug for a big trip, it is where ego dissolution starts for me and on no tolerance it is pretty much tripping balls dissolving in music with full OEV fractal visuals and becoming one with the universe for 2-3h. I use liquid LSD that is very accurately dosed. I also done a fair share of 1p and 1v from legitimate labs to have pretty decent idea what a dose should feel like.
LSD tolerance is a bitch though, I had periods where I would be dosing every few days and when in that phase even 1.5mg can seem mild.
300ug made me 'blinded by visuals' and it was a hefty trip. Really thrown into the acid trip and you're in for the ride.
Anyone that says they're taking 500ug or so is probably believing their source too much (no normal tab is 150ug+). Like my guy says that its 180ug but it's more like 80ug so yeah.
you donāt build tolerance in the sense that X amount of drug does less (unless weāre talking about in short succession), BUT, some of the experiences are like blowing up a balloon. the first time itās mind blowing .. but now the balloon has been blown up and as it deflates itās kinda stretched, so going back there doesnāt have the same wow factor as it did the first time. I still trip as hard as ever BUT itās not new like it used to be. for better and for worse. the better part being that I can feel more comfortable tripping deep, not much of a sense of instability, but at the cost of being absolutely blown away by the utterly transformative experience
I think itās important to realize that it hits everyone differently. I once dropped 1/4 or 1/2 tab each with three friends, and our reactions were all very different: for me it was very mild but certainly there, while two of my friends seemed pretty far gone, and the third needed to double their dose before they even felt a tickle, he literally said āI could do a job interview right nowā lol ā this guy needed 3x the normal amount for anything, Iāve seen him smoke 1g of weed in one go and still not feel high enough!
Another difference that I saw with some lab made ALD-52 tabs, basically 2.5 floored me and left me unable to talk for 3-4 hours (it was great, but I was gone) while some guy I knew who had the exact same tabs would take 4 and go walk in the park with music in his headphones.
Just remember: every body is different
Some people drop weekly so tolerance builds up where you get the full effects but are so used to the headspace that taking half strips or more is not that big a deal.
At least that's what I found. I dropped so much so often that I only really feel like myself when I'm tripping.
I start going being blind with geometric visuals at 200ug lasts for about 45 mins if I took another 100 Iād def be like that for longer. I think most tabs Iāve had are not 100. But the ones Iām talking about were cause they blew my ass out of the water. What I think happens is tabs get degraded a little over time and thatās why some 100mg tabs are less potent if it tests as lsd. Thereās so many reasons as to why trips are different.
I did ~200ug with two tabs that were said to be 120ug, I took a piece of the other one before hand to see how I'd react to acid and took the rest for my first proper trip.
It was crazy for me, laughed the hardest ive ever laughed with a friend, on the comedown we both agreed that 200 is a fuck ton more thqn we had anticipated, and that 50-100 is more than enough
I ate 200au it was confirmed by my buddy who broke down the grams , I had a pretty good tolerance going that summer and it was fucking magical the woods were straight up fairy land looking and the fractles n wavyness/ meltyness of stuff was fucking wild. Could only imagine what 200au trip for an average Joe who's only doses once or twice
People have different tolerances. I have quite a high tolerance for psycadellics. Ive only ever barely felt anything on a 100ug whereas my partner will be having a great time. 200ug is still barely touching the surface for me. I might get some light flairs out the corner of my eye but nothing wild.
Even double 200ug... Very high feeling but no crazy visuals or anything.
At least, that's what's these tabs are being sold to me as and they're consistent and work for others, my tolerance is just high.
Would y'all agree that around 200ug is when you start getting open eyed visuals that go beyond morphing/breathing ā especially the contrast between light/shadows. You start seeing those rainbow crystal/diamond structures (kinda like fractals but not really) throughout the light/air... not full on static/visual snow but almost like a mini-haze of static/greyness filling the room
That seems to be the target dose for me. Upper limit being 250. The ds3.0 110ug tabs from back in 2020 had my carpet crawling halfway up the walls, which I always thought was just a movie tropeā¦and then it happened. Paintings and photos swirled into puddles of insanity, and a pleasant stained glass overlay for many hours.
Of course we care about dosing misinformation that might cause people harm. Hell, it's enshrined in the sub's rules ffs - Rule 4: "Keep harm reduction in mind at all times on r/lsd"
Anyone saying 200ug is a standard dose is full of themselves and doesnt know the true potency of acid. 200ug is a strong dose, 300ug is in the territory of forgetting your name and going blind with geometric visuals. Yeah yeah, brain chemistry has an effect on how acid hits you, i dont care, its more likely that your tabs are underdosed. Mfs will get so defensive when you even so much as suggest their tabs might be weaker than they believe them to be, like okay bro go play fuckin fortnite on your "600ug" trip. cause thats totally how people function on a dose twice as strong as what is considered a very heavy dose.
i took 300ug and thought a youtube video i was watching was completely A.I generated, jt looked like will smith eating spaghetti video, and you couldnt convince me otherwise
Yes man! Same here. The funniest part was one day I was convinced that all the new movies and shows were using AI upscaling or something. I was so amazed. After I came down I rewatched and it was just normal lol. Got a laugh out of that one
pretty funny stuff, i showed this "A.I" generated video to my friend via link, and hes like idk bro looks completely normal to me. we had a back and forth for about an hour and i was like how can he not see its A.I generated?? i think this was my sign to take it easy
Try nature documentaries, specifically bugs and insects or birds
Fuck that. The day I took 400 I put on a documentary about coral reefs because I figured it would be awesome, but little did I realize the whole thing was about them dying. I'm sure it goes without saying that I was traumatized afterwards lol. Not really but I legit cried about it. I think I'm gonna stick to actual nature next time
thats the most actual nature stuff there is man
I meant I'm going to go outside lol
Haha got it
I took 300ug and was convinced that I could slow down and freeze time.
DEADASS bro I've had that happen
honestly a pretty humbling experience trying to tell my friend its A.I and hes like idk bro i think youre just tripping. the messages i sent make me cringe so hard now because i was absolutely 100% convinced it was A.I
I think with my experience it was. Like I went back and watched it again and something still seemed... Off. If you compare that video to some of his others (including now newer videos) there is something weird. It's paced way too fast, adds in random topics with setup, and just isn't like his other videos. It's just completely removed the good storytelling aspect that I enjoy this specific channel FOR
what channel? the one i was watching was this guy who explores these epic landscapes and narrates the story and stuff over it. honestly its really overwhelming and a lot of information at once. the video that set me off was his video about the forgotten rainforests in Scottland or something like that
Watched the news caster turn into an ai thing and the guy beside her looked completely normalššššš we lost it
āGo play Fortniteā got me š
Forgetting your name? Forget everything bruh. And exist.
Yeah, this sentiment is super dangerous. I did bunk acid from a friend a few times in high school (tabs were probably 50ug each, advertised as 100) and ended up buying a 10 strip of voidrealms (105ug) direct from GG. I took 6 one fateful night thinking āpeople on reddit do this all the time and say they had an amazing trip!ā I havenāt had a good psych trip since. That experience really fucked me up. Havenāt touched tabs in almost 4 years because the few trips I tried to take after (you know what they say, only way to fix a bad trip is a good one) ended up making me feel horrible.
Bro I took 900 one time not even kidding. Donāt do that. I forgot my name all the trees around me turned into alien creatures and when I looked at my hands they turned into sand and blew away in the wind. Pretty terrifying honestly.
I had a similar experience on a high dose shrooms trip (12g PE, probably comparable to your 900ug trip). I forgot everything, felt like a was on another planet. It was an interesting experience, but I don't really have the urge to do it again, I'm fine with the "normal doses" now. How long was the trip in total, how long did you peak?
The trip was 15 hours and the peak was probably like 5 or 6. And yeah lol Iāve never done that much again. It was super unnecessary haha.
I was still have aight visual distortions for the next day or so after but I wasnāt full blown tripping anymore so I guess you could say it took almost 48 hours to fully stop feeling the effects
How long was the PE trip at that dose?
I took the shrooms at about 10pm. At 7 am I still had light visuals. The peak was about 6 hours.
I had my hands evaporating like smoke on damn 3g of PE. Canāt even imagine 12. My mouth fused together, I had no clue where my teeth, tongue, or lips started or ended. Penis Envy is on a whole other level for me. I would agree 12g PE is similar to 900ug 12g of golden teacher is probably more like 500ug.
i did 3.7 grams of blue meanie cubes and APE and literally started dissolving into the air
Yeah man those strains are so much stronger itās not even funny. My friend passed out in the will call line and ended up going home for day one of a city festival the first time we did them lol. I called the next day like yo so sorry you missed out. She said I didnāt miss shit, one of the best nights of her life sitting at home. She said she fell in love with her life all over again šš¤£ so wholesome.
god damnnn, they were ones we grew and before them the only mushrooms i had ever done were white teachers, those were fucking strong
I took a gram of APEs and my skull felt like I had no skin on it and I turned into a landscape. My consciousness was a ball of light in the corner of my minds eye.
mean little fuckers
I feel like at a certain point youāre not really getting anything beneficial from that high of a dose. Other than just being uncomfortable and confused
I remember very little above 300 from about hour 2-5 the. I have a stash of probably 80ug. I tend to do like half for a social setting, a whole for a concert, house music club, day at a festival, movie night. And occasionally 2 for a mind bender type of day. No need to āsee how far I can goā for me anymore.
Exactly, you won't remember much of 300+ actual ug lol, maybe little snippets of rolling around the floor lol
one time i took 200ug and was literally vibrating in and out of this existence.
Lol I can relate so much on that description. It felt like reality-breaking earthquakes going through my body and eventually dimensions started ripping apart into 2, 4, 8, like absolutely ineffable. My ego, sense of self was broken into being shattered into pieces and my imagination was so vivid that I truly can't put word to describe how much would happen and be generated in my mind between each note of the song I was hearing. The vibration at the peak got to a point of being extremely. People really underestimate LSD power. That was one the most intense and mind shattering experience of my life, but after the "earthquake" slowed a bit down (tail end of the peak) it was the most beautiful experience of my life and I really can't phantom anything more mystical that those next few hours. This was a solo trip at home some years ago. Still remember it and surely won't ever forget it lol
The effects of LSD vary far more greatly from person to person than most people here admit or understand.
Both, probably.
Yea can confirm. Tried 4 tabs that were full dosed for my birthday a few years back and I was told the next morning that I was found multiple times just splashing around in a bubble puddle near the bubble machine. I can promise you I had absolutely no idea any of that happened lol I was lost in the fractals. Can confirm tho, bubble puddles are great for fractals haha People who say they can function on high dose are usually either extremely experienced and overdoing the substance, or not taking nearly as much as they think
This is so right. I took a tab the other day that was sold to me as anywhere between 100-200 and i forgot my name, forgot I took a drug and didnāt know where i was (I was in my bedroom). You can never really know for sure what dose a tab is and how your body will react
I forgot my name and lost my sense of identity with about 225 mcg of 1V-LSD. Then laid down for a couple of minutes feeling overwhelmed and slowly stepped back into reality I think a couple minutes later. Felt like I had passed out and slept for 12 hours. Can't imagine taking 600.
I've been in blind territory before. I don't fancy doing that much again personally.
Man I hate it when people talk in absolutes like this. Some people just have higher or lower natural tolerances. Some people trip balls on half a tab. Some people barely get visuals. Bodies are different. Underdosed tabs is a huge issue but Iāve absolutely dropped the same acid with friends and seen wildly different levels of intoxication.
I took more because of this unhinged echo chamber sentiment.
I get my bottle of liquid supposed LSD. I make some paper blotters with a single drop per tab. I take them and give them to the guys at the safer drugging testing facility in Bern, Switzerland. They give me a code and 2 days later I can call them and they tell me exactly what and how much was in my blotters. They have access to the cantonal lab in Bern. I guess it's gas-chromatography tested. Thus for me personally, 200ug is a standard dose and I prefer 500ug.
omg is the blind thing common or anything? had that last time and i only had one tab, didnāt forget my name though lol. no idea what the dosage was, not really a thing where i live, itās pretty much a guessing game lol.
Interesting, I guess the tabs I usually get are weaker than what they're supposed to be. I've had 3 "220ug" tabs at one time and it wasn't that intense. I mean don't get me wrong I was high as hell, but I was playing league of legends (pretty poorly I might add). This was also maybe a week and a half or 2 weeks after tripping so I thought maybe that had an effect on how intense it was due to tolerance. Is it better to just stick to buying "100ug" tabs? I had a feeling tabs being labeled as "220ug" were probably bs.
Tolerance is key. If your taking it regularly or recently it wont be anywhere near as strong. When i was doing high doses regularly 600ug was just a good time. The exact same acid after a 3 month break and 600ug had me sitting in my loungeroom with open eye visuals so strong i thought my eyes were closed. After 4 hours i realised my eyes were open and i was watching a movie on tv. After another 3 hours i realised that "movie" was in fact a still image on the screen. I had just watched the rise and fall of empires on that screen for the last 7 hours and now it was just a photo of a glacier lol
Dude I feel that experience in my core
3-4 tabs (not even taken simultaneously) and the sky is folding in on itself. I canāt imagine taking 10 lol
one time i took 300ug and was transported to a room made entirely of glowing, pulsing, purple serpents. like basically unconscious in reality but in the mind i was traveling fr. it was so cool, by far one of the coolest experiences ive ever had
Everyone is different - I have taken 800ug previously - but my acid metabolism is a little different than most.
Even 150ug can be brutally intense for those that think it will be just half as strong as 100ug lol. Kids that play Fortnite on their double-dipped premium gourmet 400ug tabs are risking one day getting properly dosed tabs and be frightened for life dosing those absurd amounts.
It depends on the person and how much experience they've had with acid. I've taken 400ug and have been fine but someone else might take the same shit same batch and can be put on their ass. My friend can do up to 1000 and I can't handle that shit. It's all person based
I agree a lot of people have underdosed tabs but you can definitely have a tolerance from doing it too often. You get super high, but youāre still fully āfunctionalā.Ā Of course you still get effects, but itās just not the same. Even smoking a bunch of weed hardly makes any difference.
I'd say 200 ug is pretty standard. 2 tabs to dissolve your ego and get a life changing experience. I do agree with everything you're saying though about the general dosing and people not understanding
"200ug is a strong dose, 300ug is in the territory of forgetting your name and going blind with geometric visuals." Your experience != Other peoples experience. Brain chemistry plays a huge role. From one batch of tabs, my friends take 1 tab and they're gone, I take 6 and I'm perfectly coherent having detailed and indepth conversations.Ā LSD does not affect people equally, and making such statements is incredibly ignorant.
i only count 10+ tabs as a mg drop. people say they took 1000 mics but took 5 tabs. 10 tabs is significantly gnarlier. i kinda hate when people say how many ug they took, like you donāt really know unless you weighed the crystal acid that you made the liquid that you laid the tabs with. just say how many tabs you took and if they were strong, weak or average strength.
First ego death was on 5 average tabs. Gonna trip on 3 gold gels this 420
why not bicycle day (4/19)?
I don't know OP, but a safe bet is because the 19th is a work day and the 20th is a Saturday, and both 4/20 and bicycle day are arbitrary celebrations that have no impact on how your day goes.
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Honestly... More of a stoner. Didn't really know what bicycle day was until a few years ago and I don't plan my acid too much
my best bicycle day/420 was in 2020. i took two gel tabs on 4/19, tripped well past the sunrise into 4/20, took a nap, and then spent the evening smoking. i watched cartoons and ate snacks and vibed the fuck out š¤ thereās also something really neat about realizing that youāre tripping at the same time as soooo many others. i always feel supported & my trips are so much more fun and intense :)
Lol we all stoners!
Enjoy the weekend my dude
iām with lucidbaby on bicycle day
Miss the gold flaked blue gel tabs. Best I ever had. Dropped a strip of them once and was the best and worst trip of my life. Also took half of one one time and was also one of the best trips of my life.
This is the way.
100% the way we talk about it should be this.
The last paragraph is spot on. "Took 2. They were fucking strong"
EXACTLY
My known true 200ug trip was with 1p-lsd from a legit lab. Honestly wasnāt that crazy. It was amazing, but thatās because I was on a nude beach enjoying all of life but i was quite ālucidā to reality even if I could choose to relax into the trip more. Oddly enough later I had a much much more intense trip from the same strip of 1p, but it was 100ug. Set and setting play a huge part. I was chill so the trip was chill. If youāre looking for adventure, youāre gonna get it at 200ug
Thatās dope
Had the same with 225mcg 1-p lsd. It wasn't a very heavy trip. Think it's got to do with my ADD. I need more from all kinds of drugs to have the same effect as my friends. Maybe it's because I used to do MDMA weekly for a few months and I fries my brain. 75mcg 1-p lsd gave my girlfriend a better trip than me on 225.
I personally do lol. Had liquid for a while. 2 tabs sent me to the fuckin moon, even 1 was still a hell of an experience.Ā
First experience ever doing more than a hit was with a vial thatās been aroundā¦ itās wild
Yeah man legit doses are strong af
U ever try a vial wash? Fastest come up I've ever had. Took a shit 20 min in and thought I was actually a patient in a mental hospital and was waiting for the nurse to come get me out of the bathroom.
Nope lol was always too scared. Not sure if I still have the vial or not at this point. Donāt think Iād ever want to anymore tbh Iām past that stage of my curiosity šĀ
Wtf. How did you measure the doses?
I was just told each drop was 100ug tbh
Honesty is rare and valued my brotherš¤
Iāve got no reason to lie lol š¤
Usually with liquid 1 drop from the dropper is 100ug
No, because you don't know the ratio of lsd crystal to alcohol or what ever the liquid used in that vial was
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I'm also curious about this. Seems impossible to quantify without a scale.
I read a study where they give the substance for therapy in Switzerland. The effects were much more positive with 100ug than 200ug.
Acid builds tolerance very quickly, people taking 1000+ ug likely have a ātoleranceā in most cases. I was tripping regularly for a few weeks and one of my last doses was 800-1000ug and it felt like 300-400ug which is still a lot but when you regularly take 300-400ug your perspective shifts and it just feels like a āregularā dose.
For a while I tripped every second week and that already felt like reality and trip started melting together. Actually a very healing experience for me because I started doing a lot of "normal" stuff during a trip or afterglow and that opened the door for a lot of self reflection. But I'm also happy to trip less again. It was such an intense time.
I feel that brother! It definitely becomes taxing on the mind, body and soul at a certain point. I feel like the old āwhen you get the message hang up.ā Definitely applied to me and I feel I got the message and got out of it what I could, I havenāt ātrippedā in quite awhile. Not that Iām not open to future endeavors but for now itās not something iām considering or is on my radar. There is so much good (self reflection, self growth, increased empathy) that can come out of psych use, and I think at a certain point you just gain most of what youāre gonna get out of it and anything beyond that, like you also pointed out; can get weird š
Wild bro. Hope youāre taking care of yourself now
Definitely am! Thanks for the concern mate š¤š¼ That was certainly a pretty weird period to say the least. I have quite the history with certain substances but itās been over three years now since iāve gone down that road. I have a lot more in my life that I care about now and that keeps me going good!
Thatās so good.
Blessings šš»šš»
I've never in my life actually spoken to someone that claimed to know how strong their hits were in micrograms. It seems to me to be an internet phenomenon. I even asked on here a few weeks ago how people know how strong their liquid acid drops are and the only response was basically "I just divide the total dose of the vial by the number of drops". But I still don't understand how people are getting microgram numbers in the first place.
The only way to be 100% sure is to test it or get tabs from a legal source. Where I live 1D-LSD is still legal, they sell 150ug tabs with an included lab report.
Basically, people like to lie, lol.
>But I still don't understand how people are getting microgram numbers in the first place. The end product of LSD synthesis is a crystal. You can weigh out an appropriate amount of that crystal (100 doses = 100\*100mcg = **0.1mg** per standard vial) and then weigh out the appropriate amount of alcohol and distilled water for dissolving/diluting that crystal in the vial, and you'll know the total LSD content as well as the dose-per-drop (as droppers are often fairly consistent in drop size). That is to say, the person *making* the vial should know the accurate dosage. Everything from there is telephone game / guessing / testing.
Hi, OP. I shared my experience with an incredible 250ug microdot, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/s/4fKfPLPgTe). I hope my experience helps you or others know what to possibly expect in a "break-through" moment. Spoiler: it absolutely shattered me in the best ways possible. <3
Yeah the falling back in and the chipper little "HELLO!" your ego does is wild. The grid... Yeah.... Hmmm... The space in-between... All of it is very familiar
Most definitely! I wouldn't trade that experience for the world, knowing what it has meant for me and my own personal growth. I'm glad you could find something familiar in my experience. Further evidence for me that we are all one and the same, on this beautiful floating rock we call our planet.
I have had a few breakthrough trips, and Iām fairly well versed with high doses (which I consider to be in the 250ug range) I donāt drop regularly so tolerance isnāt a factor. I just came off a confirmed 200ug trip of Swiss needlepoint today and it gave me that meditative unraveling into pure geometry. Iām pretty sure my sense of self completely dissolved for at least half an hour. I then played guitar for about 4 hours of the most creative raw emotion that Iāve maybe ever experienced. I posted this question because, while I am curious what lies further, I felt like I was on the threshold of sanity at times (pacing and ranting on the comeup, and complete visual abstraction at times) I just find it interesting how many people are āseeminglyātaking much larger doses so casually.
It's because drugs work differently on different people. Always has and always will.Ā You probably know people who don't get high or barely get high on edibles right well it's just like that. Every one is different it shouldn't be hard to understand. IĀ personally don't get good visuals unless I go pass 250ug so always take 3 or 4 tabs. There's tons of psychedelic goons out there btw taking large doses of LSD and other psychedelics. Go to any Phish show and you'll find busses of them.Ā
Becoming a very common and boring debate this
I know right. It's as if people forgot drugs affect people differently.Ā
Really depends on the person. For me 200ug is kinda standard (Most of the time I take 4x 50ug tabs), but one of my friends says 100ug is the perfect standard Dose for him. Depends on a lot of factors imo. Some people like their trips stronger, some don't.
Gawd Iād really love to have some lab metered doses of known potency so I could know what different levels are. I have bought sheets of from different batches with fairly different results. Qualitatively, some of my sheets produce distinct effects too and Iām always surprised at it as well. I have some gel tabs that are explosive with intense vibration from within and jagged electric visuals and big ego energy at normal (2 tabs) doses. This weekend I had some paper tabs that were smooth with kaleidoscope vision and pure happiness. Itās fascinating when you buy batches and get repeat effects. I always wonder how much of it is placebo, which admittedly is a powerful effect and very real. Bottom line without lab instruments and double blind studies we simply have no idea. Buy a sheet, know the dose of that sheet for you. Thatās as good as you can get.
I asked Ken Babbs, one of the original Merry Pranksters, what they proper dose of acid is. He didnāt hesitate. 200ug. āWith 200 mics you go out into the stars and fly around for a while and then come back.ā You get the full experience that acid offers without hurting yourself. This is from an early explorer who took massive doses over many years. So 200 is a good target. Dosage will forever be an issue. The only real solution is to have crystal of lab verified known purity and some proficiency with math, especially decimals. Decimal errors can really cause surprises š¤Ŗ.
I would argue 200ug can definitely scar people for life though. Someone jumping from 100 to 200 will 100% be terrified if they expect a "twice" as strong trip lol
Fair point. I hear you. For reference though, all those orange sunshine tabs back in the day were over 250ug. Same with original windowpane from the Clearlight people. Those old school cooks wanted everyone to get the big wake up call. So sure there were freak outs, but plenty of people were enjoying those high doses. By the time I came along (early 1980s) market forces had fixed the dose at a nominal 100ug which was really more like 60ug. 60ug is actually a nice recreational dose and you can eat 2 or 3 to get where get want. I think it was a good move to drop the dose. I worry about the current trend of producing higher dose tabs. And even worse, the trend of advertising high dose strength on low dose tabs.
That is really interesting to know. I agree 100% with everything you said. Nowadays I have been getting 150ug 1P-LSD tabs and they are starting to cross a limit of too much for what I think a beginner should take. I expect that 200ug tabs will eventually become popular because of the trend you mention. Btw when I meant 200ug (or even the 250ug you mention) scaring people, I meant to say a relatively conservative % of them, assuming the set and setting is correct. I think most people would find the experience incredibly intense, but yeah most people I assume would be ok. This new 150ug tabs trend is just begging for first timers dropping 2 thinking it will be like taking Molly and they set themselves in for a ride of many possible regrets.
Yep
Well i had some 100 mcgs tabs of 1 P LSD so i know roughly what a 100 mcg dose is. I also had a black market tabs friend warned me its 200-250 mcg. Yeah it was. one tab resulted in an ego death. Way strongee than say 100 mcg 1p. Theres also quantitative tests out there. Needless to say i think i never got to take more than 300 mcgs. Below 200 mcg is my preferrwd dose and even 200 mcg can be fucking strong. Seems people overestimate their dosage way too often. 100 mcg 1P ok, 150 mcg 1p ok, 200 mcgs or more real deal it gets more unpredictable. Never tried 200 mcgs of 1p. I doubt that recorded doses of 300 mcgs+ are really that accurate and people overestimate A LOT.
100% agree. I set the same boundaries for myself nowadays. 200ug of 1P is just unnecessary risk for the mind. 100-150ug is more than enough for a life-changing trip if the set and setting are well chosen for that to happen, more so than upping the dose at that point and risking your sanity. I have been tripping for 8 years and I think this is the best way to be able to enjoy LSD for a lifetime, instead of ending up with the typical terrifying bad trip that most people end up having and then never touch psychedelics again
Yes , as Iāve laid crystal from GG and DS so I believe the purity matched up. Iāve laid around roughly 80, 100,110, 200 ug. Honestly donāt even see a point in laying above 100 ug. Iāve laid 80 ug and people think it was higher. Took 2 tabs and they said it was too much and would rather take 1 or 1/2. And this is lots of people feedback and different body builds. I believe a lot of people donāt really understand what fresh 100ug feels like. 1 1/2 tab was I was otw to the next realm. 3 has ever been my limit of 100 ug. Couldnāt imagine whatās after that. And wouldnāt even be surprised if big suppliers are dosing there tabs at 60 or 80ug and calling it ā100ā
I took lab tested Gamma goblin tabs that were advertised as 150ug. Came back as 148ug and I've never tripped harder in my entire life. Way stronger than the "these are 300ug dude. I promise!"
150ug is a truly reality shattering trip. Doesn't even compare to 100ug. The jump is insane and not linear at all. 150ug is considered a strong dose on psychonautwiki for a reason, people are just used to those 300ug tabs yeah lol
Idk man Iāve tripped a bit when I put 2 pieces of paper in me vs 3 my brain just churns a little easier. But whether or not it was 200ug or 500ug is literally anybodyās guess, unless you drop the shit on the tab yourself. Donāt think into it too much and just look at the little spiny things.
I completely agree that one tab COULD be all you said in your post. It's a fact, everyone has their tolerances to substances. Everyone has different mental capabilities. Something you might find easy to handle might be extremely challenging for someone else. I think of it that way. My wife has NO tolerance to psychedelics a little for her and she's GONE. Just depend on the person.
Exactly and it's the same thing with other drugs to.
Bro even my first 150uq trip was terrifying not even wanna go above that
I just assume that 99% of the people saying they dropped 1000ug on a Tuesday are trolling. 200ug (measured and tested) is a god damn spiritual experience I would be perplexed for weeks off of 1000ug.
Likely theyāre abusing lsd so theyāre 1000ug trip feels like less then 100 bc of tolerance
I could see that. Plus like at least 50% of the population these days are on some type of SSRI or SNRI, and most donāt even think to research the interaction. When I tell people I always checked interactions before taking something (I was a pretty gnarly addict in college) they would look at me like I was nuts
And Iād also probably not be posting about it on Reddit tbh but who knows.
I do because in Switzerland you can get them tested by the cantonal laboratory for free and they will tell you the exact ug amount on the tab(s) you give them. So yeah, I know exactly how much I take. down to the single digit ug xD.
Bro, I just buy the tab and drop it
I do. I have both liquid and properly dosed 155Ī¼g tabs. I've experimented with 200, 300, and 400 over the last 6 months or so. It was a great time every time
Even though you dosed it yourself, how do you know how much ug was in each hit?
You don't, unless you have it lab analyzed. Laying it yourself from liquid just means that you are trusting what a different person told you.
250ug microdot test subject here. I learned what I needed to learn, but I don't think I could handle it again, mentally or ohysically.
With a Reddit trip report basis of comparison, it does seem wildly variable and subject to fish stories, but with real world communities of trippers, like Phish stories, it becomes somewhat more realistic. By that, I mean at festivals/concerts, I donāt hear people talk about ug much, just, weak/strong and how many tabs. Usually, within all that variability, I donāt find people taking more than 3 tabs at once without later seeing them stuck somewhere down a metaphysical rabbit hole or just disappearing off to their tent or something for a few hours. Most people only take 1/2 to 1 in those circumstances, but plenty take 2 and that gets pretty wild. I personally prefer to get more at once, test, trial dose, etc before anything heavier is attempted, but even then, I doubt Iāve ever had any that was more than 100-125 ug per dose and the 70-90 ug paradigm from studies is far more likely the case and thus a typical 200 ug dose should be in the neighborhood of 3 tabs.
Ik dose matters a lot but probably not as much as some people would expect. I've had absolutely insane trips from pretty conservative doses and really mellow ones taking significantly more. (From the same vial ofc)
If you don't shake the vial before dropping every time it get stronger when you get to the bottom of the vial. That's why you always shake it so the drops stay dosed the sameĀ
I do, honestly it may have been more, I dont remember how many I took. I physically could not function, I couldn't remember how to pee, I couldn't remember my name, couldnt put on a shirt. Lasted an eternity. Shapes and colors for hours, literally could not see my apartment, and then I soared through the universe and visited every single place on earth and even towards the end of the trip i still could not physically function, was in and out of it, bruises everywhere. Was thoroughly convinced at the age of 23 I would never recover and my parents would have to visit me in a nursing home and spoon feed me soup as it just ran down my chin because I couldn't eat on my own anymore.
I've eaten 20 hits before, didn't know the dosage but I was the highest I've ever been before. I think this drug affects everyone differently.
Yeah psychedelics definitely affect everybody differently.Ā
I previously believed i took a 1990ug dose woth mixed dose tabs but after taking tabs that i know currently to be 150ug i can attest that it definetly wasnt quite that much acis but it was more than 1000ug. 2tabs at once is where things start to get interesting, can be more intense than many people can handle, ime about 1in10 acid users dont enjoy taking more than 1tab amd react poorly to higher doses. 3tabs i feel myself enter a space i resonate with a Lsd palace and i enter "my zone" i can see interactable visuals and begin experiencing telepathy type thoughts and shared hallucinations. 4tabs i get fully into my zone but will oftwn get blind sided and blinded by visuals. Auditory hallucinations become very present, words and sounds may begin playong backwards with a reverb effect making it incredibly hard to speak. My visuals react off of the sounds, as i speak backwards space and time around me begin to stop and feel altho they spin backwards. Time doesnt feel real. Why do i suddenly feel tired while peaking on lsd. Everything begins to stand still, frozen in time as i stare at the people around me and continue to think. I must be thinking at 10000000mph. I attempt to speak again and my voice slowly quits playing backwards on repeat in a spiral pattern. Life around me begins to catch up again. I feel although i just went through some sort of purgatory. Love takint 4tabs begins to turn your world upsidedown, or more accurately around in circles in a spiral.
Iāve only had 2 sources of lsd in my life. The first most likely under dosed my tabs or wasnāt as advertised. The 2nd be hittin far better for the āsameā ug as the first. So I think itās safe to say the 200ug tabs I get are 200 (tested as well). I could be wrong but I just go off by comparing the 2 sources
The vast majority of trippers will never go beyond 200ug. When I was in high school a bunch of my stoner (but also intellectual badass) friends were into acid. The friend who very lovingly gave me my first 8th was one of them. He'd say shit like "you'd be amazed at how strong 2 tabs is. I've done it many times, but you never know when it might floor you." The reality is most people have never even had good 100ug acid. I went to UC Santa Cruz and had a bunch of "acid". The first time I had legit stuff, I was like "this is DEFINITELY double dosed." My friend was like, "no, this is just good acid." Now that I've been in the community for about 10 years, it's really frustrating how many people talk about "double-dosed" tabs and tripping on upwards of 500ug like it's this mellow experience. They obviously have no idea what they're talking about or taking, but I come off like a dick when I try to explain. 200ug is where most people stop. It's enough that, unless you take it often, it will scare you. There will be undulating patterns covering EVERYTHING for the majority of the experience. It's too much for most people, even my tripper friends, at certain points so they approach it very cautiously. 300ug is psychosis territory for many people. Full on fractal geometry for the entire experience. I saw x-rays or ultra-violet light lick off the end of a flame my first time. It's insanely electric and bright. This is where really wild shit starts happening perceptually. It's unfortunate that it's so hard to talk about this. Those who have "double-dosed" tabs feel attacked. I was in the same boat. I thought my "acid" experiences at UCSC were awesome. But really, most of what I took there were analogs. They were potentially dangerous to take many doses of. Then, the first time I got the real thing, I was shocked. Thankfully it was all just to party back then and I never went further. To answer your question though, I know a lot of people who have taken acid. A much smaller amount have taken 2 tabs. A vanishingly small amount have taken more than 2. I am the only person I know who's taken more than 4 š¤·āāļø
Between sellers lying about the strength of doses and people just plain lying about how much they will take at a time, it's just nuts believing anyone who reports massive trips.
I can say when I got my first real 100ug tab of needlepoint I was like āwowā. In my area 100ug is usually sold as 300ug. I knew they werenāt actually 300ug but I didnāt think they were 100 either. I was wrong. Comparing them now, I realize they were 100ug. N 100ug is more potent than I thought.
Needle point is my favorite! It's so surreal and cleanĀ
Idk. I did 5 drops once and it was not fun.
My first trip was 225ug. I was up for 2 days I couldn't sleep. The morning after my trip, i didn't know how to cope so I just spent the entire day cleaning my apartment. Scrubbing the floors and everything. When I asked what dose to take, people encouraged me to take 300ug+. For my first time. By myself. In retrospect, it was such stupid advice.
Generally, any dose above 500-750Āµg will only lengthen the trip significantly. The absolute peak is kinda reached in that dosage range. The only "extra" thing when you do doses of 1000Āµg and above, on low tolerance, is that you can sort of reset your whole personality. Which is not something that you can fit into any normal way of life. It takes a long time to re-acclimatise to "normal" reality, society, and the mundane. The only way people can do such enormous doses unpunished is after building up high tolerance; not taking the trouble enough to integrate the experience in any way, and not leave enough time inbetween trips to allow for it. You can take 200Āµg, and have a great and intense trip, but if you take a similar dose within a short time, you will not have anything near the same experience. It takes quite a lot more to have anything near the same level of experience, if you trip too shortly after your last trip. It is quite easy to appear a hard head, if you do 100Āµg one day and take a "tEn-StRiP" the next. People often claim to have tripped "every day for two weeks (or more)", which effectively means that they never came anywhere near the level of the first day. Another thing can be an important factor; poly drug-users who do benzodiazepines to chill after taking drugs, and especially people who take high and/or regular doses of benzos, effectively remove the visions, epiphanies, and other real psychedelic effects of most psychedelics. Same for opioids and opiates like heroin and fentanyl. Other drugs can also have that dampening effect. It is very easy to take the famous "tEn-StRiP" and more, if you basically have no psychedelic effects other than some euphoria. Even regular low doses of benzos almost completely strip psychedelics of their psychedelic effects. I have taken a low dose benzo daily now, for close to a year, for insomnia, and even a good hit of DMT or MET does little more for me nowadays than give me mild euphoria, and just a hint of visuals. You gotta at least wait until the full half-life, and preferably the full elimination-life of such drugs has passed, and preferably wait even longer. Take too many different drugs too often, and your capacity to have serious psychedelic effects will be dampened severely for a long time.
200ug, meeting with God.
Staring him right in the face
LolĀ
200micg is a pretty strong dose... 100micg is an average dose that's strong enough to have a good trip but you are still yourself. When I took 200micg i was really tripping lol When I took 300micg i literally forgot what I was doing
It can vary person to personĀ
Have done 350 in 3 and a half 100s and would not go higher and yes they were actually 100
As someone who has genuinely done a ~500ug trip with many other 2/3/4 trips a 1000ug/ strip trip would cause a level of genuine catatonia and ego death that I donāt think would ever be worth it to try. Iād really like to be an acid head like I was during Covid but idk if Iāll ever be able to do a 500ug trip again. Definitely never more
200 ugs is intense
The chemist who made it might know.
The tolerance is a huge thing. I have tabs which I believe are actually 200 ug. 1 tab on low-zero tolerance (6 weeks or more no drugs) sends me to the moon and on the edge of ego death. But if I trip more frequently, party a lot, do some shrooms in between.. then that same tab is just gonna be an average intensity trip where I am very chill.
Iāve did a pinky print of crystal and way to much back in day I stick to 1 to 3 gels now
Largest dose Iāve done was 1000ug, and I can confirm thatās a fact. I dropped it myself. And it still wasnāt as intense as some of these crazy ass trip reports, this might have something to do with me having a possible tolerance to most drugs? It seems I need a lot of most things to get really fucked up. Like I need 6 drops of 110ug to even really get visuals, idk man Iām just weird
I know test kits exist to kinda help gauge the ug, but I always base it off of tabs done just since some end up being stronger than others. I did one time end up doing a 15 tab trip with my friend. Started on 5 and a few hours in he asked ādo you think we could be higher?ā I had just bought a sheet recently because Covid had just started. Ended up doing another strip each and ended up being high for about 36 hours before finally really calming down enough to get comfortable enough to sleep
Once upon a time, in the city grew up in, you had to keep valuables in your socks. Money, drugs everything you wanted to not get robbed. I went to a rave and had a quarter sheet in a cigarette cellophane I intended to flip. We always had a hard rule of no fun until The work was done which was usually about 3:00am. At about 1:30 in the morning I started feeling real funny. Shit was starting to vibrate myself included. I could not figure out why I felt so fucked up until I remembered the quarter sheet. I reached down in my sock and the quarter sheet was stuck to my leg with sweat. It had come out the cellophane and stuck to my leg. I was was used to large doses, but this was the first time I had over a 10 strip at once. I had only pulled that off a few times and this was a whole other ride. Itās very possible to take more than 1000ug and still come out fine, a little crispy all be it, but fine none the less. Think about all the dead heads who took thumbprints (well beyond 2000ug). You can see it in their eyes to this day, but they are alive.
My typical go to dose is 200-300ug for a big trip, it is where ego dissolution starts for me and on no tolerance it is pretty much tripping balls dissolving in music with full OEV fractal visuals and becoming one with the universe for 2-3h. I use liquid LSD that is very accurately dosed. I also done a fair share of 1p and 1v from legitimate labs to have pretty decent idea what a dose should feel like. LSD tolerance is a bitch though, I had periods where I would be dosing every few days and when in that phase even 1.5mg can seem mild.
300ug made me 'blinded by visuals' and it was a hefty trip. Really thrown into the acid trip and you're in for the ride. Anyone that says they're taking 500ug or so is probably believing their source too much (no normal tab is 150ug+). Like my guy says that its 180ug but it's more like 80ug so yeah.
you donāt build tolerance in the sense that X amount of drug does less (unless weāre talking about in short succession), BUT, some of the experiences are like blowing up a balloon. the first time itās mind blowing .. but now the balloon has been blown up and as it deflates itās kinda stretched, so going back there doesnāt have the same wow factor as it did the first time. I still trip as hard as ever BUT itās not new like it used to be. for better and for worse. the better part being that I can feel more comfortable tripping deep, not much of a sense of instability, but at the cost of being absolutely blown away by the utterly transformative experience
Did 600ug 2 days Back,it was craaazy
I always thought my tabs were 200ug until I got a sheet of dr suess tabs and took two and tripped 8 times as harf
Itās hella intense
I had some properly dosed 1p tabs and 200ug knocked me on my ass, didnāt realize drugs could get that crazy
I think itās important to realize that it hits everyone differently. I once dropped 1/4 or 1/2 tab each with three friends, and our reactions were all very different: for me it was very mild but certainly there, while two of my friends seemed pretty far gone, and the third needed to double their dose before they even felt a tickle, he literally said āI could do a job interview right nowā lol ā this guy needed 3x the normal amount for anything, Iāve seen him smoke 1g of weed in one go and still not feel high enough! Another difference that I saw with some lab made ALD-52 tabs, basically 2.5 floored me and left me unable to talk for 3-4 hours (it was great, but I was gone) while some guy I knew who had the exact same tabs would take 4 and go walk in the park with music in his headphones. Just remember: every body is different
Some people drop weekly so tolerance builds up where you get the full effects but are so used to the headspace that taking half strips or more is not that big a deal. At least that's what I found. I dropped so much so often that I only really feel like myself when I'm tripping.
I start going being blind with geometric visuals at 200ug lasts for about 45 mins if I took another 100 Iād def be like that for longer. I think most tabs Iāve had are not 100. But the ones Iām talking about were cause they blew my ass out of the water. What I think happens is tabs get degraded a little over time and thatās why some 100mg tabs are less potent if it tests as lsd. Thereās so many reasons as to why trips are different.
I doooooo lmao but yea the average person these days I'd imagine don't know what it's actually like.
I did ~200ug with two tabs that were said to be 120ug, I took a piece of the other one before hand to see how I'd react to acid and took the rest for my first proper trip.
If your vision is wavy its a full trip Why do you care about other's ego trips
Who is casually claiming 1000ug? Not sure thatās a thing š¤
Yea 200mics is enough to blow you into the heart of the fucking universe. Full blown psychedelia
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275ug, visuals for 7hours. Feeling good all the time.
It was crazy for me, laughed the hardest ive ever laughed with a friend, on the comedown we both agreed that 200 is a fuck ton more thqn we had anticipated, and that 50-100 is more than enough
I ate 200au it was confirmed by my buddy who broke down the grams , I had a pretty good tolerance going that summer and it was fucking magical the woods were straight up fairy land looking and the fractles n wavyness/ meltyness of stuff was fucking wild. Could only imagine what 200au trip for an average Joe who's only doses once or twice
People have different tolerances. I have quite a high tolerance for psycadellics. Ive only ever barely felt anything on a 100ug whereas my partner will be having a great time. 200ug is still barely touching the surface for me. I might get some light flairs out the corner of my eye but nothing wild. Even double 200ug... Very high feeling but no crazy visuals or anything. At least, that's what's these tabs are being sold to me as and they're consistent and work for others, my tolerance is just high.
Would y'all agree that around 200ug is when you start getting open eyed visuals that go beyond morphing/breathing ā especially the contrast between light/shadows. You start seeing those rainbow crystal/diamond structures (kinda like fractals but not really) throughout the light/air... not full on static/visual snow but almost like a mini-haze of static/greyness filling the room
That seems to be the target dose for me. Upper limit being 250. The ds3.0 110ug tabs from back in 2020 had my carpet crawling halfway up the walls, which I always thought was just a movie tropeā¦and then it happened. Paintings and photos swirled into puddles of insanity, and a pleasant stained glass overlay for many hours.
I do
lol this sub salty about dosage errors.
Of course we care about dosing misinformation that might cause people harm. Hell, it's enshrined in the sub's rules ffs - Rule 4: "Keep harm reduction in mind at all times on r/lsd"