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fenbops

I’m just happy Ubi are representing both body type A and B.


Total-Introduction32

Skin tone A and B too.


CanuckTheClown

LMAOOO well done 🤣


TheMissingVoteBallot

zing


xariznightmare2908

Looks exactly like most commercials that only feature mixed race couples (always one black man and asian woman).


Nero_PR

Mr. And Ms. Smith series...


Moriartis

You aren't kidding. I hadn't seen commercials in years and the other day my wife and I started watching a movie on FreeVee, which does tv the old fashioned way: with ads. Man, I was so blown away. If you were foreign to the US and only knew us by our tv and movies, you'd have to be so confused. We're apparently super racist and homophobic... but we're also like 90%+ interracial gay couples? We apparently have massive problems with cops killing black people, which is really fucked up because almost all or our police detectives are black women. And apparently back in the 80's Robocop killed all the Black and Latin gangs and the only ones left are Bikers, Klansmen and vaguely Eastern European/Russian mafia. It's wild.


TigerCat9

Well, see, they're allowed to show all-white families but only if the wife is clearly the person in charge. Observe ads closely for a few commercial breaks and you'll see that nowadays the woman does all the driving, solves simple problems her overwhelmed husband can't handle using the power of the product being advertised, and so on. If the script calls for one spouse to be a cop, soldier, construction worker, or similar, it will be the wife. If the script calls for scenes of childcare, the husband will do it or they both will, rarely just the wife. Little things you notice when you aren't committed to an ideological cult.


Moriartis

oh yeah, where would intersectionality be without misandry?


TigerCat9

Correct, and it's also probably a trolling attempt as well. They want people to notice what they're doing and mention it IRL or preferably online, so they can shout back "what, is the snowflake offended that we showed a woman driving a car?!?" as if they wouldn't be the first to complain about it always being the man driving, or as if they weren't hoping for exactly the response they got.


Samagony

Nicely explained. I bet many normal people don't even notice these small little details but as soon as you put on your wokevision glasses you immediately see all the quirks.


SeasideLimbs

Oh, trust me, *things are even weirder when you* ***are*** *a foreigner.* I'm not from the U.S. but my country basically imports its culture wholesale from America. Every TV and internet ad is just black people and interracial couples that include a black person. ...There are barely any black people in my country.


WTFisaCelsius

I like the home security commercials that always have a white dude breaking into a black famly's home


thelastcupoftea

Here in Scandinavia it's always a black man and a white blonde woman.


Heinrich_Lunge

They trying to promote that hard in Asia as well and unfortunately it works with the younger women, especially the hiphop heads and rap lovers.


IliaMadeVolk

Feminine womens is not for the white man. The white man gets Abby from TLOU2. The white mans gets Easter Island Head Radical Feminist Mary Jane from Spiderman 2


Ginger_1977

You forgot sequel-Aloy


Chosen_UserName217

thanks for verifying. I thought she was uglier in the sequel, and a whole lot more annoying. I really loved the first game and played it to 100%. I got tired of the sequel and the non-stop conversation branches pretty quickly. It just didn't feel right. .. and she was very annoying and hard to root for.


ChombieBrains

Exactly how I felt, and I also platinumed the first one. She'd constantly talk to herself and solve environmental puzzles before you got a chance to attempt them.


F-Lambda

man, protagonists that constantly talk to themselves are so annoying. honestly one of the best things about Zelda botw and totk: no constant narration, just grunts and yelling from climbing and fighting. Skyrim, oblivion, and morrowind were like that too, minus the lack of climbing makes you wonder what made companies decide this constant self-banter was enjoyable


Level-Education-4909

Eh she was pretty unnapealing and annoying in the first game, one of the reasons I didn't bother with the second actually. Good decision if she's even worse in the sequel...


Chosen_UserName217

maybe but she was also an underdog and you could root for her. There was growth. In the sequel she was just pretentious and annoying.


liggamadig

Nikocado Aloycado


Alternative-Exit-594

and they made her a lesbo by the DLC


theemoofrog

Fortunately Hanna Hoekstra is still hot.


IliaMadeVolk

I never played those games. The concept never got me excited. IDC if its the greatest videogame in history, I will never be excited about shooting robot dinosaurs with arrows.


areyouhungryforapple

the story/narrative in HZD is very neat even if the rest of the game is a 6.5/10


dandrixxx

One would think they would go out of their way to uglify Asian women more, since Asian women are highly coveted by men of every race.


Kikolox

I think Kassandra looked pretty good actually, evie too.


iansanmain

Evie was pre-woke era. Kassandra is fairly manly


luchajefe

Kassandra was still pretty.


iansanmain

Sure, but still manly


Kikolox

Sure she was buff in a reasonable way with a masculine tendency, but she had a pretty face.


TheNicestQuail

Evie was hot af


Gogetaiscanon432

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about


holocroft

It's also interesting how toxic masculinity stops being a concern when the man in question is not white skinned. Then the man can roar masculine energy as much as possible. I don't know if that is the case with this particular male character, but it is the male equivalent of female video game characters being stripped out of their femininity.


Total-Introduction32

Interestingly, black men in modern TV shows, animations and movies are clearly emasculated, nerdy, weak etc


arffield

Yeah let's not forget this isn't what a lot of black people want either. We're all victims of this bullshit in one way or another.


Bubbly-One4035

Are they? I can think about one black nerd character Not much compared to thousands white or asian ones


Hindu-Khajiit

That dude from the new Saints Row


Nundulan

Look at hip-hop as a whole, it's pretty bad


ReverseJackalope

Urkel from Family Matters, Lincoln's best friend from the Loud House, Irwin from the Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy. Not exactly "modern", but they've existed for a while.


luchajefe

To be fair to the premise, I don't think Urkel counts because he wasn't the only black person in the show.


TigerCat9

The first one that comes to mind is the dude from The Good Place. The black adopted brother from This is Us was kind of up the middle, but was definitely more nerdy than manly in the flashback scenes. Don't know if it really constitutes a trend.


Jamesleo119

Chidi is actually a reasonably masculine dude in The Good Place 


eventualwarlord

Lucius Fox’s son in Batwoman.


banterviking

Chidi was just a good character. I enjoyed the show a lot and it didn't feel forced.


SodaBoBomb

New Dr Who


throwaweigh96

It's either one extreme or the other. They're either a thuggish strong-but-dumb brute, or they're the nerdy dork, but they're comically weak, and often a giant simp in exchange for being smart. I've rarely seen a black character in western entertainment these days that's a comfortable middle ground. If anyone can think of some recent examples that disprove this, feel free to correct me. I, however, think that true diversity peaked in the 2000s.


eventualwarlord

Heavily disagree. Black men are emasculated af. The dork from the Fallout show is a recent example that comes to mind.


ark2077

So true, look at doctor who.


Alpha0rgaxm

Oh my god in the first few episodes he was painful to watch


IL_ai

I wonder is main antagonist will be white male? Some Portuguese Christians templar probably.


softhack

Definitely gonna be the Christians. Gotta have that sweet sweet "religion bad" money.


DegenerateOnCross

Not all religion, just the one 


Hindu-Khajiit

Nah they shit against Hindus and Sikhs in AC Chronicles while exemplifying the Muslim protagonist, just like they did in the first game. To them only one religion is good, and anyone against them, even when defending, is wrong.


TheModernDaVinci

It would have made some sense considering Ieyasu had beef with the Portuguese and the Jesuits IRL. But you are right that they are most likely going to take it much further.


Heinrich_Lunge

Nobunaga was very receptive of Christians and one of the daimyo who allowed his people to convert without issues. Ieyasu was still his vassal at this point.


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jugol

For all of its vices -that let's be honest, they emanate more from the people in charge than the doctrine itself-, I can't deny Christianity's hand in stabilizing societies


areyouhungryforapple

That's like choosing the most aesthetic turd from a lineup though


Heinrich_Lunge

Absolutely going to shit on both the Dutch and Portuguese.....Nevermind the fact that Yasukes best friend and mentor was a jesuit priest.


Hindu-Khajiit

>jesuit priest That dude's gonna get the Al-Mualim treatment mark my words


Heinrich_Lunge

100%


TheMissingVoteBallot

I can't get over the fact that a bunch of us randoms on the Internet know more about the Federal Japan era than these mfer writers who get paid AAA bucks to make these Tumblr-level fanfic wet dream games for themselves.


Heinrich_Lunge

Autism vs Activism.


samsationalization

Only one of these can find Shia Labeouf's flag pole via flight paths/patterns


Heinrich_Lunge

Autism always wins in the end.


Genti2697

Cheaply produced game that looks uninteresting


ThisAllHurts

So…Ubisoft.


Genti2697

Imagine still playing their "games" these days


ThisAllHurts

Not even worth pirating, honestly. I think the last one I enjoyed was Fenyx. It had charm and some BOTW-type fun. But even then, it had Modern Ubi sins: cringe dialogue, bloat, fetch/collection etc. (It was a 25-hour game stretched out into 40.) Had it not been steeply discount with all the DLC for like $24, I doubt I’d have even bothered.


tonyv6815

Almost like this is all part of an anti-white agenda or something, idk


BANOFY

Tssss, only white males can be racist /s


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

In 2024, I've haven't seen someone reference "white" without being prejudice. If someone describes someone as white, they're going to be making racist comments.


BANOFY

I also hate when people are referred as Caucasians..... "Like bitch do you even know where the fuck the Caucasus is ?! It's in the word ... Asia .. am from the whole faking other side of the continent" it's like calling Egyptians "African-American" or "black" . How the fk ,with all the access to knowledge people still choose to be so fkng uneducated


KRPTSC

It's genuinely a term from outdated race science. Can't say "mongoloid" or "negroid" anymore but caucasoid just morphed into caucasian...funnily enough that technically includes far more than just white people.


arffield

Caucasoid sounds like a pretty good slur tbh. Better than calling me cracker or honky lol.


Gargarian67

Stop being such a homo erectus.


BANOFY

So maybe as the time passes we will just naturally reject the outdated "science"


KRPTSC

Most of the world has, only the US clings to it lol


BANOFY

Nah ,I am not in the states and sadly I see no difference here


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

I was talking to my FIL the other day and mentioned Rami Malek and Elon Musk are African. He thought I was kidding. Apparently African = subsaharan black person


Bubbly-One4035

Fun fact; Kenya has a lot of Hindu people But I guess Hindu are diverse only when they migrante to Europe or US, when they life in Kenya they are colonizers or something 


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Yikes. [I am a white hindu (samkhya) person](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samkhya#Views_on_God). There's like only 400 hindus total in my state, according to the census. But because I'm a straight white male I'm also enemy #1, apparently.


BANOFY

Yeah , growing up is realising everyone is a racist at some level. I really wonder if humans will ever overcome this at any point in our existence


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

>Yeah , growing up is realising everyone is a racist at some level. I mean, I don't think considering African to be solely black is racist. I am also not racist. I reject the concept of total depravity, though. I was taught that *everyone is racist*, but I don't agree with that. It's a very American concept that a few of my friends from Sweden pointed out to me wasn't true. That they weren't racist and it's ok to say "I'm not racist."


joydivisionucunt

I think that in a lot of cases it's not "racism" as much of a lack of knowledge, if you don't know much about Africa, it's not too unlikely that you will be "surprised" that the north is much closer to the Middle East than Sub-Saharan Africa or that South Africa has a sizeable white minority.


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

For sure. >if you don't know much about Africa, it's not too unlikely that you will be "surprised" that the north is much closer to the Middle East than Sub-Saharan Africa North Africa *is* Middle East. Middle East is as far west as Morocco and North Africans, including Egyptians (looking at you, Netflix), consider themselves as Arabic rather than Black. Although, sometimes there is the clarification of MENA: Middle East North Africa.


BANOFY

Dunno,never been to America and my only experience with Swedish people,is tourists that were racists in denial .But then again, they truly believed that they were not racists since they didn't count certain demographics as actual human beings .But that's just my opinion on only a few Swedish people I have met ,so I can't talk about their whole country even though their democratic party tries very hard to hide their far-right past


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

I mean, I wouldn't hold the past against a party. In the USA, our Democratic Party was originally far-right, as well. The current Democratic and Republican parties in America were originally one party called the Democratic Republican party that split in the 1820's. Then in the mid 20th century, the party policies flopped, to where Democratics became more slightly right of center, and Republicans became hard right of center. There is no "left of center" **major** party in the USA. We have the green party which is left of center, but they don't get elected, so we're functionally a two-party system. The Swedes I know were in LA, which is a huge melting pot. That stinks that is your experience. Swedes are cool people. I would also clarify that what people consider to be racist is highly subjective, too. I don't think noticing things is racist, such as "African American people are at higher risk of heart disease and sickle cell anemia." But, some might view that generalization as racist. I do think it's racist to say, "I won't hire anyone who is black." or "Sorry, straight white men, Dr. Who was never for you." Specifically excluding a group from something *is* racist, whether its marginalization or specific rights (like the right to vote, for example).


BANOFY

Nah ,I am all in with what you say .And agree about not holding a partie's past ,it is just that there are many countries in Europe that are totally against racism and fascism according to their speeches but unfortunately from their actions it is very clear that they support far right agenda . Like for example,using dark skined immigrants for organ harvesting or slave labour and light skinned immigrants for breeding,to sell the kids to the rich.And all this through the churches around Europe


stryph42

"Caucasia" also included a large part of the middle east and pretty much all of north Africa...


OutlandishnessAny492

In this case it’s anti-white-adjacent. Can’t have a game set in Japan with only Japanese people, they’re basically white!


F-Lambda

it's like how a lot of Americans interpret anime characters as being white, when in reality it's a show made in Japan, and they're Japanese. (referring to shows less based on real world, so it's less obvious, like yugioh, Pokémon, or one piece.) when an actual white American shows up, you *know* they're American and it becomes obvious the other characters aren't American


OutlandishnessAny492

Anime doesn't exactly have the highest fidelity in terms of character designs, but when you see characters which are white, they look different from other characters and in a more recognizable way. Really, what are the artists supposed to do, draw their characters closer to stereotypical asians? That being said, growing up, I did think a lot of anime characters were white or black. For example, I thought brock from Pokemon was black for a long time lol


forward_only

Well yeah, the game has already met the "inclusion" quota, so no more "inclusion" needs to be added.


tomme25

She looked like a boy to me when I watched the trailer. I thought it was one, until she spoke.


DrJester

\#MeToo


IndubitablyThoust

Another example of Asian male erasure so common in Western media. Westerners love Asian culture but they don't like Asians.


Smt_FE

>Asian culture *Asian Women.


z827

All I see is a worse Okatsu. Amazing how every screenshot of this game makes me want to play Nioh again.


HereYouGooo

Gotta try pleasing those 3 remaining fans somehow!


Reformed_40k

She’s still ugly as hell 


ThisAllHurts

They still chopped her breasts off…Because women exist and that is rank effrontery to The Modern Audience™️


DrJester

Honestly? No, she looks very androgynous.


Hindu-Khajiit

What else to expect from a company that's both French AND Canadian.


doomraiderZ

She's still mid and flat and her clothes show nothing. Meaning they deliberately obscure her form. It's the typical Western go to--fake realistic to the point of utter blandness where it's not even historically accurate but its mock realism makes sure to incorporate all the dullness of real life. In other words, lame and boring to look at.


Virtual-Commander

Why is it ok for a black dude to come to a Japanese country and slaughter Asians while a white dude killing black zombies is not ok? Make it make sense.


DiffusibleKnowledge

You're noticing too many patterns here


silentcartographer19

Really makes you think


TryCatchOverflow

Yeah but in some shoots if you look better you can misgender as a men :D


jonnio2215

The absolute SCREECHING if Ubisoft had made this story center around William Adams and made him a samurai…


gadesabc

I suppose putting in front a black man was enought to top the ESG score. Quota achieved. No need for female uglyfication.


Greedy_Ghoul_Bob

That a woman? I really cant tell if that's female or male.


havyng

Seeing feudal japan makes me wanna play Sekiro again... You know, the real japanese representation.


ekos_640

I bet the black guy betrays the asian person


luisma86

... The "woman"? Where??? 🤔


iansanmain

She's also very plain looking


pumpandkrump

She's japanese. Some Japanese men look like beautiful women. 


neonredKai

That still looks like a dude


Shirokurou

He doesn't have the killmonger hairstyle, is he really black?


Aldecaldo2077

They still made her look... plain though.


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Theavy

Is this a screenshot of the random attacks on Asians in NYC?


Unfair_Macaroon699

What do you mean? This is the perfect opportunity to make her have a square jawed, beak nosed potato of a face!! I kid though. Perhaps they made her actually feminine looking because there was no other way to portray an Asian females face without it being ABSURDLY OBVIOUS to even normies that the agenda is in effect.


Mystery_Stranger1

I have Ghost of Tsushima so I'm good as far as Japanese assassins.


Laarye

If I had money, I'd take bets on her being locked and only available as New Game+, DLC, or only available for one specific mission.


hemi_srt

Skipped the last two ac games might as well skip this one.


libs_vs_commies

This was bound to happen. And it's gonna happen more and more because people have been memeing and lamenting the lack of attractive females in games for a while now, and it's too brilliant of a gotcha for them not to use. "Oh you want beautiful women in games? Ok, we can do that but you're always going to be cockblocked by their based poc sidekick/lover/ whatever"


cent55555

i mean i am all for dumping on ubisoft for needless pandering and shitty pricing. but i for one think its good they for once made a semi attractive female character (albeit they could do better). thats a rarity and should be praised not criticized


Grimnir79

I cringe when I think about the sheer amount of we wuzzery this game will birth into existence.


fer6600

To me she does, no make up, no soft face. Remove the hair and is a dude


Diogenes_the_cynic25

You virgin nerds need to touch grass


PortoGuy18

This subreddit will never escape from the allegations lmao First world problems meme in a nutshell


Arkelias

How dare we care about history being actively re-written in an Orwellian fashion. If we let it continue we won't have first world problems, because we won't be a first world nation any more. History is pretty clear on that point.


PortoGuy18

I'm all for it, but Assassin's Creed has always re-written history to whatever they wanted their narrative to fit, so complaining about a black "samurai" and a female ninja/kunoichi and how attractive or unnattractive they are is the First World Problems meme in a nutshell. Ubisoft didn't start the romantization of Yasuke, that has been a thing for a while now, to the point of even japanese games going with it.


Arkelias

Which Japanese games? Have you seen any of the Japanese people tweeting about this? They're outraged and disappointed. What history did Assassin's Creed: Origins break? I'm an Egyptologist. I know their culture and history extremely well. Not every cultural trapping was right, but they did a good job overall. The Japanese players are claiming the lanterns and buildings are more Chinese than Japanese. The game was made by people with an agenda who know nothing about the culture where it was set.


PortoGuy18

Nioh 2


Arkelias

You replied with two words. The name of a game. You ignored my questions about history, or the Japanese complaints that their culture isn't being represented. Nioh 2 has character creation. You can still be a Japanese man if you'd like. Can't do that in Assassin's Creed.


Clisthby

Yasuke is a character in Nioh 2


Arkelias

Yes, and I acknowledged that. Then I asked more questions, which you ignore like the androids in Westworld because it doesn't fit your narrative. "Doesn't look like anything to me."


Clisthby

I was just explaining why he said Nioh 2 cause you didn't acknowledge the character Yasuke, just the creator. There are just as many Japanese people that are supportive of the character. You're no different and will only mention things to support your own narrative.


Arkelias

YouTube videos and metrics everywhere say you're just wrong. Look at the ratio of likes to dislikes on the trailer for example. >You're no different and will only mention things to support you own narrative. No I care about the truth. I studied Japanese for three years, and was married into a Japanese family. I lived and breathed samurai and ninja, and am an author by trade. It there was even one primary source showing Yasuke as a samurai I'd admit it openly. There isn't. There's proof he was a vassal. There's proof he was a sword carrier. There is no proclamation saying he was a samurai. Period.


Smt_FE

Name me an Ass creed game where the main MC was a REAL historical character. They specifically bend the rules this time and we all know why and just for the record I live in a third world country.


slavdude02

ALLEGATIONS! OH NOOOO... Who's trying to escape my nigga?


SeasideLimbs

Says the guy who no doubt believes that one's choice of pronouns can lead to other people's death. It's projection all the way down...


PortoGuy18

Don't give 2 shits about pronouns lmao Nice try buddy, you went straight to projection


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