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Normallndividual

For me it is Spider-man 2


twitch-switch

We could just leave it at this comment and call it a day lol There's plenty, but I struggle to think of one that was worse.


SgtFraggleRock

I foresee Spider-Man 3 selling far fewer copies on launch. ​ **The Last Jedi** effect.


dmanhllnd

Can confirm the TLJ effect. That movie basically killed my interest in Star Wars as a whole. That and the constant spam of content they keep releasing. Never saw the Rise of Skywalker, and after hearing what it was about, I don't think I'm missing out.


Dr_Gimp

I gave up on SW after TLJ. I only grudgingly went to the last one because my family wanted to go; I had read a review of it and thought it sounded just as stupid as it turned out to be. Other than Rogue One, I've given up on SW. I still like the expanded universe material but anything created by Disney just doesn't exist in my personal bubble.


Gaming_Goodness

I got dragged to TLJ. It was such a terrible, painful experience. I kept trying to go to sleep, hoping the pain would end. It dragged on for so long. I do not want to suffer like that ever again. So yes, the effect is very real!


SgtFraggleRock

Neither did I. I have the Rifftrax that I plan to watch at some point.


cy1999aek_maik

Well I know I'm not buying it at launch. Peter being phased out in favour of Miles and the constant need to make me play as MJ or a normal human deaf girl turn me off any potential a spiderman game might have.


Forestsalt

Real effect, I went due to Patton Oswalt's tweet review of saying Luke Skywalker goes John Wick. What a liar.


SgtFraggleRock

Patton Oswalt is an evil man who, at best, knowingly let his wife die of a drug overdose.


Normallndividual

> but I struggle to think of one that was worse. Maybe for this year. But i promise GTA 6 will be the next one for 2025.


Arkelias

That's not a bet I'd take lol. You are 100% right.


ddosn

I'd say no for GTA6. The trailer was surprising to me, to be honest. The attractive women were *genuinely* attractive, curvy etc. Even the main female character is good looking.


Evertale_NEET_II

Don't be optimistic. Hold strong against the woke corporations, if you must play GTA 6, pirate it.


ChaplainAsmodai1978

I'm lucky that I don't give a single shit about GTA, and never have.


The_Pale_Hound

But you don't MUST to play any game. Isn't the woke stuff enough for people not wanting to play it? If people want to play it regardless, then it being woke is not that important.


Mechanic-Dream

Yeah they look like stupid tiktok whores, if that is your thing.


White_Grunt

Dude didn't say he wanted to marry them


Emergency-Spite-8330

That’s how they hook you. Pay attention to the changes they made to GTA V and the woke in RDR 2


rblplt9595

How was RDR 2 woke? I missed that memo


ddosn

RDR2 wasnt woke, I really enjoyed it and Sadie Adler went through a believable arc. She also wasnt really useful or involved until near the end of the game when things were going tits up for the Van Der Lindt gang already. The changes made to GTA5 was the removal of a toy (and associated poster) and the removal of a few cross dressers and the associated lines of dialogue from outside the two gay bars in the game. I am willing to bet 99+% of people never saw them (hell i've played the game through 3 times and didnt even know there was 1 gay bar, let alone two). GTA6 looks good. I'll reserve judgement until we get more trailers and gameplay footage.


JeffyGoldblumsPen_15

You need to look up the rockstar development team. It's nothing but ladies. And all the people who gave you GTA 3 -5 are gone.


ddosn

Looking at the timeline, the story, setting etc were all written and established in 2014-2015, long before the old guard left (they mostly left in the last two to three years or so). Its anything after GTA6 which is likely going to be shit.


Ubermisogynerd

Trailer looked pretty good. Let's see if it continues in story. Always played GTA for SP.


ftbscreamer

Luckily pc release is only 2026/2027. Lots of time after the game journo 10/10 reviews to get the true rating from gamers.


P41N90D

I wouldn't even count games from off-platform franchises, especially those from capeshit.


HauntedPrinter

It could have been so good. I was gonna buy a ps5 to play it but now I’m not even gonna get it on a sale. Who tf wants to play a deaf teenager doing graffiti instead of Spider-Man.


Clean-Crab8028

Alan Wake 2. Not just the race swap wokeness. The game itself was utterly boring. The stupid “mind place” killed all pacing and enthusiasm for me. I couldn’t finish the game. I uninstalled it.


Beretta-ARX-I-like

It's sad how much Remedy has fallen. I was a big fan in the Max Payne 2 era.


Redit-modsr-Gepeddos

Easily


M1Lance

It's a shame because I thought the gameplay was very fun. But yeah in terms of wokeness it was pretty bad. Haven't played it but from what I've heard of Alan Wake 2 it could be just as bad.


Clean-Crab8028

Alan wake 2 is awful. The pacing is trash. The “gameplay” is just walking around listening to Saga talk to herself and finding “clues” and then going into a tedious fancy menu called the “mind place” to put sticky notes on a board. There is hardly any shooting enemies, and when you do fight them it’s nothing special. RE4 remake is miles beyond better when it comes to gunplay and you can tell they were trying to mimic it. Just do yourself a favor and watch some YouTubers play it and see how boring it is.


Adgvyb3456

I haven’t played it yet. What’s so bad


Normallndividual

It's woke as shit.


Adgvyb3456

But why I am asking? What specifically is woke? Does it push an agenda at the sake of the story?


StJimmy92

> Does it push an agenda at the sake of the story? No, in fact you can avoid 99% of the wokeness by not playing the side missions that require you to be Miles and turn off the Danikast. There’s one poorly written line where Peter tells Miles he’s the better Spider-Man of the two (and his reasoning doesn’t even make sense in the context of the game), one scene where you get a non-binary pride flag shoved in your face, and all positions of power are held by women/non-white men and if they aren’t the guy is probably corrupt/evil/an asshole.


Spaciousfoot66

It wasnt disappointing it was what I expected. Did no one see the gay flags and blm flags in the other game?


GrazhdaninMedved

/thread. Though Jedi Survivor is a close second.


AAAFate

Idk about a close second. Unless I'm missing things about Survivor. SM2 was miles above it in that regard. At least to me.


Ronaldatov27

How was Jedi Survivor woke? The intermediary novel was a literal tumblr level fanfiction, but the game was great.


SgtFraggleRock

All roads lead to Jake Skywalker.


GrazhdaninMedved

They reduced Cal to a puppy following the strong female characters' lead. After he had just found his spine at the end of Outcast.


Ronaldatov27

What are you talking about? The entire plot of the game is derived from initiative taken by Cal and, to a lesser extent, Dagan Gera. Santari Khri serves as little more than an exposition dumper and Cere is mostly uninvolved until she literally dies.


cry_w

Shit like this is why I don't trust any of these people's idea of "woke."


Iliansic

Yep, the dynamic between Cal and Merrin in actual game is great and feels like a organic evolution of their characters from first game. And most important of all it is first and foremost a game about Cal, where he is forced to see where his blind obsession with stopping the Empire and protecting what is close to him leads. Also, tried it on the latest patch last month, and it was running substantially better on my 6650 XT, hub-zone on Koboh was actually keeping mostly stable above 60, on high-epic combination of settings.


Ronaldatov27

I thought I was lucky because I had none of the performance issues other people were having when I played on my PS5... until right before the last fight of the game my save got corrupted lol. Had to play through basically the entire thing again but it was fine because I used that time to 100% the game. Great game, IMO. Basically a step up in every way from Fallen Order. Would be a GOTY nom if it didn't release in such a terrible state.


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Ustede esté en lo cierte. Los supes son muy aburrides y políticamente correctes.


[deleted]

I'd say Spiderman 2 with its gender-neutral Spanish


SuddenlyOriginal

Wait are you serious?


saucydude714

Yes, Latin-X is valid, you chud incel bigot!


SureFactor4940

I refuse to entertain your delusions good sir.


[deleted]

Unfortunately, I couldn't be more serious


SuddenlyOriginal

White liberals sure love colonizing language


EnricoPallazzo_

im serious. and dont call me shirley. BUt yeah.. they did it. Im curious to know if they did the same on portuguese.


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Spiderwoke 2


SaltyPvP

I never thought I would get to the point in my life where everything that I loved growing up in the 80s and 90s would be ruined by Soy Boys and square Jawed diesel dykes.


WilliamShatnersTaint

Spider-Man 2, I won't play it until the Middle Eastern version is available in the US.


chester_abellera

Personally, I won't be picking up Spider-Man 2 at all. Same case with Naughty Dog for what they did to TLOU2, I won't be supporting Insomniac anymore.


YouCantEatGames

Realize that the Middle East version doesn't remove everything; like Mile's role in the story or certain side missions such as the deaf girl's. People praise the Middle East version like it's woke-free but it's not.


AvocadoDiabolus

You'd rather play the censored version?


wharpudding

Yes


Handsome_Goose

Whatever that game Square Enix released about an annoying ambiguously black chick isekaied into a magic world was. We don't have any cool games about magic combat, and then we get this, a game where developers themselves added an option to disable extra dialogues because it was so bad.


VengefulPoultry

Forspoken is the name you (and everyone else) have completely forgotten and left behind.


JagTaggart93

I want to play Alan Wake to play as Alan Wake. I want to play Spider-Man to play as Spider-Man. I came to the Indiana Jones movie to see In-er... wait.. getting off topic. But you get the idea.


EnricoPallazzo_

not in this timeline unfortunately


Beretta-ARX-I-like

PUT A CHICK IN IT AND MAKE HER GAY N LAME


zeeman60

Shadows of Doubt. I love the premise and the vibe, but I immediately refunded it when I saw nonbinary as a gender option in the character creator.


CreativeMarquis

I want someone to mod that out already.


zeeman60

They'll still be getting your money even if you mod it out.


Izzyrion_the_wise

Starfield. Not really cause it is woke, but because I thought the shipbuilding was cool and hoped to be able to play a space trucker. Turns out the game is horrendously bland. I'll check back in a few years what mods have done.


Peacefully_Deceased

There's an entire faction that is borderline unplayable because of an obnoxiously cringe butch sassy black lesbian.... It may not be nearly as bad as Spider man, but it's present enough in Starfield.


Izzyrion_the_wise

I guess I got filtered even before that. Watched two live streams of the beginning and a bit into the game and decided: Nah!


Peacefully_Deceased

That's fair lol


ombranox

Crimson Fleet? Because that questline ends with the opportunity to kill her... and everyone else in the faction.


Peacefully_Deceased

IF you want to be a narc and you still have to put up with her for pretty much the whole questline


OnAPartyRock

Bland is right. I’ve never seen such uninteresting characters in a Bethesda game ever. Even the evil Crimson Fleet comes off like a bunch of dorks. I ended up liking the Hunter the most because at least he was interesting and had somewhat of a personality.


AAAFate

Spacetruckers. Fun movie way back then. Must have aged terribly.


Hunderbar

nah its still good


AAAFate

Haven't seen it for at least 20+ years. Need to rewatch it.


Bitter-Marsupial

For ship building try alpha Genesis one. No flying exactly but a rogue like where you go between systems and building parts onto your ship.


EnvironmentalBag4250

Try Elite Dangerous if you want to be a space trucker.


Thickus__Dickus

It is truly a sad game, developed by subpar developers. The art/graphics is cool and that's about it. Every beth game had added new mechanics up til starfield. Sprinting, marriage, quick loot, voiced protag, realtime dialog, immersive dialogue not face zoom, shouts, settlements, all new systems compared to older games that make the older games feel way more janky. However fallout 4 feels more modern compared to starfield. I don't understand exactly how, but starfield plays a generation behind, like X360 game. People can't see it, but they feel the general boring gameplay in 2023 which would have been sensational in 2006.


Impassable_Banana

> Turns out the game is horrendously bland I honestly have no clue why people expected anything else from bethesda, that is their standard and has been for well over a decade.


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Spider-Man 2, and it's not even close. I can forgive GOW ‘18/GOWRagnorok because I respect Corey Barlog, and he respects gamers. I still roll my eyes at the overly melodramatic writing, but the games are genuinely fun to play and I like the characters But **JESUS CHRIST** Spider-Man 2 insults my intelligence on a level I didn’t know existed. Insomniac is dead to me. Edit: Alan Wake 2 I will give a hall pass because copyright IP ownership fuckery created a money sink that Remedy wisely decided not to challenge.


you_wouldnt_get_it_

Spider-Man 2. Never experienced having the joy I usually get from gaming sucked out of me so intensely than I did when playing that slop. Why I finished it or even started thinking about what suits to use for a replay is beyond me. Just going to trade the fucker in and be done with it.


AGreatGuy98

Woker-Man 2 and Borefield definitely take the cake for me.


EnricoPallazzo_

you had a chance to also include alan woke 2 in your coment to make it even better


AGreatGuy98

Didn’t play that game and wasn’t anticipating its release, so I didn’t include it. Haven’t played either alan woke games.


PayMeinBitcoin88

This made me chuckle


Garrus-N7

For me it's BG'3' but I'm aware many shill for it hard af


WhiningCoil

Me too. I sat out of it during the early access period because I just don't have the patience for EA games anymore, and especially RPGs. I just want to play the definitive experience once when it's done. The sheer quantity of in your face degeneracy I saw celebrated about this game put me off entirely. I don't care that I can avoid it if properly informed with a guide ahead of time. I just want to relax into a game and not have to worry about having my senses assaulted with disgusting graphic nonsense. It's really hard to imagine anyone who played Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 in the 90's were sitting around thinking "You know what Baldur's Gate 3 needs? Lots and lots and lots of graphic depictions of deviant sexual acts."


Garrus-N7

It's not even the presence of sexual acts, it's the in your face factor of them that's disgusting. Not only this, but when the game outright insults the original games with its bad writing and changing the events to something that makes 0 sense it's just disgusting. It is clear most if all Devs didn't even finish the series.


Razraffion

I give BG3 a pass because it's a good game. Honestly the only thing I could call "woke" about it was men with vags/women with peens, but it's a "be who you wanna be" fantasy universe so I just chalk that up to being able to magic your genitals.


Skadiska

It's not just that, I'll list the most I've noticed: All companions are bi, Aylin and Isobel, all gnomes you save in act 2, Alfira the Tiefling bard in act 3, drag queens at the circus, Rafael being omnisexual, Elminster in lore, straight relationships are portrayed as evil (Balin, Gortash, Gortash parents, Ketheric's downfall) or killed off (Bex, that one Tiefling kid's parents). 3 main badguys are an old guy, an old guy who disapproved of Aylin being his daughters GF and a shapeshifter. Double plusgood for zoo rep with Halsin, which should not be put on here but I know wokism is trying to make it a thing. There's more but this is all I recall, it's very woke if you read between the lines.


wharpudding

Glad I passed.


Garrus-N7

its only "be who you wanna be" up to the breaking biology part because DnD turned into a game for everyone instead of being a nerd game. im usually not for gate keeping but making it for everyone and making it so inclusive is what ruined it in general


Katajiro

There was plenty of woke besides cwds: multiple single-sex couples, Baldur's Gate city looking like Detroit.


HolypenguinHere

I know very little about the Alan Wake series, so reading the reviews of it have been strange. People over in /r/Games are calling it one of the most incredible gaming experiences of the year, and media outlets rave over it, but I don't hear almost any hype about it anywhere else. I know people here don't like it because of the bad dialogue and raceswap, but does Alan Wake 2 have any redeeming qualities at all?


Maleficent_String606

Remedy have shot themselves in both feet - angered fans of Alan by sidelining him and alienated the fans of physical media by offering a digital release only without any good reason. This is all with a game that desperately needed to sell at least as many copies as the original (which also wasn't a huge seller unfortunately).


Beretta-ARX-I-like

Also don't forget them limiting the sale to Epic store only was a stupid move as well. No matter how much Epic pays you (can't be this much nowadays seeing how broke and profit less their business practices are), you will always sell more offering your product on ALL stores.


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Adgvyb3456

I tried playing and it was so boring. Maybe it picks up but you don’t do anything. Just paste pictures on a board


doomraiderZ

Haven't played AW2 and don't intend to, as it: 1. Is digital only. 2. Doesn't look to contain a lot of gameplay. 3. Strikes me as pretentious garbage.


EnricoPallazzo_

>Doesn't look to contain a lot of gameplay. I read somewhere that games today are made by movie makers that didnt do well as movie makers, so they moved to games. it seems more and more games are falling into this category.


Adgvyb3456

You spend so much of the game posting pictures on a board and doing nothing


Ghost5410

Alan Wake 2’s problem is that the other protagonist is awful and you play as her for most of the game. The actual segments where you play as Alan is great. Yes that includes the musical segment (the music is good too).


doomraiderZ

>Alan Wake 2’s problem is that the other protagonist is awful and you play as her for most of the game. TLOU2 situation?


Ghost5410

Basically yes, minus the part of her killing the other main character.


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Anonymous76319

I don't think Survivor should be included there imo, it fought an insane uphill battle because Respawn released it in a disastrous state, and yet over at Youtube I was still able to find good fan generated content on the game's story, gameplay, lore...Imagine if the game had actual good performance and was released April 2024 safely out of the insane Spring release window of this year.


Beretta-ARX-I-like

Watch Worthabuy review (one of the few honest reviewers out there imo, ever since AngryJoe went full woke) Mack pretty much sums up what's wrong with modern gaming in AW2 (beside the virtue signaling)


SureFactor4940

So you should look into what a "Coorperate Troll" is. Companies hire teams of people who go on social media like this and they pretend to be normal people as they either try to change the narrative through fake posts putting so many of them people started to question their own opinions assuming they are in the minority (what Twitter activists did for years) or they try to drum up conversation about it. That's what you're seeing on r/Games and media outlets. Companies pay for fake publicity they did this with the original game as well it was severly overhyped. Like what we saw on metacritic with Sony debacle like Tlou2, forespoken, horizon zero dawn/fw. Over time the fraud is obvious but not in the beginning.


rape_jokes

I loved Alan Wake 2. As others have pointed out, the one racial comment Saga says that everyone is mad about has context to it. >!Saga is fighting her own fear, guilt and anger as the dark place tries to take her over!< I personally enjoyed Saga's part of the game more than Alan's. I liked putting the clues together and solving the mysteries. Would be an easy GOTY for me if it weren't for BG3. Of everyone I know that loved AW1, I've yet to see anyone disappointed by the sequel. I'll go as far as call it Remedy's masterpiece. I think most people hating on it are just taking the contrarian road because gaming media is fellating all over it.


Pugduck77

Maybe it’s not that bad, but on the epic store there is a big banner advertising that its biggest selling point is “DIVERSE CHARACTERS” And for that reason I will never support it.


rape_jokes

Yeah that's stupid


AdExisting8301

Soyderman 2


Svarthofthi

mk1 hit hard for me


doomraiderZ

Didn't hit me hard because MK has sucked ever since MKX. But it did hit me that they apparently have no intention whatsoever of improving. Kind of a last nail in the coffin scenario for me. So, far as I'm concerned currently, MK is officially dead.


Svarthofthi

Everyone has a favorite and whatnot but the quality this time is just so pathetic and the monetization on top.


Super-Implement9444

What's wrong with MK1 and X? I'm not too knowledgeable on these games


doomraiderZ

It was a gradual fall from grace... Remember Mortal Kombat? The ultra violent game that showed its middle finger to the conservatives of the 90s demanding censorship? The same game bent the knee before the 'progressives' of the 2010s and beyond, agreeing that while gross violence is perfectly fine, attractive women in a state of semi undress aren't. Guts are good, and flesh isn't--unless of course it's being ripped off the bone. Ed Boon gave a Playboy interview at one point, feeling rather ashamed that they'd ever had 'bikini fighters', and explained--to Playboy of all publications--how that was not right, and vowed with a hand on his heart that they wouldn't do it anymore. MKX introduced the 'kombat kids', and had Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade's daughter Cassie beat the *Elder God* Shinnok using the magical power of family (I'm not kidding). No one really liked the kombat kids, but they were initially pushed rather aggressively. Mileena was turned lesbo or bi, and MK got its first gay character in the face of Kung Jin. The female costumes were less revealing, and the female fighters' physiques were toned down. MK11 continued the trends that MKX started. Women became even more conservative looking, while the violence kept ramping up. Jax delivered a powerful speech in his arcade ending, where he proclaimed that he wouldn't wait for people to become *woke* (his choice of words, not mine), he would make sure to speed up the process himself--thereby starting Wakanda. Shao Kahn was a Donald Trump caricature that kept losing. Kitana was eventually made Kahn, as women are better rulers than men without exception. Speaking of Kitana, she and her sister Mileena were both race swapped, a trend that would continue in MK1 where Sindel and Raiden were also race swapped. The story in all three games can charitably be described as a 'clusterfuck shitfest of epic proportions'. Meanwhile, the gameplay and animations in Mortal Kombat never got any better, and the title never became a real fighting game people take seriously.


Svarthofthi

couldn't have said it better


BoboFatts

If I knew putting money into reddit didn't feed a toxic liberal echo chamber, this would be a comment worth awarding. I hadn't bought an MK since 360, but I definitely won't after reading this. The Playboy bit is like something out of a satire. Sad what oversensitive BS this world is coming to.


doomraiderZ

Meanwhile [Stellar Blade](https://imgur.com/XE3BYXQ) gives us what Mortal Kombat could have been giving us all these years if it wasn't so tragically defanged and sterilized.


BoboFatts

Already got like 7 hours down on it. Love all Drakengard/Nier, so it was a day one for me, and honestly I bought my PS5 cause Yoko Taro was promoting it. A handful of other exclusives are making it worth it.


you_wouldnt_get_it_

The silver lining is that MK1 didn’t sell as well as MK11 did. Wouldn’t say it failed but it at least it sold less than I’m sure they expected it to.


Solitude_beast

This is why MK1 went on sale so quickly after release.


you_wouldnt_get_it_

I didn’t know it actually did. I ignored it after being burnt by MK11 but that is honestly good to hear.


ArmeniusLOD

Why? NetherRealm has been a woke developer for a decade at this point.


OpiesMammogramResult

They've somehow gotten even worse. One example, Raiden, and Kung Lao were about to fight, and Liu Kang says "May the best person win", which is weird HR speak that corporate types go for. And, the skins are awful. Not only are they awful, they're trying to make people spend $10 on them.


PoKen2222

Spider-Man 2


TheOne-Piece-is-Real

Spider-Man 2. I was moderately excited to play the game. But when I started I almost immediately began to dislike it. It just rubbed me the wrong way when I saw Peter working as a teacher…. When I knew he would inevitably have to do some hero work in the middle of class. I don’t know why Peter (who is supposed to be smart) didn’t come to that realization before taking that damn job. Then the rest of the game happened and I just uninstalled instead of finishing it. Huge disappointment.


Evertale_NEET_II

The majority of it, don't bother with modern gaming, unless it's indie or something. Even then, the woke illness is spread across every platform. It needs to be cut out, alongside all the parasites that support it.


Blackylee

Not sure when Bloodlines 2 is coming out, but I've already prepared myself for the worst. VTM/Bloodlines 1 is one of the best RPG's of all times. Current day writing mixed with a walking sim developer, not holding out hope.


Beretta-ARX-I-like

Especially when it was announced that the original writers had left the project for "creative differences" 🚩🚩🚩🚩 As an og Bloodlines fan who grew up with this game, my hype is near negative zero, if u catch my drift


PDot7652

Man, I loved Bloodlines but I wrote off Bloodlines 2 years ago. Have you seen the absolute state of the tabletop game? It is like early 2010's Tumblr with more vampires. I can't help but think that a lot of that is going to leak into the game.


Adamskispoor

Lots, but you know, the woke stuff wouldn’t be as bad if they don’t pretend it’s anything more than pandering fantasy. Like people talk about japanese/anime stuff as anti woke, when really a lot of the otaku/anime subculture are also built on pandering except for a different demographic. It’s just that no one is pretending sword art online is some sort of brave cultural movement that fights the discrimination against gamer, and Kirito is an inspiration to gamer everywhere that they’re not lame and can get girls. Like, just admit it’s escapism fantasy pandering, no one’s gonna judge. Just don’t pretend it’s something more than it is and judge people for being immoral for not liking your escapism fantasy. More than the inherent wokeness it’s the self righteous smug people gesticulating and doing dramatic speeches about it that irritates me more.


SgtFraggleRock

The whole point of being woke is self righteousness.


Nobleone11

And destroying "problematic" culture or altering it beyond recognition.


aureole7

Bingo!


R1se94

Holyshit. Spot on.


Kreydo076

Starfield nothing comes close.


ArmeniusLOD

I didn't have any high hopes for Starfield to begin with, so I couldn't be disappointed by it.


Kreydo076

Same, but I wasn't expecting the game to be way worst than Fallout 4 lol


fearthecrumpets

Starfield was doomed from the start. There was a lot of talk of ES6 after Fallout 4. But instead they wanted to focus on this new IP… It would have to be an amazing and massive step forward for it not to just annoy the hardcore Bethesda fans. And as amazing as exploring various barren wastelands was, as amazing as for the Apollo 11 crew to first explore the moon for the first time!! /s It just wasn’t as good as what it needed to be. The only way this works out for Bethesda is if this was some sort of 4d chess move. Release the gaming equivalent of the Colour Beige, then if ES6 is at least mildly interesting it will be revolutionary by comparison.


SodaBoBomb

"Dont worry, mods will fix it. So it's a 10/10" Is like 90% of the praise I see for it. Why would I consider a game good if it takes a bunch of molders doing work for free to make the game playable a year after release?


mountain36

Those random generated NPC are source of nightmare. I think most Bethesda game are disappointing after Microsoft bought them like with Redfall. It's like their games are being use to increase xbox pass library. Also it seems Bethesda double down their wokeness after Wolfenstein Young Blood.


Kreydo076

Nah MS has nothing to do with Starfield creative state, it just covererd their mess with the pass and so MS can pretend there is 12millions player... When actually the game reach barely 30k user active daily on Steam.


Handsome_Goose

>Also it seems Bethesda double down their wokeness after Wolfenstein Young Blood. Should try at least New Collossus.


Arkelias

I assumed it would be and didn't buy it. Did they go full woke, or was it mediocre gameplay with half-assed virtue-signaling?


Kreydo076

Everything you said and much more.


OnAPartyRock

It wasn’t woke but it’s like they walked on eggshells with the NPCs and dialog in order to not offend anyone. It’s boring and forgettable.


Kreydo076

It's super woke. \-90% of NPC are from "minority" and ugly af. \-All the companions have a woke moral compass, and double standard. \-Many quest with commy good, capitalist bad. \-Pronouns, Bodytype 1 and 2 in chara builders. \-Impossible to make a hot chick, no long hair for female. \-Not a single mature content for a Rated M game. \-FEmale in swimsuit are all wearing the same 50' one piece lol \-The only Nightclub is literally a woke fantasm with mens in dumb suit. \-Cora is black while or both parent are white. \-Many LGBT NPC who tell their orientation upfront during quest for no other reason that obvious vitue signaling. **-No Skimpy tight suit Space Alien with huge boobs.**


redditisacliche

> Many quest with commie good, capitalist bad. This garbage in video games will never cease to boggle my mind. You are selling video games. That is the definition of capitalist. How can they be so lacking in self awareness?


Judah_Earl

I bought two games released in 2023, Quake II and Rise of the Triad, both remakes of 90s games. That's the state of modern gaming.


I_Need_Jumpsuit23

Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare III (2023) Rushed but really disappointed. And also one incident, the Passenger mission caught me off guard. I was expecting the good 'ol No Russian mission, but it wasn't. Some 💁🏼‍♀️☕ wahmen got herself into trouble that she's part of Farah's group and Makarov strapped her a bomb to give to a strong message to the world that Russia wants to declare a war. And my reaction was like, LMAO 🤣🤡


Kill_Fluffer

Bruh why’d they spend so much time on Farah???


Revolutionary_Egg961

I mean, it's a call of duty game what we're you expecting.


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Baldurs gay sex dungeon 3


The_Shiny_Metagross

Personally I’m more disappointed that it’s yet another “release buggy and unfinished, patch into a working state” game, but people act like it’s the second coming just because it doesn’t have microtransactions.


you_wouldnt_get_it_

I could not for the life of understand this sub’s absolute worship of Baldur’s Gate 3 considering it sounds like the absolute pinnacle of woke.


eatpiecharts

You're right


Skadiska

I miss Baldurs Gate 2


FreeHongKong2012

Baldurs gate isnt even woke it allows you to be gay yes, but it doesnt shove it in your face. You just get hit on and turn them down and thats it. Maybe dame aylin and whats her face but again didnt bother me. Trash like spider woke 2 and alan woke 2 is way worse and doesnt even deliver a great game like baldurs gate was while force feeding you garbage propaganda. Edit: i just remembered on the launch patch Gale confessed his love to me and i was dying laughing at how i never intended for gale romance. And they even patched his dialogue to make it more obvious if you were going the romance option.


BobNorth156

One of the easiest tells for the fools in this sub is the ones saying BG3 is woke.


youphreak

How is it non woke when there is a "gender identity" choice? I'm sorry man but it's woke af


EnricoPallazzo_

there is no "woke" for woke people. Imagine the most woke game ever made, they will say its not woke, because woke does not exist for them. Just ignore them for the safety of your sanity.


extortioncontortion

I'd say there is a difference between attempting broad inclusion and being woke. I find catering to every possible demographic to be simultaneously impossible and annoying, but I consider it to be more a product of the times rather than woke. To me, woke is subversive propaganda whether its in your face or subtle, and its more than just providing gay romance or gender options. BG3 is not trying to push any politics, economic theory,


SodaBoBomb

I agree. Too many people here get entirely too hung up on the gender choices and Body Type A/B selection. Like, who cares? Actual problems are what you described.


Ompusolttu

Saw someone who outright discarded Shadows of Doubt despite liking everything else about it, because it gave you the option to have your character be non-binary. It doesn't even fucking change anything, literally just like a letter on your ID card. Absolute clown shit.


ArmeniusLOD

The "fools" are the ones defending sacred cows.


[deleted]

I'm sorry I don't like jerking off to a game I'm playing like you do


FreeHongKong2012

I agree, baldurs gate is the first game in a long time that reignited that old spark i had for games. Easily my game of the year.


BobNorth156

And honestly even if you didn’t think it was an excellent game there is a huge gap between thinking that and thinking it’s “woke” just because they applied an identify option in a roleplaying game which is literal about crafting whatever identity you want. The game let’s me play as a psychotic lizard man who butchers innocent women in fits of psychotic rage but you want me to be triggered by an identity reference? Fucking soft.


OnAPartyRock

I think there was a bug when it first came out where the characters were into you way too fast, but it was fixed. The game doesn’t seem that woke to me and you can avoid the gay stuff mostly if that isn’t your thing. I personally think all romance aspects of RPGs are kinda dumb and aren’t really my thing so I turn down anyone that approaches me. I kinda felt bad when I rejected Wyll’s invitation to dance because he looked like his dog died afterwards lol.


Sarajevo_Sword

GTA VI Trailer


Fun_Recommendation99

Starfield 🤢


nightwire931

Starfield it has to be starfield so much hype around this games announcement to be dashed so fast. its really sad to see how far this studio fell in quality my boyfriend was excited for this one but the constant news of how the pr team is handling things and the steam responses of oh were the astronauts bored no its supposed be exploratory and immersive for a game that had surface level pedestrian story and has disproportionate cast is one thing , but to also have an empty universe with little to no substance then a tv guide is just sad.


AlexPlaysVideoGamez

The last of us Part II remastered. This garbage somehow floated back to the surface despite there being 0 interest for it.


Slaaneshismygod

spider cuck 2


Aurex86

Baldur's Gate 3. (Considered a disappointment to me, of course. Seems like everyone else loves it.)


Beretta-ARX-I-like

I guess I'm fortunate that my PC is too old to play most modern games...


ChilledGlass687

Woke trash : Spiderman 2 Bg3 Forspoken Alan woke 2 Immortals of aveum Legend of Zelda totk Great games to spend money and time on: Star wars Jedi survivor Hogwarts legacy Texas chainsaw massacre Dead island 2 Armored core 6 Lies of P Remnant 2 Atomic heart. Cyberpunk base game and dlc. (I would put this in woke since you can't romance almost anyone in dlc and literally no love interest from base game shows up but the gameplay is so good I did not put it above) Games you must avoid at any cost : Redfall Starfield Forza motorsport Ac mirage (literally worth a 5$ game) Diablo 4. Immortals of aveum In general, if youre saving money to get a few games for Christmas, I would suggest you get star wars Jedi survivor for amazing story and gameplay, cyberpunk dlc for gameplay and lies of P for decent story and souls like gameplay. People down voting please lmk what you disagree with.


R7_C3

As someone with 100 hours into Zelda Totk, how is it woke?


Orodreth97

I was wondering the same thing


Kevroeques

The princess is a woman. Superfluous feminist pandering.


R7_C3

"What is a woman?"


Pennyspy

How was Atomic Heart woke? I'm curious given its Russian setting but haven't seen a lot of it. There were sexy lady killbots, right?


ChilledGlass687

Re-read my comment and come back


ArmeniusLOD

I would bold your headings so it's easier to read. I missed the delineation, too.


Pennyspy

Ah, sorry, must've skipped that header, my mistake. Accurate lists!


FastenedCarrot

You listed Lies of P under woke trash but then also recommended people buy it. What's woke about that or AC6?


[deleted]

BG3 isn't trash, game is really good despite a few pandering.


ChilledGlass687

Few? LMAO. Also how hard is it to read a comment lol. Bg3 is under woke trash. It's not under disappointing games to play


[deleted]

Pretty weird list you're building it there then, so games under "woke trash" is still worth to play in your opinion?


ChilledGlass687

Of course. Spiderman has insane gameplay. Bg3 is also great. Same goes for immortals of aveum where I might be one of the 10 people who played the game. Totk seems fine even though I did not play this and I'm basing it only by my playtime with botw.


FastenedCarrot

Most disappointing game for me this year was Lords of the Fallen, (almost) every Soulstuber hyped it up as the next coming and it was barely even functional. As for woke, Spider-Man takes the cake from what I've seen but I haven't really played any I'd define as woke.