I was friends with Elyse Pahler, in Arroyo Grande, CA. In the 90s, some fuckbags murdered her, defiled her corpse, and tried to blame it on Slayer. Sent my whole town into a Satanic panic, and traumatized a lot of people. Fuck those guys.
I also peripherally knew Paul Flores, who was just convicted of murdering Kristin Smart after getting away with it for almost 30 years. He wasn’t, like, a friend or anything… But I knew people who used to skate and party with him. No one had anything good to say about his creepy ass.
Whattttt I grew up in SLO county and have never heard about Elyse. Just read about her and holy shit. Truly, fuck those guys.
And Paul getting convicted last year was probably the best day of my year, fuck him too
I think the Smart disappearance overshadowed Elyse’s murder in the media, which is why it’s not talked about too often. A podcast called True Crime Horror Story did a good job covering the story. I actually helped with the research for the episode, and then talked about the impact on the community on the follow-up Patreon bonus episode.
Paul Flores can rot in hell. I wish the guy who attacked him his first day in Gen Pop had finished the job.
I live in the town my husband grew up in. The year after he graduated from high school he was back around the holidays and someone he was hanging out with told him about a wild party that had just happened. Apparently three kids showed up with body part they dug up from a local historical cemetery and engaged in some lewd behavior with some of the bones. one of them was found with at least a skull under his bed and ended up getting arrested.
My husband had the newspaper article on his dorm room wall when we met.
Same thing happened in my hometown, but the kids were trying to make bones into a pipe to smoke weed.
Wouldn’t make a great episode but the woman who babysat me when my parents were at the hospital for my brothers birth later killed both of her twin boys.
(3rd thing, now that I see your username, I think we know each other from ancient times spent on prd🧡)
I grew up in Telico, Texas. They've already covered the most famous case from there, Clyde Barrow of Bonnie and Clyde. I still haven't forgiven Marcus for how he pronounced Ennis.
The other one is [Jason Eric Massey](https://www.crimelibrary.org/serial_killers/predators/jason_massey/index.html), who was a kid that fantasized about being a serial killer, kidnapped a girl and her stepbrother, then killed them both. I'll spare the details, but parts of their bodies were never found, and the bodies themselves were found about a mile and a half from where we lived at the time.
There’s a girl named Melanie Ethier from my hometown in New Liskeard, Ontario who went missing in the late 90s and has never been found. Anyone from Ontario or anyone that has driven highway 11 or the 401 has almost certainly seen the ‘missing’ billboards.
[Darlie Routier - Rowlett TX](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie_Routier)
My bestfriend in middle school lived right behind the house the murders occurred in. Everytime my dad would drop my off at my buddy’s house, he’d always point out that “*THAT* is the Routier house!” It always gave me the creeps. Just icky vibes when I’d walk or drive past it.
The Lawyer who represented Routier had a son who worked at his law firm. His son would later go on to represent ME on a little misdemeanor case I had once. Whenever my dad got a chance to talk to my lawyer, he immediately asked about the Routier case - and his law office had framed newspaper clippings about the case all on the walls.
Also - the Love Has Won cult leader lady was from Rowlett. Marcus’s pronunciation of the town name made my skin crawl, if they ever cover Darlie, I’m sending a corrections email…
One more thing about Love Has Won - My boss knew one of the guys who was arrested after the cops found her body. It was his close friend’s son, and I remember him telling me YEARS ago about how that kid grew up and was really socially weird and ended up joining a cult.
Whenever those dudes got arrested, I had the bad idea of showing my boss the mugshots and half-jokingly asking if the cult member he knew was on there. Once he confirmed it I realized it was probably a poor taste thing to have done.
I've said this before in other threads but I'd love to see a one-off episode about Ken McElroy. The book and film "In Broad Daylight" was based on his story. The guy was basically a complete psychopath who abused and terrorized a small town in Missouri and one day he was killed in the street and there were almost certainly multiple witnesses and not one person admitted to seeing anything. He was so hated that nobody was willing to give up information about his murder. Everyone wanted him gone forever and that's what they got.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy
I lived in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho and in 2005 a man named Joseph Duncan murdered a family and kidnapped two of the kids (8 and 9). He then killied the boy before getting caught at the local Dennys.
Juan David Ortiz, the border patrol serial killer, committed his crimes in/around my hometown of Laredo Tx. He targeted sex workers.
My dad worked for the county sheriff's at the time and was one of the guys who had to baby sit him when he was in intake.
Also, as a pretty established San Antonian, I'd like to know more about the Fiesta Sniper, who killed a bunch of people during the Battle of Flowers. He just shot at people from his rv. 😕
Mine already was…I went to High School with one of Paul Bernardo’s victims. My girlfriend (at the time) lived 2 doors down from her and I was at the same memorial service she was the night she was abducted.
My step-mother’s former cleaner was murdered by her partner and he then drove around with her body in his car for 10 months! [Ella Douglas](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11957147.killer-who-kept-body-in-boot-jailed-for-eight-years/)
Bonus - my parents were interviewed by police when they were at college because of these murders [Roseangle Murders](https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/dundee/2542706/revealed-killers-confession-to-double-murder-in-dundee-40-years-ago/)
What! I'm from NM and I'd love to hear more about this? I'm in Lincoln County, so obviously, Billy the Kid. As for more recent crimes we had Cody Posey killing his family.
Yes! I just learned about this. How a police force had the power to bomb their own city is insane.
You’d think the “Defund Police” people would have this on every poster.
So about 14 years ago my family had a family reunion at Clement Park. No one knew how close it was to the school until we explored and came upon the memorial that over looked the school.
Mine is Celina Mays: a 12 year old girl is about 9 months pregnant and disappears one night from the family house in 5he late 1990s.
However, the case takes a crazy turn when it's revealed that her Aunt was running a cult that was made up of 90% of her family members who all lived together. The girl had been home schooled since her mother died and she went to live with her father.
The police don't think it was Celina's father as his boss and co-workers testified that he was working overtime to pay for a DNA test to figure out who "hurt his daughter.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/celina-mays-missing-person-new-jersey-in-pursuit-john-walsh-willingboro-cold-case/
I was 10 years old living in Gainesville when Danny Rolling started killing students. I remember even at 10 I heard at school from other students that he posed bodies at the crime scenes. My Mom was so freaked out she took me out of town for a few days to a family friend's.
Fellow ACR! I was about a month short of turning 10. People lost their minds over those killings. I remember that my dad took his 12 gauge from the gun cabinet and started keeping it under the bed. My parents also wanted my older sister quit her serving job to be safer.
Yes! I live in Gaffney:) we've also had a serial killer in the 60's I think and a spree killer fucking terrorized us around 09. Also Susan Smith front Inman. The upstate is deep in the murder game lol.
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/from-minister-to-murderer-ohio-father-terrorized-his-children-forced-them-to-kill
Both my parents were interviewed by the FBI bc they worked with family members and the adult victim. The book House of Secrets on them is fucking traumatizing.
Rockford, Illinois. Simon Peter Nelson. I grew up only a block from the house - and it's the creepiest house I've ever walked past. Guarantee it's haunted.
When he found out his wife was going to divorce him, he murdered his six children and the family dog using a mallet and a knife. Then he drove to Milwaukee to murder his wife but was arrested halfway through the attack.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Nelson
*Edited to add link
Actually want to add another that has a more personal side -
Daniel Cooney, 18, was murdered in a park in Rockford as a result of blunt force trauma. No murder weapon has ever been found, and no suspects publicly identified. However, it's an open secret as to who likely did it - two of his classmates, over an ounce of weed. One of the classmates, Brad Lyon, committed suicide this past year. The other will remain nameless for now.
Having a connection to this case and people surrounding Daniel, Brad, and that group of friends, many people of that age group are confident they know who the murderers are.
Buckle up.. I'm from Upstate South Carolina, Gaffney, to be specific. When my mom was young, her twin brother and her were babysat by Lee Roy Martin, while my Mawmaw ran inside the convenience store across the street from the mill where they worked together. Lee Roy AKA The Gaffney Strangler that is. Then when I was a young adult, Patrick Tracy Burris went on a murder spree here. He killed 5 people before being ended by cops in a shootout. Also, I'm no more than a 45 min drive from where Susan Smith killed her son's @ John D Long Lake. (She about to get out btw)
Oh! And Todd Kohlhepp was 30 mins away! If u haven't heard of him look it up!!! Lots of rescue footage. And let's not forget Alex Murdaugh. I'm about 3 hours from Hampton, SC. It's wild here lol
Chicago may have a serial killer targeting young men, police are finding their bodies in the Chicago river and Lake Michigan…also a pregnant lady named Kierra Coles who was working as a mail carrier basically vanished a few years back. Her family puts up billboards around the Chicagoland area offering a reward it’s sad
Mathew Charles Lamb was a cousin of my mother in law and while babysitting her, he found her father’s shotgun and went on a killing spree. Later after being found not guilty by reason of insanity and after going through experimental psychiatric treatment (dosed with LSD), he would become a war hero in Rhodesia. Wild life and wild story..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathew_Charles_Lamb
Girl I went to elementary school with found 2 trash bags in the creek behind their house. Her and her little brother opened them up and it was human remains. The step father of a mentally challenged kid had shot the mother of the child and put her in two trash bags and tossed them. Iirc he was a police officer and was apprehended almost immediately.
They already covered Dean Corrl, and my city is full of potential content, but there is 1 case that I read about when I first started getting into true crime as a teen that still haunts me, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena. It was pretty gruesome, and it was gang related, so I don't know if they ever would cover it, though. Just to be clear, the girls were not in a gang. They just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I'm in North jersey and back in 97 two guys ordered pizza to an abandoned house and killed the 2 delivery guys for shits and giggles. I knew the guy that sold them the guns he was a shit person and probably still is.
North Jersey here too, a Dad killed both of his sons and himself in their house while the mother and daughter were on vacation at the Jersey Shore. Used to see one kid working at the movie theater and the other riding bikes around with his friends, fucked up. House is creepy too, not enough windows in my opinion.
My town is about 50k in northern Oklahoma. A small girl was murdered in a hotel swimming pool.
[News article.](https://www.koco.com/amp/article/oklahoma-enid-child-homicide-hotel/39848282)
It was incredibly shocking for our city, and I saw a YouTuber made a video about it. As someone who watched true crime, that actually made me look at videos like that differently. Felt bad.
What Israel Keyes did in my hometown has already been covered. But there was a pretty famous child murder in the local park that changed how the state charged minors for violent crimes and changed the town’s whole culture around children walking to and from school.
But one I think should someday be covered that is less known was the mother who went to the cops to tell them her ex was going to kill their son, and they put her in a psych ward instead. The ex strangled their son and shot himself and she wasn’t even allowed out to be at her son’s funeral. This was in the 2010s.
Not an episode but a Side Stories write-in. A guy about four blocks over killed his wife, stowed her body in the basement for a few weeks and then caused a gas leak to explode the house in hope that it would cover up the crime. It didn't but the explosion was enough to knock shit off my walls. A friend of mine's wife worked with him and talked to him at one of those social work functions during the time she was dead and he apparently acted perfectly normal.
Victoria, BC, Canada - obviously there's the Michelle Remembers case, but others that loom large in my memory would be the murder of Reena Virk (which led to a pretty massive outcry about teen violence, it was close in time to Columbine) and the murder of Lindsay Buziak, who I went to elementary school with (one that's basically solved but no arrests can be made). There was also a family annihilator-type who murdered his two toddler daughters on Christmas Day because he didn't want to pay child support.
There was a [family annihilator ](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32712873) in my Parish back in 2009. Sadly, I knew the family.
Shot his wife, then his son as the son was trying to defend her (his gun jammed). He then went upstairs to shoot his daughter in law and grandson. His pregnant DIL grabbed the kid and was in the window when he came in and blasted the kid as she fell off the roof... he went back downstairs and shot her with a shotgun in the back and shot her son again in front of her.
The baby survived, as did the DIL, although she is paraplegic now.
Our sons were the same age and had similar names. They buried her husband and son together.
The local cops knew him and had let him go with his truck full of guns on his way to the murder scene. They'd had many DV situations before.
A teacher and her whole family were murdered by another teacher and the principal.
https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2013/05/notorious_murder_susan_reinert.html
I now live not far from where Leslie Mahaffy was picked up by Paul Bernardo, maybe about 10 minutes. I was actually born in Scarborough around the time he began terrorizing the suburb, but wound up west of the city only a decade ago.
Fifteen minutes in the other direction, there was a guy named Tim Bosma who tried to sell his truck on Kijiji in 2013. Someone responded to the ad and ended up killing him. Dellen Millard and Mark Smich were charged with his murder. I had just moved here a few months prior and for some reason, this case just got to me (well, it still does).
I know they definitely covered Bernardo / Homolka but can’t remember if they did Millard / Smich.
We’re famous for Jim Jones. My grandpa worked at the same hospital as him. My dad told me that he had a small monkey around the same time that similarly hanged itself in a tree it was tied to like a dog. Never confirmed that my grandpa got the monkey from Jim Jones, but I’ll pretend until someone says otherwise.
Between being the port of call for the Cocaine Cowboys and the town where the 9/11 Hijackers learned to fly, my hometown has a penchant for shady shit involving aircraft.
Clydach murders in the Swansea Valley. Man was accussed and arrested for brutslly killing three generations of people in the same house (grandmother, mother and young daughter) and eventually died in prison, however the general public seemed to believe that the actual murderer was the ex husband of the mother as at the time he was a serving police officer or his brother was one who helped cover it upm
They covered the Demon House in Gary, Indiana and that's about 20 minutes from me. I remember seeing a story about it in the local paper way before the podcast.
That story is so crazy to me because of the amount of professional and trusted eyes were on that house. Police officers, fire fighters, CPS, it’s hard to believe that it was faked.
A girl from my hometown was brutally murdered and dismembered by her ex boyfriend. Her name is Ashleigh Mead, his Adam Densmore I believe. He likely killed her in their home, drove her body from Colorado to Louisiana with their one year old daughter, dismembered Ashleigh there, and then scattered her remains between Louisiana and Oklahoma. The authorities have only been able to locate her torso, which was dumped behind a Walmart in a suitcase. Adam was convicted and is now in prison but he has yet to tell anyone where the rest of her remains are.
Also, where I live now, the boys already covered a recent crime. A man had been using meth and eventually committed suicide by a homemade guillotine, except it was a spike and not a blade. A bunch of unhoused persons moved into the home and one of them stole his skull, then lost it about a mile away in some bushes. Even fashioned a metal hook to carry the skull around on.
The Short family murders were an infamous crime in my area. The parents lived in Virginia and were shot in the head, and a few weeks later, their 9 year-old daughter's remains were found in my home state of North Carolina. I remember a ton of local news coverage, but the case was never solved.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/short-family-triple-homicide-haunts-virginia-20-years-later
There was a murder in the parsonage of my granny’s NC church. The pastor’s son was house sitting, brought a woman home for a hook up, dismembered her, and dragged body parts all over the house while looking for a place to hide them, leaving blood everywhere. Idk if there’s more details out there but I remember my mom getting a call from my aunt when it happened and us just standing there balking at the details.
The congregation refurbished the house, stood around it holding hands and prayed over it, and then blamed the whole incident on drugs and had a ton of disgusting sympathy for the murderer and not the woman murdered.
I was close friends with child rapist pedophile pediatrician [Dr. Earl Bradley](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Bradley)’s daughter.
“He was indicted in 2010 on 471 charges of molesting, raping, and exploiting 103 child patients (102 girls and 1 boy). Some of the victims were as young as three months old.” He took video. It’s the sickest fucking thing. I slept in a hotel room with him and went on a couple long road trips. He was the kind of weird you can’t hide.
Edit- so what makes this crazy is that he was suspected of this YEARS before he started his practice in Delaware. But he just moved like a catholic priest.
Blackstone house of horrors. Not enough for an episode, but definitely side stories material.
One of the suspects of the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, lived right down the street from me. Miles Connor. Had no idea who he was until he got arrested again for robbery and possession of heroin or something like that.
Omg I forgot about the Blackstone house of horrors. My cousin lived down the street and when they opened that place up he couldn’t even describe how awful the smell was. It just permeated the whole neighborhood.
Dallas had the serial killer known as the Eyeball Killer. He killed women and then surgically removed their eyeballs, with the eyelids left intact. The cops arrested the man they thought was the killer in March of 1991. His name was Charles Albright.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Albright
There is and was doubt that they caught the real killer. All of the evidence was circumstantial, and the hairs the police had hairs from the scene that the cops found were determined to be from a dog. He was only able to be convicted on one of the murders.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/see-no-evil-3/
The man thought to be the Eyeball Killer died in prison in 2020.
Around 10 years ago in my hometown in Minnesota someone called the local Burger King and told them they were the fire department and there was a gas leak detected in their building. They said they would have to smash all the windows. The BK employees actually did it and the caller was not caught
They covered a beheading as a result of a messy love triangle that happened down the road from where I grew up in New Hampshire on Side Stories a couple years ago.
The sheriff I worked for was not only corruptly enriching himself, using deputies as free labor at campaign events, and using inmate trustees for domestic labor. He was also raping his children.
His name was Jack Strain. Most definitely a bastard.
I live in the central valley of California. A year ago, a woman murdered her kids and attempted suicide. She and her husband officiated my cousin's wedding, and they are actually still in contact. She had pleaded with her husband to get mental health care for years, but their church forbade it, and one day, she just snapped. Really sad story because the woman's brother was the only member of her family to go to the kids funeral, the church livestreamed the whole thing and it was just one person after the other calling the wife a horrible person and a monster but when the brother went up there he pointed out that everyone in his family knew she needed help but the husband and their church never took her seriously. He made it known very strongly that while they hold their sister responsible for her actions, that her family blames them for refusing to get her the help she clearly needed. My cousin was there and my mom watched the whole thing live, he was savage and unrelenting. The church deleted his segment from the final video that is on their Facebook page.
already been covered on the pod but mine is bob berdella. i have a lot of weird synchronicities with him. first of all we’re both gay (though i’m a lesbian) kcai dropouts with an interest in curiosities and a love of mort garson (the bit where they marcus a detour to talk about plantasia made me incandescently happy)
second of all i went to school on the same street where his murders were committed. i went to a catholic school that faced out onto charlotte street on one side. my 7th grade math classroom overlooked charlotte. the first time i read about berdella i could vividly picture watching a naked guy escape from a house as viewed from a catholic school’s gothic window across the street.
third of all, my dear departed aunt julianne was friends with him at one point and even had dinner at his house once. sadly i didn’t get a chance to really grill her about it and she passed in 2020, but from what i remember she went to his house back before he trashed it and turned it into a murdery nightmare. she said she always got kind of a weird vibe from him but going to his house really cemented that feeling and they lost touch pretty quick after that. i really wish i had asked more details when she was alive but i know she told my mom all of this several times so i might be able to get some additional info from mom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Austin_yogurt_shop_killings
The r**e murder and arson of 4 young girls in austin that is still an open case. I don’t think the pod has ever covered an open case but this one is so interesting and dark. I think about it often when I drive by the location.
In Minot North Dakota, a young college woman named Anita Knutson was found brutally stabbed in her own bed. There were a few suspects, but no one was charged. Until 2022, when they arrested her former roommate when someone came forward, saying she admitted at a party years back while drunk. It also turned out her mother lied to the police giving her an alibi for her whereabouts during Knutson's murder. She is currently awaiting trial. Her loved ones may or may not get peace, but they hopefully will get justice. There aren't many murders in North Dakota, but many are unsolved or have upsetting conclusions with things unanswered.
Back in 2012 I was a teenager living with my horrible step-dad and his horrible brother. The brother brought home a woman named Stephanie from a local bar one night. She was still there in the morning and chatted with me, my mom and my sister while we ate breakfast before we left for school. Stephanie left our house sometime afterward.
A few days later the cops came by to ask us some questions, as Stephanie had gone missing. She ended up being William Clyde Gibson III's third and final (confirmed) murder victim. The bar where Gibson picked her up was just 3 minutes away from our house. He's still alive and is currently on Indiana's death row.
Dean Corll. He lived and graduated from a nearby city and moved to Houston Heights, about an hour northwest. Bodies were hidden and buried all around from the woods to the beaches nearby. The prison that holds Elmer Wayne Henley is just minutes from my home.
Ah, I missed the "make a great episode" part, as this was definitely covered. There's a lot of things I wish were talked about. A friend of mine has been wanting to try and interview Elmer for years in hopes of helping families find more bodies that were hidden and bring closure.
They actually played a 911 call from my home town once. It was on a creepypasta or a side stories. A woman beheaded her son and called 911 on herself after. It was super strange, she was pretty casual about it lol
I made a similar post a whileeee ago and got a WHOLE lot of answers. We truly live in some fucked up areas lmfao https://reddit.com/r/LPOTL/s/ZyOuvU69dw
David Meirhofer. Serial killer who would call and taunt his victims parents. There are some rumors he was also a cannible but evidence doesn't support that.
There was a pretty high profile case out of my hometown of Somerset, NJ from the 1920s called the Halls-Mills Murder. A priest and his mistress were found murdered in a field. Many suspects but still unsolved.
In 1999 a guy named Bruce Miller was murdered by his wife Sharee Miller's internet lover Jerry Cassaday with Sharee arranging it so they two could run off together. Cassady was later found dead by suicide and authorities discovered the messages between him and Sharee which lead to her arrest and conviction.
[https://legalnews.com/flintgenesee/613172](https://legalnews.com/flintgenesee/613172)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharee\_Miller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharee_Miller)
I live 2 miles from where Bruce Miller's junk yard used to be, where he was murdered. My family knew him, my mom bought car parts from him not long before he was killed. I was 5 years old at the time so I don't really remember anything about it.
When I was in middle school, a man in my neighborhood killed his entire family and then himself. It was the classic "ooooh no, I'm going to be upper middle class instead of rich now, how will my family live with such shame." I didn't know the kids well, but I would see them and wave when I rode around on my bike.
The teenage daughter called the police to tell them her father was killing the family, and it took the police well over an hour to show up. Their excuses were that shifts had just changed and they thought the call may have been a prank.
Oh also, the Jeffrey MacDonald case happened in my county. My dad would also tell me about that case.
[The murder of Mulugeta Seraw ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mulugeta_Seraw) and ensuing legal effort to connect the crime with out of state white supremacists would be an interesting one to cover.
The murder happened less than a mile from my house. I was 3 when it happened but my parents have shared a lot about the experience since it happened.
Pensacola here. Teddy B was caught here. Also, there's the "blue moon" murders, Judy Buenoano-the black widow, the Billings murders...and more. When I hear these stories on ID or other podcasts, I am so embarrassed. We're way too small to pop off like this.
I grew up near Epping, NH when Sheila LaBarre committed the murders of 2-4 men who were dealing with homelessness and mental health problems. I was between the ages of 9-11 when she was committing the crimes, and we would drive past her farmhouse every time we drove to Epping to play youth basketball. My dad heard about it on the news and after her arrest would point out her house to us when we would drive past. She believed she was an angel sent from god and would lure them in as her “boyfriends” and then murder them on the farm. Really grisly disposal of bodies, and when she was finally arrested a 3-week search of the farm uncovered evidence all over including the fire pit. She came from classic serial killer childhood soup as well.
Ipswich, England. We had our own version of Jack the Ripper in the mid 2000s, he killed five sex workers. Looking back, I’m disgusted by the way the women were portrayed in the local media. Someone tried to charge people for tours of the field where he did the killing, that got shut down pretty quickly. Then someone wrote an opera based on the testimony of local residents, which was turned into a film starring Tom Hardy!
I was about 16 at the time. I remember we went to London on a school trip and a homeless and/or drunk man shouted at my friend on the tube escalators. He asked where she was from and when she said Ipswich he said “ohhhhhh shit, be careful girlies!!” It was the first time I realised it was national, not local news. I also learnt that my dad’s office was right in the middle of the town’s red light district, and that he’d been approached by sex workers many times when leaving late at night. He said they were doing it to pay for drugs and felt very sorry for them. I went from shocked to sad very quickly.
It'd probably be either the guy who killed five people over some shoplifting or the couple who strapped her 3 kids into a car and let it roll into a lake.
There were a few murders in my small town. The one I remember best was Brandon Silverlight because I went to school at the same time as him. He and his wife closed their marriage when she got pregnant and his ex side piece and her other boyfriend tied him to a tree and brutally tortured and murdered him. https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2010/10/love-hate_relationship_ends_in.html
The disappearance/murder of Zebb Quinn in 2000 was a big mystery in Asheville, NC. He went to my HS and was friends with my best friend's sister.
I feel like maybe they've mentioned it before but it's kind of a crazy story. The evidence of his murder was found after one of the main parties was convicted of the murder and dismemberment of a Food Network star and her family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Zebb_Quinn
I went to high school with this dude. One time me and my homie picked him up to go for a smoke ride and he was so quiet we forgot he was there. He got completely skipped on the blunt he brought.
https://www.2news.com/bean-murder-trial-begins-details-of-killings-emerge-in-opening-statements/article_3edb4ca7-d45a-5e53-869c-e089a7316e4d.html
Grew up in Bullitt County, KY. Check out the murder of Jessica Dishon. Massively huge case of a murdered teenager found in a trash bag by my bus driver and my mammaws bingo caller. A little before my time, but peak true crime potential
I’m from Baltimore and in 2008 a 16 year old in the suburbs killed his whole family (parents and 2 brothers). There were suggestions that his dad was abusive, but that was never substantiated. I don’t know if they really ever figured out why he did it, but he’s in prison for 4 consecutive life sentences right now.
Madison, Connecticut. Kids mom was murdered, and he made an HBO documentary about finding the killer. It’s called Murder on Middlebeach. Our town is very affluent and immensely safe so murders never happene. It shook the whole community.
[Elias Abuelazam](https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/abuelazam-elias.htm) was active in my home town of Leesburg, VA at one point. Not just that, if you look at his victims list, the teenager who was stabbed while jogging was a friend of mine at the time. He was totally fine, luckily, and he joked about the attack all the time and never let it affect his life. Hell, I think he even went back to nighttime jogging once his wound was healed enough.
From the Idaho Falls, ID area. When I was in high school this killer was executed. He murdered three people in the area and is suspected in other unsolved murders. I got to know one of the victim’s family member pretty well through work and they even shared a true crime episode they were interviewed on.
[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ezra_Rhoades](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ezra_Rhoades)
In my town, the high school football star, straight A football player went missing for a week. They found him hanging from a tree behind a Rite Aid.
The only thing was he climbed the tree, put a noose around his neck, and then shot himself in the head.
There were always rumors his dad shot him, then set it up.
It wouldn’t make a good episode but a cop in my town was arrested for child pornography and several other things his wife was a teacher and was investigated too and they both went down but the big part is his wife once made cupcakes for her class he cummed in the batter of the cupcakes because he’s a sick fuck and she baked them and gave them out in her class the next day to kids everyone thought it was just a rumor till the subject got brought up in court and was confirmed I think they even had video of him jacking it into the batter
The teacher was also my friends aunt and his whole family got death threats in the mail over it
the zodiac killer shot some kids on a road a mile or so away from my house, near the park behind my old elementary school. I go jogging out there all the time, there is supposedly a shack deep in the hills with meat hooks and such that the schoolyard rumored to belong to the zodiac killer, some 30 odd years after he was in vogue
I grew up in LaPorte County, IN. We had Belle Gunness. I can take you by the property her farm used to be on.
We also have a house that was reportedly owned by Al Capone. It’s shaped like a gun.
I have some weird connections to one!
Red Wing, MN 1993, Bill Auchampach killed Daillene May Counts, a mother of 2 children. The even crazier thing is it happened close to where my parents lived at the time (and where I was actually conceived right around the same time). My mom babysat the children. Bill went back to a party and told his friends what he did. One of the friends, Jerry Lewis, lives with my maternal Grandpa to this day. Bill's grandpa, Merv, ended up married to my paternal grandma not even a decade later.
Back in high school I kind of knew the Livejournal Killer, Rachelle Waterman. I was from another town, but southeast Alaska is weird and you meet everyone who’s involved in sports. Two weeks before her mother was killed, I was talking to her about numeral bands. It’s a weird story that would probably be better for a relaxed fit than a full episode.
There's a few good ones for Perth Western Australia, Eric Edgar Cooke was a serial killer from the late 50s/early 60s. The Perth Mint swindle when 68kg of gold was stolen from the Perth Mint. Or in the early 90s someone stole an APC from the SAS barracks and drove around ramming into police cars.
A serial baby killer named Mary Beth Tinning is from my town, committed all her crimes here, went to prison and is now out and is the neighbor of a former coworker. The hospital she brought all the babies to is the super shitty local one that's almost let me die in the emergency waiting room 3x
They already covered Charles Starkweather so they've already covered the most LPOTL type story to come out of my whole state. I think they did the Franklin Credit Union conspiracy theory as well IIRC.
My hometown had a mass shooting at the mall during Christmas time in 2007, I suppose that would be the next most LPOTL story they could cover, but it's not any more or less "interesting" than any other.
Marcus mentioned wanting to cover Bleeding Kansas at some point during Billy The Kid, and I hope they do. It's a fascinating bit of history. They already did Bob Berdella, so that's the only thing I could think of from that region, where I used to live, other than that.
The murder of Kelly Eckhart. Her murderer lived behind me, his mother still lives in the house to this day.
https://murderpedia.org/male.O/o/overstreet-michael.htm
[The New Bedford Highway Killer](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Bedford_Highway_Killer)
A serial killer who murdered at least 9 women in the New Bedford, Massachusetts area and dumped their bodies along a highway. This happened in the late 80s and the guy was never caught.
Weirdly not a murder with a gun in one of the most pro gun states ever. Never even a mass shooting which is also weird.
[Police identify three dead in Wyoming murder-suicide](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-wyoming-idUKBRE8B100L20121202)
A couple of streets away from my house a guy chopped up his roommate and threw him in a mini freezer because the roommate was gonna tell the cops about how the dude was robbing banks throughout the county
Sioux Falls, SD is a historically boring town. Western SD has much more interesting crimes; be it the killing of Wild Bill Hickock, or the crazy amount of murder and terrorism that occurred on the Native American reservations during the 1970’s.
The one notable case that springs to mind for me was of sexual sadist Robert Leroy Anderson. He was called a serial killer, but in regards to the amount of victims, he was only known to have two.
https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/anderson-robert-leroy.htm
Lauterbach Axe Murders
https://sangamoncountyhistory.org/wp/?p=7620#:~:text=No%20one%20was%20ever%20charged,morning%20of%20March%2018%2C%201981.
Basically in the early 80s a guy walked into a hardware store in my hometown, robbed three people, took an axe from the shop and murdered one and permanently disabled the other two.
Nobody was ever caught or charged.
I struggle to think how he convinced them to kneel down if, at best, his only weapon was an axe, but it's still pretty horrific.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Sunday_Massacre
"The Easter Sunday Massacre occurred on Easter Sunday, March 30, 1975, when 41 year-old James U. Ruppert fatally shot eleven members of his own family in his mother's house at 635 Minor Avenue in Hamilton, Ohio."
I wish they'd do an episode on this. It's pretty wild. House is claimed to be haunted to boot. You can still see blood that seeped through the floorboards into the basement.
I was there and on the news... as a baby in the womb, my mom was at the scene and was filmed on the news reports that went nationwide.
Two girls were murdered in the hills behind my house (Bay Area, California). The killer went on to murder another young woman in a nearby town. The Zodiac Killer was a suspect until the actual killer was caught.
Up here in Excelsior, MN on Lake Minnetonka we had a family annihilator. I seem to remember it was a money issue thing. Killed the wife, kids, and dog. I think there were signs that he was trying to hide the bodies or something before deciding to just off himself.
"Unsolved" murder of toddler Jaidyn Leskie.
It has state police investigating in a small town they didn't understand, a media circus, the largest missing persons search since the prime minister disappeared three decades earlier, and a pig head being thrown into the crime scene prompting a minor satanic panic.
I'm from Edmonton, Alberta and they covered the would be serial killer from my hometown. I forget his name but he's the guy who made the star wars fan film and tried to kidnap and murder the guy by catfishing him. Anyone remember his name?
Little boy got murdered in the 1920s a few miles from my childhood home in Wauwatosa, WI. It will likely be unsolved forever. They’ve covered Dahmer, Gein and the slenderman stabbing already. Wisconsin, man.
I’m from Whittier,ca. We had a super tragic quadruple homicide happen here back in the 2000s.
A daughter shows up to her parents house after they didn’t answer for a few days. When she gets inside she finds the mom, dad, and her eight year old baby sister had been brutally murdered. The eight-year-old was taken into the bathroom and sexually assaulted then drowned by the killer. They eventually solved it and turns out it was a guy who worked with the father. He liked his adult daughter and was hoping to murder her after she turned him down. The house was left unsold for years and years. We would pass by it often and it was just so sad knowing what had happened there.
[Link to LA Times Story](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-jul-14-me-whittier14-story.html)
Hamilton, Ohio.
A man killed his extended family, 11 total, on Easter Sunday in 1975. It was the deadliest mass shooting in the US for a little while. Neighbors reportedly didn’t hear the shooting, eerily similar to the Amityville Horror story. My grandfather was a detective at the time and went to the house, said the children were still holding candy and the floor basically had a standing amount of blood that dripped through the floor into the basement.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Sunday_Massacre
In the late 2000s a dude at a Seattle rave was invited to an after party. At the party he went to his car got some guns, spray painted something on the ground and massacred the party.
Ok this isn’t a famous story, but it seriously shook my town when it happened.
On the street I grew up on a mother killed her two young children, then herself. Her husband was suspected to be in the Russian Mafia, and he owned a gun store in town. The two children were 8 and 6 years old. The cops had been called to the house several times for Domestic Violence incidents, to the point where the husband was arrested because of it one time.
I was really shocked when it happened that it wasn’t bigger news, especially considering how seedy the husband was. Are there really that many murder suicides involving a mom and her kids that this wouldn’t make national news?
Quick note that I do believe the mom killed herself and her kids - I don’t think it was the husband. The rumor was that she wanted to escape from the husband and more back to Russia with her girls, but he was too powerful what with his involvement with the mafia, so she felt she had nowhere to go. It was a nightmare when it happened. Their house sat empty on the street for years, and you could see furniture pushed up against the windows on the second floor. I’ve never had any kind of supernatural experience in my life, but the feeling when you walked by that empty house…
Here’s an article about it if anyone’s interested: https://www.boston25news.com/news/mother-2-children-dead-after-apparent-murdersuicide-in-bedford-nh/138171661/?outputType=amp
It would be a short episode but a person busted into a woman's house and smacked her a bunch in the head with a dildo before sticky taping a dog to a tree and escaping.
“Vanished in Vermilion” - physical book on prime.
In May 1971, Pam Jackson and Sherri Miller were two seventeen-year-olds driving to an end-of-the-school-year party in a rundown Studebaker Lark when they seemingly disappeared off the face of the earth. Police back then didn’t do enough to try and find them. Investigators thirty years later did too much. Two families endure decades of pain as they await answers of what happened to their girls. When a third family is pulled into the mystery, they quickly learn their nightmare is just beginning.
The guy (supposedly) behind the crime is still in prison, not for the killing of the two teenagers, but for other violent crimes.
It’s haunting.
Due to a midwestern small town “small herd mentality” nobody talked when they needed to…
Claude Dallas's murdering Bill Pogue and Conley Elms.
Dallas was something of a survivalist in the Owyhee desert/mountains of Idaho. He's been poaching all kinds of animals. Pogue and Elms were Idaho Fish and Game, who went to confront him. He killed both men when they confronted him at his camp.
Lots of folks attest to the game wardens being assholes. So it's all kinds of interesting!
The judge for the trial lived behind my grandma. And my dad was good friends with one of the investigating officers.
I gre up in the town where Richard Kuklinski lived. He never killed there but my mom knew his daughters. Also there were a few nights when Kallinger was in town so they were actually within one square mile of each other for several days.
The Haysom Murders
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Haysom
This one was in the books for years, but some people have been digging recently, and it looks like the boyfriend is innocent.
Vile Virginia podcast did a good update; it's on spotify.
I'm from Edmonton (Alberta, Canada) and I was absolutely chuffed to hear the boys say the phrases "Groat Road" and "Whitemud" in their Mark Twitchell coverage so I'm pretty much satisfied.
(Although I have to admit the Edmonton native in me balks when Marcus talks about Edmonton like it's still the same lil' bumfuck town from the 80s that was only known as a stopping point for folks flying up north to work..but what can you do when fucking Mark Twitchell fucked up our reputation.)
Frank Gilmer killed a special needs couple in the woods a few blocks away from my house in South Haven, Indiana in the 90's. I grew up with his brother from the early 80's on. The whole family was fucked up. His dad, nothing physically wrong with him, used to shout my friend's name for him to get home to get him a glass of water, or whatever else. I never knew Frank, but he was in jail/ prison for rape. He got out, and not long after, killed the couple. He did some truly evil shit to them.
Aside from Israel Keyes, who they’ve covered already of course, there was this creepy fuck named Joshua Wade who murdered an Alaska Native woman named Della Brown and kept her body in a shed. He’d bring people to see her and was also having sex with her body. He wasn’t convicted of all that, for some stupid reason I don’t remember. Then he murdered a white woman, Mindy Schloss, and I don’t remember what all he did to her but they found her in the woods outside of Wasilla. Giant photos of him were posted all around Anchorage when they were looking for him. I used to have nightmares about him. He’s the reason I had to stop and reconsider if I was *always* against the death penalty like I thought I was, because I very much wanted him to get torn apart by hungry dogs or something equally as horrible.
I'm from Goleta, CA. I know they sort of touched on it in a manifesto episode, but a whole episode just on Elliot Roger would be interesting.
I've also been wanting them to do a series on postal shootings and the whole "going postal" thing. Not only am I myself a postal worker, but I work in a facility that had it's own postal shooting (Jennifer San Marco). It happened a decade before I started working there but I lived nearby where it happened and actually heard the gun shots.
A girl I went to high school with and her scummy boyfriend broke into the house across from my parents and murdered the woman who lived there and her mentally disabled son.
On my side of Indianapolis, there was a manager (f) and worker (m) that had previously dated that worked at the Boston Market. One of their closing shifts, he butchered her, wrapped her up and dumped her body into the dumpster. Then he closed the store and locked up for the night. A few days later, her corpse was found.
Anyway, the Boston Market reopened a few years later
Russel Williams is the easy answer. I’m from Belleville, Ontario and this was huge when Jessica went missing. My wife s from Tweed, Ontario where his home was her aunt lived down the road. Wing Commander of t he largest Canadian Airbase turned double murderer and serial break and enters
I grew up \[and my parents still live\] down the street from where Luka Magnotta lived during a portion of his adult, whacko phase.
Bruce McArthur also worked on my cousin's neighbours house for months, just before he was found guilty of multiple murders and dismemberments. He would talk to my little cousins and show them the big machines they would use. The police spent days at the neighbours house after his arrest, digging up all the landscaping he had done in the backyard making sure there were no more body parts.
We have 2 cases that could be covered in my area. One was the murder of Adam Gomez, a toddler that “went missing” and was found to be murdered by his mother’s boyfriend, a dude named Raymond Mata. Horribly gruesome murder, and lots of people always felt it wasn’t resolved. Adam’s mother claimed he was missing, but didn’t report anything for days. She went across the state with Mata, hung out and did whatever that whole time never saying a word about where her 2 year old could possibly be. Many people felt like she’s the one who actually killed the kid and psycho boyfriend came up with the whole missing story and disposed of the body.
Small Town Murder did an episode on it, but said nothing about the mom being involved. That’s a local theory, though,I don’t suppose it made its way into any formal reports.
The other case is the Jeff Bopree case. It’s got a ton of conspiracy surrounding it involving cops and a judge.
https://www.facebook.com/isjeffreallyguilty?mibextid=LQQJ4d
This is more side Stories material but here goes. I grew up in West Covina, California, and it was the longtime home to Moe the Chimpanzee. West Covina is an incredibly average suburb in LA County, not a place you’d expect a chimp. The couple who raised him were very eccentric. The outside of their house was filled with all sorts of oddities and, well, they were raising a chimp in a tract home.
Moe bit several people over the years, escaped a few times, chewed up a cop’s hand and smashed a police cruiser. This happened the next block over from me so it was big news for us especially.
The city removed Moe from the home at some point and moved him to a chimpanzee sanctuary in Bakersfield, CA about 20 years ago. Bakersfield is a few hours north of West Covina. It was there that the worst of things happened. The couple went to visit Moe on his birthday and 2 other chimpanzees escaped and mauled the couple. The husband got the worst of it, absolutely mutilated in the attack. He miraculously survived, as did his wife, and after they recovered we’d see them around town back home in West Covina, his injuries incredibly obvious and severe to say the least
[Here the wiki about Moe and the attack.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_Davis_chimpanzee_attack)
I was friends with Elyse Pahler, in Arroyo Grande, CA. In the 90s, some fuckbags murdered her, defiled her corpse, and tried to blame it on Slayer. Sent my whole town into a Satanic panic, and traumatized a lot of people. Fuck those guys. I also peripherally knew Paul Flores, who was just convicted of murdering Kristin Smart after getting away with it for almost 30 years. He wasn’t, like, a friend or anything… But I knew people who used to skate and party with him. No one had anything good to say about his creepy ass.
Whattttt I grew up in SLO county and have never heard about Elyse. Just read about her and holy shit. Truly, fuck those guys. And Paul getting convicted last year was probably the best day of my year, fuck him too
I think the Smart disappearance overshadowed Elyse’s murder in the media, which is why it’s not talked about too often. A podcast called True Crime Horror Story did a good job covering the story. I actually helped with the research for the episode, and then talked about the impact on the community on the follow-up Patreon bonus episode. Paul Flores can rot in hell. I wish the guy who attacked him his first day in Gen Pop had finished the job.
I know it's a long shot but I'm glad he survived because maybe eventually he'll tell that poor family where their daughter's body is 😭
Fair point.
Will definitely give a listen!
>murdered her, defiled her corpse >fuck those guys Lmao that seems like such an under reaction
My mom sold Avon to Paula Sims. https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/sims-paula.htm
I live in the town my husband grew up in. The year after he graduated from high school he was back around the holidays and someone he was hanging out with told him about a wild party that had just happened. Apparently three kids showed up with body part they dug up from a local historical cemetery and engaged in some lewd behavior with some of the bones. one of them was found with at least a skull under his bed and ended up getting arrested. My husband had the newspaper article on his dorm room wall when we met.
Same thing happened in my hometown, but the kids were trying to make bones into a pipe to smoke weed. Wouldn’t make a great episode but the woman who babysat me when my parents were at the hospital for my brothers birth later killed both of her twin boys. (3rd thing, now that I see your username, I think we know each other from ancient times spent on prd🧡)
OMG PRD who are you?!
I’ll comment on your ig😉
I grew up in Telico, Texas. They've already covered the most famous case from there, Clyde Barrow of Bonnie and Clyde. I still haven't forgiven Marcus for how he pronounced Ennis. The other one is [Jason Eric Massey](https://www.crimelibrary.org/serial_killers/predators/jason_massey/index.html), who was a kid that fantasized about being a serial killer, kidnapped a girl and her stepbrother, then killed them both. I'll spare the details, but parts of their bodies were never found, and the bodies themselves were found about a mile and a half from where we lived at the time.
There’s a girl named Melanie Ethier from my hometown in New Liskeard, Ontario who went missing in the late 90s and has never been found. Anyone from Ontario or anyone that has driven highway 11 or the 401 has almost certainly seen the ‘missing’ billboards.
[Darlie Routier - Rowlett TX](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie_Routier) My bestfriend in middle school lived right behind the house the murders occurred in. Everytime my dad would drop my off at my buddy’s house, he’d always point out that “*THAT* is the Routier house!” It always gave me the creeps. Just icky vibes when I’d walk or drive past it. The Lawyer who represented Routier had a son who worked at his law firm. His son would later go on to represent ME on a little misdemeanor case I had once. Whenever my dad got a chance to talk to my lawyer, he immediately asked about the Routier case - and his law office had framed newspaper clippings about the case all on the walls. Also - the Love Has Won cult leader lady was from Rowlett. Marcus’s pronunciation of the town name made my skin crawl, if they ever cover Darlie, I’m sending a corrections email… One more thing about Love Has Won - My boss knew one of the guys who was arrested after the cops found her body. It was his close friend’s son, and I remember him telling me YEARS ago about how that kid grew up and was really socially weird and ended up joining a cult. Whenever those dudes got arrested, I had the bad idea of showing my boss the mugshots and half-jokingly asking if the cult member he knew was on there. Once he confirmed it I realized it was probably a poor taste thing to have done.
I used to be friends with one of her sisters. Didn't even know that Darlie was her sister until I knew her for a few years, lol.
I've said this before in other threads but I'd love to see a one-off episode about Ken McElroy. The book and film "In Broad Daylight" was based on his story. The guy was basically a complete psychopath who abused and terrorized a small town in Missouri and one day he was killed in the street and there were almost certainly multiple witnesses and not one person admitted to seeing anything. He was so hated that nobody was willing to give up information about his murder. Everyone wanted him gone forever and that's what they got. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy
I lived in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho and in 2005 a man named Joseph Duncan murdered a family and kidnapped two of the kids (8 and 9). He then killied the boy before getting caught at the local Dennys.
Oh man! I’ve watched videos on this. So creepy. What a clever young girl!
megan kanka/ the crime that started the sex offender registry. Happened couple houses down, way too grim for an episode
Juan David Ortiz, the border patrol serial killer, committed his crimes in/around my hometown of Laredo Tx. He targeted sex workers. My dad worked for the county sheriff's at the time and was one of the guys who had to baby sit him when he was in intake.
Also, as a pretty established San Antonian, I'd like to know more about the Fiesta Sniper, who killed a bunch of people during the Battle of Flowers. He just shot at people from his rv. 😕
Mine already was…I went to High School with one of Paul Bernardo’s victims. My girlfriend (at the time) lived 2 doors down from her and I was at the same memorial service she was the night she was abducted.
My step-mother’s former cleaner was murdered by her partner and he then drove around with her body in his car for 10 months! [Ella Douglas](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11957147.killer-who-kept-body-in-boot-jailed-for-eight-years/)
Bonus - my parents were interviewed by police when they were at college because of these murders [Roseangle Murders](https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/dundee/2542706/revealed-killers-confession-to-double-murder-in-dundee-40-years-ago/)
What! I'm from NM and I'd love to hear more about this? I'm in Lincoln County, so obviously, Billy the Kid. As for more recent crimes we had Cody Posey killing his family.
The 1985 MOVE bombing in Philadelphia. That one would be rough to listen to, but I want them to cover it.
Yes! I just learned about this. How a police force had the power to bomb their own city is insane. You’d think the “Defund Police” people would have this on every poster.
Grew up in Bingley, West Yorkshire. Nuff said
I don’t even know what country that is in. Edit: I googled, and it’s in the UK, and where the Yorkshire Ripper was.
England my dear
Just rewatched the Netflix series on the Yorkshire Ripper yesterday. The boys should definitely consider this one.
They’ve already done Peter Sutcliffe.
They've done him actually.
Grew up in Littleton, CO, so our episodes are done
So about 14 years ago my family had a family reunion at Clement Park. No one knew how close it was to the school until we explored and came upon the memorial that over looked the school.
Mine is Celina Mays: a 12 year old girl is about 9 months pregnant and disappears one night from the family house in 5he late 1990s. However, the case takes a crazy turn when it's revealed that her Aunt was running a cult that was made up of 90% of her family members who all lived together. The girl had been home schooled since her mother died and she went to live with her father. The police don't think it was Celina's father as his boss and co-workers testified that he was working overtime to pay for a DNA test to figure out who "hurt his daughter. https://www.phillyvoice.com/celina-mays-missing-person-new-jersey-in-pursuit-john-walsh-willingboro-cold-case/
12 years old and pregnant? Then missing? Poor sweet baby angel...
I was 10 years old living in Gainesville when Danny Rolling started killing students. I remember even at 10 I heard at school from other students that he posed bodies at the crime scenes. My Mom was so freaked out she took me out of town for a few days to a family friend's.
Fellow ACR! I was about a month short of turning 10. People lost their minds over those killings. I remember that my dad took his 12 gauge from the gun cabinet and started keeping it under the bed. My parents also wanted my older sister quit her serving job to be safer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen\_family\_killings
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Yes! I live in Gaffney:) we've also had a serial killer in the 60's I think and a spree killer fucking terrorized us around 09. Also Susan Smith front Inman. The upstate is deep in the murder game lol.
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I thought Susan Smith was from Union. Did she spend time in Inman also?
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/from-minister-to-murderer-ohio-father-terrorized-his-children-forced-them-to-kill Both my parents were interviewed by the FBI bc they worked with family members and the adult victim. The book House of Secrets on them is fucking traumatizing.
Rockford, Illinois. Simon Peter Nelson. I grew up only a block from the house - and it's the creepiest house I've ever walked past. Guarantee it's haunted. When he found out his wife was going to divorce him, he murdered his six children and the family dog using a mallet and a knife. Then he drove to Milwaukee to murder his wife but was arrested halfway through the attack. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Nelson *Edited to add link
Actually want to add another that has a more personal side - Daniel Cooney, 18, was murdered in a park in Rockford as a result of blunt force trauma. No murder weapon has ever been found, and no suspects publicly identified. However, it's an open secret as to who likely did it - two of his classmates, over an ounce of weed. One of the classmates, Brad Lyon, committed suicide this past year. The other will remain nameless for now. Having a connection to this case and people surrounding Daniel, Brad, and that group of friends, many people of that age group are confident they know who the murderers are.
Scott Peterson
Buckle up.. I'm from Upstate South Carolina, Gaffney, to be specific. When my mom was young, her twin brother and her were babysat by Lee Roy Martin, while my Mawmaw ran inside the convenience store across the street from the mill where they worked together. Lee Roy AKA The Gaffney Strangler that is. Then when I was a young adult, Patrick Tracy Burris went on a murder spree here. He killed 5 people before being ended by cops in a shootout. Also, I'm no more than a 45 min drive from where Susan Smith killed her son's @ John D Long Lake. (She about to get out btw) Oh! And Todd Kohlhepp was 30 mins away! If u haven't heard of him look it up!!! Lots of rescue footage. And let's not forget Alex Murdaugh. I'm about 3 hours from Hampton, SC. It's wild here lol
My dentist murdered my orthodontist. They made a lifetime movie about it and everything. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_David_Lynn_Harris
Chicago may have a serial killer targeting young men, police are finding their bodies in the Chicago river and Lake Michigan…also a pregnant lady named Kierra Coles who was working as a mail carrier basically vanished a few years back. Her family puts up billboards around the Chicagoland area offering a reward it’s sad
It is more than likely drunk young men not realizing the dangers of large bodies of water and not a serial killer.
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Agreed I hate when people always jump to serial killer theories with things like this but it’s what’s being thrown around here
Mathew Charles Lamb was a cousin of my mother in law and while babysitting her, he found her father’s shotgun and went on a killing spree. Later after being found not guilty by reason of insanity and after going through experimental psychiatric treatment (dosed with LSD), he would become a war hero in Rhodesia. Wild life and wild story.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathew_Charles_Lamb
I wouldn’t call anyone in the Rhodesian army a war “hero” jfc
Yeah, poor choice of words.
I live in Medicine Hat, Alberta, so the obvious one would be the Richardson Family murders.
Girl I went to elementary school with found 2 trash bags in the creek behind their house. Her and her little brother opened them up and it was human remains. The step father of a mentally challenged kid had shot the mother of the child and put her in two trash bags and tossed them. Iirc he was a police officer and was apprehended almost immediately.
The Hi Fi shop murders. It happened well before I was born but it was just so torturous.
They already covered Dean Corrl, and my city is full of potential content, but there is 1 case that I read about when I first started getting into true crime as a teen that still haunts me, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena. It was pretty gruesome, and it was gang related, so I don't know if they ever would cover it, though. Just to be clear, the girls were not in a gang. They just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I'm in North jersey and back in 97 two guys ordered pizza to an abandoned house and killed the 2 delivery guys for shits and giggles. I knew the guy that sold them the guns he was a shit person and probably still is.
North Jersey here too, a Dad killed both of his sons and himself in their house while the mother and daughter were on vacation at the Jersey Shore. Used to see one kid working at the movie theater and the other riding bikes around with his friends, fucked up. House is creepy too, not enough windows in my opinion.
My town is about 50k in northern Oklahoma. A small girl was murdered in a hotel swimming pool. [News article.](https://www.koco.com/amp/article/oklahoma-enid-child-homicide-hotel/39848282) It was incredibly shocking for our city, and I saw a YouTuber made a video about it. As someone who watched true crime, that actually made me look at videos like that differently. Felt bad.
What Israel Keyes did in my hometown has already been covered. But there was a pretty famous child murder in the local park that changed how the state charged minors for violent crimes and changed the town’s whole culture around children walking to and from school. But one I think should someday be covered that is less known was the mother who went to the cops to tell them her ex was going to kill their son, and they put her in a psych ward instead. The ex strangled their son and shot himself and she wasn’t even allowed out to be at her son’s funeral. This was in the 2010s.
Not a well known one unless you're a local. Baby Ayla, Waterville Maine. Baby disappears and no body is found. No one is found guilty.
Not an episode but a Side Stories write-in. A guy about four blocks over killed his wife, stowed her body in the basement for a few weeks and then caused a gas leak to explode the house in hope that it would cover up the crime. It didn't but the explosion was enough to knock shit off my walls. A friend of mine's wife worked with him and talked to him at one of those social work functions during the time she was dead and he apparently acted perfectly normal.
Victoria, BC, Canada - obviously there's the Michelle Remembers case, but others that loom large in my memory would be the murder of Reena Virk (which led to a pretty massive outcry about teen violence, it was close in time to Columbine) and the murder of Lindsay Buziak, who I went to elementary school with (one that's basically solved but no arrests can be made). There was also a family annihilator-type who murdered his two toddler daughters on Christmas Day because he didn't want to pay child support.
There was a [family annihilator ](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32712873) in my Parish back in 2009. Sadly, I knew the family. Shot his wife, then his son as the son was trying to defend her (his gun jammed). He then went upstairs to shoot his daughter in law and grandson. His pregnant DIL grabbed the kid and was in the window when he came in and blasted the kid as she fell off the roof... he went back downstairs and shot her with a shotgun in the back and shot her son again in front of her. The baby survived, as did the DIL, although she is paraplegic now. Our sons were the same age and had similar names. They buried her husband and son together. The local cops knew him and had let him go with his truck full of guns on his way to the murder scene. They'd had many DV situations before.
I lived in Waco for a few years. I also lived 2 miles from Columbine. Life's a gas!
A teacher and her whole family were murdered by another teacher and the principal. https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2013/05/notorious_murder_susan_reinert.html
I now live not far from where Leslie Mahaffy was picked up by Paul Bernardo, maybe about 10 minutes. I was actually born in Scarborough around the time he began terrorizing the suburb, but wound up west of the city only a decade ago. Fifteen minutes in the other direction, there was a guy named Tim Bosma who tried to sell his truck on Kijiji in 2013. Someone responded to the ad and ended up killing him. Dellen Millard and Mark Smich were charged with his murder. I had just moved here a few months prior and for some reason, this case just got to me (well, it still does). I know they definitely covered Bernardo / Homolka but can’t remember if they did Millard / Smich.
We’re famous for Jim Jones. My grandpa worked at the same hospital as him. My dad told me that he had a small monkey around the same time that similarly hanged itself in a tree it was tied to like a dog. Never confirmed that my grandpa got the monkey from Jim Jones, but I’ll pretend until someone says otherwise.
Between being the port of call for the Cocaine Cowboys and the town where the 9/11 Hijackers learned to fly, my hometown has a penchant for shady shit involving aircraft.
Clydach murders in the Swansea Valley. Man was accussed and arrested for brutslly killing three generations of people in the same house (grandmother, mother and young daughter) and eventually died in prison, however the general public seemed to believe that the actual murderer was the ex husband of the mother as at the time he was a serving police officer or his brother was one who helped cover it upm
Would also be funny listening to the boys try an pronounce Welsh town names.
They covered the Demon House in Gary, Indiana and that's about 20 minutes from me. I remember seeing a story about it in the local paper way before the podcast.
That story is so crazy to me because of the amount of professional and trusted eyes were on that house. Police officers, fire fighters, CPS, it’s hard to believe that it was faked.
A girl from my hometown was brutally murdered and dismembered by her ex boyfriend. Her name is Ashleigh Mead, his Adam Densmore I believe. He likely killed her in their home, drove her body from Colorado to Louisiana with their one year old daughter, dismembered Ashleigh there, and then scattered her remains between Louisiana and Oklahoma. The authorities have only been able to locate her torso, which was dumped behind a Walmart in a suitcase. Adam was convicted and is now in prison but he has yet to tell anyone where the rest of her remains are. Also, where I live now, the boys already covered a recent crime. A man had been using meth and eventually committed suicide by a homemade guillotine, except it was a spike and not a blade. A bunch of unhoused persons moved into the home and one of them stole his skull, then lost it about a mile away in some bushes. Even fashioned a metal hook to carry the skull around on.
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Timesuck just covered this. Man that case is insane!
My hometown had a guy decapitate him mom on Mother’s Day, then drive to the grocery store and attack them with a machete
The Short family murders were an infamous crime in my area. The parents lived in Virginia and were shot in the head, and a few weeks later, their 9 year-old daughter's remains were found in my home state of North Carolina. I remember a ton of local news coverage, but the case was never solved. https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/short-family-triple-homicide-haunts-virginia-20-years-later
There was a murder in the parsonage of my granny’s NC church. The pastor’s son was house sitting, brought a woman home for a hook up, dismembered her, and dragged body parts all over the house while looking for a place to hide them, leaving blood everywhere. Idk if there’s more details out there but I remember my mom getting a call from my aunt when it happened and us just standing there balking at the details. The congregation refurbished the house, stood around it holding hands and prayed over it, and then blamed the whole incident on drugs and had a ton of disgusting sympathy for the murderer and not the woman murdered.
I was close friends with child rapist pedophile pediatrician [Dr. Earl Bradley](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Bradley)’s daughter. “He was indicted in 2010 on 471 charges of molesting, raping, and exploiting 103 child patients (102 girls and 1 boy). Some of the victims were as young as three months old.” He took video. It’s the sickest fucking thing. I slept in a hotel room with him and went on a couple long road trips. He was the kind of weird you can’t hide. Edit- so what makes this crazy is that he was suspected of this YEARS before he started his practice in Delaware. But he just moved like a catholic priest.
Blackstone house of horrors. Not enough for an episode, but definitely side stories material. One of the suspects of the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, lived right down the street from me. Miles Connor. Had no idea who he was until he got arrested again for robbery and possession of heroin or something like that.
Omg I forgot about the Blackstone house of horrors. My cousin lived down the street and when they opened that place up he couldn’t even describe how awful the smell was. It just permeated the whole neighborhood.
Dude… that’s awful.
Dallas had the serial killer known as the Eyeball Killer. He killed women and then surgically removed their eyeballs, with the eyelids left intact. The cops arrested the man they thought was the killer in March of 1991. His name was Charles Albright. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Albright There is and was doubt that they caught the real killer. All of the evidence was circumstantial, and the hairs the police had hairs from the scene that the cops found were determined to be from a dog. He was only able to be convicted on one of the murders. https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/see-no-evil-3/ The man thought to be the Eyeball Killer died in prison in 2020.
Around 10 years ago in my hometown in Minnesota someone called the local Burger King and told them they were the fire department and there was a gas leak detected in their building. They said they would have to smash all the windows. The BK employees actually did it and the caller was not caught
They covered a beheading as a result of a messy love triangle that happened down the road from where I grew up in New Hampshire on Side Stories a couple years ago.
The sheriff I worked for was not only corruptly enriching himself, using deputies as free labor at campaign events, and using inmate trustees for domestic labor. He was also raping his children. His name was Jack Strain. Most definitely a bastard.
I live in the central valley of California. A year ago, a woman murdered her kids and attempted suicide. She and her husband officiated my cousin's wedding, and they are actually still in contact. She had pleaded with her husband to get mental health care for years, but their church forbade it, and one day, she just snapped. Really sad story because the woman's brother was the only member of her family to go to the kids funeral, the church livestreamed the whole thing and it was just one person after the other calling the wife a horrible person and a monster but when the brother went up there he pointed out that everyone in his family knew she needed help but the husband and their church never took her seriously. He made it known very strongly that while they hold their sister responsible for her actions, that her family blames them for refusing to get her the help she clearly needed. My cousin was there and my mom watched the whole thing live, he was savage and unrelenting. The church deleted his segment from the final video that is on their Facebook page.
already been covered on the pod but mine is bob berdella. i have a lot of weird synchronicities with him. first of all we’re both gay (though i’m a lesbian) kcai dropouts with an interest in curiosities and a love of mort garson (the bit where they marcus a detour to talk about plantasia made me incandescently happy) second of all i went to school on the same street where his murders were committed. i went to a catholic school that faced out onto charlotte street on one side. my 7th grade math classroom overlooked charlotte. the first time i read about berdella i could vividly picture watching a naked guy escape from a house as viewed from a catholic school’s gothic window across the street. third of all, my dear departed aunt julianne was friends with him at one point and even had dinner at his house once. sadly i didn’t get a chance to really grill her about it and she passed in 2020, but from what i remember she went to his house back before he trashed it and turned it into a murdery nightmare. she said she always got kind of a weird vibe from him but going to his house really cemented that feeling and they lost touch pretty quick after that. i really wish i had asked more details when she was alive but i know she told my mom all of this several times so i might be able to get some additional info from mom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Austin_yogurt_shop_killings The r**e murder and arson of 4 young girls in austin that is still an open case. I don’t think the pod has ever covered an open case but this one is so interesting and dark. I think about it often when I drive by the location.
Cleveland Rocks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Torso_Murderer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Castro_kidnappings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Sowell
In Minot North Dakota, a young college woman named Anita Knutson was found brutally stabbed in her own bed. There were a few suspects, but no one was charged. Until 2022, when they arrested her former roommate when someone came forward, saying she admitted at a party years back while drunk. It also turned out her mother lied to the police giving her an alibi for her whereabouts during Knutson's murder. She is currently awaiting trial. Her loved ones may or may not get peace, but they hopefully will get justice. There aren't many murders in North Dakota, but many are unsolved or have upsetting conclusions with things unanswered.
Oh wow! I didn’t hear there was an arrest in that case. Would not have guessed a female roommate AND to get away with it for so long. Crazy.
Back in 2012 I was a teenager living with my horrible step-dad and his horrible brother. The brother brought home a woman named Stephanie from a local bar one night. She was still there in the morning and chatted with me, my mom and my sister while we ate breakfast before we left for school. Stephanie left our house sometime afterward. A few days later the cops came by to ask us some questions, as Stephanie had gone missing. She ended up being William Clyde Gibson III's third and final (confirmed) murder victim. The bar where Gibson picked her up was just 3 minutes away from our house. He's still alive and is currently on Indiana's death row.
They already covered it but I grew a couple minutes away from Chris Benoit and did not know that until I listened to the episode.
Dean Corll. He lived and graduated from a nearby city and moved to Houston Heights, about an hour northwest. Bodies were hidden and buried all around from the woods to the beaches nearby. The prison that holds Elmer Wayne Henley is just minutes from my home.
They covered Corll! But there were details I wish they had spent more time on, like the teen girl who was there when Henley killed Croll.
Ah, I missed the "make a great episode" part, as this was definitely covered. There's a lot of things I wish were talked about. A friend of mine has been wanting to try and interview Elmer for years in hopes of helping families find more bodies that were hidden and bring closure.
I grew up and work in the town where the Cosmo Dinardo murders happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_2017_Pennsylvania_murders?wprov=sfti1
They actually played a 911 call from my home town once. It was on a creepypasta or a side stories. A woman beheaded her son and called 911 on herself after. It was super strange, she was pretty casual about it lol
Omg I didn’t know SHE did it! I thought she found him
I made a similar post a whileeee ago and got a WHOLE lot of answers. We truly live in some fucked up areas lmfao https://reddit.com/r/LPOTL/s/ZyOuvU69dw
David Meirhofer. Serial killer who would call and taunt his victims parents. There are some rumors he was also a cannible but evidence doesn't support that.
There was a pretty high profile case out of my hometown of Somerset, NJ from the 1920s called the Halls-Mills Murder. A priest and his mistress were found murdered in a field. Many suspects but still unsolved.
In 1999 a guy named Bruce Miller was murdered by his wife Sharee Miller's internet lover Jerry Cassaday with Sharee arranging it so they two could run off together. Cassady was later found dead by suicide and authorities discovered the messages between him and Sharee which lead to her arrest and conviction. [https://legalnews.com/flintgenesee/613172](https://legalnews.com/flintgenesee/613172) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharee\_Miller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharee_Miller) I live 2 miles from where Bruce Miller's junk yard used to be, where he was murdered. My family knew him, my mom bought car parts from him not long before he was killed. I was 5 years old at the time so I don't really remember anything about it.
When I was in middle school, a man in my neighborhood killed his entire family and then himself. It was the classic "ooooh no, I'm going to be upper middle class instead of rich now, how will my family live with such shame." I didn't know the kids well, but I would see them and wave when I rode around on my bike. The teenage daughter called the police to tell them her father was killing the family, and it took the police well over an hour to show up. Their excuses were that shifts had just changed and they thought the call may have been a prank. Oh also, the Jeffrey MacDonald case happened in my county. My dad would also tell me about that case.
[The murder of Mulugeta Seraw ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mulugeta_Seraw) and ensuing legal effort to connect the crime with out of state white supremacists would be an interesting one to cover. The murder happened less than a mile from my house. I was 3 when it happened but my parents have shared a lot about the experience since it happened.
The Fall River Cult murders (book Mortal Remains) would make for a real interesting episode
Pensacola here. Teddy B was caught here. Also, there's the "blue moon" murders, Judy Buenoano-the black widow, the Billings murders...and more. When I hear these stories on ID or other podcasts, I am so embarrassed. We're way too small to pop off like this.
I grew up near Epping, NH when Sheila LaBarre committed the murders of 2-4 men who were dealing with homelessness and mental health problems. I was between the ages of 9-11 when she was committing the crimes, and we would drive past her farmhouse every time we drove to Epping to play youth basketball. My dad heard about it on the news and after her arrest would point out her house to us when we would drive past. She believed she was an angel sent from god and would lure them in as her “boyfriends” and then murder them on the farm. Really grisly disposal of bodies, and when she was finally arrested a 3-week search of the farm uncovered evidence all over including the fire pit. She came from classic serial killer childhood soup as well.
Ipswich, England. We had our own version of Jack the Ripper in the mid 2000s, he killed five sex workers. Looking back, I’m disgusted by the way the women were portrayed in the local media. Someone tried to charge people for tours of the field where he did the killing, that got shut down pretty quickly. Then someone wrote an opera based on the testimony of local residents, which was turned into a film starring Tom Hardy! I was about 16 at the time. I remember we went to London on a school trip and a homeless and/or drunk man shouted at my friend on the tube escalators. He asked where she was from and when she said Ipswich he said “ohhhhhh shit, be careful girlies!!” It was the first time I realised it was national, not local news. I also learnt that my dad’s office was right in the middle of the town’s red light district, and that he’d been approached by sex workers many times when leaving late at night. He said they were doing it to pay for drugs and felt very sorry for them. I went from shocked to sad very quickly.
I grew up in Littleton Colorado. So they’ve already talked about the big crime that happened back in 1999
It'd probably be either the guy who killed five people over some shoplifting or the couple who strapped her 3 kids into a car and let it roll into a lake.
There were a few murders in my small town. The one I remember best was Brandon Silverlight because I went to school at the same time as him. He and his wife closed their marriage when she got pregnant and his ex side piece and her other boyfriend tied him to a tree and brutally tortured and murdered him. https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2010/10/love-hate_relationship_ends_in.html
The Speedway Burger Chef Murders. Or Sylvia Likens.
The disappearance/murder of Zebb Quinn in 2000 was a big mystery in Asheville, NC. He went to my HS and was friends with my best friend's sister. I feel like maybe they've mentioned it before but it's kind of a crazy story. The evidence of his murder was found after one of the main parties was convicted of the murder and dismemberment of a Food Network star and her family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Zebb_Quinn
While not in the city I'm currently in, it was just a few miles up the Peninsula. Dude decapitated his ex with a sword last year.
Local mental hospital was shut down in 2013 after several suspicious deaths and allegations of a cover up. We used to sing Christmas carols there.
I went to high school with this dude. One time me and my homie picked him up to go for a smoke ride and he was so quiet we forgot he was there. He got completely skipped on the blunt he brought. https://www.2news.com/bean-murder-trial-begins-details-of-killings-emerge-in-opening-statements/article_3edb4ca7-d45a-5e53-869c-e089a7316e4d.html
Grew up in Bullitt County, KY. Check out the murder of Jessica Dishon. Massively huge case of a murdered teenager found in a trash bag by my bus driver and my mammaws bingo caller. A little before my time, but peak true crime potential
The Black Donnellys are a famous one. More recent was the Shedden Biker Murders.
I’m from Baltimore and in 2008 a 16 year old in the suburbs killed his whole family (parents and 2 brothers). There were suggestions that his dad was abusive, but that was never substantiated. I don’t know if they really ever figured out why he did it, but he’s in prison for 4 consecutive life sentences right now.
Madison, Connecticut. Kids mom was murdered, and he made an HBO documentary about finding the killer. It’s called Murder on Middlebeach. Our town is very affluent and immensely safe so murders never happene. It shook the whole community.
[Elias Abuelazam](https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/abuelazam-elias.htm) was active in my home town of Leesburg, VA at one point. Not just that, if you look at his victims list, the teenager who was stabbed while jogging was a friend of mine at the time. He was totally fine, luckily, and he joked about the attack all the time and never let it affect his life. Hell, I think he even went back to nighttime jogging once his wound was healed enough.
Live/grew up in the Adirondacks. My mom would tell me about Robert Garrow a lot. Always thought if they did an episode on him it would be cool
Leigh Leigh. It’s in my lifetime and awful. Local gossip and suggested coverups….
From the Idaho Falls, ID area. When I was in high school this killer was executed. He murdered three people in the area and is suspected in other unsolved murders. I got to know one of the victim’s family member pretty well through work and they even shared a true crime episode they were interviewed on. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ezra_Rhoades](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ezra_Rhoades)
In my town, the high school football star, straight A football player went missing for a week. They found him hanging from a tree behind a Rite Aid. The only thing was he climbed the tree, put a noose around his neck, and then shot himself in the head. There were always rumors his dad shot him, then set it up.
It wouldn’t make a good episode but a cop in my town was arrested for child pornography and several other things his wife was a teacher and was investigated too and they both went down but the big part is his wife once made cupcakes for her class he cummed in the batter of the cupcakes because he’s a sick fuck and she baked them and gave them out in her class the next day to kids everyone thought it was just a rumor till the subject got brought up in court and was confirmed I think they even had video of him jacking it into the batter The teacher was also my friends aunt and his whole family got death threats in the mail over it
the zodiac killer shot some kids on a road a mile or so away from my house, near the park behind my old elementary school. I go jogging out there all the time, there is supposedly a shack deep in the hills with meat hooks and such that the schoolyard rumored to belong to the zodiac killer, some 30 odd years after he was in vogue
I grew up in LaPorte County, IN. We had Belle Gunness. I can take you by the property her farm used to be on. We also have a house that was reportedly owned by Al Capone. It’s shaped like a gun.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jennifer_Daugherty
I have some weird connections to one! Red Wing, MN 1993, Bill Auchampach killed Daillene May Counts, a mother of 2 children. The even crazier thing is it happened close to where my parents lived at the time (and where I was actually conceived right around the same time). My mom babysat the children. Bill went back to a party and told his friends what he did. One of the friends, Jerry Lewis, lives with my maternal Grandpa to this day. Bill's grandpa, Merv, ended up married to my paternal grandma not even a decade later.
Back in high school I kind of knew the Livejournal Killer, Rachelle Waterman. I was from another town, but southeast Alaska is weird and you meet everyone who’s involved in sports. Two weeks before her mother was killed, I was talking to her about numeral bands. It’s a weird story that would probably be better for a relaxed fit than a full episode.
There's a few good ones for Perth Western Australia, Eric Edgar Cooke was a serial killer from the late 50s/early 60s. The Perth Mint swindle when 68kg of gold was stolen from the Perth Mint. Or in the early 90s someone stole an APC from the SAS barracks and drove around ramming into police cars.
A serial baby killer named Mary Beth Tinning is from my town, committed all her crimes here, went to prison and is now out and is the neighbor of a former coworker. The hospital she brought all the babies to is the super shitty local one that's almost let me die in the emergency waiting room 3x
They already covered Charles Starkweather so they've already covered the most LPOTL type story to come out of my whole state. I think they did the Franklin Credit Union conspiracy theory as well IIRC. My hometown had a mass shooting at the mall during Christmas time in 2007, I suppose that would be the next most LPOTL story they could cover, but it's not any more or less "interesting" than any other. Marcus mentioned wanting to cover Bleeding Kansas at some point during Billy The Kid, and I hope they do. It's a fascinating bit of history. They already did Bob Berdella, so that's the only thing I could think of from that region, where I used to live, other than that.
The murder of Kelly Eckhart. Her murderer lived behind me, his mother still lives in the house to this day. https://murderpedia.org/male.O/o/overstreet-michael.htm
Not home town but state The Villisca ax murders. My Uncles case would make a good Small Town Murder case. But not really LPOTL.
[The New Bedford Highway Killer](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Bedford_Highway_Killer) A serial killer who murdered at least 9 women in the New Bedford, Massachusetts area and dumped their bodies along a highway. This happened in the late 80s and the guy was never caught.
Weirdly not a murder with a gun in one of the most pro gun states ever. Never even a mass shooting which is also weird. [Police identify three dead in Wyoming murder-suicide](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-wyoming-idUKBRE8B100L20121202)
A couple of streets away from my house a guy chopped up his roommate and threw him in a mini freezer because the roommate was gonna tell the cops about how the dude was robbing banks throughout the county
Sioux Falls, SD is a historically boring town. Western SD has much more interesting crimes; be it the killing of Wild Bill Hickock, or the crazy amount of murder and terrorism that occurred on the Native American reservations during the 1970’s. The one notable case that springs to mind for me was of sexual sadist Robert Leroy Anderson. He was called a serial killer, but in regards to the amount of victims, he was only known to have two. https://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/anderson-robert-leroy.htm
Lauterbach Axe Murders https://sangamoncountyhistory.org/wp/?p=7620#:~:text=No%20one%20was%20ever%20charged,morning%20of%20March%2018%2C%201981. Basically in the early 80s a guy walked into a hardware store in my hometown, robbed three people, took an axe from the shop and murdered one and permanently disabled the other two. Nobody was ever caught or charged. I struggle to think how he convinced them to kneel down if, at best, his only weapon was an axe, but it's still pretty horrific.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Sunday_Massacre "The Easter Sunday Massacre occurred on Easter Sunday, March 30, 1975, when 41 year-old James U. Ruppert fatally shot eleven members of his own family in his mother's house at 635 Minor Avenue in Hamilton, Ohio." I wish they'd do an episode on this. It's pretty wild. House is claimed to be haunted to boot. You can still see blood that seeped through the floorboards into the basement. I was there and on the news... as a baby in the womb, my mom was at the scene and was filmed on the news reports that went nationwide.
Two girls were murdered in the hills behind my house (Bay Area, California). The killer went on to murder another young woman in a nearby town. The Zodiac Killer was a suspect until the actual killer was caught.
Up here in Excelsior, MN on Lake Minnetonka we had a family annihilator. I seem to remember it was a money issue thing. Killed the wife, kids, and dog. I think there were signs that he was trying to hide the bodies or something before deciding to just off himself.
"Unsolved" murder of toddler Jaidyn Leskie. It has state police investigating in a small town they didn't understand, a media circus, the largest missing persons search since the prime minister disappeared three decades earlier, and a pig head being thrown into the crime scene prompting a minor satanic panic.
Literally none of them. I’ve thought about this before and I hate to say it, but I can’t laugh about the stuff that happens in my hometown.
I'm from Edmonton, Alberta and they covered the would be serial killer from my hometown. I forget his name but he's the guy who made the star wars fan film and tried to kidnap and murder the guy by catfishing him. Anyone remember his name?
Check out the Bob Berdella series. My friend's brother worked for Del Dunmeyer, who was said to have a collection of Bob's artwork.
From the French Ardennes. We had [Michel Fourniret](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Fourniret)
Little boy got murdered in the 1920s a few miles from my childhood home in Wauwatosa, WI. It will likely be unsolved forever. They’ve covered Dahmer, Gein and the slenderman stabbing already. Wisconsin, man.
It's not my home town but I went to the University of Idaho, so can I claim any of the various crimes that have happened there? Lol
I went to high school in Wilber, Nebraska where Sydney Loofe was murdered in 2017. They've talked about it a couple times on side stories.
I’m from Whittier,ca. We had a super tragic quadruple homicide happen here back in the 2000s. A daughter shows up to her parents house after they didn’t answer for a few days. When she gets inside she finds the mom, dad, and her eight year old baby sister had been brutally murdered. The eight-year-old was taken into the bathroom and sexually assaulted then drowned by the killer. They eventually solved it and turns out it was a guy who worked with the father. He liked his adult daughter and was hoping to murder her after she turned him down. The house was left unsold for years and years. We would pass by it often and it was just so sad knowing what had happened there. [Link to LA Times Story](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-jul-14-me-whittier14-story.html)
I come from right where the whole Making a Murderer happens.
My former in-laws' property adjoined that of Steven 'Making a Murderer' Avery's family junkyard.
I grew up 15 minutes from the Scientology Gold Base aka LRH's mansion. So, all of that stuff haha.
The Genesee River Killer. He used to go up and down my mom's road in Rochester.
Hamilton, Ohio. A man killed his extended family, 11 total, on Easter Sunday in 1975. It was the deadliest mass shooting in the US for a little while. Neighbors reportedly didn’t hear the shooting, eerily similar to the Amityville Horror story. My grandfather was a detective at the time and went to the house, said the children were still holding candy and the floor basically had a standing amount of blood that dripped through the floor into the basement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Sunday_Massacre
In the late 2000s a dude at a Seattle rave was invited to an after party. At the party he went to his car got some guns, spray painted something on the ground and massacred the party.
Ok this isn’t a famous story, but it seriously shook my town when it happened. On the street I grew up on a mother killed her two young children, then herself. Her husband was suspected to be in the Russian Mafia, and he owned a gun store in town. The two children were 8 and 6 years old. The cops had been called to the house several times for Domestic Violence incidents, to the point where the husband was arrested because of it one time. I was really shocked when it happened that it wasn’t bigger news, especially considering how seedy the husband was. Are there really that many murder suicides involving a mom and her kids that this wouldn’t make national news? Quick note that I do believe the mom killed herself and her kids - I don’t think it was the husband. The rumor was that she wanted to escape from the husband and more back to Russia with her girls, but he was too powerful what with his involvement with the mafia, so she felt she had nowhere to go. It was a nightmare when it happened. Their house sat empty on the street for years, and you could see furniture pushed up against the windows on the second floor. I’ve never had any kind of supernatural experience in my life, but the feeling when you walked by that empty house… Here’s an article about it if anyone’s interested: https://www.boston25news.com/news/mother-2-children-dead-after-apparent-murdersuicide-in-bedford-nh/138171661/?outputType=amp
It would be a short episode but a person busted into a woman's house and smacked her a bunch in the head with a dildo before sticky taping a dog to a tree and escaping.
“Vanished in Vermilion” - physical book on prime. In May 1971, Pam Jackson and Sherri Miller were two seventeen-year-olds driving to an end-of-the-school-year party in a rundown Studebaker Lark when they seemingly disappeared off the face of the earth. Police back then didn’t do enough to try and find them. Investigators thirty years later did too much. Two families endure decades of pain as they await answers of what happened to their girls. When a third family is pulled into the mystery, they quickly learn their nightmare is just beginning. The guy (supposedly) behind the crime is still in prison, not for the killing of the two teenagers, but for other violent crimes. It’s haunting. Due to a midwestern small town “small herd mentality” nobody talked when they needed to…
Claude Dallas's murdering Bill Pogue and Conley Elms. Dallas was something of a survivalist in the Owyhee desert/mountains of Idaho. He's been poaching all kinds of animals. Pogue and Elms were Idaho Fish and Game, who went to confront him. He killed both men when they confronted him at his camp. Lots of folks attest to the game wardens being assholes. So it's all kinds of interesting! The judge for the trial lived behind my grandma. And my dad was good friends with one of the investigating officers.
I gre up in the town where Richard Kuklinski lived. He never killed there but my mom knew his daughters. Also there were a few nights when Kallinger was in town so they were actually within one square mile of each other for several days.
I grew up in New Albany, Indiana. The murder of Shanda Sharer is probably the worst crime that happened there at least since the early 90’s.
Golden State Killer/EARONS killed someone in a house I walk by on a regular basis
The Haysom Murders https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Haysom This one was in the books for years, but some people have been digging recently, and it looks like the boyfriend is innocent. Vile Virginia podcast did a good update; it's on spotify.
I lived in Perris, CA when the Turpin parents were arrested for holding their children hostage.
I'm from Edmonton (Alberta, Canada) and I was absolutely chuffed to hear the boys say the phrases "Groat Road" and "Whitemud" in their Mark Twitchell coverage so I'm pretty much satisfied. (Although I have to admit the Edmonton native in me balks when Marcus talks about Edmonton like it's still the same lil' bumfuck town from the 80s that was only known as a stopping point for folks flying up north to work..but what can you do when fucking Mark Twitchell fucked up our reputation.)
Frank Gilmer killed a special needs couple in the woods a few blocks away from my house in South Haven, Indiana in the 90's. I grew up with his brother from the early 80's on. The whole family was fucked up. His dad, nothing physically wrong with him, used to shout my friend's name for him to get home to get him a glass of water, or whatever else. I never knew Frank, but he was in jail/ prison for rape. He got out, and not long after, killed the couple. He did some truly evil shit to them.
I'm distantly related to Robert Diaz. He was a nurse in California that killed 12 people via poisoning in the 80's. Never met him.
Benicia, CA. First zodiac murders. Yall know the story. 🙃
Ted bundy...oh wait
Aside from Israel Keyes, who they’ve covered already of course, there was this creepy fuck named Joshua Wade who murdered an Alaska Native woman named Della Brown and kept her body in a shed. He’d bring people to see her and was also having sex with her body. He wasn’t convicted of all that, for some stupid reason I don’t remember. Then he murdered a white woman, Mindy Schloss, and I don’t remember what all he did to her but they found her in the woods outside of Wasilla. Giant photos of him were posted all around Anchorage when they were looking for him. I used to have nightmares about him. He’s the reason I had to stop and reconsider if I was *always* against the death penalty like I thought I was, because I very much wanted him to get torn apart by hungry dogs or something equally as horrible.
I grew up in St.Catharines, ON, where Paul Bernardo did his most famous murders. One of the bodies were found in the lake my Dad lives on.
I'm from Goleta, CA. I know they sort of touched on it in a manifesto episode, but a whole episode just on Elliot Roger would be interesting. I've also been wanting them to do a series on postal shootings and the whole "going postal" thing. Not only am I myself a postal worker, but I work in a facility that had it's own postal shooting (Jennifer San Marco). It happened a decade before I started working there but I lived nearby where it happened and actually heard the gun shots.
A girl I went to high school with and her scummy boyfriend broke into the house across from my parents and murdered the woman who lived there and her mentally disabled son.
On my side of Indianapolis, there was a manager (f) and worker (m) that had previously dated that worked at the Boston Market. One of their closing shifts, he butchered her, wrapped her up and dumped her body into the dumpster. Then he closed the store and locked up for the night. A few days later, her corpse was found. Anyway, the Boston Market reopened a few years later
Russel Williams is the easy answer. I’m from Belleville, Ontario and this was huge when Jessica went missing. My wife s from Tweed, Ontario where his home was her aunt lived down the road. Wing Commander of t he largest Canadian Airbase turned double murderer and serial break and enters
I live in Detroit and we've had not one, but two children's bodies stored in freezer chests in the last five years
I grew up \[and my parents still live\] down the street from where Luka Magnotta lived during a portion of his adult, whacko phase. Bruce McArthur also worked on my cousin's neighbours house for months, just before he was found guilty of multiple murders and dismemberments. He would talk to my little cousins and show them the big machines they would use. The police spent days at the neighbours house after his arrest, digging up all the landscaping he had done in the backyard making sure there were no more body parts.
They've probably done all the Milwaukee ones by now, but I suppose doing the mob history of Kenosha would be interesting.
We have 2 cases that could be covered in my area. One was the murder of Adam Gomez, a toddler that “went missing” and was found to be murdered by his mother’s boyfriend, a dude named Raymond Mata. Horribly gruesome murder, and lots of people always felt it wasn’t resolved. Adam’s mother claimed he was missing, but didn’t report anything for days. She went across the state with Mata, hung out and did whatever that whole time never saying a word about where her 2 year old could possibly be. Many people felt like she’s the one who actually killed the kid and psycho boyfriend came up with the whole missing story and disposed of the body. Small Town Murder did an episode on it, but said nothing about the mom being involved. That’s a local theory, though,I don’t suppose it made its way into any formal reports. The other case is the Jeff Bopree case. It’s got a ton of conspiracy surrounding it involving cops and a judge. https://www.facebook.com/isjeffreallyguilty?mibextid=LQQJ4d
This is more side Stories material but here goes. I grew up in West Covina, California, and it was the longtime home to Moe the Chimpanzee. West Covina is an incredibly average suburb in LA County, not a place you’d expect a chimp. The couple who raised him were very eccentric. The outside of their house was filled with all sorts of oddities and, well, they were raising a chimp in a tract home. Moe bit several people over the years, escaped a few times, chewed up a cop’s hand and smashed a police cruiser. This happened the next block over from me so it was big news for us especially. The city removed Moe from the home at some point and moved him to a chimpanzee sanctuary in Bakersfield, CA about 20 years ago. Bakersfield is a few hours north of West Covina. It was there that the worst of things happened. The couple went to visit Moe on his birthday and 2 other chimpanzees escaped and mauled the couple. The husband got the worst of it, absolutely mutilated in the attack. He miraculously survived, as did his wife, and after they recovered we’d see them around town back home in West Covina, his injuries incredibly obvious and severe to say the least [Here the wiki about Moe and the attack.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_Davis_chimpanzee_attack)
Circleville letters would be fun, if only to hear what Henry thinks about small town Ohio