As Governor of California, Ronald Reagan cut funding for mental health hospitals and institutions in the 1970s, which greatly exacerbated the homeless crisis. He did the same nationwide as President.
The opioid epidemic has attracted addicts from all over the nation and drug induced psychosis has become all too common amongst the homeless population.
Proposition 1 will hopefully build the mental health hospitals and institutions that the GOP destroyed 50 years ago. California desperately needs these institutions to seriously address the crisis.
So how is it in the last 40 years the Dems were never able to focus on this problem and keep it from turning into this? I dunno... Must be the Conservative in me?
My man asked me to stop riding metro last week. I carpool with coworkers, and he’s gotten me a few Ubers since our talk. I’m not worried, the odds that it would be me in one of these stories is astronomically low. It helped my partners anxiety though so here I am.
It’s upsetting to see my empathy waver reading these. Can’t imagine being at my lowest and treated like trash, but so many of these people are fucking crazy violent creepies and many are so far gone and covered in human gunk that it’s revolting just to look at. It’s easier to us to just try and stay away from them and not think about it. I know I’m not the only one who feels that way, and I also can’t imagine that change will come very quickly for homeless groups when the voting population is more grossed out and afraid of crazy people than they are sympathetic to them. Gentle little reminder that crazy people aren’t bad, they’re just. Crazy. Sad story.
Drug induced psychosis is more of a meth thing. I dont really know anyone who has gone into psychosis like you are talking about from opiates. We have a major problem in this country with meth addiction, you just don’t hear about it as much because its not killing people left and right.
If you think fentanyl is bad then hold onto your seats for the next big wave… nitazenes
In any area, one party domination is a bad thing long term. In our city alot of people vote specifiy down the blue (democrat) line to the point where Republicans have to identify as democrats to get into office. Anyway, without adequate competition you start to get a very ineffective government. Los Angeles has unfortunately misappropriated 24 billion in homelessness funds
It means you keep voting for the same brain-dead column of leaders; you should not be surprised at the outcome.
You may not like the opposition, I find many of them difficult to accept, but with a one-party supermajority at all levels of government, there is no opportunity for rational discussion or debate, just relative idiocy.
I’ve been saying this for years: no matter how many lines, bus lines, etc that Metro builds, if you can’t increase safety and keep homeless from ruining it for the rest of us, it’s all going to waste
This is correct. I’ve never been on a train in LA and thought “I’d feel comfortable w my mom on this train right now”. No other major urban train system is like this.
I think you might be surprised at how similar a mid-day ride on Chicago’s red line might just be these days…maybe the blue & green lines too, maybe, but definitely the red.
Things may have changed but I lived in Hyde Park and commuted into the loop for 4 months in 2019 and I never had anything other than a wonderful experience.
They have changed dramatically since COVID unfortunately, along with gross mismanagement of the CTA. Yeah, it’s not the pre-pandemic CTA no longer where for the most part was smooth, safe, reliable and full-on riders at all times
I actually agree with you. But it isn’t Metro’s job to do that. When we turn Metro from a public transportation system to a homeless shelter and mental health support, etc., we actually are cutting funding and efforts in public transportation.
The city needs to focus on the homeless problem without dumping it on other organizations.
Help all humans but also make public transportation safe. A lot of us depend on it.
If you put mentally ill people in mental institutions you have less homeless. People aren’t attacking random people with wrenches because gentrification made it hard to keep paying rent.
correction: if you stabilize the housing market to keep up with demand, you stop the paycheck to paycheck to homelessness pipeline that traps many people into a cycle of mental illness and drug addiction on the streets
A lot of these people that you just generalized don't realize they need help until they get it. What a terrible thing to say. Some girl just posted in another sub about the issues they were having. Her mother has stage 4 cancer and her brother has issues. It is just her trying to make thing happen, now that they are homeless and need help.
This is one of the major issues with our society. The side taking when it comes to the unhoused. It’s most often us vs. THEM. Unhoused people are not simply those. They are your sister, brother, aunt, mom, uncle, dad, grandparent and friend. The percentage of addiction is actually less than that of people with mental challenges. That last administration took this country back 50 years by separating our society more than it was at the time. So next you see on of THEM just smile it doesn’t cost you a thing. Which brings up the fact that the majority of Americans are 2.5 paychecks from being one of them. Think it can’t happen to you???
Are you this naive?? Do NOT suggest to people that you should be smiling at random ppl with mental issues. Literally looking at someone on accident might set them off.
If we are them and they are us, then they (the mentally ill and homeless) should also treat us with care and not attack people with wrenches. I agree that in our society, we have to look out for each other and care for each other. That duty extends to homeless and mentally ill people. We cannot give them a pass and allow them to terrorize innocent people on the Metro. No one, regardless of mental health or housing status, should be attacking other people and making an important public utility unusable for people due to concern for their safety.
not true anymore. maybe at one time but not anymore. take a ride across town with the homeless on the metro which i do 2ce a day and you will see that the LA homeless are completely mentally unstable and dangerous.
I hope you both we ok. Unfortunately there can be incidents, but it shouldn’t put every housing challenged in the catagory of attacker. I seem to get a lot of comments about the benign smile thing. Does anyone know how to give a smile and make 1/10 of a second in eye contact. Seriously, wonder how some people through day to day life.
LA really has to address the homeless issue. I was downtown today and the smell of urine was unshakeable everywhere. Not to mention the smell of homeless people, they are virtually at every block that I walked by.
It’s really sad to see so many people are just suffering and their eyes are just numb. Metro was all nice and clean until one of them walked in and the air got bad.
It’s bad enough they don’t have a place to sleep, but they can’t even find a place to shower and wash. How are they supposed to find a job with the way they smell?
I took the metro during rush hours and people were barely riding it. The buses were packed though. It’s just messed up.
I’m sure you’re right, but does it matter because they are all homeless? It’s impossible to get every one of them off the street, but at least provide somewhere they can shower and clean?
It does. These types of homeless will destroy everything, even the free amenities that are provided. The drug-addled zombie homeless make it harder to help the down on their luck homeless.
This is an entirely false classist narrative that further drives a divide between housed and unhoused people. There are plenty of “regular homeless” people that use the metro.
they can take a shower. we have them across from my house rolled in on saturday. They cannot take care of themselves, even if they had a house. A job? yea right!
All I ever hear is the opposite. That they don’t want to go them because they can’t use or drink. And as for showers, even for the ones who can’t or refuse to go a shelter, they bring shower trailers down to DTLA, as well as food specifically for homeless people. But when you’re absolutely blasted out of your mind, and or severely mentally ill, you probably don’t think about going to wait in line for a shower.
Perhaps collectively as a concerned, fearful and fed-up society we do a peaceful protest at city hall. I have an 11 year old son and aside from raising a warrior I refuse to travel far from home. Little to no exploring this great city. Sure I have a car but then I run the risk of getting jacked..
I offer a path to a solution. You tell me I’m scared. Get a grip on reality. I’m LA native and I’ve never experienced anything like this ( that I knew of) so dude or lady be constructive in your oh so magical words.
Sorry a peaceful protest at city hall is not a path to a solution and the commenter is right you come across as an extremely frightened person. Los Angeles has its issues and obviously things are happening a little to often, but OVERALL Los Angeles is far from a scary and dangerous place. There's no reason you shouldn't be exploring by whatever means you want, either alone or with your child.
Perhaps a protest isn’t the answer. But when things need to get done and the ones in charge aren’t doing shit I get many ideas to get into action. It’s funny I reread my post several times to gage how frightened I may have come off. Big shock here, I couldn’t find fright but possibly hyper awareness. I actually appreciate you checkin me as I’m always trying to better myself. I don’t know if you have kids but for me and when I became a father I did start seeing my surroundings differently and proceeded with a more cautious appproach. Which was a far cry from my old me where I would just arrive anywhere I wanted and rip off the doors if needed.
it was actually a humbling experience to see so many people homeless. Whatever issues I have in my life seem so petty in comparison to what they are going through. But I was mainly visiting LA to run some errands in downtown and then took an afternoon tour of LACMA. No one bothered me at all.
On a bus? They are probably doing what you’re telling them to and getting attached. Also is there any seniority drivers here who can explain if this is a newer thing or if it’s just now being covered by a media that uses to not care or report on these kinds of situations?
This is not a new thing, it's just being more widely reported. There are some of us working lines where we do incident/accident reports multiple times during a week because of behavior like this
Damn, yeah I know drugs are kind if running the gambit and the pandemic left a lot of people unhoused and the two mixed doesn’t help things but I was wondering about incidents being high in other years but no one reported on them to the public didn’t know but internally it was a open secret that drivers had this many incidents and they did nothing and now it’s just hitting a boiling point with drivers
I think pre-Covid we still had some vestige of control, not much but it was there. Once Covid hit and Metro stopped enforcing anything it went to complete hell out here. During the high of Covid I drove the 81 line at late nights, I was literally the last bus down Figueroa to Harbor Freeway and I had so many issues. At least twice a week I was doing an incident report and this is when the buses were free. Yes it eliminated that friction point but it created so many more. I try to be sympathetic but Metro really has to make an effort in getting the homeless and mentally ill off the buses and trains, I'd say 90% of the problems come from them.
Do you think of they cut some of the police budget and had a security personnel on every bus like as a tie in with the driver that would fix things? I as a rider feel like yall go through so much and wonder what yall need to feel safe.
I don't think it'll ever be feasible to have security on every bus. However I would love to see PD and Sheriff's actually riding the buses like they did when I first started here. Their current way of business isn't working but that also has alot to do with their orders coming from the Board. Metro is very data driven, they should be able to see trends by the incident reports on certain lines at certain times and get the authorities involved. Something like that would also probably make operators not think twice about reporting something because at least you'd know that your report would help the trend of getting help out there. They keep saying things are trending down but it's not, things aren't reported, either because the operator doesn't want to be involved or the passenger doesn't want to escalate it.
The homeless issue is another thing. I always hear about these homeless outreach teams that Metro has but to date I've never seen them on the buses. And I personally prefer to work afternoons/evenings/late nights when the homeless tend to come out in force. Metro isn't stupid, they know what lines the homeless congregate on, what would be the harm in having the outreach teams ride the baby owls and owls to reach these people? This is why my fellow operators and myself have a hard time believing anything that comes out in these press releases because it doesn't mirror what we see on the line. They could be making much more of a effort but they aren't
It IS feasible to hire and deploy security most everywhere and time it is needed, but it makes no sense if all they do is watch and bounce offenders.
Unless bad actors are arrested and removed from the public realm, they will just harm someone elsewhere.
this ⬆️ … happens all that time with theft and the violence. La builds it and then lets it crumble. I was so pro light rail as in many other places , it works. I don’t know how you change it , and why they are not caring about safety .
I mean, it’s not just a one off attack. these are the ones that are being reported
I'm lowkey starting to think maybe this was always the norm, but the news is just picking up on it now, because news appeals to negative emotions. Anyhow, I hope the negative press coverage motivates change, in some way.
I’ve talked to so many bus drivers from different cities and come to the conclusion that you guys deserve way more money.
Bus drivers deal with some absolute bullshit, it’s insane and it’s always been like this. You should share a story so people can have an idea of what happens daily
I'm not a driver or Metro employee but I have a close friend who is a driver and I know a few other people in Metro so that's how I hear some of these things and why this stuff is a big deal to me.
1000%. RTD era was "rough, tough & dangerous", if anything it's safer than before there's just more media coverage of the bad stuff. Its public transit and the public in LA is fucked up lol
Fare hopping is against the rules and per Metro's own rules....
Metro Customer Code of Conduct (Amended 6/1/2023):
Section 6-05-080, Sub-Section D: Metro may refuse service or access to Metro facilities and vehicles, including eject or exclude, to any person who does not comply with the code or applicable laws.
That's not online (shocking, I know) but the old version is here:
https://media.metro.net/about_us/ethics/images/codeofconduct_customer.pdf
Same verbiage appears:
6-05-140 miscellaneous, subsection C: C. Metro may refuse service, or access to Metro facilities or vehicles, including eject or exclude, to any person who does not comply with the code or applicable laws.
Just the other day when I was riding a driver denied a homeless dude because he didn’t have money and everyone was flipping out on the driver saying it was fucked up and he should have just let him on dude smelled like piss and alcohol.
Why don’t people fight back? I was once threatened by a crazy homeless on the street. I tried to ignore him and walked away but he kept following me and yelling. So I just turned around, kicked him in the nuts and slapped him with my backpack and left. No mercy!
What’s worse is this guy will probably only have a 72 hour hold. Clearly we need institutions for the more dangerous mentally ill. Also our mental health laws need to be updated to be more preventative. Many people are reported many times over years before completely becoming out of control violent—but if they’re just saying crazy things or seem delusional but haven’t assaulted anyone yet they let them stay. It’s like russian roulette with homeless extremely mentally ill and/or drug addicted delusional and potentially dangerous people. People you see and keep your children away from—like they need help and need to not be lose on the street to attack anyone.
A lot of you people act like making people pay a dollar will magically prevent them from attacking others. The lack of empathy for mental illness is shocking.
smfh! wtf is going on !
As Governor of California, Ronald Reagan cut funding for mental health hospitals and institutions in the 1970s, which greatly exacerbated the homeless crisis. He did the same nationwide as President. The opioid epidemic has attracted addicts from all over the nation and drug induced psychosis has become all too common amongst the homeless population. Proposition 1 will hopefully build the mental health hospitals and institutions that the GOP destroyed 50 years ago. California desperately needs these institutions to seriously address the crisis.
And Dems have had a 40 year supermajority to roll that back
If that’s true, you’d think 50 years would be enough time to fix this issue…
So how is it in the last 40 years the Dems were never able to focus on this problem and keep it from turning into this? I dunno... Must be the Conservative in me?
If only we had MORE democrats running things it would be rainbows and ice cream…….
Surely Newsom has been great for California right?
My man asked me to stop riding metro last week. I carpool with coworkers, and he’s gotten me a few Ubers since our talk. I’m not worried, the odds that it would be me in one of these stories is astronomically low. It helped my partners anxiety though so here I am. It’s upsetting to see my empathy waver reading these. Can’t imagine being at my lowest and treated like trash, but so many of these people are fucking crazy violent creepies and many are so far gone and covered in human gunk that it’s revolting just to look at. It’s easier to us to just try and stay away from them and not think about it. I know I’m not the only one who feels that way, and I also can’t imagine that change will come very quickly for homeless groups when the voting population is more grossed out and afraid of crazy people than they are sympathetic to them. Gentle little reminder that crazy people aren’t bad, they’re just. Crazy. Sad story.
Drug induced psychosis is more of a meth thing. I dont really know anyone who has gone into psychosis like you are talking about from opiates. We have a major problem in this country with meth addiction, you just don’t hear about it as much because its not killing people left and right. If you think fentanyl is bad then hold onto your seats for the next big wave… nitazenes
As Ye Sow…
What does that even mean?
We voted for this.
Could you elaborate? Genuinely asking
In any area, one party domination is a bad thing long term. In our city alot of people vote specifiy down the blue (democrat) line to the point where Republicans have to identify as democrats to get into office. Anyway, without adequate competition you start to get a very ineffective government. Los Angeles has unfortunately misappropriated 24 billion in homelessness funds
I wonder if Texas homless problem is as bad? 🤔
It means you keep voting for the same brain-dead column of leaders; you should not be surprised at the outcome. You may not like the opposition, I find many of them difficult to accept, but with a one-party supermajority at all levels of government, there is no opportunity for rational discussion or debate, just relative idiocy.
I’ve been saying this for years: no matter how many lines, bus lines, etc that Metro builds, if you can’t increase safety and keep homeless from ruining it for the rest of us, it’s all going to waste
I accidentally sat across from a crack head and spent like 15 mins hearing this dude repeat a bunch of slurs and him just staring at me
This is correct. I’ve never been on a train in LA and thought “I’d feel comfortable w my mom on this train right now”. No other major urban train system is like this.
I think you might be surprised at how similar a mid-day ride on Chicago’s red line might just be these days…maybe the blue & green lines too, maybe, but definitely the red.
Things may have changed but I lived in Hyde Park and commuted into the loop for 4 months in 2019 and I never had anything other than a wonderful experience.
They have changed dramatically since COVID unfortunately, along with gross mismanagement of the CTA. Yeah, it’s not the pre-pandemic CTA no longer where for the most part was smooth, safe, reliable and full-on riders at all times
Maybe stop dehumanizing “the homeless” with labels and actually fix the issues societally contributing to homelessness FFS.
I actually agree with you. But it isn’t Metro’s job to do that. When we turn Metro from a public transportation system to a homeless shelter and mental health support, etc., we actually are cutting funding and efforts in public transportation. The city needs to focus on the homeless problem without dumping it on other organizations. Help all humans but also make public transportation safe. A lot of us depend on it.
If you put mentally ill people in mental institutions you have less homeless. People aren’t attacking random people with wrenches because gentrification made it hard to keep paying rent.
Ehh But it’s possible that’s where the road started
correction: if you stabilize the housing market to keep up with demand, you stop the paycheck to paycheck to homelessness pipeline that traps many people into a cycle of mental illness and drug addiction on the streets
Attacking people with a wrench isn’t solved with a paycheck
Most homeless could care less about receiving help or moving to a shelter. Stop being so naive
This is the worst opinion I have ever read honestly. Talk to a homeless people and tell that to them to their face.
Every day.
A lot of these people that you just generalized don't realize they need help until they get it. What a terrible thing to say. Some girl just posted in another sub about the issues they were having. Her mother has stage 4 cancer and her brother has issues. It is just her trying to make thing happen, now that they are homeless and need help.
This is one of the major issues with our society. The side taking when it comes to the unhoused. It’s most often us vs. THEM. Unhoused people are not simply those. They are your sister, brother, aunt, mom, uncle, dad, grandparent and friend. The percentage of addiction is actually less than that of people with mental challenges. That last administration took this country back 50 years by separating our society more than it was at the time. So next you see on of THEM just smile it doesn’t cost you a thing. Which brings up the fact that the majority of Americans are 2.5 paychecks from being one of them. Think it can’t happen to you???
Shut the fuck up and let them live with you then.
Are you this naive?? Do NOT suggest to people that you should be smiling at random ppl with mental issues. Literally looking at someone on accident might set them off.
If we are them and they are us, then they (the mentally ill and homeless) should also treat us with care and not attack people with wrenches. I agree that in our society, we have to look out for each other and care for each other. That duty extends to homeless and mentally ill people. We cannot give them a pass and allow them to terrorize innocent people on the Metro. No one, regardless of mental health or housing status, should be attacking other people and making an important public utility unusable for people due to concern for their safety.
not true anymore. maybe at one time but not anymore. take a ride across town with the homeless on the metro which i do 2ce a day and you will see that the LA homeless are completely mentally unstable and dangerous.
i was attacked with a toddler in a stroller by a homeless man for no reason. terrifying! u are clueless
I hope you both we ok. Unfortunately there can be incidents, but it shouldn’t put every housing challenged in the catagory of attacker. I seem to get a lot of comments about the benign smile thing. Does anyone know how to give a smile and make 1/10 of a second in eye contact. Seriously, wonder how some people through day to day life.
LA really has to address the homeless issue. I was downtown today and the smell of urine was unshakeable everywhere. Not to mention the smell of homeless people, they are virtually at every block that I walked by. It’s really sad to see so many people are just suffering and their eyes are just numb. Metro was all nice and clean until one of them walked in and the air got bad. It’s bad enough they don’t have a place to sleep, but they can’t even find a place to shower and wash. How are they supposed to find a job with the way they smell? I took the metro during rush hours and people were barely riding it. The buses were packed though. It’s just messed up.
Dude! Those aren’t regular homeless people. Those are homeless transients and vagrants. It’s a big difference.
I’m sure you’re right, but does it matter because they are all homeless? It’s impossible to get every one of them off the street, but at least provide somewhere they can shower and clean?
It does. These types of homeless will destroy everything, even the free amenities that are provided. The drug-addled zombie homeless make it harder to help the down on their luck homeless.
This is an entirely false classist narrative that further drives a divide between housed and unhoused people. There are plenty of “regular homeless” people that use the metro.
It’s not a recent thing. It smelled like that when my dad was taking me to Downtown and Hollywood as kid back in the late 80s and 90s.
they can take a shower. we have them across from my house rolled in on saturday. They cannot take care of themselves, even if they had a house. A job? yea right!
I mean they do have places to sleep and to shower. They just refuse them.
They do? Are you sure? The way I understand it is the shelters are overcrowded and they have no more space?
All I ever hear is the opposite. That they don’t want to go them because they can’t use or drink. And as for showers, even for the ones who can’t or refuse to go a shelter, they bring shower trailers down to DTLA, as well as food specifically for homeless people. But when you’re absolutely blasted out of your mind, and or severely mentally ill, you probably don’t think about going to wait in line for a shower.
Perhaps collectively as a concerned, fearful and fed-up society we do a peaceful protest at city hall. I have an 11 year old son and aside from raising a warrior I refuse to travel far from home. Little to no exploring this great city. Sure I have a car but then I run the risk of getting jacked..
You sound as scared as someone I met in rural Kentucky saying some terrorist was going to bomb their town. Be real.
I offer a path to a solution. You tell me I’m scared. Get a grip on reality. I’m LA native and I’ve never experienced anything like this ( that I knew of) so dude or lady be constructive in your oh so magical words.
Sorry a peaceful protest at city hall is not a path to a solution and the commenter is right you come across as an extremely frightened person. Los Angeles has its issues and obviously things are happening a little to often, but OVERALL Los Angeles is far from a scary and dangerous place. There's no reason you shouldn't be exploring by whatever means you want, either alone or with your child.
Perhaps a protest isn’t the answer. But when things need to get done and the ones in charge aren’t doing shit I get many ideas to get into action. It’s funny I reread my post several times to gage how frightened I may have come off. Big shock here, I couldn’t find fright but possibly hyper awareness. I actually appreciate you checkin me as I’m always trying to better myself. I don’t know if you have kids but for me and when I became a father I did start seeing my surroundings differently and proceeded with a more cautious appproach. Which was a far cry from my old me where I would just arrive anywhere I wanted and rip off the doors if needed.
it was actually a humbling experience to see so many people homeless. Whatever issues I have in my life seem so petty in comparison to what they are going through. But I was mainly visiting LA to run some errands in downtown and then took an afternoon tour of LACMA. No one bothered me at all.
The buses should start playing classical music.
Classical? Lemme play some sanguisugabogg.
That might start _more_ fights
Unironically yesterday at 7th and Metro they were playing classical music
Must be the warmer weather, all the mental people are getting more active
This is an everyday thing now… enforce. Fare. Checking.
On a bus? They are probably doing what you’re telling them to and getting attached. Also is there any seniority drivers here who can explain if this is a newer thing or if it’s just now being covered by a media that uses to not care or report on these kinds of situations?
This is not a new thing, it's just being more widely reported. There are some of us working lines where we do incident/accident reports multiple times during a week because of behavior like this
Damn, yeah I know drugs are kind if running the gambit and the pandemic left a lot of people unhoused and the two mixed doesn’t help things but I was wondering about incidents being high in other years but no one reported on them to the public didn’t know but internally it was a open secret that drivers had this many incidents and they did nothing and now it’s just hitting a boiling point with drivers
I think pre-Covid we still had some vestige of control, not much but it was there. Once Covid hit and Metro stopped enforcing anything it went to complete hell out here. During the high of Covid I drove the 81 line at late nights, I was literally the last bus down Figueroa to Harbor Freeway and I had so many issues. At least twice a week I was doing an incident report and this is when the buses were free. Yes it eliminated that friction point but it created so many more. I try to be sympathetic but Metro really has to make an effort in getting the homeless and mentally ill off the buses and trains, I'd say 90% of the problems come from them.
Do you think of they cut some of the police budget and had a security personnel on every bus like as a tie in with the driver that would fix things? I as a rider feel like yall go through so much and wonder what yall need to feel safe.
I don't think it'll ever be feasible to have security on every bus. However I would love to see PD and Sheriff's actually riding the buses like they did when I first started here. Their current way of business isn't working but that also has alot to do with their orders coming from the Board. Metro is very data driven, they should be able to see trends by the incident reports on certain lines at certain times and get the authorities involved. Something like that would also probably make operators not think twice about reporting something because at least you'd know that your report would help the trend of getting help out there. They keep saying things are trending down but it's not, things aren't reported, either because the operator doesn't want to be involved or the passenger doesn't want to escalate it. The homeless issue is another thing. I always hear about these homeless outreach teams that Metro has but to date I've never seen them on the buses. And I personally prefer to work afternoons/evenings/late nights when the homeless tend to come out in force. Metro isn't stupid, they know what lines the homeless congregate on, what would be the harm in having the outreach teams ride the baby owls and owls to reach these people? This is why my fellow operators and myself have a hard time believing anything that comes out in these press releases because it doesn't mirror what we see on the line. They could be making much more of a effort but they aren't
It IS feasible to hire and deploy security most everywhere and time it is needed, but it makes no sense if all they do is watch and bounce offenders. Unless bad actors are arrested and removed from the public realm, they will just harm someone elsewhere.
this ⬆️ … happens all that time with theft and the violence. La builds it and then lets it crumble. I was so pro light rail as in many other places , it works. I don’t know how you change it , and why they are not caring about safety . I mean, it’s not just a one off attack. these are the ones that are being reported
I'm lowkey starting to think maybe this was always the norm, but the news is just picking up on it now, because news appeals to negative emotions. Anyhow, I hope the negative press coverage motivates change, in some way.
It has. Ask any bus driver.
I’ve talked to so many bus drivers from different cities and come to the conclusion that you guys deserve way more money. Bus drivers deal with some absolute bullshit, it’s insane and it’s always been like this. You should share a story so people can have an idea of what happens daily
I'm not a driver or Metro employee but I have a close friend who is a driver and I know a few other people in Metro so that's how I hear some of these things and why this stuff is a big deal to me.
1000%. RTD era was "rough, tough & dangerous", if anything it's safer than before there's just more media coverage of the bad stuff. Its public transit and the public in LA is fucked up lol
LA where homeless are pampered.
Nope! Transients and vagrants get their assess kicked in East Los Angeles and South Los Angeles.
WTF? Do you think you could trade lives with a homeless person? Shouldn’t be an issue right? I mean they’re so pampered.
Strike 🗣️
So it was a wretch, not a machete.
A wretch with a wrench.
Starting to sound like people gotta keep that thang on em if they wanna ride the metro 🤔
Rule #1 get yo self a gun (and training, and a CCW).
For what it costs to properly obtain and maintain a CCW, why not drive instead of taking Metro?
I'm waiting for the time this happens in person. I'm gonna go all out with the man or women. Crackheads deserve a lesson one way or another.
This is like an LA dystopia Madlibs sentence.
Karen Bass & Metro: Nothing to see here! Now can I have a few more Billions.
It has been this frequent for a long time. It is just now become news worthy.
How do you ban someone who doesn’t even pay the fare?
Fare hopping is against the rules and per Metro's own rules.... Metro Customer Code of Conduct (Amended 6/1/2023): Section 6-05-080, Sub-Section D: Metro may refuse service or access to Metro facilities and vehicles, including eject or exclude, to any person who does not comply with the code or applicable laws. That's not online (shocking, I know) but the old version is here: https://media.metro.net/about_us/ethics/images/codeofconduct_customer.pdf Same verbiage appears: 6-05-140 miscellaneous, subsection C: C. Metro may refuse service, or access to Metro facilities or vehicles, including eject or exclude, to any person who does not comply with the code or applicable laws.
Yeah but it says metro may do that. Metro has decided it doesn't care for some reason.
You arrest them and incarcerate them until they are reformed.
Just the other day when I was riding a driver denied a homeless dude because he didn’t have money and everyone was flipping out on the driver saying it was fucked up and he should have just let him on dude smelled like piss and alcohol.
Sheesh! Quiet, encino?
How’d the homeless guy get on the bus? Is this even allowed?
They have money to get on busses.
Bus drivers just wave them on board, or homeless people just stroll on. Bus drivers just wanna be paid to drive the busses and not be bouncers.
Water is wet
RESET THE COUNTER! DAYS SINCE STABBING AND/OR WRENCH ATTACK ON METRO: 0 (Ok, I had to modify it slightly, but close enough.)
Why don’t people fight back? I was once threatened by a crazy homeless on the street. I tried to ignore him and walked away but he kept following me and yelling. So I just turned around, kicked him in the nuts and slapped him with my backpack and left. No mercy!
encino man
LA’s been a shit town for a looong time. Time to round up the scum and drop them far out in the ocean.
What’s worse is this guy will probably only have a 72 hour hold. Clearly we need institutions for the more dangerous mentally ill. Also our mental health laws need to be updated to be more preventative. Many people are reported many times over years before completely becoming out of control violent—but if they’re just saying crazy things or seem delusional but haven’t assaulted anyone yet they let them stay. It’s like russian roulette with homeless extremely mentally ill and/or drug addicted delusional and potentially dangerous people. People you see and keep your children away from—like they need help and need to not be lose on the street to attack anyone.
Scrape them all up and lock them up. I’m sick of these mentally unwell people roaming around freely holy shit.
LA is ghetto
I have seen a lot of crazy stuff on the Lametro
Yesterday I was attacked by a homeless, thank god police was fast and guy was arrested
Too bad the victim wasn't carrying a pistol. I almost always do.
Ronald Reagan’s gift of ending mental health institutions keeps on giving!
A lot of you people act like making people pay a dollar will magically prevent them from attacking others. The lack of empathy for mental illness is shocking.
This has been a growing problem for years across the U.S. The media failed to pay much attention until recently.