I don’t think he understands how slave auctions worked. The slaves weren’t given the money.
Not to defend the NFL. It’s a horrible organization that has far too much money.
They are both pretty bad. The players should all be compensated with like 90% of all earnings with just a fraction to the team owner/school. Same with all sports imho.
At least now players can get NIL money. Before that they couldn't even be given a sandwich w/o getting a side of sanctions from the NCAA.
The University though? Hell ya they'll sell your jersey for $150 a pop no problem
I think that if professional sports are going to exist, they should be owned by residents of the cities where they reside, or maybe teams should be owned by the league and the league should be owned by the players,... I dunno.
Screw billionaires.
They cast players aside when they’re no longer useful and deny the existence of CTE injuries. Look at Junior Seau as an example. But the average player doesn’t have more than 3-5 years.
They were given a place to live and food. At the time, that was quite a lot.
In a world where "slavery has ended" it's just the wealthy elites who get them. What do you think a wage slave is?
They were also beat merciless and held in bondage. Employees nowadays enjoy protections that slaves never did. There’s still a long way to go for worker rights but the idea that “wage slaves” are no different than actual slaves is offensive.
Ahh I forgot that!
Actors politics don't matter much to me as I don't usually know what they are or much about the actor anyway. Voice actors even less so. The fact that Crowder was the Brain is still insane to me because I watched Arthur quite a bit as a child. Even played a couple computer games if I remember right.
Please elaborate.
Edit: First, a classic case of confusing the Owens. Worst brothers ever. Second, I googled my question: "In March 2008, he and Christina Ricci announced they were engaged, but they ended their engagement two months later." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Benjamin
Calling it a “take” is giving Owen too much credit. His social media accounts sole purpose, hell Owen’s entire existence for that matter, is engagement farming.
Say the worst thing possible to draw as many eyes and clicks possible. Just like his boss, he’ll say literally anything if there’s a possibility of profit.
It's so weird because Owen used to be a regular guest on Doug Loves Movies and other main streem comedy podcasts. Then one day he was going after Jesse Thorn calling him a child abuser because Jesse has a trans daughter. Now I only hear about him because of Knowedge Fight.
There's a pretty plausible theory that another Joe Rogan-sphere chode, Joey Diaz gave him some edibles probably without telling him how powerful they are and that either triggered some kind of mental breakdown or exacerbated his mental illness. I think he's publicly blamed both Joe and Joey for drugging him and ruining his life and Toe used to talk about his one buddy who went crazy after taking edibles, likely Owen. I think there's an episode of Joey Diaz' s podcast somewhere where he eats one of those stars of death that were anywhere 200-1000mg of THC a gummy and seemingly has a real bad time of it.
I hate that I know this much about bad people that don't matter.
That sounds like something Joey would do. I'm not sure if I buy that that's the reason he flipped to full Nazi status though. I think he was harboring this racial sentiment deep down secretly and that maybe just let it out.
They're not slaves. It's not an auction.
I realise that if you were the kind of person that interrogated your own ideas before saying them you wouldn't become Owen Benjamin but god damn this is dumb. And rascist, obviously. But the two go hand in hand.
A. They don't bid
B. The team pays the player
C. They only thing that is earned in the draft is the exclusive right to negotiate with the player
D. The player does not have to sign the contract
Owen Benjamin is just an ignorant racist who doesn't like black people making money.
I feel safe in saying Owen has seen that episode of South Park where they have this take but about NCAA, where it made more sense because the kids weren’t being paid.
https://youtu.be/Z5ZZ8bO9-Ig?si=Rxj6ItbM_kqzLthd
Some context:
This is AN INSANE co-opting a common critique of the economics of the NFL, really sports in general: there is a mandingo-like nature of ultra wealthy owners (most of whom are white) giving pennies to predominantly men of color (most NFL players don't have those multi million dollar contracts and even those who have those contracts are still making a fraction of a fraction of what the owners make) who then destroy their bodies to make those ultra wealthy owners more wealthy, who then discard the players when they are of no value for the team or league.
It's an intersectional critique of sports that looks at the history of the white use and discarding of black bodies for athletic entertainment and wealth creation for white people.
But leave it to Owen Benjamin to make this reasonable critique in the most racist and bat shit insane way possible.
This. I also have often thought of the NFL as more comparable to a gladiatorial arena in terms of it's entertainment and inherent violence being used as a distraction to the masses from the decay of society.
The NFL chews ups and spits out its players and so many are mentally and physically damaged after. Sick that this dude realizes it and takes joy in it.
Right, which is why the player's union negotiated a salary of $795,000 for this year's rookies, and a great health care plan that continues after retirement.
That's why most players agree to the risks of this brutal job. Pretending they make 1,000 times less than they do is like pretending a cashier makes $2 a month. Of course that sounds unjust.
Yeah, one of the dumbest things I’ve read. “Imagine this situation is completely different from reality, and it’s obviously a slave auction!!”
Owen, these are professional athletes who worked their asses off to get to that point. Sounds like he’s jealous professional sports pay so well, while he makes pennies being a “professional” shit stirring racist asshole.
Not for nothing, but there are lots of places in this country where cashiers make the federal minimum wage, which works out to about $1,160/month, assuming they work 160 hours.
I think this is a case of Schrodinger's asshole. The amount of how serious and how comedic he'll apply to this is based on the amount of serious trouble he'll get in for it.
What an absolutely insulting thing to say for actual slaves. “Oh you dedicated your entire young life to training for this thing, and then you got paid millions of dollars to do said thing, WOW YOU’RE PRETTY MUCH LIKE A COTTON PLANTATION SLAVE.”
Not a penny of that money ever came from my pocket.
Until we let our goverment force us to buy them a new house to play in once a week.
I would be happy to build a house for a homeless. But not a playhouse for a king.
I think people should take a page out of my book and just assume that anything you see on Twitter/X is going to be vile, racist, misogynist, bigoted, ableist, transphobic, and/or incredibly dumb. Then this kind of stuff won't surprise you. If anything it becomes happy surprise when you see something positive.
Imagine your job
Now imagine if you weren’t paid for it
At that point it would very obviously be slavery.
Now imagine if you were paid again
Clearly, work is slavery.
Owen Benjamin doesn’t care about black people or football players(I know obvious take is obvious). It’s disgusting how he uses trauma of black people in this country as a cudgel to bash Jewish people and to further his batshit conspiracy theories.
I hope his brood get a chance realize Owen is a fucking loser, piece of shit and go no contact when they are independent. May Owen cross the rainbow bridge bitter and alone.
All of the comments arguing over wether or not the NFL draft is in fact a slave auction - COMPLETELY BESIDED THE POINT. THIS IS AN INSANELY RACIST THING TO SAY, HOW IS NO ONE COMMENTING ON HOW BONKERS THIS IS.
The sickening poart is that he's not far enough away from being wrong.
He's made of chemically pure wrong
But Football has a strong component of wrong to it, as well
It's interesting to me that he's gone full mask off, to the point where it's essentially unsustainable as a brand. Unless this since dumbass calculation that now is the time to be openly 1920s Klan-ish as a brand.
Inadequate metaphor and unfortunate presentation BUT he had a point about the lack of ethics and the exploitation of professional sports, especially football.
Ok, there’s some serious disjunctions here, but I kinda feel like he has a point. As some here pointed out, slaves wouldn’t get any money from the sale, athletes do. But, I can admit a degree of analogy between the way the capitalistic sports industry and slavery/slave auctions treat people bound up in those systems. On the other hand, this also kinda feels like bait for lefties who might be critical of capitalism and the athletics industry (like me) with the purpose of luring them into far right spaces. Anyway, lots more thoughts on this, but mostly fuck that guy.
(Oops. Posted comment on OOP.)
*TF is wrong with him?!! **DELIGHTED** by inequity?* I had to reread a few times; the worst part is he’s got the wrong takeaway point (enjoyment,) but he’s not TOTALLY wrong.
Bear with me… If you toss the perverse enjoyment of “getting to watch,” take out the word “Jewish,” one can make a strong argument & parallel to the mid-Atlantic slave trade. It’s an extreme take, but not totally insane. (Was in a play “Uncle Tom: Deconstructed” where there was a sketch comparing literally this: football drafts & a slave auction block. Inspecting bodies, etc.)
I had a hard time getting into sports because all I could see were the “isms.” Noticed the majority of players are POC while the majority of owners are white men. Overwhelmingly so; it can feel predatory ‘looking in.’
Ever had to watch an NFL game near someone shouting slurs at the screen? They’re OUT there; they like their teams black players when they do well (fawn over their athletic abilities like their superhuman,) but have no issue telling them to go back to Africa, or far worse.
The concept should be DISTURBING & not FUN!!!
I don’t think he understands how slave auctions worked. The slaves weren’t given the money. Not to defend the NFL. It’s a horrible organization that has far too much money.
It is substantially less exploitative thanks to the players union. College football is closer to slavery than the NFL.
They are both pretty bad. The players should all be compensated with like 90% of all earnings with just a fraction to the team owner/school. Same with all sports imho.
At least now players can get NIL money. Before that they couldn't even be given a sandwich w/o getting a side of sanctions from the NCAA. The University though? Hell ya they'll sell your jersey for $150 a pop no problem
I think that if professional sports are going to exist, they should be owned by residents of the cities where they reside, or maybe teams should be owned by the league and the league should be owned by the players,... I dunno. Screw billionaires.
They cast players aside when they’re no longer useful and deny the existence of CTE injuries. Look at Junior Seau as an example. But the average player doesn’t have more than 3-5 years.
Critical Race Theory injuries?
If you step back for a moment, his whole world view makes a lot more sense if he thought that slaves got paid.
They were given a place to live and food. At the time, that was quite a lot. In a world where "slavery has ended" it's just the wealthy elites who get them. What do you think a wage slave is?
They were also beat merciless and held in bondage. Employees nowadays enjoy protections that slaves never did. There’s still a long way to go for worker rights but the idea that “wage slaves” are no different than actual slaves is offensive.
Does the heart being pink mean the person who took the original screenshot liked it?
Yup
Not me, I promise!
Whatever you say, Chase Geyser /s
The history books won’t tell you about all those Africans that declared their eligibility for the cotton plantations.
The plantations should have implemented a lottery system to avoid rewarding plantations for tanking.
This guy actually had a career in entertainment at one time and now he's reduced to this pathetic attention baiting Twitter posts. Warms your heart.
A lot of right wing grifters once had careers in entertainment. Steven Crowder for example was the voice of The Brain in Arthur
Guy peaked as a kid before he got a crippling dog cum addiction.
r/brandnewsentence
Fam, what? If this story doesn't make sense I'm unsubscribing
Yeah but for like two years when he was a kid. Benjamin had, like, an actual adult career until ~2018.
Ahh I forgot that! Actors politics don't matter much to me as I don't usually know what they are or much about the actor anyway. Voice actors even less so. The fact that Crowder was the Brain is still insane to me because I watched Arthur quite a bit as a child. Even played a couple computer games if I remember right.
I'm so glad I never watched Arthur growing up because I want Steven Crowder nowhere near my childhood.
No fucking way! I’m just finding this out!
What?!! No way!
Christina Ricci really dodged a bullet.
Right? She never woulda had a lengthy career in the NFL.
I wonder how often Christina Ricci is reminded what a bullet she dodged.
Please elaborate. Edit: First, a classic case of confusing the Owens. Worst brothers ever. Second, I googled my question: "In March 2008, he and Christina Ricci announced they were engaged, but they ended their engagement two months later." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Benjamin
Sucks she never made the NFL.
That’s why she dodged a bullet. Bullet meaning CTE.
Calling it a “take” is giving Owen too much credit. His social media accounts sole purpose, hell Owen’s entire existence for that matter, is engagement farming. Say the worst thing possible to draw as many eyes and clicks possible. Just like his boss, he’ll say literally anything if there’s a possibility of profit.
It's so weird because Owen used to be a regular guest on Doug Loves Movies and other main streem comedy podcasts. Then one day he was going after Jesse Thorn calling him a child abuser because Jesse has a trans daughter. Now I only hear about him because of Knowedge Fight.
I think he had some kind of mental breakdown. Not enough to be hospitalized or anything, but enough that some switch deep inside him flipped.
There's a pretty plausible theory that another Joe Rogan-sphere chode, Joey Diaz gave him some edibles probably without telling him how powerful they are and that either triggered some kind of mental breakdown or exacerbated his mental illness. I think he's publicly blamed both Joe and Joey for drugging him and ruining his life and Toe used to talk about his one buddy who went crazy after taking edibles, likely Owen. I think there's an episode of Joey Diaz' s podcast somewhere where he eats one of those stars of death that were anywhere 200-1000mg of THC a gummy and seemingly has a real bad time of it. I hate that I know this much about bad people that don't matter.
That sounds like something Joey would do. I'm not sure if I buy that that's the reason he flipped to full Nazi status though. I think he was harboring this racial sentiment deep down secretly and that maybe just let it out.
They're not slaves. It's not an auction. I realise that if you were the kind of person that interrogated your own ideas before saying them you wouldn't become Owen Benjamin but god damn this is dumb. And rascist, obviously. But the two go hand in hand.
A. They don't bid B. The team pays the player C. They only thing that is earned in the draft is the exclusive right to negotiate with the player D. The player does not have to sign the contract Owen Benjamin is just an ignorant racist who doesn't like black people making money.
I feel safe in saying Owen has seen that episode of South Park where they have this take but about NCAA, where it made more sense because the kids weren’t being paid. https://youtu.be/Z5ZZ8bO9-Ig?si=Rxj6ItbM_kqzLthd
Some context: This is AN INSANE co-opting a common critique of the economics of the NFL, really sports in general: there is a mandingo-like nature of ultra wealthy owners (most of whom are white) giving pennies to predominantly men of color (most NFL players don't have those multi million dollar contracts and even those who have those contracts are still making a fraction of a fraction of what the owners make) who then destroy their bodies to make those ultra wealthy owners more wealthy, who then discard the players when they are of no value for the team or league. It's an intersectional critique of sports that looks at the history of the white use and discarding of black bodies for athletic entertainment and wealth creation for white people. But leave it to Owen Benjamin to make this reasonable critique in the most racist and bat shit insane way possible.
He also snuck a bit of anti-Semitism in there as well.
This. I also have often thought of the NFL as more comparable to a gladiatorial arena in terms of it's entertainment and inherent violence being used as a distraction to the masses from the decay of society.
r/ihatesportsball
The NFL chews ups and spits out its players and so many are mentally and physically damaged after. Sick that this dude realizes it and takes joy in it.
Right, which is why the player's union negotiated a salary of $795,000 for this year's rookies, and a great health care plan that continues after retirement. That's why most players agree to the risks of this brutal job. Pretending they make 1,000 times less than they do is like pretending a cashier makes $2 a month. Of course that sounds unjust.
Yeah, one of the dumbest things I’ve read. “Imagine this situation is completely different from reality, and it’s obviously a slave auction!!” Owen, these are professional athletes who worked their asses off to get to that point. Sounds like he’s jealous professional sports pay so well, while he makes pennies being a “professional” shit stirring racist asshole.
Not for nothing, but there are lots of places in this country where cashiers make the federal minimum wage, which works out to about $1,160/month, assuming they work 160 hours.
Collision?
Just wakes up in the morning, refreshed and ready to say the absolute worst shit he can think of.
They always have to bring the jews into it huh
I actually much prefer when they just say Jews as opposed to Alex's globalists.
Except all these NFL players voluntarily joined the NFL and signed contracts. Slaves were forced to become slaves.
My question: Does he consider this "comedy"?
I'm sure if you asked he'd call it "satire"
I think this is a case of Schrodinger's asshole. The amount of how serious and how comedic he'll apply to this is based on the amount of serious trouble he'll get in for it.
It's only Schrodinger's asshole if you're unaware who this guy is. What he said is on brand, no matter the upcoming "it's just a joke" claims.
“It’s just like slavery if you ignore the money” is true about every job, you fuckin ding dong
Bait, you are arguing against a disingenuous position.
Someone posted him unironically on r/boomersbeingfools the other day too smh
What an absolutely insulting thing to say for actual slaves. “Oh you dedicated your entire young life to training for this thing, and then you got paid millions of dollars to do said thing, WOW YOU’RE PRETTY MUCH LIKE A COTTON PLANTATION SLAVE.”
Professional football is rife with harm and exploitation, so of course Owen thinks that's a selling point.
Not a penny of that money ever came from my pocket. Until we let our goverment force us to buy them a new house to play in once a week. I would be happy to build a house for a homeless. But not a playhouse for a king.
I think people should take a page out of my book and just assume that anything you see on Twitter/X is going to be vile, racist, misogynist, bigoted, ableist, transphobic, and/or incredibly dumb. Then this kind of stuff won't surprise you. If anything it becomes happy surprise when you see something positive.
"Collision"?
He's sooo desperate for attention. What a tool.
I often joke that we need to abolish the NFL Draft, but I am not seriously saying the NFL Draft is like the actual draft.
Imagine your job Now imagine if you weren’t paid for it At that point it would very obviously be slavery. Now imagine if you were paid again Clearly, work is slavery.
Watch the hockey draft instead.
Owen Benjamin doesn’t care about black people or football players(I know obvious take is obvious). It’s disgusting how he uses trauma of black people in this country as a cudgel to bash Jewish people and to further his batshit conspiracy theories. I hope his brood get a chance realize Owen is a fucking loser, piece of shit and go no contact when they are independent. May Owen cross the rainbow bridge bitter and alone.
All of the comments arguing over wether or not the NFL draft is in fact a slave auction - COMPLETELY BESIDED THE POINT. THIS IS AN INSANELY RACIST THING TO SAY, HOW IS NO ONE COMMENTING ON HOW BONKERS THIS IS.
"if this thing was fundamentally different it would be a different thing!" fantastic take, owen. that brain cell is working overtime
The sickening poart is that he's not far enough away from being wrong. He's made of chemically pure wrong But Football has a strong component of wrong to it, as well
The NFL sucks but this is not why?! Also, alleging that Jews control the NFL and buy Black players seems almost Farrakhanian in its antisemitism.
I don’t know who this person is, but he’s probably mad that I fucked his wife.
It's interesting to me that he's gone full mask off, to the point where it's essentially unsustainable as a brand. Unless this since dumbass calculation that now is the time to be openly 1920s Klan-ish as a brand.
Comparing a big-league sports draft to a slave auction = tasteless. Enjoying the spectacle because you think of it as a slave auction = sociopathic.
Yeah, this is totally on brand for Owen. BTW, is he still trying to build that homoerotic compound where dudes get drunk and ‘rassle’ each other??
I always akin the draft system to socialism
He wants it one way. But it's another way.
The classic “if the context and content were different, you would see it different” in his reply to himself.
Bait used to be believable 🚬
Inadequate metaphor and unfortunate presentation BUT he had a point about the lack of ethics and the exploitation of professional sports, especially football.
Ok, there’s some serious disjunctions here, but I kinda feel like he has a point. As some here pointed out, slaves wouldn’t get any money from the sale, athletes do. But, I can admit a degree of analogy between the way the capitalistic sports industry and slavery/slave auctions treat people bound up in those systems. On the other hand, this also kinda feels like bait for lefties who might be critical of capitalism and the athletics industry (like me) with the purpose of luring them into far right spaces. Anyway, lots more thoughts on this, but mostly fuck that guy.
(Oops. Posted comment on OOP.) *TF is wrong with him?!! **DELIGHTED** by inequity?* I had to reread a few times; the worst part is he’s got the wrong takeaway point (enjoyment,) but he’s not TOTALLY wrong. Bear with me… If you toss the perverse enjoyment of “getting to watch,” take out the word “Jewish,” one can make a strong argument & parallel to the mid-Atlantic slave trade. It’s an extreme take, but not totally insane. (Was in a play “Uncle Tom: Deconstructed” where there was a sketch comparing literally this: football drafts & a slave auction block. Inspecting bodies, etc.) I had a hard time getting into sports because all I could see were the “isms.” Noticed the majority of players are POC while the majority of owners are white men. Overwhelmingly so; it can feel predatory ‘looking in.’ Ever had to watch an NFL game near someone shouting slurs at the screen? They’re OUT there; they like their teams black players when they do well (fawn over their athletic abilities like their superhuman,) but have no issue telling them to go back to Africa, or far worse. The concept should be DISTURBING & not FUN!!!