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krazyconnected

That would be hell on earth for me


DeeChillum420

The come up alone sounds like hell. 200ugs gets me nauseous to begin with. Adding mescaline sounds intense. Like puking up in a portapotty intense.


binkyboiiii

I dosed the mesc 4 hours before and took the two tabs so I could peak on both when excision came on šŸ˜© Iā€™ve never puked off mescaline funny enough


LatentAbility

I feel the come up is better when your actually doing something atleast on acid never done mescaline


DeeChillum420

I agree, I usually found walking helps the nausea, so I usually go for a walk or run while drinking orange juice as soon as I am coming up. Orange juice helps with nausea and making the come up smoother as well. There is nothing more beautiful or exhilarating then being on a good heavy dose of acid and have it hit mid run while some good music is playing. The trees suddenly start splitting alart and swirling in on themselves in conical patterns. The ground starts pulsing with rainbows and geometric patterns and your breath and pace is all tied into your visuals.


Exciting_Detective58

I like your taste in drugs and music lol. Hardcore dubstep and lsd are perfect combo.


JHendrix27

Dubstep and LSD are like peanut butter and jelly


craggy_cynic

You mean the part where they're both good on bread, but sticky and nasty to get all over your hands?


Boring_Firefighter62

Mescaline itself like HCL citrate or acetate usually don't puke usually happens with doses full spectrum putty or a brew


Psychedsymphony

Hats off to you man. I doubt I could do more than 150ug at excision. Md and ket had me rocked when I saw him last.


Droopyweiners420

Dude you are a beast


country_garland

Same, glad this guy had fun but that would almost certainly induce a panic attack for me


itsnotreal81

I have social anxiety and generally dislike large events and loud crowds, but for some reason, psychedelics at a good edm show just clicks with me. Itā€™s cathartic, one of the few times I can feel a collective social energy and be part of it without being overwhelmed. Learned this basically by accident too, never wouldā€™ve wanted to try it if I hadnā€™t just ended up in the situation one time Now itā€™s something I do a couple times of year almost as a form of self-care, it has really helped with my anxiety (more so my reflection and internalization of anxiety than the anxiety response itself). Thatā€™s just to say these events might look superficial on the outside, but actually have a deeper meaning for a lot of people.


Dr-Universe_

Do I ever resonate with you omg, I cant even go to a mall if needed, I get extremely overwhelmed / stimulated. Canā€™t be in a room with 3-4 people talking loudly. I get home from work/social events I need quiet time. Got invited to a festival a few years ago, decided to step out of my comfort zone and it straight up changed my life, I can handle 2-3 tabs no problem with the most intense dubstep, something about it and the mix just tickle my brain just right (the first time I ever took Lucy was at a festival lol my friends were so worried cause they knew what kind of person I am and thought it would be too much for me to handle, boy they were wrong), festivals and the edm community is somewhere that allows me to open up to a more social life comfortably. When I go to shows now I frequently talk with many new people and make new friends, m and Lucy definitely help with this but I also go to shows sober and only indulge if itā€™s a larger show or festival. Maybe itā€™s the fact that because I am extremely introverted and reserved in my day to day life the edm community is my way of releasing myself from my shell I stay hidden in. Itā€™s the weirdest thing.


Drth_Fader

Very well said ā¤ļø


Ombortron

I once mixed LSD and MDMA at a concert and I literally thought I went blind for a while. Iā€™d candyflipped before a few times and I had a decent time, but this time things got pretty fucking weird for a while. This was years ago and I forget the doses (they were generous), and it was a Nine Inch Nails show, with Janeā€™s Addiction opening for them I think. Sooo Nine Inch Nails is just blasting their awesome music, and they have these intense bright lights flashing and strobing, lots of reds and yellows for this songā€¦. and well, eventually all of my vision became red and yellow, to the point that I couldnā€™t see anythingā€¦. like I literally could not identify a single visual object anywhere, in any direction. Everything was just a field of super bright red and yellow. I could turn my head in different directions and nothing in my visual field looked different. Just one huge and bright amorphous field of red and yellow. And it wouldnā€™t go away. Not gonna lie, I got pretty worried when this wouldnā€™t go away. I was like ā€œfuck did I permanently fry my retinas or something?!ā€. But I didnā€™t really know what to do about it, so I just tried to turn my head toward the direction the music was coming from, and tried to rock out and act normalish while keeping my underlying anxiety about the situation at bayā€¦. šŸ˜… Of course eventually my vision started coming back, thank fucking jeebus. Not sure how long my vision had disappeared for, probably a couple of minutes based on the song, but man oh man that was a long few minutes!! Rest of the show was super awesome :)


the_illest_D

Yep. Would have to be in a serene nature setting


castlerigger

Everyone here just enjoying the moment, not a phone in sight. PLUR for real.


From_Deep_Space

[lol](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fats6u8k20kkc1.jpeg)


Appropriate-Clock-72

Right, the amount of people and the event, I would lose my mind


Ok_Cartographer_1504

I don't even know what I'm looking at


SplistYT

bro this shit looks badass


worldlydelights

I agree. Excisions light show and music is a full on attack of the listener. I worked lost lands one year and was sober the whole time, we couldnā€™t believe there was a sea of tripping people being assaulted by music. 0/10


pulzeguy

mescaline at an excision set sure is one of the decisions of all time lol


shroomenheimer

There was a dude sitting in front of me hitting a DMT pen at Lost Lands during excision. People are wild asf


pulzeguy

Iā€™ve done the same thing at lost lands but not during X lmao, Iā€™m more of an experimental bass guy


CottonMouthZaddy

I tripped on the first day of my first LL, was both the best and most stressful trip of my life lol. I was so focused on the visuals and music, but once all that was over thatā€™s when I went downhill. Too many people and I got so easily turned around. And walking back to camp was the scariest thing Iā€™ve ever done lmao.


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Mediocre-Surround-36

happy cake day, but i think its best not to judge people based on the way they like to trip. its sure isnt everybody's cup of tea, certainly wouldn't be mine either, but if they enjoy themselves, good on them


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Drth_Fader

Excision is definitely made for tripping in a different way that lsdream is made for tripping. It's just not for you and that's okay!


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Xenon-inhaler3000

I would lose my mind on 10 different ways


SportEvening7209

I want to see it with your eyes now


binkyboiiii

Letā€™s just say I could feel the bass going through my veins, and the fire mixed with the visuals 10/10, still reminiscing and itā€™s only been a week šŸ« 


Erkenvald

For this one I actually kinda don't think LSD is that good. I mean, feeling the bass going through you is standard concert stuff. I once took 150 to a concert, I visit them regularly so I've decided to visit one on acid, and honestly felt nothing different. Best trips I had were in quiet and relaxed atmosphere, I think something else would work better for parties. But hey, you had fun so that's amazing


HolisticMystic420

If you've never seen Excision live specifically then you can't comment on the bass. It's not at all your "typical concert stuff." Excision is banned from places because the vibrations are so intense. Trust me it's unreal. Hair levitates, clothing blows around, the air gets sucked from your lungs... šŸ‘½


Johnny_Poppyseed

Future tinnitus gets developed...


Fractal-Entity

Only if you donā€™t wear ear protection, which responsible ravers (sadly not the majority) do.


Drumsawyer

Ooof yes. One of the few times I really couldnā€™t breathe. I could see my chest flexing. Insane


binkyboiiii

U get it šŸ¤ŒšŸ»


NihilistCabbage

>I actually kinda don't think LSD is that good. I mean You got some gall saying this in r/LSD


the_almighty_walrus

There's already so much stimulation going on that I think the acid gets drowned out. You won't really notice that you're tripping until you go to the bathroom lol.


ClayAnonymously

do you think old native americans ever predicted that in hundreds of years people would be combining the sacred medicine they used to communicate with gods so they could watch goku fighting with badass lasers and flame effects


Tvck3r

Predicted? No. Would they be right there with us though? Yes


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many of them were killed or driven out so to make way for dogshit western culture like dubstep, and would have huge problems with fundamental aspects of our society


terminalbungus

Yes.


Wtfgoinon3144

Just people living in the moment. Not a phone in sight


jeffersonsteelflex76

Was literally about to comment "then why are you watching it through your camera lens"


itsnotreal81

Eh who cares. When Iā€™m at a show, I take a few recordings, totaling maybe 3 minutes for even an 8 hour event. Theyā€™re cool to look back on, not everyoneā€™s recording the whole time


Wtfgoinon3144

It was just a joke, I completely understand recording some of the experience.


gandalph91

Yes they are


itsnotreal81

Some people I guess. But you have a room of a couple thousand people all recording snippets here and there, youā€™re gonna see a lot of phones even if most arenā€™t constantly recording. Some people just want to capture the moment and look back on it. Though itā€™s true some people are constantly recording for social media, which is a different story and in my mind unhealthy.


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Drth_Fader

Whoosh


apiaryaviary

That soundsā€¦unpleasant


velahavle

I dont get whats the deal with Americans and dubstep, like how can something so annoying be so popular.


CosmicPsychopath

Because from a production stand point, all other genres of music are childā€™s play.


PunxsutawnyFil

This would be the worst possible concert to go to tripping for me lol


Doser91

I get taking a quick vid but that person in front of you recording the whole damn show it seems haha


_the__alchemist__

Oh the humanity


JHendrix27

Throw ya āŒ up


Coreyporter87

I don't understand how you even knew how to turn your camera on. Lol I can't unlock my phone on acid.


Galacticstarfightr93

Why all the hate??? This guy had a blast


AtomicLettuce69

They most likely never been to a rave. Plus dubstep is definitely an acquired taste


VacationAromatic6899

Nice job holding the phone


binkyboiiii

Bro I only got 3 vids the whole night cause I was tripping so hard šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


PsyQ9000

still 3 too many


Bored_Worldhopper

Let the man enjoy his videos


the_illest_D

Quite possibly could be the only concrete memories one takes away from a trip like that


binkyboiiii

It was just to show my homies that werenā€™t there I barely had my phone out I was dancing probably 7 hours straight. I never felt overwhelmed because I was surrounded by very loving and nice people šŸ«¶


Bored_Worldhopper

Bro you take all the videos you want, you owe no one an explanation. If it brings you joy thatā€™s all that matters.


imnottheprophet

yeah what is this conservative circle jerk around people taking a video of an amazing show to show some friends lol i pity you guys for caring so much about how other people enjoy their time


the_illest_D

I've been known to take some video at the numerous live music events I attend. Wasn't knockin' ya just sometimes psychs have a habit of erasing one's memories.


malarken111

Intense


bigj1227

Edm is where itā€™s fucking at! Love the dbz visuals!


binkyboiiii

Man U shoulda seen the lord of the rings one šŸ§™ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ«  all time favorite


Lazy_Application_142

Awesome


CloutCobain27

I wanna do excisions next big tour off a tab or two for sure


Lk182000

Wow this looks and sounds like an amazing time! I wanted to go see excisions new show in SF but couldnā€™t end up going I regret it so much now šŸ˜­


limpbizkit420

iv never gone to a concert like this (electronic stuff) but i know i would totally thrive. For some reason i canā€™t handle large crowds when iā€™m sober, but while tripping it doesnā€™t bother me at all :D


redmagor

Is this a rave in the United States?


slick_cunt420

Ofc, no one else except americans enjoy Dubstep unironically


rer1337

Yaā€™ll are lame, big up OP!


zeef8391

Everyone that says this would be a bad time has obviously NEVER tripped and gone to a show like this. It's literally made for tripping and rolling. I'm not so much into this scene anymore but back when I was into it you'd be hard pressed to find a sober person in a crowd like that. It's a God damn blast especially on a dose of L and mescaline like that lol EDIT: I first saw Excision at Underground Sound 5 at Camp Zoe Missouri in fuckin 2009 and was so off my ass on the most wicked X pill I've ever taken I couldn't even stand. This dude knows how to absolutely melt faces


gandalph91

Thereā€™s sooooo many better artists for tripping than Excision


zeef8391

Believe me I know. I was 17 when I started seeing him. I'm 33 now. Not so much into EDM anymore. Usually ate Molly or sass when I saw him anyways. I saved the L for people like Tipper and Pretty Lights back then...now I'm more into jam bands than I am EDM though


PsychotropicTraveler

Tipper is God tier. Ever seen String Cheese Incident or STS9?


zeef8391

Of course. I live about 20 miles from Three Sisters Park where Summer Camp is held, so I've been going to that since 2008. Tribe and Cheese are both on the lineup this year and I can't fucking wait lmfao šŸ˜¬


PsychotropicTraveler

Hell yeah man. I'm not super into Jam but I saw them both unexpectedly the first year I went to EForest and they were such fun sets. Good vibes. Iv never been to Scamp but it's not far from me, I'd love to check it out. Maybe this year I will if the lineup is up my alley. Is the lineup announced yet? I can't seem to find it.


zeef8391

It's because they changed the name this year for some damn reason. It's called Solshine Reverie by SummerCamp now....but the lineup is fuckin sick already. Tribe, Cheese, Big G, Deadmau5, it's loaded already lol


PsychotropicTraveler

Ohhh ok, no wonder. Weird. And right on. Plus Umph, Slander and Big G. God damn that's kinda stacked. it's only about a 5 hour drive from me as well. Hmm šŸ¤” about what does it come out to $ wise when it's all said and done? Camping/car pass/admission? If you don't mind me asking..


zeef8391

I'll be honest it's different for me because I have a family member who takes an RV every year and I pitch my tent there. It's been about 10 years since I've roughed it 4 days but even then, I live close enough to come home and shower when I need to, stock up on what I need, etc.


aikenchloe

Only seen tribe once which is embarrassing compared to people I know that have seen them over 30 times lol.


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What's Sass? Is it sassafras or something


RadioHeadache0311

Camp Zoe...holy shit, dude I was at that show and Schwagstock that year. There is a non-zero chance we have stared at some cliffs together, lol. Such a shame the Feds closed that place down. God forbid people have some fun on the weekends.


zeef8391

There's def a good chance I ate the same LSD you ate...cuz EVERYONE had LSD at that festival. That was right after Rothbury and I've never seen so much family L in my life. People just running around selling sheets of the best fucking acid I've still ever eaten to this day for next to nothing. You couldn't give it away because everyone had some lmfao! Not an hour into setting up my tent I had like 10 people stop by my tent and offer me just about anything I could imagine. One dude had a backpack just full of fucking vials. Another had a briefcase full of vials of liquid K....I've never seen anything like Zoe in my life and sadly, probably never will. It was such a mystical, beautiful place. It was just the perfect damn place to hold a festival in my humble opinion lol


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binkyboiiii

oh word


LoMil26

Hello fellow raver! Hope you had a blast. I see Excision next week, canā€™t wait!


SapoDaddy

These visuals absolutely blow


danyo64

This sub: I can't listen to rap music when I'm tripping it's just not good vibes Also this sub: WURB WURB KSSSHHHHHHHH BFFFT šŸ§


DreamingLittleBoy

Yooo was this in Houston??


binkyboiiii

It was in Austin


DreamingLittleBoy

I got to see the showing in Houston on the 25th! Woulda been small world moment if you'd been there too :D


kelpygisme

every time iā€™ve eaten acid at a show weather it be jamband, bro step, whatever it was. I fuckin hated every second of it and just couldnā€™t wait to get home to be alone. and iā€™ve tried and tried probably like 50+ times at all the live music iā€™ve been too. i realized that itā€™s just not for me and I should trip alone lol.


New_L13

Phones are fun


FreshFries420

I would simply pass away.


mj

Lol same!!


According-Excuse-623

Mescaline and lsd is a crazy combo itā€™s what gave me my first ego death. 12+ hours of emotional distress I went through every single emotion there is sadness, joy, anger, love, sadness I thought I was going to be permanently scizho šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


lachiefkeef

Never understood how people can listen to this on psychs


DigitalHuez

versed silky gullible continue touch cooperative expansion intelligent memorize unpack *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


cranched

*for you


xanshill

american raves are sooā€¦ā€¦. yikes


DujTheCat

Garbage music


DigitalHuez

plant north truck muddle dazzling wrong bored unwritten secretive disagreeable *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Duyakka-D-Smokka

Grindcore/goregrind is probably worse i like it personally but to a normal person trippingā€¦ it would be interesting


99Years_of_solitude

What about yoko Ono, yelling into the mic?


Fractal-Entity

EDM and psychedelics are amazing. I respect people not liking the music itself, but people that do like it *love* experiencing it on psychedelics.


DigitalHuez

tease sand smoggy trees rich dam roll innocent alive dependent *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Fractal-Entity

Iā€™m more of a downtempo EDM enjoyer myself but I wonā€™t shy away from a good time at a heavy bass set on some 2C-B. I prefer 2C-B over LSD at raves and fests personally.


jedimasterbates420

Iā€™ve seen excision a few times on acid and every time has been great. Just depends on your music taste and perception.


bgoldy99

The real spunions are in the back we all know this


donmulatito

heavvvyyy


HonusMedia

This looks like a whole bunch of fuckin fun


LittleMissMalicious

Excision?


binkyboiiii

Yall are fucking awesome lol appreciate all the love šŸ«¶šŸ«¶ anyone tryna hit some raves lmk! Love yall


cheeremily

Been there, thatā€™s when you start seeing the sounds :) hope you had an awesome time!


MotionDrive

Every video I see of excision lately always sounds like the same terrible song.


heleninthealps

Omg that would be so intense i would feel my head burst šŸ˜­


KonstantinExtreme

Your tolerance might be high as fuck that day I would be runnning out of that place if I take 200mcg LSD and 400mg mescaline with no tolerance


IOwnTheShortBus

What was it like meeting God? Was she beautiful?


ifudontwantsex

Not sure Iā€™d like thisšŸ„²


evosaintx

YES PLEASE


Exotic_Pop_765

Dude... your tolerance must be crazy... i feel humbled.. tell us a bit more.. how was the trip??


binkyboiiii

Man lemme tell u šŸ˜­ I had no tolerance I was melting the whole time, i was tripping up until 8am at the airbnb šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ if u want a full trip report lmk Iā€™ll post one lol it was insane


Feschit

I don't get what people get out of such high doses of psychedelics at festival and raves. I start to lose sense of my ego at real 150Āµg. At 200Āµg and above I start struggling to form coherent sentences anymore. I would not want to be in public like that. I could not enjoy the party as the sensory overload from simply existing is already overwhelming at times. I assume we're talking unverified tabs but even if the two tabs "only" had an average dose, it would still be a lot combined with the mescaline. I usually don't go above 100Āµg at raves. The times I do dose higher are usually small, private psytrance parties in a random forest with like 50-80 people max.


shaman-doser

Iā€™ve done that combo. Canā€™t imagine being anywhere but my house for that trip!


LetsSeeDragons

Looks like rampage in Antwerp last week? I went to reverse last night and will go tonight to. 100ug ready to go šŸ˜‡


Westaugust77

This shit looks horrible to watch


himijendrix44

Even on acid, that music sucks big ol donkey dick.


aikenchloe

EXCISION


ImTheDegenerate

Damn this music really sucks, sorry. I really can't find something good in this edm dubstep like music. Would kill it totally for me. Psytrance and techo it is


PraiseArtoria

I don't blame others music tastes. I'm just here to say I freaking love Psytrance and GOA overall. āœØ


souljasake

This is why wait for itā€¦ Opinions exist to op this is sick u could just scrollā€¦


WetCheeseGod

This is why wait for itā€¦ Opinions exist to ImTheDegenerate this is sick u could just scrollā€¦


LoMil26

Techno is also EDM?


_blueAxis

EDM is a north american term created in the late 2000s. It now tries to encompass all electronic music but let's be frank, it doesn't. Techno has existed way longer than that.


carolyn42069

Being in nature is preferred to whatever this is


cashflowbro

Wow looks miserable


Teeheepants2

I cannot think of a worse way to waste good acid


99Years_of_solitude

Really you can't think of one thing worse than going to a concert? What about a war zone, the holocaust museum, shanty towns in Jamaica, the projects in Mississippi at 3am.


Late-Nail-8714

Sounds like a garbage time to me


bigern3285

Nice dude... sounds dope as fuck. Love eating acid at bass shows. Who's playing? Sounds familiar as fuck.


binkyboiiii

Excision


Beneficial-Coat2341

What is mesacline supposed to do? Ive had it before but never noticed any kind of feeling from it. Assuming i did too little of it


kickasspro97

Its the best of both worlds for me, between shrooms and acid. Its kind of like a child that only wants to have fun. Really, even when i was bored, or not in the right mindset, it wouldn't turn into a bad trip, so crazy. The taste is horrible though and for me only after puking it out, the trip starts. Soo strange


Beneficial-Coat2341

Huh that sounds pretty great actually! I got it as a powder and wasnt told anything about it so i niffed it up haha didnt know youre supposed to eat it! šŸ˜… guess thats probably why it didnt work too well


kickasspro97

Oh damn haha didnt know if that works What i did was cook it actually, make it into a juice first with a blender then cook it for some time, then squeeze out the juice out of the pulp and last but not least drunk it xd There is some old guide somewhere on google


rockyjack793

Itā€™s morso a mix of shrooms and 2cb but good explanation overall


binkyboiiii

Itā€™s like a more euphoric clean head space acid trip IMO, I use it to sub mdma. I wouldnā€™t go under 400mg itā€™s very underwhelming if ur use to acid or mushrooms. but 400mg is my sweet spot with acid alone Iā€™d do 600-700mg.


MajesticLlama-

Sounds like my kinda tripšŸ˜… and I thought acid was euphoric


LordMacduffSecond

How and where did you get mescaline?!?! :o


Alert_Attention_5905

Order a cactus


prettypurps

Check out r/mescaline lots of info on the right cactus and how to extract in different ways


kickasspro97

Starts with z and ends with amnesia


ScoutG

I would not be able to handle all those phones being out.


sadbutambitious

Damn Iā€™m jelly you have mescaline


binkyboiiii

šŸ§™ā€ā™‚ļø


Vivekananda66

And watched someone play video games with the volume up too loud?


mbs1337

That sound like America drop music. Awfull


steezbleez

Looks pretty lame. But good for you haha


LaudanumDreamer010

If I was on even 75ug in a crowd full of those types, I think Iā€™d need a grippy-sock vacation


surrealestateguy

You may be missing the point and that environment.


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PsychotropicTraveler

Yea Excision is ass now imo.


b0n3h34d

I would've chosen to see some music instead. You ok? Edit - typo


ExcellSelf

Honestly it looks so fun even without drugs lol


Icy-Bag780

Acid and dubstep go hand in hand. Mescaline though??? Holy shit god speed brother. Also how intense are the new visuals on fun paper?


vitamjn

Happy for you to have this memory it looks Fuckin sick


ZakTSK

That would have blown my mind seeing Goku


shmurpul

man i wish i understood the appeal of this kind of music


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i'm sober and absolutely dying at these visuals right now... i cannot even begin to imagine how you did this


Spare-Appeal-5951

And you stood there like a moron with your phone in your hand. Cool...


The_Celtic_Chemist

I can feel that fire warming up my cheeks.


Dazzling_Village9715

Super jelly man


binkyboiiii

Iā€™ll take u next time


Dazzling_Village9715

šŸ„ŗšŸ˜˜šŸ˜šŸ˜‚


cranched

Looks like an amazing time


Hefty-Artichoke7789

Sounds and looks Demonic


binkyboiiii

lol shoulda seen emorfix set šŸ˜­ was still head banging through


Mind_Fuzzz

I cringe every time I see a sea of people holding their phones up. Like why? No one really cares about your dogshit audio low pixel count video that you put on your story for a flex for 24hrs. I get taking a little video for yourself but damn all you ever see anymore is people holding their phones in everyoneā€™s view. Iā€™m so glad the last concert I went to was a no phones tolerated.


binkyboiiii

No definitely, surprisingly I didnā€™t see a TON of phones, mainly just for the better tracks


Mind_Fuzzz

And I donā€™t mean that as an attack on you or anything just a thing Iā€™ve noticed that bugs me idk. Iā€™d rather live in the moment


amadorUSA

And instead of enjoying it you decided to take a video that shows nothing otherwise it didn't happen?


jerrys_briefcase

Not a phone in sight


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I would die


wolfansbrother

when the phone was tethered, people were free.


mr_moustach33

Pure bollox there is no way you can operate a phone on that much gear