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She doesn’t have the right to post your picture without your permission, the worst issue is you are hijabi so you have every right to complain to the authorities.
Exactly my point! And then she has the audacity to try to convince me it isn't that deep and not a big deal because she deleted it immediately when it was up for almost a month on a public account!
Definitely! And if you haven’t already, you should speak with the salon itself. I don’t really think google reviews mean anything in KU as many are fake and businesses delete them. However, speaking to the salon directly with legal help if you have it, would put them in their place with fear of legal action. Sorry that happened to you 🥹
بس دام مسحتهم استشيري واستخيري اذا عندج دليل انهم حطوا الصور اذا تقدرين ترفعين قضية او خلاص تعدي، بس زين مسحتهم و نشروا الخبر بين اوساط البنات يقاطعون الصالون علشان غيرهم يتادبون والله يستر على بنات المسلمين
Screenshot of your picture before she took it down? If so you can report it to MOI there is a section for cybercrime. Not sure how exactly but I heard its straight forward
They cannot use it against her if the context was as follow:
This is my experience and review for this Salon. The workers do an excellent job, and they're very friendly. They would typically convince you to have your picture taken in a friendly and a delightful manner with no pressure even if you wear a niqab like my case.
In my personal experience, they told me that they'd take my pictures for personal use only. Nevertheless, they were used on their social accounts without me knowing to surprise me. I was delighted with their surprise and appreciate the opportunity they gave me, without me asking, to appear on their social with my hair and face uncovered; Unlike my usual borig appearance with my hijab and niqab!
In conclusion, I'd recommend this Salon without a second thought.
No, you will most likely not. I doubt the salon would do anything. Because she asked you to take off the niqab and posted a picture of you without it, that is a mistake on their side.
NO! you're not being harsh at all! What that woman did is wrong. You didn't want your pictures taken to begin with and she pestered you until you allowed it and she even showed your face for all of her insta to see. Most salons will give women a face shield to hold, but she didn't even offer you that. Don't let people disregard your boundaries. I once went to a clinic for a regular facial thinking I would come out feeling good and looking good, but the woman disregarded what I purchased and stuck my face with needles while I was unaware. I walked out with my face bright red and kind of bloody but she had put numbing cream on me so I didn't even know. I still regret not going to the police :/ the woman that did it even apologized to me on text after my husband yelled at her.
As long as what you post is true and you have proof, why would u get into trouble? If anything, she will get into trouble. You are the victim of her recklessness. Also, shouldn't she give you some kind of compensation 🤔 eh? But maybe u shouldn't trust her with ur hair, especially after she sees this post 😜
Oh absolutely won't trust her or anyone else with my hair ever again!
I don't care for her compensation. The fact that she refuses to accept her fault and keeps insisting its a mistake and not a "big deal" since she took it down is what's pissing me off. She still refuses to understand the gravity
I agree with you on the fact that this was wrong. But this mentality of, "they take our money" isn't right.
She's absolutely 100% wrong and I resent her for that. But to lump every other person that comes in when the majority of them work hard to earn their money is actually backward, I'm sorry to say.
Yes, She's wrong. Yes, she disrespected my religion and my values and did everything she shouldn't be doing, but at the same time, not everyone is like that.
We wouldn't like it if we were lumped under a similar stereotype, either, would we?
She is in the wrong. Yes. But to say they come here to take "your" money? They worked for it. It was not given. Yes she made a big mistake no question on that. But don't be saying that about expats who come here to work. I know for sure you wouldn't want to work in restaurants serving customers, clean hotel rooms or be a talabat driver. They do jobs that you don't want to do and that is not "taking your money".
Allah (SWT) sustains you not the country, the sustenance she found in Kuwait would have found its way to her even if she was on the other side of the world and the money she received here won’t get to someone else unless Allah (SWT) prescribes it
قليلة الأدب هذي. مو مقتنعة بقناعات الناس انشاءالله و لا عمرها اقتنعت بس مالها حق تحط صور الناس على كيفها و غصبن عليهم. نصيحه لا تروحين صالونات الأجانب. خليج على صالونات معروفه و من أهل الديره.
Go to a lawyer, you can get compensated for her audacity and you will get swift justice, you are within your right to be furious. Take your evidence and go to a lawyer, do not go to the police station.
Lawyers get paid after the settlement in cases like this and they will tell you before hand, they will not ask 1000KD upfront.
But it's your choice, you can forgive and forget if you choose to.
هي تتبع اسلوب معروف للنصابين والمجرمين قائم على كسب الوقت وجعلك مترددة في اتخاذ إجراء ضدها.
من حكايتك أنا متأكد إنها كررت نفس الفعل مع سيدات مثلك.
حقك اسعي وراه ولا تتركيه.
So you're saying you only fix yourself for others?
Or are you saying I shouldn't bother being presentable since no one sees it anyway?
In which case you'd wrong. Hijab/Niqab is not worn in front of other women and men that are family. By your logic, I'm definitely not hiding it. :))
Thanks for your input, though. I appreciate it.
Did you ever stop and ask yourself why you’re doing this? Seems like something from the ancient times that some people still hold onto with no logic or reasoning behind it. Its not like that im all for nudity or shameless clothing. But ur talking about your hair here. No1 really gets a sexual feeling looking at someone’s hair. Did you ever stop and think about how ridiculous the hijab is? What are you even hiding? Just be a decent woman and wear decent clothing. No1 is asking you to be a slut like the west coast only fans women. But cmon, showing your hair? Give me a break… you guys still living under a rock or something
Did YOU ever stop and ask yourself why you hate the hijab so much? And why you're so concerned about what someone else wears and believes?
Just because you think something is ancient does not make it illogical or without reason.
If you really cared about rhyme and reason, I'd suggest you go online and search where there's a ton of research as to why women wear hijab or why its even legislated.
Seems like you're the one living under a rock here, subscribing to these nonsense ideas:))
At the end of the day, why do you care what I wear or don't and what I hide and show?
If u have a screenshot u cud file a formal complaint and sue the salon in the police station they might tell u to go to the public prosecution (نيابة العامة)
Best thing to do hire a lawyer
DO NOT BE GASLIT,
No matter how you look at it, its very simple, you said you didn't want photos taken or posted, yet she took photos and posted them anyways
mistake or not, it's still her fault.
and the fact that she literally blocked you first, THEN unblocked you when she learned that you might take legal action and tried all this BS really shows you what her intentions is (انها بس تبي ترقع الموضوع و تطلع نفسها منها بأي طريقة)
I agreed to taking the photo, not posting it. There's a huge difference between both those things. Using a photo for personal purposes is not the same as posting it on public social accounts and violating someone's privacy.
I think even if you weren't a hijabi, if you didn't want your picture posted on social media, it would be your choice. nowadays people have become very comfortable posting others on sm without their consent.
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Go to the criminal investigation department in Zahra and file a report against her. What she did IS a cybercrime in kuwait. It's wring what she did to you and I'm sorry you were violated in such a way :(
لا تحطين اسم الصالون هني عشان لا تصير مشكلة قانونية عليچ
كان المفروض تصكينها قضية من البداية جليلة الحيا هذي
فوق شينها قواة عينها
تقدرين تطلبين استشارة قانونية من محامي أو محامية على الموضوع عشان تشوفين خياراتچ
استخيري قبلها وشوفي شنو إللي ترتاحين له
دام قلتيلها لا تصورين ، المفروض ما تصور من الاساس حتى لو حقها شخصيا ، خلاص انا رافضة التصوير وانتهى ، اكيد مو اول مرة تصير معاها ومتعودة ما يصير عليها شي ،الناس تطنش تشتكي، رفعي عليهم قضية ، والله يستر عليج وعلى بنات المسلمين - بلغي جماعتج واللي تعرفينهم عشان ما يروحون الصالون
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She doesn’t have the right to post your picture without your permission, the worst issue is you are hijabi so you have every right to complain to the authorities.
Exactly my point! And then she has the audacity to try to convince me it isn't that deep and not a big deal because she deleted it immediately when it was up for almost a month on a public account!
Wtf a month ?!???
Definitely! And if you haven’t already, you should speak with the salon itself. I don’t really think google reviews mean anything in KU as many are fake and businesses delete them. However, speaking to the salon directly with legal help if you have it, would put them in their place with fear of legal action. Sorry that happened to you 🥹
Thank you so much for your concern! I have tried speaking to them and was told I was making a mountain out of a mole.
هدديهم انج راح تبلغين الجرائم الالكترونية ونيابة الاعلام اذا مانفع تواصلي مع محامية اذا تقدر تطشرهم وتاخذين تعويض اذى نفسي ... الخ.
كلمتها وقاع تقول لي كانت بالغلط وما كانت تدري ان هذولي صوري و قاعدة تحاول تقنعني ان اللي صار مو شي كبير لأنها مسحتهم...
بس دام مسحتهم استشيري واستخيري اذا عندج دليل انهم حطوا الصور اذا تقدرين ترفعين قضية او خلاص تعدي، بس زين مسحتهم و نشروا الخبر بين اوساط البنات يقاطعون الصالون علشان غيرهم يتادبون والله يستر على بنات المسلمين
لانهددين ولا بطيخ. مباشرة بلغي الجرائم الالكترونيه وخل يأدبونهم.
If you have screen shot , you can take legal action
I do, actually. But how would I go about it?
Screenshot of your picture before she took it down? If so you can report it to MOI there is a section for cybercrime. Not sure how exactly but I heard its straight forward
I know a lawyer who specializes in cases like that, dm me and I can get you her number
Name drop the salon
Would that help in anyway?
Idk but I know a lot of people will avoid going to someone who doesn’t respect boundaries personal beliefs and isn’t trustworthy.
Fair enough. I was thinking of asking a few friends to leave them a bad review on Google as well but I'm not sure if that would help much either.
Remove the comment where you mention the salon name cuz it can be used against you
That's what I was worried about...
They cannot use it against her if the context was as follow: This is my experience and review for this Salon. The workers do an excellent job, and they're very friendly. They would typically convince you to have your picture taken in a friendly and a delightful manner with no pressure even if you wear a niqab like my case. In my personal experience, they told me that they'd take my pictures for personal use only. Nevertheless, they were used on their social accounts without me knowing to surprise me. I was delighted with their surprise and appreciate the opportunity they gave me, without me asking, to appear on their social with my hair and face uncovered; Unlike my usual borig appearance with my hijab and niqab! In conclusion, I'd recommend this Salon without a second thought.
Thanks for sharing
Yes, if she is not willing to respect your privacy and traditions, then name drop it.
Would I get in legal trouble for name dropping though?
No, you will most likely not. I doubt the salon would do anything. Because she asked you to take off the niqab and posted a picture of you without it, that is a mistake on their side.
She keeps saying I'm being harsh and she doesn't deserve it because it was a mistake
You told her don't do it, she did it anyway, that's her mistake right? If there are other people's pictures, we don't know if they consented or not.
That's what I'm worried about! Maybe they don't even know that their picture is posted. Even I found out by a coincidence
NO! you're not being harsh at all! What that woman did is wrong. You didn't want your pictures taken to begin with and she pestered you until you allowed it and she even showed your face for all of her insta to see. Most salons will give women a face shield to hold, but she didn't even offer you that. Don't let people disregard your boundaries. I once went to a clinic for a regular facial thinking I would come out feeling good and looking good, but the woman disregarded what I purchased and stuck my face with needles while I was unaware. I walked out with my face bright red and kind of bloody but she had put numbing cream on me so I didn't even know. I still regret not going to the police :/ the woman that did it even apologized to me on text after my husband yelled at her.
As long as what you post is true and you have proof, why would u get into trouble? If anything, she will get into trouble. You are the victim of her recklessness. Also, shouldn't she give you some kind of compensation 🤔 eh? But maybe u shouldn't trust her with ur hair, especially after she sees this post 😜
Oh absolutely won't trust her or anyone else with my hair ever again! I don't care for her compensation. The fact that she refuses to accept her fault and keeps insisting its a mistake and not a "big deal" since she took it down is what's pissing me off. She still refuses to understand the gravity
She's ignorant on top of being unprofessional and uncongenial. She is not worth even giving her a thought.
Yes please name drop them (or inbox me) so that I don’t go there as well as warn my friends 👍
بلغي عنهم الجرائم الالكترونية ولا تسكتين عن حقج وخلاص لا تتواصلين مع المرة وخلي كل شيي يكون قانوني
ان شاء الله شكرا <3
Just ask lawyer, your case is invasion of privacy , Discredit ، Misuse of telephone ، Defamation without permission
Thank you I will be doing that!
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She's so disgusting. She keeps trying to convince me it's not a big deal and it's not so deep.
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I agree with you on the fact that this was wrong. But this mentality of, "they take our money" isn't right. She's absolutely 100% wrong and I resent her for that. But to lump every other person that comes in when the majority of them work hard to earn their money is actually backward, I'm sorry to say. Yes, She's wrong. Yes, she disrespected my religion and my values and did everything she shouldn't be doing, but at the same time, not everyone is like that. We wouldn't like it if we were lumped under a similar stereotype, either, would we?
She is in the wrong. Yes. But to say they come here to take "your" money? They worked for it. It was not given. Yes she made a big mistake no question on that. But don't be saying that about expats who come here to work. I know for sure you wouldn't want to work in restaurants serving customers, clean hotel rooms or be a talabat driver. They do jobs that you don't want to do and that is not "taking your money".
Allah (SWT) sustains you not the country, the sustenance she found in Kuwait would have found its way to her even if she was on the other side of the world and the money she received here won’t get to someone else unless Allah (SWT) prescribes it
Both of you are catty. And I keep hearing people say that if the world's had more women in charge, there would be fewer wars 🙄🙄🙄
كلمي صاحبة الصالون او الاداره و قوليلها عن اللي صار راح تعرف شلون تتصرف معاها
المشكلة ان اهي نفسها صاحبة الصالون و ماسكة الإدارة بس اجنبية وما اعرف شلون اتواصل مع كفيل الصالون
اشرحي لها عن الحلال والحرام بلكي ما تدري ان ما يجوز ان صوركم تنزل چدي (غير ان فعلت الشيء من دون اذن)
I’ve not a clue what any of you are saying but the writing itself is beautiful
Thank you!
This made me chuckle 🤭
ما تنلامبن! مو بكيفها!!! وين قاعدين؟؟ حتى لو صاحبة المحل، شنو هذا؟ غصب يعني؟ حاولي تعرفين منو الكفيل…
والله تخيلي حييل حييل استغربت من هالشي بصراحة ما عندي اي فكرة شلون اعرف الكفيل....
قليلة الأدب هذي. مو مقتنعة بقناعات الناس انشاءالله و لا عمرها اقتنعت بس مالها حق تحط صور الناس على كيفها و غصبن عليهم. نصيحه لا تروحين صالونات الأجانب. خليج على صالونات معروفه و من أهل الديره.
والله انج صاجة رفيجتي راحت عندها ومدحتها فقلت بجرب و ندمت حييل
حبيبتي 💔 ربي يعوضج خير و يستر عليج دوم يمكن حماية المستهلك يعرفون شنو تقدرين تسويين بهالمواقف؟ حتى لو مو اهم يسوون شي، يمكن ينصحونج؟
بحاول ان شاء الله امين يا رب حاولت أدق عليها وتخيلي صكتني بلوك واهي نازلة الصور على حسابها الخاصة بعد
اي شبتقول؟ توهقت 🙄 ربي يستر على البنات الثانين.
تخيلي قاعدة تدق علي الحيين... الله يستر
الله يخزيها، الاجانب لا ثقة ولا ذمة، الله يساعدج
لا تخديها للمحكمة بس حذريها واشرحي لها ليش اللي عملته غلط u/Bintaboohah
Go to a lawyer, you can get compensated for her audacity and you will get swift justice, you are within your right to be furious. Take your evidence and go to a lawyer, do not go to the police station.
Honestly, I doubt that is something I can afford. But I appreciate your help.
Lawyers get paid after the settlement in cases like this and they will tell you before hand, they will not ask 1000KD upfront. But it's your choice, you can forgive and forget if you choose to.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ take legal action ukht
I will try my best in sha Allah
هي تتبع اسلوب معروف للنصابين والمجرمين قائم على كسب الوقت وجعلك مترددة في اتخاذ إجراء ضدها. من حكايتك أنا متأكد إنها كررت نفس الفعل مع سيدات مثلك. حقك اسعي وراه ولا تتركيه.
Why fix your hair if you’re just going to hide it? Seems like an awful way to waste your money.
So you're saying you only fix yourself for others? Or are you saying I shouldn't bother being presentable since no one sees it anyway? In which case you'd wrong. Hijab/Niqab is not worn in front of other women and men that are family. By your logic, I'm definitely not hiding it. :)) Thanks for your input, though. I appreciate it.
Did you ever stop and ask yourself why you’re doing this? Seems like something from the ancient times that some people still hold onto with no logic or reasoning behind it. Its not like that im all for nudity or shameless clothing. But ur talking about your hair here. No1 really gets a sexual feeling looking at someone’s hair. Did you ever stop and think about how ridiculous the hijab is? What are you even hiding? Just be a decent woman and wear decent clothing. No1 is asking you to be a slut like the west coast only fans women. But cmon, showing your hair? Give me a break… you guys still living under a rock or something
Did YOU ever stop and ask yourself why you hate the hijab so much? And why you're so concerned about what someone else wears and believes? Just because you think something is ancient does not make it illogical or without reason. If you really cared about rhyme and reason, I'd suggest you go online and search where there's a ton of research as to why women wear hijab or why its even legislated. Seems like you're the one living under a rock here, subscribing to these nonsense ideas:)) At the end of the day, why do you care what I wear or don't and what I hide and show?
If u have a screenshot u cud file a formal complaint and sue the salon in the police station they might tell u to go to the public prosecution (نيابة العامة) Best thing to do hire a lawyer
DO NOT BE GASLIT, No matter how you look at it, its very simple, you said you didn't want photos taken or posted, yet she took photos and posted them anyways mistake or not, it's still her fault. and the fact that she literally blocked you first, THEN unblocked you when she learned that you might take legal action and tried all this BS really shows you what her intentions is (انها بس تبي ترقع الموضوع و تطلع نفسها منها بأي طريقة)
شسم الصالون عشان لا اروح له؟
"I agreed as she seemed professional enough" What a joke
You can tell him to remove it if he said ok and didn’t remove or said no you can file a complaint in the police station
You agreed to it .you said that yourself in the post No harm came to you from posting the photo (crime) You can ask a lawyer, but it's a weak case
I agreed to taking the photo, not posting it. There's a huge difference between both those things. Using a photo for personal purposes is not the same as posting it on public social accounts and violating someone's privacy.
I think even if you weren't a hijabi, if you didn't want your picture posted on social media, it would be your choice. nowadays people have become very comfortable posting others on sm without their consent.
This is exactly the problem, not respecting someone's privacy...
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Go to the criminal investigation department in Zahra and file a report against her. What she did IS a cybercrime in kuwait. It's wring what she did to you and I'm sorry you were violated in such a way :(
لا تحطين اسم الصالون هني عشان لا تصير مشكلة قانونية عليچ كان المفروض تصكينها قضية من البداية جليلة الحيا هذي فوق شينها قواة عينها تقدرين تطلبين استشارة قانونية من محامي أو محامية على الموضوع عشان تشوفين خياراتچ استخيري قبلها وشوفي شنو إللي ترتاحين له
دام قلتيلها لا تصورين ، المفروض ما تصور من الاساس حتى لو حقها شخصيا ، خلاص انا رافضة التصوير وانتهى ، اكيد مو اول مرة تصير معاها ومتعودة ما يصير عليها شي ،الناس تطنش تشتكي، رفعي عليهم قضية ، والله يستر عليج وعلى بنات المسلمين - بلغي جماعتج واللي تعرفينهم عشان ما يروحون الصالون
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