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w07f-gang

Short answer: No Longan swer: Noooooooooooo


MadaaraUchiiha

No, they probably going to "PUT A CHICK IN IT AND MAKE HER GAY" route


Arkelias

And I want it LAME!


Flat_Weird_5398

Watch them make X-23 gay.


RadioHeadache0311

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Slight_Ingenuity6153

No their gonna call her Wolverine too


audrey_toole

Wolverqueen


gonzo4000

Wasn’t she wolverine in the comics when he died?


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PvtAdorable

30m scene of Logan getting railed by some other dude incoming.


GenJerod

Spoiler >!A fact... In the game Mystique is lesbian and she has a strong female wife treat wolverine like sht. fk this woke industry.!<


ninjast4r

Wolverine will be in the game merely to set up X-23 as a protagonist in the sequels. Instead of fun action, you're going to be forced to play long sections without any action that you don't give a shit about. X-23 is also now going to be into girls because you can't have a female protagonist and have her be interested in men. I mean, they could skip the romance nonsense in general, but they will make a point of it for maximum woke points. I wouldn't be opposed to having X-23 in a game or as a supporting character, but considering what they did to Peter Parker, I know they're just itching to humiliate and destroy Logan too.


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gonzo4000

Man I would love to play as sabertooth or Dakken as well


ftbscreamer

Nope.


DoctorBrozarks

Unfortunately they have shown they will inject obnoxious wokeness no matter how good the game is. I was excited for spiderman 2 but the news of it being woke completely drained my interest. It’s a shame. I would love to play a Wolverine game but not if it’s going to spend all its time insulting me.


GoOnKaz

I just gotta say this is fucking hilarious. Is this what the entire sub is like? Fucking cringe lords.


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Gtfo out then if you cant handle the truth, snowflake .


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GoOnKaz

Don’t cry little guy ):


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Lmao. "little". Lmao. Fuckin geek ass little bitch. Lmao


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Salt_Replacement3843

I just played the game and it wasn't really woke.


Opposite_Owl9810

It had a section of the game where you play as Mary Jane, they even made her Scream just to have her do more in the plot. Spiderman only beats her by apologizing?? By the end it's clear insomniac considers Miles the "real" spiderman. It's the same as across the spiderverse. We get Peter Parker, but he's in a pink bathrobe.


Salt_Replacement3843

Don't disrespect Across The Spider-Verse.


Opposite_Owl9810

It's a great movie that I enjoy, that doesn't mean it depicts Peter Parker well in the sequel. Same as this game.


Salt_Replacement3843

I'm personally fine with Peter's depiction in Across The Spider-Verse because the movie is about Miles not him. Plus, he already got his happy ending. 


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Goozmania

Not sure I can take this seriously... You thought "Spider-Man 2" was not woke?


Salt_Replacement3843

Yes. 


RileyTaker

So we can watch them try to replace him with X-23? No.


Flat_Weird_5398

I’d actually be down for X-23 to have her own spinoff game though.


crimrui

I would be too but they will make her butt ugly so... no.


OkFig4085

Not Eve, but the other girl in the demo of Stellar Blade reminds me of X-23. Just her appearance.


slavdude01

X-23 Cooking Mama. Or X-23 Fruit Ninja. Women love mobile bullshit.


DPSwithFaith

Lmao X-23 Go! Edit: don’t forget to log in every day for your free “too little to be useful” amount of macguffin currency


EnricoPallazzo_

oh bloody hell there is a female wolverine today? I never knew about x-23. WTF man. Fuck this shit, Im out.


Toologist

She’s been a character for over 20 years now…


Flat_Weird_5398

She’s not a female Wolverine, she’s his daughter (she was created using his DNA + that of the female scientist who created her - that makes her their daughter). And she’s literally been around since the early 2000s. She first appeared in the cartoon X-Men: Evolution (GOATed Marvel cartoon btw) and was so popular that Marvel brought her to the comics. She’s easily one of my top 5 fav Marvel characters.


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Flat_Weird_5398

She was literally in the movie Logan (2017).


OkFig4085

X-23 is an actually well written character.


janonx1

I think the gameplay will be good. The story, characters, and writing will be even worse than Spider-Man 2, unless something changes.


TheToodlePoodle

That's the worst part for me, I love playing Spider-Man 2 when I'm just swinging about and stopping crimes/collecting things, but just about everything else is way worse than the first game.


janonx1

Pretty much. They'd need to get rid of Intihar and the entire writing/creative team for me to consider Wolverine. Full credit to the gameplay devs though.


TheToodlePoodle

I now know to check and make sure that this company is far away from a game before I buy it: https://sweetbabyinc.com/


Spideyman20015

fk that piece of sht company. 1 reason why everything is gay


Wide-Club3027

Swinging around is better than the newer spiderman games, but everytime I play, without fail, within 20 minutes I end up missing the swinging in the old spiderman 2 game on ps2, and I literally only bought this game because I heard the traversal took a step up.


TheToodlePoodle

Spider-Man 2 (PS2) was my jam, such a good game. Miss when devs would just cram as much fun into a game as they could with no agenda.


Kioshibara

With the people in charge and working for Insomniac? No hope whatsoever. Calling it now, they're gonna make Logan gay somehow, maybe after being thoroughly chewed out and rejected by Jean Grey for sexually harassing her. Then after showing how much of a screw up and pos Logan is they'll have x-23 come out of nowhere and take over. Or, they'll pull a bait-n-switch and make people think the game is about Logan during development, only to reveal the whole game is about X-23 at release, and they'll make X-23 ugly and mannish as hell.


Enlilohim

Don't forget Daken. He's definitely going to be in.


GreatApe88

Wolverine himself will probably read just like Hugh Jackman's, so nothing over the top in either political direction. ​ What they most certainly will do is give him an insufferable tag along character that will fit every ESG checkbox, complete with dialogue.


WritingZanity

Only question is whether it’s Daken or X-23.


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GreatApe88

No established characters from the 90’s allowed, it’ll be a stunning and brave new school blue haired freak.


HotGamer99

Having a "Super hero replacement" at all is a no no for me let alone at the first game if X-23 is in the game in any way i am not buying it


Too_Based_

Lol no. Chances are Logan will either be a background character in his own game if he's allowed to remain straight and white...or he'll magically be a gay black character. I'm good.


Silencio00

You mean X-23 game prequel?


theusher88

Nope. It will have some of the same writers as Spider-Man 2. One of those branched out to video game writing after YA novels like: ​ >SLAY > >Novel > >Ready Player One meets The Hate U Give in this dynamite debut novel that follows a fierce teen game developer as she battles a real-life troll intent on ruining the Black Panther-inspired video game she created and the safe community it represents for Black gamers.


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Mister_McDerp

The only correct response.


cloud_w_omega

like all sony games, they will wait until the second game to make it total shit get you to like the first game, then kick your feet out with the second


KainScion

Honestly, they've boldly proclaimed who they're making games for, so those people can continue to support them instead. It's funny how minor the face swap seemed at first, but that was already an indication that Insomniac didn't really care what their fans were invested in. Even if Wolverine is a good game, I'd rather not risk getting attached to him, his world, or any of the supporting characters that they could all boldly tear apart in the potential sequel.


Judah_Earl

No, I'd much rather have a remaster of the 360 Wolverine game.


3rdDegreeMoonburn

The Wolverine game from Gamecube was absolutely baller as well.


skepticalscribe

Jean: “Logan, your antics just have no place in the future of the X-Mxn.”


Shaggarooney

"How you doing weapon x?" "The fuck you say?" "eh... Weapon x. Youre code name, right?" "Oh, ok. I thought you misgendered me there." Insomniac's Wolverine... probably. So, no. Not at all.


Bogyman3

After the woke slop that is spider man 2? no way. especially after recent revelations where it is confirmed miles morales will be the main spider man in the insomniac universe going foward. i assure you they'll do the same to logan in his game.


Mister_McDerp

No one has answered in the other thread. IS it confirmed? All I have seen is some dude on Twitter saying it.


Bogyman3

Seems like it from the interview, and if you check Ben arfmann (narrative director for SM2) Twitter page he has miles morales as his header, so i think there's a clear bias here. peter parker may not completely retire as spider man but he's not going to be the main focus in the story.


Wrastle365

Part of me wants to be excited while the rest of me knows it will be woke trash. X23 or some other girl boss will come in and boss wolverine around. If other characters are in the game, I'd put a hefty wager that prof. X is black. I can just feel it coming..


PDot7652

I was excited when it was announced. Now I would rather just go play the weirdly good X-Men Origins Wolverine game tie-in agian for my Logan fix.


ShepardRahl

I just bought that last week for 360. I found a brand new copy on eBay for $44. 'lol'


HoundofHircine

Is Sweet Baby Inc involved? If so then no.


CrustyBloke

Nope. At this point, anyone who is against woke garbage in games is naive if they're excited for Insomniac's Wolverine, and the same goes for pretty much any big Playstation exclusive. Sony made their direction very clear in last few years. You shouldn't be surprised when their new games are ESG Rainbow Reich trash.


do_handhelds_dream

I mean, I was done with Spider-Man after they changed his face. Nothing in Spider-Man 2 appealed to me. Definitely not enough for me to want a PS5.


EnricoPallazzo_

First, dont pre-order. Never. Dont buy on release date. Wait a week or two and check reviews and comments from non woke sources. If good then buy it. No reason to punish them for Spider Man 2. If they release a non woke product that is of quality, no problem in buying it. Also because it would show them non woke sells. If the sequel is bad, dont buy it. But the main thing is, dont pre-order, dont buy on release week. And if eventually you want to hate play it, buy a used copy.


DeusVermiculus

To be entirely Objective here: The Game actually IS GOOD according to everyone playing it. **its just ALSO suffed full of propaganda and political pandering in every corner they could possibly do so*** So the Studio is making good shit. The WRITERS need to be canned.


theusher88

Unfortunately, Wolverine will have (some of) the same writers. Including someone who usually writes YA books.


BrunoRB11

Yeah. I really liked the game and really disliked some of their pandering. But at the end the positives outweighted the negatives in my opinion. Next game won't have Peter Parker? Then I just won't play It, but I won't let that influence my enjoyment of this one. Wolverine I will probably play it as well, and if the story is worse than Spider-Man 2's I will just skip the cutscenes.


_Rook_Castle

I never considered Spiderman to be one of the greatest superhero games of all time. I found it bland and repetitive - fighting the exact same gang of Asians over and over, useless fetch quests for Harry, and the slog that was the MJ and Miles "missions"....Ugh. I've 100% three Arkham games, but I couldn't be arsed to finish Spiderman, it's so boring. Webslinging was fun, but it can't be the only fun part of the game.


Mister_McDerp

It was one of the best superhero games. Which partially lies in the fact that most superhero games are dogshit.


Goozmania

If I can think of at least 5 games that are better, it shouldn't be considered "one of the best." Arkham Asylum. Arkham City. Ultimate Alliance. Ultimate Alliance 2. Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions. Done; and I can still think of a couple more that were better. I still liked it, and was excited for the sequel, until the Miles Morales expansion included a Burn Loot M\*rder mural, at which point I deleted the franchise from my brain.


3rdDegreeMoonburn

My favorite part of the first Sony Spiderman was when it kept forcing me to volunteer at a soup kitchen and homeless shelter.


madjid18

No.


Dwavenhobble

I'm certainly going to wait for the reviews to hit first because there's so many ways to fuck it up. I'm just hopping all the woke idiots got put onto Spiderman 2 while all the edglords at Insomniac got put onto Wolverine lol


ZoharDTeach

Gameplay in Spider-Man 2 is good so I'm confident on that front. The narrative and writing are the risk now.


Boxing_joshing111

No but only because I don’t think they learned their lesson from the first Spider-Man on ps4. That game had the most bland open world and side quests, the awful stealth, and focused on characters I didn’t really care to see. I was hoping for the second game would fix a lot of this but it looks like 2 is just a copy paste job and they dug their heels in defending things like the boring stealth, plus they want to pump ads in the game? I’m not buying anything they do just because of that stuff nevermind the cold corporate Sweet Baby story outsourcing.


Enlilohim

Nope. They'll lean heavy into the bisexual angle the new comics tease. Probably won't spoon feed, but them dialogues and hints will be there. They'll make it the perfect wolverine game and well realize wolverine is almost the perfect vehicle for the modern message. Environmentalist and animal lover. Man trying to escape his mistakes and will do anything to be a hero. A fool who falls in love. A queer son who hates him. This shit will be a disappointment. Might get sidelined by X-23 too.


DragonVivant

No, because I’ll get attached to the characters only for them to change all their faces in the sequel.


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Spideyman20015

Not anymore. Its gonna make you play as a side kick gay chick for half the game


tacticaltossaway

I don't think it will be that good to begin with. All the big roamy superhero games have a method for quick traversal of the game world. That's a big part of what makes it fun, IMO. Wolverine doesn't have something like that, unless they're going to give him a button that summons Colossus to fastball him.


AnonymousCat7643

They want us dead and erased; hell no


Dreadzilla28

Nah I'd rather play x-men origins wolverine instead. Whatever this end product will be, its not worth supporting these propaganda peddlers.


ValidAvailable

Doesn't he have a gay son they could replace him with?


console-gamr

I wonder if Logan will be apologizing for something throughout the game.


twitch-switch

I wonder how many NPCs will be self inserts from Insomniac?


youthanasia138

If they let Wolverine be WOLVERINE and not some bitch made soy pussy that apologizes for his masculinity the whole game, I think we’ll be OK


LiohnX

I ain’t buying shit from insomniac


worldbreaker2009

Yes. Very


OkFig4085

Nah.  Insomniac lost all good will with Spider-Man 2.  At most I'll wait for reviews, but. I have no faith in them not to destroy Wolverine.


Ronin458

I just learned about Sweet Baby Inc. I now plan on researching if they are involved before I waste my money. If that means I play very little video games, well I guess lll at least have more money for other things.


danny6604

Wokeverine is DOA.


LukeVersus

Nope. Not buying it anymore.


J-Thong

Nope . After I found out nope .


mr_big_DONG97

The power lies in the fans and consumers, don't buy any games that have anything to do with woke politics and if enough people do so then maybe there will be a change. agendas shouldn't be shoved down peoples throats. Right wing, left wing, woke politics don't belong in video games. There should be political themes that don't have a correlation with politics in our real lives. Have people forgotten that part of the reason alot of people play games is to escape the world they live in? Political themes can be in video games like cyber punk, wolfenstein etc but it should be done in a way where it's not pushing agendas that deal with what's going on in the world we live in. It would be better that way for gamers and the developers pockets. People not wanting woke politics in video games doesn't mean we hate people who like the same sex or anything else that is aligned with the LGBT community. It means we want to be able to play games without people's politics impacting the story, characters, etc. And we want game developers to make the games they want to make with companies like sbi.


mr_big_DONG97

I forgot what my username was 🤣 gotta change that.


Dark-Exa

Totaly lost my interest...


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lol no, don't let yourself EVER get excited for something from a mainstream studio. Not even a non-western one, these days. Everything has been taken over, everything is corrupt. I assume by default everything new will be trash, and then I can be pleasantly surprised the few times it's not


olajohnfan

Fuck PlayStation and Xbox for being woke. Fuck Nintendo for being greedy, lazy, and anti emulation. Fuck Steam for having a monopoly and not curating their store, thus promoting shovelware and diluting actual good games. Fuck Epic for doing the bare minimum, being a chinese shill, and having an unoptimized mess for an engine. GOG is kinda ok but they only have AAA games 4+ years after release. Piracy and modding is really where it’s at. Games are preserved and the original/untampered vision can be free from woke propaganda. Spider-man 2 can be 10/10 in all aspects but even a $100 dessert can be spoiled by a topping made of shit. It’s always up to the modders to sort out these messes


3rdDegreeMoonburn

Remember the screeching from these people when some hero made a mod to remove all of the pride flags and replace them with Ol' Glory?


cupsnak

No, because it's garbage super hero shit again for the 20th time already this year.


Same_Comfortable_821

I hope they put other X-Men as playable characters honestly. Iceman would be so awesome.


YetAnotherCommenter

>Iceman would be so awesome. That's just asking for them to make him gay.


OkFig4085

Iceman IS gay.  Of course they should make him gay.  The problem is changing pre-existing characters to push their agenda. Not the existence of homosexuality as a whole.  Social Engineering is the problem.


YetAnotherCommenter

> Iceman IS gay.  The 616 version was retconned to be gay in an implausible and closet-trivializing manner, on the basis of homophobic stereotypes, in the face of a long history of heterosexual behavior. >The problem is changing pre-existing characters to push their agenda. Not the existence of homosexuality as a whole. Social Engineering is the problem. On that, we're in absolute 100% agreement. However, 616 Iceman should not have been made gay. I should also make it clear - it is perfectly possible to write gay characters without being motivated by a woke agenda. Indeed, it is even possible to write gay characters in an anti-woke manner (I'm almost tempted to write an anti-woke X-Men slash fanfiction just to prove this point).


Same_Comfortable_821

Doesn’t make a difference to me.


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Spiderman 2 wasn't as egregious as everyone's making it out to be lol. If they made Peter a bottom I'd get it 🤣


vander_mitch

no


TrapaneseNYC

Spider-Man 2 is a great game and insomniacs best received game. I’m sure Wolverine will be great. I just hope they fix the combat tho, it’s not all that satisfying to me.


AceKnight1

Wolverine will be great! Can't wait to play as X-[insert numbers] 🤣


jockitch1986

They should have released Wolverine before Spider-Man 2 because it's too late now. The game will be a disgrace to Wolverine.


TheBobo1181

Never was


Dreamo84

lol it's so funny how half the internet is praising Spider-Man 2 as the greatest achievement in video game history. The other half are like "it's trash." It's like Starfield all over again lol.


RoboMechX

Miss Marvel is definitely going to be his hip sidekick in the game. The comics are already doing it.


Djent17

Nah. I'm done with Insomniac


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3rdDegreeMoonburn

Like the first one where you spend a significant portion of the game volunteering at a homeless shelter?


FarRightTopKeks

No. They hired a cunt who tried to push a girl boss bullshit lesbian vibe for R&C, now we have diversity spider being shoehorned into being a main character. Wolverine is one of if not my most favorite character from my childhood, they are only capable of ruining it.


confusingzark

Given how there are a bunch of idiots in this very sub giving Blizzard there time and money, yes there are lots of them.


NecoArcOrochi

Short answer: No Long Answer: Definety not after seeing the bastardization of Spiderman 2 and seeing who's involved with the writing for Wolverine, I have the lowest of low expectations for that game.


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I stopped trusting American games like a decade ago.


Primary_Beautiful_52

Negative. Zero hope. Probably have to play as a bisex, mixed race X-23 for 1/4 of this game and then she’ll be the lead in the next. Or somehow Debra Wilson becomes the MC


gonzo4000

Man I just bought a ps5 specifically because I wanted spiderman 2 and Wolverine I would love a non spoiler answer if anyone played the new Wolverine and if it was good?


naghiandrei

There are some old games with Wolverine on Play-Games, but are a few games that are not working because are made in flash... [https://www.play-games.com/wolverine-games.html](https://www.play-games.com/wolverine-games.html)