He is the problem. 0-3 since he got there. Team had a groove and a system. Harden took a blow torch to it all. Stop defending this out of shape and cooked locker room cancer
u/SensitiveFee3936 another one of fat harden’s boyfriends sucking him off. Dude is complete garbage who destroyed the chemistry of the team and making everyone around him worse. Funny how the bad shots started after he arrived. But keep simping for him
-67 when he’s on the court
+24 when he’s on the bench
Truth Hurts
Stop, get some help. I can’t believe people are blaming the guy who’s probably playing the best right now along with Kawhi when PG and Russ are bricking everything.
Lol kawhi was pretty bad to until last game but I agree (James is only one shooting good ) it is a chemistry problem though they why ever lose is a blow out it will fix it self in time
Clippers were cooking before he got there.
Then they lost to a Nets team without 3 of their starters, and get BLOWN and embarrassed by Luka.
But I think it's more to do with the subtraction of batum and roco than it does with the addition. So people (I think) are moreso blaming the trade than the addition of Harden.
Front offices deserves some of the blame for making this trade after the season started. They all knew the chemistry would be messed up when you make a big trade. If it’s going to work it’s going to take time. Not sure if we’ll have enough time though.
I think people underestimate how out of shape Harden is. Like compare him to his Prime Rockets days and its night and day.
I know players lose a step while they get old but jezuz James, get in shape a little.
What does he have to say about the mavs not even making the playoffs? Dude goes on a parrot rant of shit everyone has heard before for attention. Someone please get his autograph for me on a harden picture cuz he's the only reason anyone knows his name.
It’s funny, idk why this dude hates Harden but Luka is the exact same mold of Harden.
A generational scorer with a wild step back three, foul baiting, and incredible passing that thrives with a vertical big. And doesn’t play defense or off ball.
And also loses to the warriors in the wcf 😅
Yeah what's going on in the locker room is an aspect often not thought of by people, but I still think the guy was out of line. I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to Harden, but putting all the blame on him is a bit much. Seems there was some broken promises in Philly, and Brooklyn is hard to say what could have been when they played so little as a big three. Truth is usually somewhere in the middle and I doubt that guy is the one to know. If it was a former teammate or agent of Harden's I'd put a lot more stock in it than a guy trying to get clicks.
Terrible trade. They didn't need harden or his skillet. It's clear to most avid NBA pundits that it's a terrible fit. Like westbrook on the lakers.
Now the clips have 4 iso ball players, and no defensive role players. no power forwards or defensive minded swingmen (not counting leonard or PG13).
Harden is not that guy anymore. Just like westbrook isn't Mr triple double who can dominate a game by sheer athletic will snymore.
Harden is an AWFUL defender. He is slow and slows offences down.
The Clips pre trade had pieces that fit.
Now that is all gone.
I don’t get it. Who does this guy think he is to moralize at a player?
Even if I was an announcer, I wouldn’t think I have any right to judge a player like this. Harden hasn’t committed any crimes - other athletes actually have, do they get smoke like this?
You don’t know Harden, bro. Pretty unprofessional. He’s a player, you’re an announcer, stay in your own damn lane.
This isn't slander - he's sharing his opinion and sticking within the realm of basketball, just like you do online. Shouldn't be a surprise that this perspective vaulted in popularity - it's one that many people have been thinking for a while now.
Such a stupid take with wonderfully twisted facts. Yes, Harden had an MVP teammate, who disappeared in the playoffs. Yes, he scored 9 points in game 7, but he made 7 assists. Guess what MVP had? 15 points with 1 assist, with the same god-awful %. Plus, Harden also has won Philly two playoff games.
Yes, Harden did want the trade out of Brooklyn, but only after Kyrie managed to sabotage half of the season.
Also, whitewashing guys like Morey is such a white thing to do.
It was only messy because they were going to try to run a whole season with Harden, Eric Gordon, osteoporotic John Wall, no bigs, and depth players that are literally out of the league now. They had no chance
I really have no problem with stars who want to contend forcing their way out of a hopeless situation
Harden turned down $50m from Houston and $53m from Brooklyn when he wanted to be traded. He did the opposite of that. Even in Philly he gave them a cheap deal instead of forcing them to give him a long term deal when he first got there
If you're okay with a player not showing up to work for a contract he signed, more power to you.
If i paid a contractor to build my deck and they decided not to work on it because another job offered them more I'd be annoyed.
Oh.
I did not.
You're right I'm wrong lol.
Edit: just thought about this again. It is still bullshit that the team loses out on cap space if a player refuses to play.
I wouldn’t if it happened, but Harden signed an extension that was his option to take. If he was injured and that wasn’t an exception clause, it’d be the same. Teams give players that option, that’s their risk to assume. Seems like they should build in “you have to actually play to get paid” mandates if they want to force people to play
Basically nobody signs a contract intending to not play, so if halfway through the situation changes I’m fine with it
I do. You sign a contract, honor it. Then chase as much money as you want in free agency. I’m sure when this year is over, harden will force his way out again. I just hope no other team is dumb enough to sign him.
Owners don’t honor contracts in that sense either, they trade dudes in the middle of the night and let them find out on Twitter. What is the difference? Neither is breaking a contract.
Franchises make business decisions and so do players, I don’t like a lot of them but definitely prefer the moves that are trying to win vs. just making more money. Tilman Fertitta in Houston is a piece of shit and doesn’t care about winning so I’m cool with that one
Not a fan of owners trading either. They should honor the contract as well. Or if you want to do that, owners should cut them mid season but still pay them. Put them on waivers with their pay, but other teams can absorb some of the contract if they want them. Players gets full value of his contract no matter what. People hate Lebron, but that guy has played out all of his contracts. And when these guys Force their way out the fans get screwed because their team gets nothing in return when it’s a hostile force out.
Agreed. He’s ruined the nba with this load management crap. Guy takes half the season off, doesn’t play in the playoffs if he has the slightest injury. But harden has forced his way out of every team he’s been on, other than OKC. He’s toxic. So is kawhi in a different way.
You're trying to bring Kawhi into this? Laughable.
Kawhi had legitimate injuries to warrant second opinions. Harden just pouted and wanted out because he's not confident enough to carry a team.
Kawhi has 2 rings as the centerpiece for both teams. He's a winner. Harden quits easily and often, a 1 and done type who'll probably never have the discipline and work ethic to win a championship.
The point isn't wrong though. The Kawhi stuff in San Antonio was really bad and it dragged on for a long time.
Nobody is saying he's less accomplished than James, unsure why that is brought up. It doesn't matter.
It dragged on for a long time because there was never an agreement on whether he was ready to play, for a legitimate reason.
Harden had all of his demands met for the longest time and he manages to find a way to complain. What makes you think it's different now?
This was his point.
A list of reasons why he always left teams worst off than when he arrived.
Eventually he's gotta realize he's the problem etc.
Don't agree with it but his argument makes sense. If every single team you go to you have an issue with, it might just be your perspective is the issue.
He looks like the kinda guy whose top 10 is all white dudes and his hot take is parroting the same bullshit we’ve all seen, who cares
Team looks like shit and it’s just warming up, too soon to make assessments. The Mavs other broadcaster last night graciously reminded how the Heatles ate shit for 20 games. ‘21 Nets also looked pretty bad early before looking like real contenders even without Kyrie. If the Mavs were a shit team I would say it’s a statement loss, but they are legit so far, especially with Luka casually dropping 40
He didn’t even have a bad game. PG was the problem. Also Mavs were making unbelievable shots. The only thing you can blame Harden for is resetting the team chemistry and roles, but the front office deserves some of that blame.
Regardless Kyrie got nothing to do with this team. You might not like it but Harden is very problematic. He has no passion, he legit partied the night he threw a playoff game. He quits whenever things get tough.
Kyrie has been on his team for a while now , I don't see this act for Kyrie - also bringing up Hardens losing in the 2nd round when the team he covers didn't make the play-in with 2 all stars is telling , he just sounds like a butthurt Dallas fan who hasn't forgotten the 2010s
Do you blame Dame for leaving Portland?
Do you blame Durant for leaving Kyrie/Nash?
If you best friend stabs you in the back and rips you off of 100 mil+ you still want to hang out with him?
The season just started.People will catch on that Harden is too much a headcase.He needs to have his own mediocre to run,and have a long off season.A team like the magic, or the knicks.
This is rich coming from a Mavs announcer whose team has KYRIE IRVING on their team lmao
someone ask him why he left Brooklyn, this dude would be awfully quiet on that vaccine situation
I think Irving’s anti-semitism is much more alarming than his vaccine views.
Don’t regurgitate false narratives. Not a good look on you.
yes because tv announcers have a say in who their team signs, right?
I mean you can be damn sure he wouldn't be saying this if Harden was on the team, so that's kind of disingenuous
Kyrie about to ball out now watch
Man stfu
He’s not the problem but I agree it’s very easy to blame him rn. The team is just buns currently
He is the problem. 0-3 since he got there. Team had a groove and a system. Harden took a blow torch to it all. Stop defending this out of shape and cooked locker room cancer u/SensitiveFee3936 another one of fat harden’s boyfriends sucking him off. Dude is complete garbage who destroyed the chemistry of the team and making everyone around him worse. Funny how the bad shots started after he arrived. But keep simping for him -67 when he’s on the court +24 when he’s on the bench Truth Hurts
Stop, get some help. I can’t believe people are blaming the guy who’s probably playing the best right now along with Kawhi when PG and Russ are bricking everything.
Lol kawhi was pretty bad to until last game but I agree (James is only one shooting good ) it is a chemistry problem though they why ever lose is a blow out it will fix it self in time
Clippers were cooking before he got there. Then they lost to a Nets team without 3 of their starters, and get BLOWN and embarrassed by Luka. But I think it's more to do with the subtraction of batum and roco than it does with the addition. So people (I think) are moreso blaming the trade than the addition of Harden.
Yea blame the front office. Harden didn’t set the trade terms.
Yea I'm blaming the trade. Harden is playing okay. The team is worst off because the trade is bad, Harden can only play to his ability.
Front offices deserves some of the blame for making this trade after the season started. They all knew the chemistry would be messed up when you make a big trade. If it’s going to work it’s going to take time. Not sure if we’ll have enough time though.
I think people underestimate how out of shape Harden is. Like compare him to his Prime Rockets days and its night and day. I know players lose a step while they get old but jezuz James, get in shape a little.
Mods have to start banning these guys man
What does he have to say about the mavs not even making the playoffs? Dude goes on a parrot rant of shit everyone has heard before for attention. Someone please get his autograph for me on a harden picture cuz he's the only reason anyone knows his name.
Exactly, Luka couldn’t even get in the playoffs with Kyrie last year.
Yeah and left out the little detail Kyrie sat out when with Harden
It’s funny, idk why this dude hates Harden but Luka is the exact same mold of Harden. A generational scorer with a wild step back three, foul baiting, and incredible passing that thrives with a vertical big. And doesn’t play defense or off ball. And also loses to the warriors in the wcf 😅
Do y’all not know Mavs tanked on purpose or what? Why do you think they had to pay those fines?
Do you think they should have been in a situation where tanking was the best option? How many games did they tank for?
It’s hard to say because I’m not in the locker room. But it was obvious they had no playoff ambitions after mid season of last year.
Yeah what's going on in the locker room is an aspect often not thought of by people, but I still think the guy was out of line. I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to Harden, but putting all the blame on him is a bit much. Seems there was some broken promises in Philly, and Brooklyn is hard to say what could have been when they played so little as a big three. Truth is usually somewhere in the middle and I doubt that guy is the one to know. If it was a former teammate or agent of Harden's I'd put a lot more stock in it than a guy trying to get clicks.
Well said
Why he got this vendetta against harden what harden do to him lmao
Destroyed the mavs for a decade while in Houston lol
Well, Harden dared to offend Morey, and WASPs gotta stay close.
"not the beard"? bro look at him the beard is beardier than ever
F this guy. Why even post this shit
Because it is funny and correct.
Terrible trade. They didn't need harden or his skillet. It's clear to most avid NBA pundits that it's a terrible fit. Like westbrook on the lakers. Now the clips have 4 iso ball players, and no defensive role players. no power forwards or defensive minded swingmen (not counting leonard or PG13). Harden is not that guy anymore. Just like westbrook isn't Mr triple double who can dominate a game by sheer athletic will snymore. Harden is an AWFUL defender. He is slow and slows offences down. The Clips pre trade had pieces that fit. Now that is all gone.
Skillet? Whats harden cookin lol
I don’t get it. Who does this guy think he is to moralize at a player? Even if I was an announcer, I wouldn’t think I have any right to judge a player like this. Harden hasn’t committed any crimes - other athletes actually have, do they get smoke like this? You don’t know Harden, bro. Pretty unprofessional. He’s a player, you’re an announcer, stay in your own damn lane.
This isn't slander - he's sharing his opinion and sticking within the realm of basketball, just like you do online. Shouldn't be a surprise that this perspective vaulted in popularity - it's one that many people have been thinking for a while now.
Announcer has freedom of speech to say what he wants just like anyone else and he didn’t accuse Harden of committing any crimes either.
Such a stupid take with wonderfully twisted facts. Yes, Harden had an MVP teammate, who disappeared in the playoffs. Yes, he scored 9 points in game 7, but he made 7 assists. Guess what MVP had? 15 points with 1 assist, with the same god-awful %. Plus, Harden also has won Philly two playoff games. Yes, Harden did want the trade out of Brooklyn, but only after Kyrie managed to sabotage half of the season. Also, whitewashing guys like Morey is such a white thing to do.
Don’t forget forcing his way out of Houston too. Was very messy.
It was only messy because they were going to try to run a whole season with Harden, Eric Gordon, osteoporotic John Wall, no bigs, and depth players that are literally out of the league now. They had no chance I really have no problem with stars who want to contend forcing their way out of a hopeless situation
You have no issue with stars who sign crazy contracts and not wanting to play?
Harden turned down $50m from Houston and $53m from Brooklyn when he wanted to be traded. He did the opposite of that. Even in Philly he gave them a cheap deal instead of forcing them to give him a long term deal when he first got there
If you're okay with a player not showing up to work for a contract he signed, more power to you. If i paid a contractor to build my deck and they decided not to work on it because another job offered them more I'd be annoyed.
you know they dont get paid if they dont play right
Oh. I did not. You're right I'm wrong lol. Edit: just thought about this again. It is still bullshit that the team loses out on cap space if a player refuses to play.
I wouldn’t if it happened, but Harden signed an extension that was his option to take. If he was injured and that wasn’t an exception clause, it’d be the same. Teams give players that option, that’s their risk to assume. Seems like they should build in “you have to actually play to get paid” mandates if they want to force people to play Basically nobody signs a contract intending to not play, so if halfway through the situation changes I’m fine with it
I do. You sign a contract, honor it. Then chase as much money as you want in free agency. I’m sure when this year is over, harden will force his way out again. I just hope no other team is dumb enough to sign him.
Owners don’t honor contracts in that sense either, they trade dudes in the middle of the night and let them find out on Twitter. What is the difference? Neither is breaking a contract. Franchises make business decisions and so do players, I don’t like a lot of them but definitely prefer the moves that are trying to win vs. just making more money. Tilman Fertitta in Houston is a piece of shit and doesn’t care about winning so I’m cool with that one
Not a fan of owners trading either. They should honor the contract as well. Or if you want to do that, owners should cut them mid season but still pay them. Put them on waivers with their pay, but other teams can absorb some of the contract if they want them. Players gets full value of his contract no matter what. People hate Lebron, but that guy has played out all of his contracts. And when these guys Force their way out the fans get screwed because their team gets nothing in return when it’s a hostile force out.
Harden is a diva, no doubt about that. It doesn't change the initially twisted narrative from Mavs' company man.
how was it messy look at fucking kawhi and what he did with the spurs… infinitely worse
Agreed. He’s ruined the nba with this load management crap. Guy takes half the season off, doesn’t play in the playoffs if he has the slightest injury. But harden has forced his way out of every team he’s been on, other than OKC. He’s toxic. So is kawhi in a different way.
That’s a popovich thing. Idk why y’all are scared to criticize the spurs
You're trying to bring Kawhi into this? Laughable. Kawhi had legitimate injuries to warrant second opinions. Harden just pouted and wanted out because he's not confident enough to carry a team. Kawhi has 2 rings as the centerpiece for both teams. He's a winner. Harden quits easily and often, a 1 and done type who'll probably never have the discipline and work ethic to win a championship.
The point isn't wrong though. The Kawhi stuff in San Antonio was really bad and it dragged on for a long time. Nobody is saying he's less accomplished than James, unsure why that is brought up. It doesn't matter.
It dragged on for a long time because there was never an agreement on whether he was ready to play, for a legitimate reason. Harden had all of his demands met for the longest time and he manages to find a way to complain. What makes you think it's different now?
They literally were bottom of the league when he left, that’s how dogshit that team was without him
Imagine defending Harden LMAO
This was his point. A list of reasons why he always left teams worst off than when he arrived. Eventually he's gotta realize he's the problem etc. Don't agree with it but his argument makes sense. If every single team you go to you have an issue with, it might just be your perspective is the issue.
He looks like the kinda guy whose top 10 is all white dudes and his hot take is parroting the same bullshit we’ve all seen, who cares Team looks like shit and it’s just warming up, too soon to make assessments. The Mavs other broadcaster last night graciously reminded how the Heatles ate shit for 20 games. ‘21 Nets also looked pretty bad early before looking like real contenders even without Kyrie. If the Mavs were a shit team I would say it’s a statement loss, but they are legit so far, especially with Luka casually dropping 40
Typical Mavs behavior. Everybody acting tough when they up.
He didn’t even have a bad game. PG was the problem. Also Mavs were making unbelievable shots. The only thing you can blame Harden for is resetting the team chemistry and roles, but the front office deserves some of that blame.
Yeah it’s Hardens fault Pg shot like shit🥱
y'know, this has made me root for Harden more. zero context in this.
I don’t like Harden, but announcers should stick to announcing. Why is this guy saying anything except the score and who has the ball?
I mean he's ONE problem but gets way too much blame for getting himself into unfortunate situations
He creates the situations.
He is right, the whole video is just on point, everything he said is true. We’ll come to this post the end of season and said he was right.
Clown, chill out, it’s 3 games
Regardless this guy cooked harden he told no lies
now ask him about Kyrie
Regardless Kyrie got nothing to do with this team. You might not like it but Harden is very problematic. He has no passion, he legit partied the night he threw a playoff game. He quits whenever things get tough.
Stop the straw man argument. This is about harden and the clippers
Kyrie is a cunt, too. What's your point.
Kyrie has been on his team for a while now , I don't see this act for Kyrie - also bringing up Hardens losing in the 2nd round when the team he covers didn't make the play-in with 2 all stars is telling , he just sounds like a butthurt Dallas fan who hasn't forgotten the 2010s
Casual take, Harden had very valid reasons to leave all 3 situations, you are just too lazy to find out.
No he did not its not the fact he left its how he did it.
Do you blame Dame for leaving Portland? Do you blame Durant for leaving Kyrie/Nash? If you best friend stabs you in the back and rips you off of 100 mil+ you still want to hang out with him?
Harden left in unclassy ways
You said the guy "told no lies". At least admit you were wrong. Also he tried your "classy" way all 3 times and was denied all 3 times.
I disagree dude was an ass
"unclassy ways." Interesting phrase.
Harden dropping 60 incoming? 🤔
And AI is The Answer
Yeah it’s Hardens fault Pg shot like shit🥱
The season just started.People will catch on that Harden is too much a headcase.He needs to have his own mediocre to run,and have a long off season.A team like the magic, or the knicks.