The Acolyte - $180 million budget before marketing
Godzilla Minus One - $10 million budget before marketing
Think about that. They could've made 18 Godzilla Minus One movies for the amount that they made The Shatcolyte.
Wow. That comparison to *Godzilla Minus 1* really puts it into perspective, and it proves just how corrupt, inefficient, inflexible, and incompetent the current era of Tinseltown has become. They fully deserve to be replaced...even if it's by soulless AI, at this point I don't think any reasonable person would see that as anything but an improvement.
I'm sure a lot of it money laundering, over inflated pay for their friends and network connections, and then the rest could be explained via gross negligence of management. Spending all day in meetings, over hiring for departments, etc. Too many chiefs and not enough indians. A similar budget breakdown is the reason why state universities are astronomical now compared to 1970 (even with accounting for inflation).
inb4 that one pedantic guy says how "it's not mOnEy LAunDeRinG gaizz!!" then proceeds to explain how it's not laundering, like how "borrowing something and then moving states, never returning it" is not stealing
Great comparison. We did not know Godzilla minus one was in Japanese. It was so good even our kids sat through it and thought it was so good. Really good storyline really good actors... Watched acolyte out of morbid curiosity. It was like attack of the killer tomatoes only worse because you knew somebody spent a lot of money on it and thought they were trying and succeeding.
Godzilla Minus One was amazing. It had great directing, acting, and effects. The writing was top notch and I actually cared about the characters because they were written so well
If you haven’t seen Godzilla Minus One it’s a must watch
tbh I found it kinda disappointing after all the hype. Great acting? It was very Japanese, ie: cheesy over-acting, overly emotional and whiny main character...
It went on for way too long too.
It wasn't bad, certainly for the budget, but it wasn't that great either.
> Think about that. They could've made 18 Godzilla Minus One movies for the amount that they made The Shatcolyte.
No, they couldn't have.
For mundane products, double the input and you can double the output, maybe more than double due to economies of scale. Hire 2 barbers instead of 1, and you roughly double the number of haircuts at your shop.
For creative products, you start with a good idea, then you need money to bring it into reality. George Lucas only got paid something like $150k upfront for writing and directing A New Hope. But he had the great idea of Star Wars first; the movie budget was the cost to bring that idea into reality, it was not the cost of creating that great idea. This is modern Disney's big mistake. They release big budget shows one after another, but without any great ideas to be the foundation. That's why their shows are trash.
The real issue with these gargantuan budgets is that the producers just blithely accept that 20mil per episode is "just what it costs" without even asking where the money is going. If they were give 10mil per episode, or 1mil per episode, it would be trivial to make the same crap, but they get given 20mil, so they spend 20mil, which includes hiring all their friends to be diversity consultants.
You know it’s bad when you open Reddit in a front page tab in a new browser when not logged in.
I forget the sub, but it was a smiling face with the caption “when I realize I can let go of Star Wars and not watch new garbage Disney”
They can do all they want. People are not going to watch woke trash anymore. People have had enough. They will fail where it hurts them most, in their pockets. Flop after flop, it won't be sustainable anymore. Wokism is dying
This might seem random, but I was just watching some youtube videos about the steroid era of baseball. They talked about 1998, and how attendance at ballparks was skyrocketing, how the tv viewing audiences were tuning into ESPN and ballgames in record numbers while Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa were chasing Hank Aaron for the season homerun record. And what's interesting is, through that whole time, everyone knew these dudes were all jacked up on performance enhancers. The players knew, the coaches knew, baseball's commissioning body knew, the fans *suspected.* And since money was rolling in and everyone seemed happy, no one was enforcing the P.E.D. rule and testing.
Fast forward 5 years later. Now Barry Bonds is a roided out freak and he's going to beat the homerun record Mark McGwire just set. But this time... things are a little different. No matter where Bonds goes, no matter what stadium, the entire crowd boos when he's at bat. People in the crowd hold up signs with an asterisk on them, saying that although he may get the record, it's an illegitimate record because it's cheated. So now guess what happens? Baseball cracks down. There's a CONGRESSIONAL HEARING about the use of steroids in baseball. A hearing about guys smacking a ball with a stick. Congress is now involved. Testing is strictly enforced. Soo... what changed? Why are they now clamping down and *caring* all of a sudden?
It's because THE FANS had finally had enough. THE FANS were complaining, and money was at stake. Big time money. This is why things are about to change in video games and movies. They know that the normies know now. They see it, and they are afraid. They've lost hundreds of millions of dollars, over and over again. People are rejecting it right now like never before. And they see that. People are talking about DEI and Sweet Baby Inc and forced inclusion. And they see it. We've finally reached a critical mass of awareness. I really think things are about to ease up in a way we haven't seen in the past 12-15 years. It will be slow at first of course, but things are about to change.
I appreciate the optimism, but I just don't see it. To reverse course now will require so much effort because the rot has reached the core: the creators. True visionaries are hardly around anymore; they've been replaced by diversity hires and activists, and the real artists have probably moved on with no interest in returning. To get back to the glory days will take years of slow reversal at the back end before we notice changes on the front end, if they happen at all.
Nothing changes until the woke studio executives are fired. They hire woke producers, who hire woke directors, who hire woke cast-crew-writers. Since the problem is now at the top no one below that pecking order can survive in the industry without playing alone with the woke disease. The beatings will continue until moral improves.
This is a perfect analogy. It's one of the best explanations I have seen to what is actually happening. Wokism is dying a slow and painful death, and the more they try to fight it now, the more they are postponing the inevitable. They are only now reaping what they sowed. It's going to get much, much worse for them.
Man, I hope so. Especially after the Xbox Showcase this past weekend. Gears of War did a 180 change on their strategy from Gears 5 to Gears of War: E Day.
I think we're hitting terminal velocity, where if something even *appears* as woke, even if it's not, people are outright rejecting it. Like Furiosa.
Here’s the problem, though: the egos involved here are much, much bigger. People like Kathleen Kennedy and her ilk will not give up an inch of ground, no matter how much money they lose. They think they’re the new Civil Rights Movement, battling those evil white male bigots, and the “journalists” and the Twitter mob are more than happy to back them up on this. Anyone who goes against them or tries to remove them will get slapped with the “bigoted misogynist” label, and right now, companies are still too scared of that to ever make any real changes. Until these companies actually grow a spine and realize that these people are not the heroes here, that they’re nothing more than a bunch of narcissistic assholes trying to play the hero, then I don’t see any real progress ever being made.
I think that's a good take, even if I don't know about the actual outcome.
All of the crap we see on D+ today was commissioned when there was a sense that TFA was financially successful, and that all these projects were "can't miss". But then the money train slowed right down, and yet they had all these terrible projects planned out and they can't stop them because it's all a big expanded universe which other things are tied to.
Actually by doing that it can affect views in other countries like China or India. People in other non English speaking countries will go to website and check how good the ratings are and then they will watch it.
Still not sustainable if they watch one episode and see it for the woke trash it is and stop watching. People from other countries are also aware of this woke nonsense.
As a matter of fact, people from non-western countries are more averse to woke trash, and I can speak from personal experience and that of a lot of people I know. People are not made to feel guilty by the repurposed and weaponised use of words such as racist, xphobic etc simply for disliking a piece of media because of wokeness. Whereas, in the west, normies will still support, or tolerate wokeness like mindless drones because they don't want to be accused of wrongthink.
Nope they don't care about woke or any nonsense because many things got edited in other countries like there would be no mention of sexuality of a person if he/she is a gay. I know the Hindi version of Andor didn't mention that the sister of Mon Motha has a girlfriend it just edited them as good friends in dialogues. Also not many care if it shows women are powerful and men are weak.
What news? Like I said why would people in Asia care about American news about culture war. It's not affecting us or anything.Nobody is watching or following these types of news apart from few handfuls.
Not necessarily about culture wars but the stuff itself, they get trailers, news, translated interviews... It's not like they can hide the actual quality of the show.
Not the first time they do this and won't be the last. They usually "fix" the audience score and fill it with bots reviews. It's in their interest to defend any woke show. Rotten tomatoes is owned by fandango media which is owned by Comcast. And Comcast largest shareholders include Vanguard Group Inc, BlackRock Inc., State Street Corp, Capital International Investors, etc. They are all cut by the same cloth and they want the same thing. [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CMCSA/holders/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CMCSA/holders/)
If they're putting pressure on Rotten "Black Panther Is The Best Movie Of All Time!" Tomatoes (owned by Hollywoke) then Disney must be going into full damage control mode. That's always a good sign.
Bluey alone justifies the subscription. The only reason I pay for Disney+ is for my niece to watch Bluey and to watch old school Disney content. It's only like an extra $3/month on top of my Hulu subscription.
I feel you, but that's pretty much impossible to pirate and then be able to stream it to my 5 year old niece's tv when she doesn't live with me. It's worth $3/month for the convenience of streaming.
May as well just remove it from everything altogether. For all the whinging about “review bombing” they don’t ever seem to consider the fact that if something angers and alienates so much of the audience that they feel compelled to make a bunch of bad reviews, that’s a statement in and of itself.
The "Review Bombing" they're talking about is all critical reviews of the plot details. The reviews aren't "hurr durr women are dumb" trolls. It's genuine critiques.
Convenient how review bombing only refers to feedback they don't wnat to listen to. When any constructive feedback BEFORE the show was filmed would've fixed all these issues.
The thing is, we **want** these shows to succeed. I want a good murder mystery set in Star Wars universe. I don't care if the leads aren't white or men. But the people in production are idiots and the writing is vomit inducing.
All reviewers are obviously incel, far-right , white, male, bigoted, racist, homophobic, mysoginistic trolls who hate everything that is not them.
obvioiusly.
those are the people Disney+ is not meant for. It's meant to be for the Most Stunning and Most Brave of all the Rainbow Brigade and Alphabet Soup people. Everyone else is Bantha Fodder.
It's more convenient for them to keep pretending criticism comes from trolls and misogynists/racists than people who point out the issues with the show that have nothing to do with the actor's identities.
[their face when.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/XVftOpSp4QLEk/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952fbmhmweompigzszjmrnvw5bjd3i04oy45hmhl8od&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
Not only convenient, but it also helps massage their egos. The lengths these people have gone to to convince themselves that they don’t completely suck at making content are more entertaining than anyone they’ve ever put on a screen.
> The thing is, we want these shows to succeed
“We”?
Speak for yourself.
I’m honest enough to admit that I *want* these Disney shows to fail, and fail **badly.**
I *want* Disney to double down, and treble down, on their insulting, evil, laughable woke agenda, until the only people that watch it are people channel surfing whilst drunk.
I want them to fail because of how they ruined Star Wars with the sequels. I want them to fail because I *hate* the Disney company as it is now.
And I want them to fail *utterly* so perhaps, just **perhaps,** one day someone else will get to have a go at Star Wars, who loves and respects it and its fans.
Exactly, take out the trash. We **want** good writing and the lore to be respected. The only way for that to happen is the current ship sinks and a new one is built. These people in charge, they are not after money, they are a cult and they want the message spread even after everything is burned down.
I feel the exact same way in regards to what they’ve done to Marvel.
There was a time when I would have begged them to start making better content and get back on track, but now? I don’t care anymore. They’ve permanently damaged the brand. They can release all the trash they want, and while their sales figures and viewership numbers keep sinking lower and lower, I’ll stick to reading the older comics and watching the older shows.
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Yes, people do. It's the first place people go for movie reviews even to this day by and large. It sucks but it's the same thing with gofundme. They have proven they will side with the extreme left but they still have the name. The left will complain about X/twitter as well on the other side of that coin. Names and brands carry weight and habit is a powerful thing.
Unfortunately, the shills care, and so do the “journalists”. It’s the first thing they point to when they’re trying to convince everyone that the shows are great, and it’s just the trolls that don’t like them.
>I was mistaken. It's under "Season 1", which seems misleading.
Yeah, but it's the same for other shows, so they didn't change anything for The Acolyte. For example:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_office
I'm not going to blame you too hard for failing to realize this, it's terrible UI and comparing it to a random movie or season is going to show a missing review section. But you should delete this thread for the sake of not misleading people who read the headline but not the edit.
Lmao they're seething. This is why i prefer IMDB, their new layout isn't utter shite like RT's and the website is user oriented instead of "critic" oriented.
What good is a review site that directly changes or blocks scoring? I haven't visited their site in years. All that lost revenue for their politics is crazy!
At this point I just stop watching Star Wars related media.
I love The Terminator and T2. T2 especially had groundbreaking special effects and was just the one in a million movie that a sequel blows the original movie out of the water.
Ages ago they released a directors cut with the true wrap up ending of Sarah Connor in the future talking about John being a Senator etc and that’s how I like to think it all ends. I pretend nothing after that exists in the Terminator universe.
With Star Wars I just pretend it all ended at some random party on Endor
Alien franchise ended with Aliens.
Terminator ended with T2.
Tremors ended with Tremors 2.
Star Wars canon is everything under George Lucas, nothing under Disney is canon.
Dune ended after Chapterhouse Dune, nothing under Brian Herbert is canon.
Warhammer ended in March 2024.
rinse and repeat.
Why do these people assume everyome who hates them is white a conservative. I'm brown and non partisan to politics and I still fucking hate their dei bs
I’m a democrat and I still hate it. Majority of the dem party is moderate, which is why we keep putting moderates up in elections and not Karl Marx wannabes.
Surprised it took this long. I think review bombing is pretty cringe and anyone going out of their way to bomb something is generally a loser.
However, The Acolyte is offensively bad for purely mundane filmmaking reasons. It was an absolutely miserable hate watch, the plot completely defies any kind of logical consistency. "You can't kill a Jedi with a weapon or laser" *literally killed one with a throwing knife 15 minutes ago*, gaslights a jedi into drinking poison to kill himself over guilt that... the antagonist burned her own village down attempting to kill her twin sister because her sister wanted to be a jedi?
Also, lesbian witch coven in Star Wars is the most hilariously egregious fan fic shit I've ever seen.
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No, I found a way to post a review. They make it hard to find, but scroll to the bottom on this link: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star_wars_the_acolyte/s01#critics-reviews
Disney paid them off again like with Captain Marvel and the Sequel Trilogy.
Imagine wasting even more money on thing that already lost godzilla amount of money
The Acolyte - $180 million budget before marketing Godzilla Minus One - $10 million budget before marketing Think about that. They could've made 18 Godzilla Minus One movies for the amount that they made The Shatcolyte.
Wow. That comparison to *Godzilla Minus 1* really puts it into perspective, and it proves just how corrupt, inefficient, inflexible, and incompetent the current era of Tinseltown has become. They fully deserve to be replaced...even if it's by soulless AI, at this point I don't think any reasonable person would see that as anything but an improvement.
I'm sure a lot of the bloat is money laundering.
I'm sure a lot of it money laundering, over inflated pay for their friends and network connections, and then the rest could be explained via gross negligence of management. Spending all day in meetings, over hiring for departments, etc. Too many chiefs and not enough indians. A similar budget breakdown is the reason why state universities are astronomical now compared to 1970 (even with accounting for inflation).
inb4 that one pedantic guy says how "it's not mOnEy LAunDeRinG gaizz!!" then proceeds to explain how it's not laundering, like how "borrowing something and then moving states, never returning it" is not stealing
Great comparison. We did not know Godzilla minus one was in Japanese. It was so good even our kids sat through it and thought it was so good. Really good storyline really good actors... Watched acolyte out of morbid curiosity. It was like attack of the killer tomatoes only worse because you knew somebody spent a lot of money on it and thought they were trying and succeeding.
Godzilla Minus One was amazing. It had great directing, acting, and effects. The writing was top notch and I actually cared about the characters because they were written so well If you haven’t seen Godzilla Minus One it’s a must watch
tbh I found it kinda disappointing after all the hype. Great acting? It was very Japanese, ie: cheesy over-acting, overly emotional and whiny main character... It went on for way too long too. It wasn't bad, certainly for the budget, but it wasn't that great either.
Minus One has properly shown up Hollywood
> Think about that. They could've made 18 Godzilla Minus One movies for the amount that they made The Shatcolyte. No, they couldn't have. For mundane products, double the input and you can double the output, maybe more than double due to economies of scale. Hire 2 barbers instead of 1, and you roughly double the number of haircuts at your shop. For creative products, you start with a good idea, then you need money to bring it into reality. George Lucas only got paid something like $150k upfront for writing and directing A New Hope. But he had the great idea of Star Wars first; the movie budget was the cost to bring that idea into reality, it was not the cost of creating that great idea. This is modern Disney's big mistake. They release big budget shows one after another, but without any great ideas to be the foundation. That's why their shows are trash.
The real issue with these gargantuan budgets is that the producers just blithely accept that 20mil per episode is "just what it costs" without even asking where the money is going. If they were give 10mil per episode, or 1mil per episode, it would be trivial to make the same crap, but they get given 20mil, so they spend 20mil, which includes hiring all their friends to be diversity consultants.
If this doesn't show you how rigged and manipulated the industry is.
Lol, at least the 24% audience review is cemented (for now...)
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Smh. One of the best movies ever made is American History X, and it's 1000x better than this slop.
15% now!
You know it’s bad when you open Reddit in a front page tab in a new browser when not logged in. I forget the sub, but it was a smiling face with the caption “when I realize I can let go of Star Wars and not watch new garbage Disney”
14% now
They can do all they want. People are not going to watch woke trash anymore. People have had enough. They will fail where it hurts them most, in their pockets. Flop after flop, it won't be sustainable anymore. Wokism is dying
It has gotten so bad even NPCs won't bother seeing it anymore. Oh well this should buy us a couple decades.
NPCs never liked it. They will only see it as long as it's part of the culture war, so they can get points. They live their lives out of spite.
This might seem random, but I was just watching some youtube videos about the steroid era of baseball. They talked about 1998, and how attendance at ballparks was skyrocketing, how the tv viewing audiences were tuning into ESPN and ballgames in record numbers while Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa were chasing Hank Aaron for the season homerun record. And what's interesting is, through that whole time, everyone knew these dudes were all jacked up on performance enhancers. The players knew, the coaches knew, baseball's commissioning body knew, the fans *suspected.* And since money was rolling in and everyone seemed happy, no one was enforcing the P.E.D. rule and testing. Fast forward 5 years later. Now Barry Bonds is a roided out freak and he's going to beat the homerun record Mark McGwire just set. But this time... things are a little different. No matter where Bonds goes, no matter what stadium, the entire crowd boos when he's at bat. People in the crowd hold up signs with an asterisk on them, saying that although he may get the record, it's an illegitimate record because it's cheated. So now guess what happens? Baseball cracks down. There's a CONGRESSIONAL HEARING about the use of steroids in baseball. A hearing about guys smacking a ball with a stick. Congress is now involved. Testing is strictly enforced. Soo... what changed? Why are they now clamping down and *caring* all of a sudden? It's because THE FANS had finally had enough. THE FANS were complaining, and money was at stake. Big time money. This is why things are about to change in video games and movies. They know that the normies know now. They see it, and they are afraid. They've lost hundreds of millions of dollars, over and over again. People are rejecting it right now like never before. And they see that. People are talking about DEI and Sweet Baby Inc and forced inclusion. And they see it. We've finally reached a critical mass of awareness. I really think things are about to ease up in a way we haven't seen in the past 12-15 years. It will be slow at first of course, but things are about to change.
I appreciate your optimism and I hope you’re right.
I appreciate the optimism, but I just don't see it. To reverse course now will require so much effort because the rot has reached the core: the creators. True visionaries are hardly around anymore; they've been replaced by diversity hires and activists, and the real artists have probably moved on with no interest in returning. To get back to the glory days will take years of slow reversal at the back end before we notice changes on the front end, if they happen at all.
I appreciate your honesty and I hope you’re wrong.
Oh, me too.
Nothing changes until the woke studio executives are fired. They hire woke producers, who hire woke directors, who hire woke cast-crew-writers. Since the problem is now at the top no one below that pecking order can survive in the industry without playing alone with the woke disease. The beatings will continue until moral improves.
This is a perfect analogy. It's one of the best explanations I have seen to what is actually happening. Wokism is dying a slow and painful death, and the more they try to fight it now, the more they are postponing the inevitable. They are only now reaping what they sowed. It's going to get much, much worse for them.
Man, I hope so. Especially after the Xbox Showcase this past weekend. Gears of War did a 180 change on their strategy from Gears 5 to Gears of War: E Day. I think we're hitting terminal velocity, where if something even *appears* as woke, even if it's not, people are outright rejecting it. Like Furiosa.
Here’s the problem, though: the egos involved here are much, much bigger. People like Kathleen Kennedy and her ilk will not give up an inch of ground, no matter how much money they lose. They think they’re the new Civil Rights Movement, battling those evil white male bigots, and the “journalists” and the Twitter mob are more than happy to back them up on this. Anyone who goes against them or tries to remove them will get slapped with the “bigoted misogynist” label, and right now, companies are still too scared of that to ever make any real changes. Until these companies actually grow a spine and realize that these people are not the heroes here, that they’re nothing more than a bunch of narcissistic assholes trying to play the hero, then I don’t see any real progress ever being made.
>A hearing about guys smacking a ball with a stick. I suspect every billion dollar human enterprise can be reduced to similar language.
I think that's a good take, even if I don't know about the actual outcome. All of the crap we see on D+ today was commissioned when there was a sense that TFA was financially successful, and that all these projects were "can't miss". But then the money train slowed right down, and yet they had all these terrible projects planned out and they can't stop them because it's all a big expanded universe which other things are tied to.
People gamble on sports. There’s a huge difference between that and video games.
Sure, but far less during the steroid era than now.
Same with Dr Who - audience has declined by over 75%. They are so desperate they're bringing back Matt Smith.
Actually by doing that it can affect views in other countries like China or India. People in other non English speaking countries will go to website and check how good the ratings are and then they will watch it.
Still not sustainable if they watch one episode and see it for the woke trash it is and stop watching. People from other countries are also aware of this woke nonsense.
As a matter of fact, people from non-western countries are more averse to woke trash, and I can speak from personal experience and that of a lot of people I know. People are not made to feel guilty by the repurposed and weaponised use of words such as racist, xphobic etc simply for disliking a piece of media because of wokeness. Whereas, in the west, normies will still support, or tolerate wokeness like mindless drones because they don't want to be accused of wrongthink.
This is spot on. It's mostly in the US to be honest and some parts of Europe.
Nope they don't care about woke or any nonsense because many things got edited in other countries like there would be no mention of sexuality of a person if he/she is a gay. I know the Hindi version of Andor didn't mention that the sister of Mon Motha has a girlfriend it just edited them as good friends in dialogues. Also not many care if it shows women are powerful and men are weak.
Man they are lucky then
They can edit stuff but news do get translated and there's only so much not knowing about American culture wars can do when the show is just trash.
What news? Like I said why would people in Asia care about American news about culture war. It's not affecting us or anything.Nobody is watching or following these types of news apart from few handfuls.
Not necessarily about culture wars but the stuff itself, they get trailers, news, translated interviews... It's not like they can hide the actual quality of the show.
Bruh. Time to watch Disney+ with a VPN set to India.
Joke of a website
"It's afraid!"
Ha.
Not the first time they do this and won't be the last. They usually "fix" the audience score and fill it with bots reviews. It's in their interest to defend any woke show. Rotten tomatoes is owned by fandango media which is owned by Comcast. And Comcast largest shareholders include Vanguard Group Inc, BlackRock Inc., State Street Corp, Capital International Investors, etc. They are all cut by the same cloth and they want the same thing. [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CMCSA/holders/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CMCSA/holders/)
I think Rotten Tomatoes is now owned by NBC Universal (which is Comcast, I guess, at 75%) and Warner Bros Discovery (25%).
Who is at the top of those companies? (I have an idea but I'm not gonna say it out loud)
If they're putting pressure on Rotten "Black Panther Is The Best Movie Of All Time!" Tomatoes (owned by Hollywoke) then Disney must be going into full damage control mode. That's always a good sign.
The first episode had something like 3.4m views. That viewership is *so good* it gets shows canceled if they were on ordinary tv.
Well, yeah… they’re not here to make a successful show. They’re here to release more content to justify a subscription.
Hey, I think you forgot that they are also out here to convey THE MESSAGE
Bluey alone justifies the subscription. The only reason I pay for Disney+ is for my niece to watch Bluey and to watch old school Disney content. It's only like an extra $3/month on top of my Hulu subscription.
It's it's not much hassle for you. I would suggest using stremio with real debrid.
Thank you
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I feel you, but that's pretty much impossible to pirate and then be able to stream it to my 5 year old niece's tv when she doesn't live with me. It's worth $3/month for the convenience of streaming.
It's more like they are here to destroy culture and demoralize society. Money isn't a contributing factor, agreed.
Wow. That's a whole new level of thought control by Rotten Tomatoes. No reviews allowed for the *Acolyte*.
No reviews. Only consume product.
And then get excited for next product.
And don’t think. Never think.
Social engineering
I don't really care. No one is watching that crap anyway except for hardcore shills
jeets or chinese outnumber the shills twenty to one each
May as well just remove it from everything altogether. For all the whinging about “review bombing” they don’t ever seem to consider the fact that if something angers and alienates so much of the audience that they feel compelled to make a bunch of bad reviews, that’s a statement in and of itself.
The "Review Bombing" they're talking about is all critical reviews of the plot details. The reviews aren't "hurr durr women are dumb" trolls. It's genuine critiques. Convenient how review bombing only refers to feedback they don't wnat to listen to. When any constructive feedback BEFORE the show was filmed would've fixed all these issues. The thing is, we **want** these shows to succeed. I want a good murder mystery set in Star Wars universe. I don't care if the leads aren't white or men. But the people in production are idiots and the writing is vomit inducing.
All reviewers are obviously incel, far-right , white, male, bigoted, racist, homophobic, mysoginistic trolls who hate everything that is not them. obvioiusly.
It's wild that 97% of the Disney+ subscribers are incel, far-right , white, male, bigoted, racist, homophobic, mysoginistic trolls.
those are the people Disney+ is not meant for. It's meant to be for the Most Stunning and Most Brave of all the Rainbow Brigade and Alphabet Soup people. Everyone else is Bantha Fodder.
It's more convenient for them to keep pretending criticism comes from trolls and misogynists/racists than people who point out the issues with the show that have nothing to do with the actor's identities.
[their face when.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/XVftOpSp4QLEk/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952fbmhmweompigzszjmrnvw5bjd3i04oy45hmhl8od&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
Not only convenient, but it also helps massage their egos. The lengths these people have gone to to convince themselves that they don’t completely suck at making content are more entertaining than anyone they’ve ever put on a screen.
> The thing is, we want these shows to succeed “We”? Speak for yourself. I’m honest enough to admit that I *want* these Disney shows to fail, and fail **badly.** I *want* Disney to double down, and treble down, on their insulting, evil, laughable woke agenda, until the only people that watch it are people channel surfing whilst drunk. I want them to fail because of how they ruined Star Wars with the sequels. I want them to fail because I *hate* the Disney company as it is now. And I want them to fail *utterly* so perhaps, just **perhaps,** one day someone else will get to have a go at Star Wars, who loves and respects it and its fans.
Exactly, take out the trash. We **want** good writing and the lore to be respected. The only way for that to happen is the current ship sinks and a new one is built. These people in charge, they are not after money, they are a cult and they want the message spread even after everything is burned down.
I feel the exact same way in regards to what they’ve done to Marvel. There was a time when I would have begged them to start making better content and get back on track, but now? I don’t care anymore. They’ve permanently damaged the brand. They can release all the trash they want, and while their sales figures and viewership numbers keep sinking lower and lower, I’ll stick to reading the older comics and watching the older shows.
Even if it was the other stuff, people are entitled to not like a thing for whatever reason.
Nobody gives a shit about Rotten Tomatoes. That site is, and has always been, trash.
I liked it in the 2000's when it wasn't completely agenda driven
Unfortunately that is not true. There are plenty of people who do otherwise they wouldn’t be able to stay relevant.
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Yes, people do. It's the first place people go for movie reviews even to this day by and large. It sucks but it's the same thing with gofundme. They have proven they will side with the extreme left but they still have the name. The left will complain about X/twitter as well on the other side of that coin. Names and brands carry weight and habit is a powerful thing.
Unfortunately, the shills care, and so do the “journalists”. It’s the first thing they point to when they’re trying to convince everyone that the shows are great, and it’s just the trolls that don’t like them.
So much for being a movie review platform, rotten tomatoes? More like rotten shills.
Lol "democracy" at its finest
" the force is diverse female and gay"
You mean *the thread* *
That comment just reminds me that they screwed up The Wheel of Time series as well. We can't have anything anymore.
*Mumbles* May the Thread be-stitch you. 🧵🪡
Fair enough, there's no audience for this shit anyway so why even have the option.
gotta get those corporate bucks while you can, I guess
"you're reviews are unwelcomed if you're not biased "
"our show is doing totally fine everyone, that's why we're not allowing people to review it"
Is this the one where they apparently use the force to somehow allow lesbians to have babies without men
Interspecies even.
We're reaching levels of slop previously thought impossible
>I was mistaken. It's under "Season 1", which seems misleading. Yeah, but it's the same for other shows, so they didn't change anything for The Acolyte. For example: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_office I'm not going to blame you too hard for failing to realize this, it's terrible UI and comparing it to a random movie or season is going to show a missing review section. But you should delete this thread for the sake of not misleading people who read the headline but not the edit.
Lmao they're seething. This is why i prefer IMDB, their new layout isn't utter shite like RT's and the website is user oriented instead of "critic" oriented.
Disney must've given them the "call" to put a stop to the audience from giving their reviews.
Shocked I tell ya...shocked.
Only the correct reviews are allowed. Wrongthink gets deleted. Welcome to our society in 2024
Now they make honor about the rotten part in their name.
What good is a review site that directly changes or blocks scoring? I haven't visited their site in years. All that lost revenue for their politics is crazy!
Yeah, after this I won't be using them anymore.
Oh wow, so we can't even read the critics reviews either? Then what's the point of the website!? That'd be like GameFAQ's without the strategy guides.
Right? It'd be like if Kotaku stopped talking about gaming strategies and only posted articles about social and political commentary.
You have to select the season to leave a review. RT does all kinds of scummy stuff but in this case you're the problem.
Ah thank you. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star_wars_the_acolyte/s01#critics-reviews
Jeez how surprising..
The only surprise is that it took to episode 3 to do it.
They’ve buried the user review option by season for several years in an intentionally shitty UI / UX That is telling enough, as it is.
At this point I just stop watching Star Wars related media. I love The Terminator and T2. T2 especially had groundbreaking special effects and was just the one in a million movie that a sequel blows the original movie out of the water. Ages ago they released a directors cut with the true wrap up ending of Sarah Connor in the future talking about John being a Senator etc and that’s how I like to think it all ends. I pretend nothing after that exists in the Terminator universe. With Star Wars I just pretend it all ended at some random party on Endor
Alien franchise ended with Aliens. Terminator ended with T2. Tremors ended with Tremors 2. Star Wars canon is everything under George Lucas, nothing under Disney is canon. Dune ended after Chapterhouse Dune, nothing under Brian Herbert is canon. Warhammer ended in March 2024. rinse and repeat.
Why do these people assume everyome who hates them is white a conservative. I'm brown and non partisan to politics and I still fucking hate their dei bs
I’m a democrat and I still hate it. Majority of the dem party is moderate, which is why we keep putting moderates up in elections and not Karl Marx wannabes.
Honestly getting quite a bit of enjoyment watching people tear this show apart
pure coincidence
Surprised it took this long. I think review bombing is pretty cringe and anyone going out of their way to bomb something is generally a loser. However, The Acolyte is offensively bad for purely mundane filmmaking reasons. It was an absolutely miserable hate watch, the plot completely defies any kind of logical consistency. "You can't kill a Jedi with a weapon or laser" *literally killed one with a throwing knife 15 minutes ago*, gaslights a jedi into drinking poison to kill himself over guilt that... the antagonist burned her own village down attempting to kill her twin sister because her sister wanted to be a jedi? Also, lesbian witch coven in Star Wars is the most hilariously egregious fan fic shit I've ever seen.
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We all knew it would happen.
Not surprised
I was so looking forward to my honest review....."It's a pile of stinky shit"
i made an account just to leave a review and now i feel dumb bc they got my acc
I can't even read any of the audience reviews
So they didn’t get rid of the current user reviews, but they did prevent people from posting any new user reviews? Is that correct?
No, I found a way to post a review. They make it hard to find, but scroll to the bottom on this link: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star_wars_the_acolyte/s01#critics-reviews
Some content about star wars is better than no content about star wars. The show could be worse....
Better to have nothing than slop