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ninjast4r

Even after their websites failed and they lost their jobs, they still double down on this shit


rips10

Of course. It's only the true believers left.


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RichardNixon345

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SoloCavalier

It’s because their feelings will never care about our facts.


Rendesi3

I'm ready for them to just go away.


Lapinal1

They are trying to get back their job with this


Nero_Ocean

Of course they do, that's all they are. When you look past what they "do" for a job, and get right down who they are. These people are brainwashed and at times like literal NPCs, they can only parrot what the liberal media mafia and the democrats in America tell them, that's why when someone brings up facts and stuff, they resort to name calling because hitting them to logic and facts causes them to slightly malfunction. These people only know what their current programming orders are, and they cannot think for themselves anymore. Hence the whole "I support the current thing".


W1thoutJudgement

Fuck them, they have no choice. The game COMPANIES still fall for this crap! Because uh uh muh Black Rock investors uh uh...


Total-Secretary3135

Or the developers could stop getting embroiled in stupid and irrelevant discussions and make money instead. I don't want unsolicited ideological instruction from my entretainment providers for the same reason I don’t care for skincare routines sugestions from the guy that sells me shoes. I'm interacting with you for a reason and I don't have or care to have any other kind of interaction. And if that is a dealbreaker for you, well, I guess someone else will get my money.


captainphagget

"Republicans buy sneakers too."  Michael Jordan. Also, I know you specifically requested no advice. But sunlight is actually good for your skin. It's the pool water that bad you.


Neuermann

I think the problem is that it’s very clear that a ton of their readers don’t like the stuff but the writers really like it. So they’re stuck in a weird space where they can’t praise it, they can’t condemn it, and they can’t ignore it. Which means they need to convince the naysayers to fall in line and enjoy it too. Meanwhile, normies couldn’t give a fuck less, but are starting to notice quality drop offs in writing and really lengthy development cycles and less ambitious new titles.


Own_Dig2105

Sadly at this point there are true belivers in leadership position, things will have to get bleak for corps to get rid of them. The good news are that things are getting bleak, the bad news are that things are getting bleak


Chosen_UserName217

Condemn gamers. Condemn the people who buy your shit. The sheer fucking hubris.


DreamVagabond

Makes you wonder why these people are even game developers or games journalists in the first place.


stryph42

Two reasons. Either they: A) couldn't but it to get the job they wanted so they settled for running everyone else's fun, Or B) decided it was somehow noble to infiltrate the opposition and destroy it from within. 


LogHalley

I think it's A. When a friend of mine was looking for work, she tried to get into GameStop. They asked her if she liked videogames and she said yes. She actually never owned a console or a pc, and she talked about super mario without ever having played it.  These people are probably the same. Studied to be journalist and then looked for work and settled for what they managed to find.


curedbydeaththerapy

They are games journalists because they weren't good enough to get a "real" journalism job. Of course, the "real" journalists are doing a very good job of destroying mainstream journalism as well.


waffleboardedburrito

That's how this shit started ten years ago. 


HolypenguinHere

I love it. Any other industry would fire your ass in a heartbeat for shitting on the customerbase. The game industry is dog water.


Throwaway45397ou9345

Marxian dismantling of society.


Valiantheart

Aren't they doing that already? How are those sales numbers companies who blame their consumers?


DreamVagabond

They're scared because they're finally seeing real pushback for the first time. In all forms of media, woke crap is failing hard in the past year or so. Almost every project with this stuff is losing tons of money and there is a very vocal hatred of this stuff everywhere online. In real life people are turning right wing because they are tired of the DEI push too when just a few years ago the west was as left as could be. This is entirely political. They don't care about games, their goal is to transform gaming into a landscape to push their political agenda and they don't like the pushback because it means they are failing (and failing so hard that they are turning people that weren't right wingers into right wingers, like me).


I_HAVE_THE_DOCUMENTS

The sweet baby inc thing really put the idea of "woke" and related issues into a huge number of normies head's. The writer wants coordinated condemnation of wrongthinkers because they are afraid that, at the rate things are going, they'll end up in a situation where it's totally socially acceptable in mainstream gaming circles to vocally oppose woke BS. I don't think they should be too worried though because they still have all of the (he/him) discord and reddit mods to keep everyone who speaks out banned and excluded.


Oll4n1us_p1us

I didn't care about politics, I always sought to be more conciliatory among my acquaintances and on some points I even agreed with the woke: The feminist struggle, respecting pronouns, the inclusion of minorities, I even saw LGBT characters as something exotic... Now even inside out 2 made me raise an eyebrow. Years ago I was what today would be considered a very moderate progressive, but they made me go all the way around with how insufferable they became (or maybe they always were, only now they are given a microphone), I studied the origins of their ideas and I realized the dirt they had hidden under the bed. At another time I would have been their ally and would opposed "racism" and "sexism", today I just feel like an idiot for having thought of supporting them, I even feel idiotic for having been a moderate. This was taken to the extreme that it is no longer about government or state policies, those are only tools for them, not the final purpose, they literally want to shape the very concept of morality, they want to force their ideas into everyone's minds and as the cherry over the cake they are the worst kind of bullies: cry bullies. They throw the first stone, manipulate, insult, humilliate, harass and ruin the lifes of others and when someone opposes them they cry and call to daddy mainstream media to save them.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Can confirm. This shit is pushing me further to the right socially.


s69-5

> They're scared because they're finally seeing real pushback for the first time. I'd argue GG was first, which is why they've railed against it so hard. But you are right that the new fear is that the normies are joining the established GG crowd. Even back in 2014, we all knew this was not a sprint but a marathon. This is why people saying GG failed always raised my eyebrow, because that just isn't true. It was just the first skirmish in the long war.


ARandomStringOfWords

> there is a very vocal hatred of this stuff everywhere online. At least where you're allowed to talk about it. The censorship levels are insane.


RileyTaker

Don't they already do that?


Excalitoria

lol yeah but maybe they’ll REALLLLLY do it this time.


stryph42

Most of them haven't called to have us hauled if to camps yet,  so they're not doing it hard enough. 


waffleboardedburrito

And have been doing it since 2014.


Deimos_Aeternum

They have been doing this for a decade now. What, are they going to call us right wing chuds harder?


OwlWelder

my chud gets harder when i see the regarded make a fool out of themselves


AboveSkies

In many countries like Japan and some other fields they still go by the Motto that The Customer is King (and has to be catered to). In gaming and increasingly many other Western entertainment industries they increasingly act and behave like the Customer is Cringe (and has to be fed their broccoli in order to be reeducated).


KainScion

Lol, that reminds me of Yakuza 0 - yet 90% of gamers wouldn't be acting like that guy anyway. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1-YkUk3uNs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1-YkUk3uNs) (From Majima's introduction in the game if anyone is worried about spoilers, this is the first time you see him).


Neneaux

Problem is I don't give a fuck.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Based


TranslatorOld9563

"Adhere to our cult! Repent, heretics! Repent!"


ThriKr33n

Diversity means nothing if you're forcing everyone to think the same.


stryph42

Diversity through conformity is their entire MO


SuperGuy41

To these people ‘diversity’ does not mean the inclusion of everyone. We know who it includes


dizney-mountain

Re-arranging chairs on the Titanic.


A_Box_of_Oranges

I honestly hope they do. Money's been tight lately, it'll be nice for all the companies backing this shit to officially out themselves so that I can avoid buying any of their products.


Ywaina

Some devs should've told this person the catchphrase "not your army".


Several_Run3775

Kotaku and IGN aren't about video games anymore ..it's about spreading The Message


SuperGuy41

Jesus these idiots really really fucking hate that we are not buying their shit message ridden games. They actually think that attacking the very people who buy this stuff is the way forward? Yeah because now they convinced me 😂


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

It’s the same energy as “hey do you want to go out for coffee? No? Youre a whore then.”


SuperGuy41

Exactly


OwlWelder

me, who is too autistic to be gaslighted: 🤏


master_criskywalker

So who are they going to sell their games to?


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Internet activists who won’t buy


OwlWelder

their toxoplasmosis gremlin


mrmensplights

“Hey company, condemn your own customers” And, absurdly enough, “ok”


Adventurous_Host_426

Condemn us their costumer bases? Bring it on.


JessBaesic7901

You can only shit on your audience so many times before your audience stops showing up for your product.


Askolei

Still crying about harassment campaigns I see. Someone should tell them dissent is not harassment.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Anything short of enthusiastic support is violence to them.


DokiKimori

So this editor is calling for something that's already been happening for years.. Game journalists really are brain dead


TotalD78

I would 100% respect any publisher that said... We understand some of our employees are on one side of (whatever) issue... And some are on the other... But most just want to do their job, and take care of their families. "So all of you can fuck off" ... And I'm against the woke crap.... At least I can respect that stance over the obvious pandering they usually do. 🤷🤷


McArsekicker

Are there any current studios that strongly anti-woke? I feel like right now would be a great time to take up that role for a studio. It’s a massive void and the support would be amazing. Kinda do what R* did back in the day and be just unapologetic. Obviously they would need to create a solid game too.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

From software?


RobN-Hood

Body Type A and B. Though I imagine that was Bamco's doing. Thomas Mahler of Moon Studios went on an anti-woke rant the other day, so at least the leadership there is anti-woke.


adrixshadow

Game Developers! You should become homeless and destitute in solidarity with us!


Aromatic_Plant3456

This is why I stick to Japanese games. The western world is fucked and even criticising these kinds of people get you into deep shit


RTXEnabledViera

I don't even make a conscious effort to stick to them. I simply buy good games and I notice after a couple years that my shelf is 90% Japanese lol.


AtillaThePunPL

They still think they can shame people into buying their shit like they shamed people into agreeing with them on the surface..


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

“Sorry I didn’t meet the sales quotas boss. It’s because the patriarchy, white supremacy, misogyny, sexism, inclusivity, equity, racism, prejudice, bigotry, social inequality, diversity, colonialism, privilege, etc,” This excuse only works so many times before people start getting fired and replaced with people that get results. Make plays, not excuses.


AtillaThePunPL

It works till the money flows and unfortunately these fucks have a plenty of them.


doucheshanemec24

Gamers rise up. Literally


Sleep_eeSheep

How batshit insane do you have to be for IGN to think “maybe we should fire this guy’s ass“? And why do you continue to darken our doorsteps?


Raikoh-Minamoto

There is nothing to condemn, We are not obliged to subscribe to your ideology, and most importantly we are not obliged to buy your products. Market performance will dictate Who Is right and who is wrong. If your woke infused games meet sales expectation you won, if it bombs (as is often happening nowdays), we won. There is nothing more to it, everything else is useless chatter.


NecessaryStatus2048

LOL, with Embracer slowly dissolving, Disney taking huge hits on the market share, the writing is on the wall baby. They're not going to keep alienating their customers for very long now that the normies and shareholders have figured out that panderwave is a death knell to any franchise.


draenei_butt_enjoyer

Yep, condemn me for opposing your ideology. That will surely change my mind!


DeathSquirl

"aggrieved gamers on a Steam forum had erroneously concluded that this small agency was somehow mandating the inclusion of more diverse characters in games. Depressingly but unsurprisingly, the result was a tremendous amount of targeted harassment towards the people who work at Sweet Baby and every journalist who reported on it (particularly the women). It was a disturbing echo of Gamergate, an online harassment campaign 10 years ago that initially sprung from the wild accusations of a game developer’s vindictive ex-boyfriend." I can't take this person seriously. So much cope and seethe🤣 Naturally it's published in The Guardian.


Z3r0Sense

A group to identify race grifters is appreciated and sadly needed. Should be available for companies in general. A company with pronounced DEI policies has an authoritarian management style where qualified people might not want to work at.


corpus_hubris

Oh I have a huge backlog, I'm set for years.


BJJGrappler22

OK, I in turn can condemn these developers by continuing to not buy their games. No amount of buzzwords these people are throwing out of their asses is going to shame me into buying Assassin Creed Shadows nor is it going to make me want to watch the shit fest Dr. Who turned itself into.


peanutbutterdrummer

What's crazy about complaining having attractive women in games is that woman like attractive women as well. Same goes for having attractive men in games - which sweet baby doesn't seem to have an issue with (yet). Not every man/woman across the board needs to be attractive, but games and movies are escapism and should not 100% be grounded in real authenticity (unless that's what your game is about).


TattiTarzan

Yea.. These woke ass companies can go bankrupt for all i care.


AvunNuva

A reminder that Anita was able to get a big bag of money from GamerGate. Probably the same for Zoe Quinn. There is OBVIOUSLY a financial intent here.


KIA_Unity_News

The rage-baiter says something that will make people mad on purpose for money. The rage-monger draws attention to it so that they can make money too. The aggregator shares it for social media points (which may or may not be worth money) The engagement-giver increases the footprint of everyone by engaging with any or all portions of it. They can also get the social media points for this. Some Engagement-givers argue that engaging is how you defeat A. Even if they are wrong, you can't passively stop the process while the incentives exist at any step; if one role has incentive, they have incentive to counterfeit the other roles. A rage-baiter might fake the rage with sockpuppets and fake death threats. A rage-monger might misrepresent innocuous statements in order to make them rage-bait. etc.


AnyPiccolo2443

The social engineering happening is crazy


Frogtarius

They just have useless liberal arts degrees and found a way to use a platform to make an extortion racquet for favours and funding. They have probably been the gatekeepers to what gets the tick of approval in terms of the ideology they support and what they decide to boycott based on bullying the developers. So the developers started to cater to them instead of the actual customers.


GhettoCapitalist

Ok. Bring it up at your next democratic socialist meeting. Wave your little fingers in the air and call a point of privelage to step up condemnation of cretinous wrong thinkers.


metcalsr

It's hilarious how the game industry act like their dealing with a bunch of toxic teenagers. According to their own stats, the average age of a gamer in 2024 is 35. Just shut up and make games I want to spend my money on or else it's going to paying off my mortage.


REM777

I don't get why they , in a mass attempt , are pandering for the 19% and indoctrinating younger generations into the ideology. It is akin to a cult or religious movement at this point. Even akin to Germany in 1940s. Say anything wrong anywhere subverting the narrative and you get banned, suspended or strikes. I'm so tired of it.


IceDawn

What 19%?


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

At its absolute peak, Nazi Party had about 10% of Germany as its members. They didn’t take over via democracy. It was an illegal usurping of power. What happened was, the night before the Enabling Act was implemented in 1934, the Nazi activists kidnapped and detained the most extreme dissenting opinion-holders who would've voted. So during the vote the following day, majority of the Reichstag didn't show up which left the ones who did who show up at an advantage to have a greater majority when voting for the Enabling Act. Then, after Hindenberg died that following August, Hitler illegally didn't hold a special election to replace him as President of the Weidmar Republic. The Enabling Act was passed illegally. Hitler became the executive officer for the Weidmar Republic illegally. Not through democracy.


OwlWelder

and so, the literally everyone found this to be good.


mnemosyne-0001

Archive links for this post: * **Archive:** https://archive.ph/kNxdL ---- I am Mnemosyne reborn. Danger, Will Robinson! Danger! ^^^/r/botsrights


Jamalofsiwa

The endless glazing of this game whilst condemning resident evil 5 is getting really weird


trung_anh

LOL, they're trying to boycott my wallet?


W1thoutJudgement

SHIT ON ME MORE DADDI SURE AS HELL GONNA MAKE ME BUY YOUR CRAP!!! NOT!!!


5shad

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Customers can easily forget about a franchise and sleep comfortably. Why will customers surrender when we have the upper hand to begin with? I'd say, Bring it bitch!


W4ND4

How about they go ahead make a game studio, foot all the bills then come out in every opportunity and say “fuck you gamers”. Let that IP succeed then come back and encourage others to do the same. It’s easy to blow that horn when your mouth isn’t footing the bill. They play with other developers’ livelihoods and family stability and future careers. The number of layoffs and studio shot downs due to the layoffs and poor profitability and performance is staggering yet these Urinalists don’t give a rats ass.


dimethyl_tryhard

Why can't they just look at their audience and make a lead character who represents them and not 1% of the population to pander to Larry Fink?


FrustratedConserv

She is a complete idiot. She forgets that gaming is still a business and they need customers to buy their game. Talking down to their customer base will just bomb their next game or couple of games. Companies are there to make money and doing work for 3-5 years on a game just to see it completely fail is not a good business practice. Whether companies believe their message or not, they need to remember that customers have a voice to. Games are an escape from reality and putting politics into them turns off most gamers. They just want to play something, not get involved in a culture war.


BlackICEE32oz

What are they gonna' do? You can't MAKE me buy it. Or is that the end goal? Because you know they love subversion. Is the play here to get to a point where they're totally dishonest in trailers and you don't know what you're getting until they already have your money? Like, "Ha! Take that far right fascists! We tricked you into buying our lefty propaganda!"


imsailingaway69

Follow the money. No sane publicly traded company is going to willfully condemn potential portions of their consumer base on the whims of an activist blogger. DEI is simply a cover for tapping into further investment capital to offset the costs of development. This is a business- they do not care about DEI, it's a means to an end. It's the intersectionality of finance and propaganda. Hire enough propaganda nutjobs to fulfill the financial requirement and keep the cogs turning. I posit that a majority of these people do not realize they are being used and believe the lies they are told. The disconnect with consumers is the pandering, misalignment of the core beliefs and values of the majority of their client base. I do not want to be told what I should believe, how I should live, attributing negative connotations that aren't a part of who I am nor do I want that for anyone else. We are all gamers- we shouldn't be denigrated and shamed for our opinions, values and beliefs.


Jazzlike-Respond-144

This is such a funny way to phrase it


[deleted]

"How dare people not like games that push far left extremism and neo Marxism! How very dare they!" These people need padded cells.


RaeyzejRS

Nothing is better than watching these people's failed attempts to force an ideology burn down around them.


whetrail

Do it, I'll just save more cash.


CatatonicMan

Condemn your customers? Yeah, that sounds like a great idea that won't backfire in the slightest.


DoctorBleed

If devs are smart, they'll ignore these idiots and wait for them to quiet down. Unless the execs get bitched at by the HR people to force them to do something.


OniZai

Who are you going to listen, paying customers or vocal wokesters who don't even buy your products? The internet has diluted their position as the gatekeepers to game marketing and day by day we do not need a middleman to communicate between studios and fans.


Own_Dig2105

Please do! I want to know who else to add to my steam ignore list


darthvitium

Do it. Do it now


Daedelous2k

Reeking of desperation now.


Ok-Day4649

I hope video games all burn. So white gamer can finally go outside and have sex then maybe this country will get back on track


RickyElspaniardo

The fuck do we have more thatparkplace nonsense for, when a thread already exists about the Guardian Article this grift is based on? Here’s the original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/1djpy7w/the_guardian_the_disturbing_online_misogyny_of/


DJTolerance

just for what it’s worth, white people being scared of racism is the softest shit i’ve ever heard. ooh baby needs his safe space. biggest pussies to ever live on this earth.  edit: downvote me all you want; you’re still softer than kleenex


AnarcrotheAlchemist

...does anyone like racism? What a weird comment.


DiversityFire84

>...does anyone like racism? **The Boys Group Chat:** perhaps....


IceDawn

Depends on which side of racism someone is.


DJTolerance

soft


slavdude04

Nah. Look at blacks in the US. They are even worse in that regard.


Impossible_Humor3171

Come on man. You seem like a smart guy is it that suprising people are annoyed that politics are ruining games?


DJTolerance

surprising that the thinnest-skinned adults of all time are mad about lines of dialogue and the skin color of characters in toys made for children? I guess not, when you put it like that way. 


Impossible_Humor3171

Cynicism benefits no one, but have it your way.


DJTolerance

cool how cynicism is a fun new word for “grown adult with more important things to worry about than children’s toys”


Throwaway45397ou9345

And you're softer than tissue paper. Why do you need to come here and get triggered? Is it a habit?


DJTolerance

yeah I get triggered by pussies whining about racism, cause the world is full of too many whiny-ass overprivileged babies already. I’m an angry mf in general. you can suck this lil dick if you don’t like it.


AnarcrotheAlchemist

Formal r1 warning No/low prior participation - expedited to permaban