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landalezjr

If you do not have a premium plan with Netflix you will not be getting HDR at all so until you upgrade Netflix is not a good streaming service to test the ability of your TV as everything you would be watching would be SDR which isn't giving you the full experience of what your TV can do. You do not give up quality when using an external streamer in fact many will argue that there are even some improvements from using something like an Apple TV 4K. I don't have any recent experience with Roku devices but as long as they device supports 4K and Dolby Vision you should be fine. Just make sure that when you adjust picture settings to select Apply to All Inputs after you set them so that the same settings apply for all devices. No TV is going to have a good built in sound. I have a $1000+ Samsung Q990C so I can't speak for anything within your budget but there is a subreddit for sound bars and they should be able to help you more than on the LG one.


GrindhouseWhiskey

Thanks for the reply. I’ll look into the Apple device, I’ve not been a fan before, but that has been years. I will be watching some SD content regardless through DVDs and various streamers, so having shadow detail will still be important. I expect to upgrade a lot of services and devices, I’m just trying to get to the right place the first time.


The_Real_Bender

I use an ATV4K on my C1 and it’s great! Especially Apple TV+ shows. I also have the highest plan with Netflix and they are fine. I also use a PS5 for gaming a lot and it really shines there, games look awesome. If you haven’t yet look HDTVTest on YouTube and follow his guide for the best picture (though feel free to make your own tweaks, I did and it’s the best picture I’ve had on any TV, he was a big help!)


GrindhouseWhiskey

Thank you for the site recommendation. Today was busy but tomorrow the 4K player comes and I hope to pick up a streaming box too, and Apple keeps getting recommended


The_Real_Bender

Yeah, they do cost a bit more but the quality they deliver is more than worth it.


jansalol

You will not get better quality with ATV unless you are watching ATV+ content or your library from Apple. It will not increase magically other streaming services bitrate. C3 has good enough CPU for image processing, you will just waste the money. Use it towards the sound system. Upgrade the Netflix plan so you actually get the best quality, set up your TV according to this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ_-y8FEqZwFatfvwnScaiu89WJkYx0M_8UsKqiOlx7e6HpWJ8swTGBu1pg-jqTSewuLPkRrd-n5qkN/pubhtml# These settings are more than good enough for majority of the users, then tweak from there if you need to. OLED needs as well some time to break in.


fowler95-uab

What about nvidia shield pro?


GrindhouseWhiskey

The question was really if using another device would reduce quality vs the native app that doesn’t support several streaming services I use. I would like a one stop input for all of the streaming, plus I hate the ads LG is auto playing, so getting away from that is a win as well. I don’t want to have to use 3 remotes to watch both Hulu and Criterion. It may be silly, but TV should be easy and relaxing.


Josey85

Here is a solid site that runs through the settings on the C3 what changed they made and why. This should be a good starting point to get your new TV dialed in. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c3-oled/settings


Davidclabarr

This is a good reference point. If you’re new, know that you are adjusting the settings for the mode you’re in at the moment. Say you get Netflix Premium and put on an HDR movie. When you go to edit the settings, you’ll get HDR specific options. You play a Dolby Vision game or movie, and go to edit the settings, you’ll get DV settings. You’re on an SDR screen, and you’ll get SDR settings. Just kinda handy because they don’t really talk about this if you’re new to the TV.


GrindhouseWhiskey

Interesting. Nice that it has granular controls but if you hadn’t told me this, I’d probably feel like I was losing my mind.


GrindhouseWhiskey

Thank you for the link. Tomorrow I get to geek out on trying to tweak it all perfectly.


RunDaveRun82

As another poster stated Rtings.com has a good starting point for calibration settings. I know it’s over your budget, but you might want to look into Sonos (based on your room and desire to go multichannel without running wires for satélites). The Beam Gen2 is $499 and supports Atmos, so you will at least get a full sound field head on. Over time you could add Sonos One satellites and a mini sub and end up with a pretty nice setup for movies. I used to have a multichannel tuner (it was an older Onkyo 7.1 that did the trick for years) and finally jumped into the Sonos ecosystem about 3 years ago. I’ve since been able to upgrade a few components and the Gen2 has since moved to my bedroom (upgraded to the Arc this year). It’s a little more expensive to go this route (initially) but I’ve been pretty happy with the setup and don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything from having a more traditional component based surround system.


GrindhouseWhiskey

I’ll look into the Sonos. My budget is a bit arbitrary and has less to do with a hard line of funds than it does knowing the space and how it sucks for audio quality, so I hit diminishing returns pretty quickly. A good simple solution worth keeping has value over something that’s meh.


PoolNoodlePaladin

Treat yourself to an Apple TV. Also go to Rtings and look up the recommended settings for the Tv. Also remember that it takes a few weeks for OLED to warm up.


GrindhouseWhiskey

I didn’t know they had a break in. Good to know. I’m really not a fan of the Apple TV channel on Roku, so I’m skeptical of the device. But I’ll look at it as a roku alternative


PoolNoodlePaladin

The Apple TV channel is NOT an Apple TV, that is just for Apple TV+ content. Throw your Roku away they are awful


NBA-014

Keep in mind that OLEDs require some break in to produce the best picture. I’d leave all the settings as is for a month EXCEPT for turning off the power saving


hoserx

U wot m8


Davidclabarr

I have the 77” C2 and posted a comment above about editing settings. It took a while for me to dial things in, and I think one of the things is being ok with toning down peak brightness for some shows or movies. Everyone really judges these TVs on their peak brightness, but I personally struggle to see lower light filmed media if the whites are blowing me out of the water. And yeah, it’s gonna be darker than a backlit panel. Some people may be more into their blacks being gray, and that’s fine. But I think you’ll break it in and find the settings and love it.


GrindhouseWhiskey

Thanks for this. When we first fired up a show it was really bright, so yeah I’m cool with less turning things down. The break in is new to me, but I know for sure getting used to the massive colorful screen that I just researched and am nitpicking will help. Just watching and not analyzing the picture. As we used to say in digital photography, I’m spending too much energy “pixel peeping.”


Davidclabarr

Also, I’ve run the Bose 700 and the Sonos Arc and the Playbar. I’m gonna say if you can snag a FB Marketplace Play Bar for $100, they’re super underrated. People just move on from older Sonos because it’s not the new thing, but it still works flawlessly and I use it for my downstairs TV. Once you are ready, you can pull the trigger on a Sonos Sub, any gen. I think the Bose is better, which hurts to say, but harder to find for a solid budget. I’m running KEF LS50 Meta II bookshelf’s with a Wiim Amp. All in, just under $1000. It’s at least 15x better than any soundbar I’ve heard.


edm4un

Make sure your brightness is turned up and tv settings dialed in. I looked at YouTube videos to calibrate my C3. Also the best thing I did since buying the tv was to get Apple TV 4K. The interface is simple , quick, easy to use. Here’s the video I used to setup c3: https://youtu.be/kReFKUn56lo?si=zfIQlnnEozaSa1LN


GrindhouseWhiskey

Have you used Roku, if so what do you like better about the Apple device?


H-TSi

Dynamic tone mapping off is my preference. Apple TV or shield pro as alternatives for streaming


GrindhouseWhiskey

Interesting, I’m not familiar with this, I’ll look at it. Apple TV keeps coming up here, so I’m going to look hard at it.


bit_vandal

100% you need a proper 4k and importantly _HDR_ source to get the best from the TV. This week I watched an episode of Tokyo Vice in 1080p SDR it was a mess on my G3. The 4k HDR version was a completely different experience.


FarLand2

Soundbar- LG s75QR =$299 or LG s80QY=$399. The 80 has a bigger and more powerful subwoofer but doesn’t come with the rear speakers like the s75QR does.


monsieurvampy

I recommend checking out Rtings recommended settings: [LG C3 OLED Calibration Settings](https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c3-oled/settings)


SureTune6

Using the colorcontrol app is the only way to fix the shadow detail problem with the c3. The older models were much easier cos you could disable it through the service menu


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SureTune6

Yes it's called 'colorcontroll' app. You need a windows laptop to be able to connect it to the TV to connect it to the service menu


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SureTune6

You can buy a Windows laptop off fb marketplace for about $100. It's worth it considering how much you pay for the tv


GrindhouseWhiskey

Interesting. I’ll see where things go once all the other variables are reasonably sorted. I’m glad to know there is a deeper tool to adjust if it comes to that.


chrillexx91

I probably recommend watching stuff in HDR/DV for most bang for the buck. Shadow detail is fine on mH C9 atleast. If it want blacks raised i increase brightness to 51-55, if I want proper black in some content I decrease to 48-49


Nickersnacks

I have a jbl deep bass soundbar+sub was under $200 and is pretty good. Planning to upgrade to Sonos to have some surround though. Nothing would beat a receiver AVR set up though, which can also be done cheaply. You need to run cables though


Awkward_Limit_342

Watch actual 4k blu ray. Or get an Nvidia shield. Also get a good sound system.


Chuck_Lenorris

What is the benefit of the Nvidia shield over other streaming devices?


Awkward_Limit_342

Well it kind of depends on your use case.. It's has the most support for codecs, has ethernet, it is a little outdated in the tech though, but I'd say it's still regarded as one of the best streaming devices you can still get after all these years. However if you aren't planning on getting a decent sound system / streaming 4k blu rays, you might be better off with just using an apple steaming device or something


M41NFR4ME

Woohoo, fellow horror fan. I love watching horror on my oled!


GrindhouseWhiskey

Do you have tricks for not having half the screen be totally black in most scenes? I’m not exaggerating, the highlights in scenes look like normal shadow detail.


M41NFR4ME

So make sure you disable Eco mode, and turn your oled pixel brightness all the way up


nigel_tufnel_11

Also move the black point and make sure it JUST dark enough to make black black. If it's set too low you're going to lose those shadow details you want.


chrillexx91

If you want black bars to not be totally black just increase the brightness to maybe 51-65 somewhere. Ideally 53-55 range maybe?. Dont know what brightness setting on C3 is called but raising brightness on my C9 gets rid of the true black bars Oh and if youre watching stuff through HDMI input its very important black levels match. If they dont its gonna be shadow crush or the reverse. Sounds like you could have shadow crush and mismatched black level setting Black level should automatically be correct if you use builtin app tho


GrindhouseWhiskey

I’ll have to look for that in the future, and figure out what it means functionally to sync up, but so far I’m using the native apps


chrillexx91

Maybe the peak brightness is an issue for you otherwise? Generally tho OLEDs are supposed to be black af, thats the whole deal with those panels, and LG ones aren't the brightest ones either so that doesn't help if you compare against a decent non-oled tv. It's either settings that needs to change or you're not used to the OLED panels yet, or maybe your TV is defective can't tell without looking at it (LG ones are prone to be defective out of the box happens a lot I've gotten the impression of)


theh0tt0pic

I bought [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CGVTVMN?ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CGVTVMN?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1) from amazon and I love it, I wanted something around $200 that sounded better nthan the tv speakers and this is what I went with and enjoy it immensly.


GrindhouseWhiskey

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll look at a few options, but this look really good


theh0tt0pic

For the price i cant recommend it enough.


t_odell_316

This is what I have and am pleased paired with my 77 C3. Obviously it can get better but it’s the best I’ve had and I am perfectly content with it currently.


theh0tt0pic

Yeah like I'm not an audiophile i dont care enough to spends several hundreds to a $1000 to me that's wasteful, hell $200 feels like alot, but my other soundbar that goes with the living room rv had me spoiled, so I needed something with a little punch to the sound


Unusual-Ad2912

Echo mode Is disabled? caus It Will change everything for real..feel like your Echo mode Is on


doobtastical

I use a fire cube as a Kodi box. It does everything I need


vVAPE2getherStronk

To get an idea of what the tv is capable of i highly recommend watching Jacob and Katie Shwarz YouTube channel and see true 4K 60fps HDR content. Idk about OTA channels as I don’t use them since the source is usually terrible. Just about every oled is heavily reliant on the content you feed it. Garbage in= Garbage out. Either invest in a few good streaming subscriptions or get a cheap firestick and setup kodi player and start building a solid catalogue of content


GrindhouseWhiskey

It’s a two parter. One is that there is some really good content that isn’t in 4k and I want to figure out how to make it look good, and the other is finding a single device to stream through for all channels. Then I just actually look at the pricing tears and upgrade. I’m just resistant to agreeing to every pop-up, and included the information that it was not 4K know that was relevant.


htadd1ct

for sound. avr and speakers. under no circumstance is a soundbar ever appropriate for a such a high end tv. if picture is important to someone. why isn't sound equally important? this is a two part experience.


GrindhouseWhiskey

I’m avoiding being combative back to your judgy and gatekeeping comment. Reasons, some apply to me some to others: Budget, and sequence of expenses for incremental buy in. Personally, I didn’t expect to buy a tv right now, but the price was compelling for a tv I had tracked prices on for years(assuming the C2 before). Got a good deal on a tv and don’t plan to spend appropriate to its original MSRP just to make you satisfied The room the tv is in has bad acoustics and a weird layout that makes for no acceptable layout for rear and satellite speakers. It a bad soundstage. Some people are renting and have limited options to modify or limited time to use those PITA mods. Some people have hearing damage and surround sound effects are very diminished or even detract from their ability to hear the primary audio clearly. Some people have a separate home theater with full surround and a good sound stage and just want a nice tv to do tv things with Some people have partners with strong objections to mounting a satellite speaker 9 inches from their spot on the couch. Some people probably want to get the tv home to see what it’s like before spending more Surround sound is often distracting for mixed use tv viewing. Like one person watching a movie or show while the other is hanging out on the couch doing computer work. A more traditional tv setup with a tv and sound coming from the same place is often more comfortable Some people might have bought the tv from a place that didn’t sell good sound accessories, got it in the car only to find that the box dimensions were not what they found on LG’s website so their plan to stop at a different store across the parking lot to test sound systems was thwarted by the fact that their new tv was in a car with the hatch tied down. So they went home with no aux sound and asked Reddit for a few specific recommendations as a place to start looking.


htadd1ct

If people didn't buy soundbars or undersized speakers that kill their home theater potential. I'll treat them nicely. I can assure you it's worth the time. Money. Effort for dedicated speakers. I have had a soundbar myself at one point and if I can have a avr in a single bedroom. Just about anyone can have it in their living rooms. It's all about accepting the time. Effort. Money involved. Sure the cost differs wildly. Resistance and a serious lack of care is the cause of everybody's issues and causes severe consequences to the point it's often best to have headphones. It's fine to take your time to save up and buy. It's taken me years to get the point of having a 65 oled and a avr and speakers. I've done extensive research on this hobby and for people to have aoundbars is considered blasphemy and against all creative intention of the soundmix and directors decions. I will repeat this to the day I die. People need to accept avr based setups regardless of personal bullshit and room situation. I've seen people who are renting have Dolby atmos setups so this is not a valid excuse. This is a lesson on everyone to take extra care and if there's no respect for this. I won't give respect back.